oh that's right. mr. bigshot, replete with his home field advantage, lost to an under-rated Steelers team. all the arm waving and dosey-doe that dude does at the line of scrimmage wasn't enough to stop a very hungry Steeler defense. a missed field goal? bad official call? still not enough...
where's the Super Bowl trophy for Indy? oh that's right...they don't HAVE ONE. for all the praise and ass kissing this guy gets, you'd think they'd won five Bowls in a row. but they can't even make it to the SECOND ROUND of the playoffs.
Go Steelers! One for the thumb!
funny, i didnt realise the entire team was made of one player? this argument is old hat. one player doesnt win or lose a game. talk to the piss poor indy defense in the first half that couldnt stop any pass big ben threw. talk to the offensive line that couldnt block the pittsburgh line to protect peyton or block for edgerrin. and yes, talk to peyton. funny, if they win, hed be lauded, but since they didnt, hes the goat. fuck that. i know players are gauged on playoffs and championships, but ive now faced it after this year, peyton really wont ever win a super bowl. thats the fact. marino never won one either, so he can be on the quest to be the best ever without winning a championship. i just think its hilarious people are quick to jump peyton's ass, which means what? you know hes a fucking good player and you EXPECT him to perform. stop being an ass and just wish they would have won this one for their coach. im a fucking colts fan (for now), but i wouldnt blame any of the big names for leaving. its a joke, indy is cursed or some shit, and they wont ever win the super bowl, no matter who the coach is or who the star players are.
oh, i think pittsburgh is going to beat denver as well. fact is, the better team won. even if indy would have won, they wouldnt have deserved it. pittsburgh is proving they deserve to be where they are, and i think theyll beat the broncos next week.
hey, i'm only reflecting the ocean of ass kissing this guy gets and how "no one can stop him" and all that. of course a team isn't just one guy. but no one else on that team gets the adulation he does, and i think it's just desserts for him to lose after all the press of "perfect season" and all that.
this is sports, right? 'cause talking smack about sports is a national pastime, and after a huge, HUGE loss to an under rated team (my birthplace city), I feel like I can talk a little smack. And tragic events aside, it's still sports so there's always a winner and always a loser.
I don't KNOW he's a great player; I think he's entirely over rated. Look at their schedule. Look at the stadium-I'm a purist, so playing indoors is for pansies. An indoor stadium in Indy?! WTF? Green fucking Bay doesn't have a dome, but Indy does. Sheesh.
nah im just being myself here, whatever that means. i personally think hes a great QB, regardless of being a colts fan or not. however, any guy can be a great QB with a good offensive line and good receivers, just as anyone can be shit if theyre fucking knocked down and hurried all the time. talk all the smack you want, i dont mind. im still not convinced at all that big ben is worth a shit, and im not just saying that based on your comments on peyton. hes young, scrappy, and very good in the first quarter. other than that, i dont see what the hell he has to offer.
I think he is a good QB he is just way to quick to point the finger at other people when his team loses. Look what he did to his offensive line after Sunday's game.
I'm neither a Steeler's or Colts fan but that was one hell of a game, best game of the year by far. Now the path is cleared for my Panther's to win it all!
Quotenah im just being myself here, whatever that means. i personally think hes a great QB, regardless of being a colts fan or not. however, any guy can be a great QB with a good offensive line and good receivers, just as anyone can be shit if theyre fucking knocked down and hurried all the time. talk all the smack you want, i dont mind. im still not convinced at all that big ben is worth a shit, and im not just saying that based on your comments on peyton. hes young, scrappy, and very good in the first quarter. other than that, i dont see what the hell he has to offer.
Everytime you speak on here, I think I'm looking in a mirror. Right on!
(it also allows me to not post addictively as my views are already expressed on the board!!!!!!!)
I'm not really a fan of either team and this is the first year that I've watched more than 1 or 2 NFL games in several years, but I caught myself rooting for the Colts until Sunday's game. I can't figure that one out either. I fucking hate Manning's alma mater, so that generally translates despising most of the player's that come out of there, but I was rooting for he and the Colts for a while. Why? I don't know.
But I felt myself turn against them early on in the Steelers game. Maybe it was the 2nd Pittsburgh TD that made me think that they would get beat but I'm not sure. I just caught myself rooting for them. Maybe it was the underdog factor.
And yeah, don't blame it all on your offensive line. You ought to be glad that they've given you all that free time in the pocket all season. Learn to scramble, asshole. Take some of the blame on yourself. You were overthrowing receivers by 10 yards all day.
That being said, Go SEAHAWKS!
thank you! I thought I was all alone in my criticism of Manning's evil ways.
Despite all the smack, I'm thinking this is either Denver or Seattle's season. Both have solid teams capable of just about anything. We'll just have to see how it goes.
Pittsburgh has a great D and solid running game, but ol Big Ben seems to have come alive late this year after knee surgery.
Hell, it's anyone's game to win or lose at this point.
Go Panthers. Olwiggum...you can cheer for the seahawks all you want, but Steve Smith will dominate and procede to do a ridiculous endzone celebration. :)
I gotta pull for the Seahawks because of my man S Alexander.
having foster out will really hurt the panthers, but i dont think alexander (concussion last week or not) is going to get much of anything against the panthers defense. i dont think seattle can depend solely on the pass like they did against piss poor offense washington, so i gotta go with the panthers.
Quotethank you! I thought I was all alone in my criticism of Manning's evil ways.
Despite all the smack, I'm thinking this is either Denver or Seattle's season. Both have solid teams capable of just about anything. We'll just have to see how it goes.
Pittsburgh has a great D and solid running game, but ol Big Ben seems to have come alive late this year after knee surgery.
Hell, it's anyone's game to win or lose at this point.
I like how the Colts lose a playoff game and now Peyton Manning is suddenly right up there with Osama Bin Laden. Peyton is one of the best Quarterbacks that has ever and will ever play NFL football, Period!!! Get off the HATE wagon John. Imagine if the Colts would have won that game, would you be saying horrible things about Jerome Bettis? Would it negate everything else good he has done. He gets alot of publicity because he deserves it, because he is great not because he goes out of the way to get it like (Terell Owens, Deon Sanders, etc. etc.)
GO VOLS!!!!!!!! ;D ;D
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I like how the Colts lose a playoff game and now Peyton Manning is suddenly right up there with Osama Bin Laden. Peyton is one of the best Quarterbacks that has ever and will ever play NFL football, Period!!! Get off the HATE wagon John. Imagine if the Colts would have won that game, would you be saying horrible things about Jerome Bettis? Would it negate everything else good he has done. He gets alot of publicity because he deserves it, because he is great not because he goes out of the way to get it like (Terell Owens, Deon Sanders, etc. etc.)
GO VOLS!!!!!!!! ;D ;D
go brian! everyone has their own opinion, but i like them better when they agree with mine. ;)
I have a hard time talking smack about pro sports players.
I mean, I hate T. Owens and Deion Sanders, etc... but I cannot deny the fact that they are very talented atheletes and I would give a whole bunch of myself to be that talented, for 1 game, PLUS make that much money. I mean, fans get all down and pissed when teams lose, but imagine how the players feel.
IE, I have a hard time saying so and so blew so and so game when I don't have the athletic abilty to do 1/100th of what these guys do.
I am a Saints fan; diehard. For 34 years, roughly since Archie's rookie season.
I think I am pulling for the Steelers b/c so far they have beaten 2 of the best teams. The Broncos are a bit unknown to me. Panthers? Seahawks? Not with them.
I was pulling for Peyton on Sunday b/c in this world of jive talking, look at me, get me the damn ball, sports jerks, Peyton is a class act. However, the Colts did deserve to lose and I really think the refs tried to help them out.
That's all I got.
Geaux Saints! Next year...
i have absolutely no sports talent either, but one thing i have learned from watching and some coaching is that you have to play better than to let the refs dictate the outcome of the game. indy played like shit, and honestly they did starting in the second half of the jacksonville game through the end of the season. peyton is definitely a class act, he doesnt showboat around and beg for all the attention. hes not one of the many players screaming they dont get enough respect. he plays, he does what he does, and hes definitely different than any other QB in the league, but people like carson palmer recognise he knows what the fuck hes doing, and youll see palmer become the next great QB in this league in the next few years if he keeps healthy.
Peyton Manning is a quality QB, just like Dan Marino....another guy who never won the big game. And he won't. He's now 3-6 all-time in the playoffs and the AFC is only getting stronger. Manning will NEVER win a Super Bowl.
It could be Pittsburgh's year.....
well, as the football goddess who predicted the outcome of all four games correctly (sorry Form91225 ;) ) i feel sorry for manning. but it just goes to show ya that it's all about protection and defense and patience and timing and balls. i heard some schmo on sports radio say that he's mediocre without pass protection. well, duh, most everybody is mediocre when they don't have time to throw. people love to hate on peyton like they love to hate the yankees. if the colts had gone all the way they would find something else to pick on. manning needs more brass balls, not just on one gutsy play, but on all of them. i like eli because he plays a little recklessly. he's not as technically accomplished, but he's balls to the wall and that will make things happen.
i'm going with denver because they are getting the big shaft thus far and i think they're for real.
QuotePeyton Manning is a quality QB, just like Dan Marino....another guy who never won the big game. And he won't. He's now 3-6 all-time in the playoffs and the AFC is only getting stronger. Manning will NEVER win a Super Bowl.
It could be Pittsburgh's year.....
They said the EXACT same thing about Elway. ANd how you figure the AFC is getting stronger is arguable.
Time will tell. But to say definitively that he will never win a Super Bowl is silly.
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They said the EXACT same thing about Elway. ANd how you figure the AFC is getting stronger is arguable.
Time will tell. But to say definitively that he will never win a Super Bowl is silly.
im saying the same thing, and im a huge colts fan, born and bred hoosier. of course, its mere speculation, but its the feeling i get.
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im saying the same thing, and im a huge colts fan, born and bred hoosier. of course, its mere speculation, but its the feeling i get.
The Colts are from Baltimore, not Indiana.
Quotehe's not as technically accomplished, but he's balls to the wall and that will make things happen.
Yeah, like a shit load of interceptions. Did you see what happened to the Giants in thier first playoff game?
My point with Peyton is that he's great because of his work ethic his dedication, ambition and passion. When you coach sports these are all things that you stress because they are things that will take you far in whatever you do. If it were not for the time and energy Peyton put into it he probably wouldn't even play in the NFL, everyone knows Eli is a better pure athlete. Not many have the desire, will power, and strength to devote themselves so fully to being Great, Tiger Woods is one. Of course when you devote yourself so fully to something there will be plenty salivating when you stumble. I think other athletes become bitter with these Freakish individuals that are so intent on devoting themselves so fully to winning and being the best they possibly can. I can understand because these other guys work thier ever living asses off to. I'm sure that the rest of the PGA kept saying "my god will Tiger just take a fucking day off, you are making us look like loosers" - Exactly his plan my friends!!!! But no, Tiger was the one hitting balls three hours after everyone else went home to eat and watch TV, Peyton was the one camped out in the film room at UT while everyone else was out partying. I don't fault Peyton for not winning a championship in college, I appreciate him for all the victories and the way he carried himself as a college athlete, and if I was an Alabama fan I'd Fucking HATE Him to. ;) If he never does win a Super Bowl it won't be because he didn't try.
again, this is harmless sport smack talkin'...HOWEVER...
after a lifetime of growing up around Pittsburgh in the 70's, I can easily dis on today's athletes, peyton manning included. class act? c'mon. so some other athletes are jive talkers, and those who aren't are now "class acts"? buffalo bagels.
there are great football players in the past that never won in the playoffs or the super bowl, but they didn't go on press conferences and blame their lack of a win on their offensive line. team leader? you take the lumps when you're the leader, not blame your lack of scrambling ability or big play ability on the line. he moves around a whole lot before the ball gets snapped, but stands there like a statue once it is snapped.
all i'm saying is for all the hype this guy gets, there's no results. sure, he's a great QB but so are a bunch of other fellas playing right now (Leftwich, for example) that don't get the hosannas he does. AND, to be a football purist (again), their schedule this year was a lark, AND they play indoors. that's not real football, that's practically arena football.
who couldn't rack up 13 wins with their schedule, and all home games indoors? oh right, Detroit. but that's a team void of good solid talent. their defense is better this year, but still suspect. you can't win games on offense alone, and their choke in this game with the Steelers proves that, once and for all. it has to be a balance between offense and defense (Chicago Bears, anyone?).
This game with the Colts will go down as one of the greatest Pittsburgh victories of all time (Super Bowls and all) due to the overwhelming negative press about the Steelers, and the overwhelming positive press about the Colts, the so called invinceable titan team this year. 9 point spread? they didn't beat the spread, but they sure as hell won the game.
they did have an easy ass schedule this year, but do you see a team winning 14 games every year and dominating the first 12 like they did? no, you dont, but alas your indoor stadium and what-have-you will always be something to throw back, old man. ;)
oh, and tracy (cornucopia of information), im well aware the colts started in baltimore, but see my 26 year old self has adopted them as an indiana team since they moved there when i was 4, its all ive known since i knew was football was.
Quoteyou will always be something to throw back, old man
Don't I know it! 8)
The amazing thing to me is he has never won any championship at any level.
In highschool he only had 5 losses. 3 of those were in the playoffs. 3 trips to the state championship game and 3 loses.
We all know he didn't win anything in college either. As good as he is, he has a major history of choking in big games. I'll stick with Jake Delhomme, who seems to do better in the playoffs than he does during the season.
Conway, you can't claim to be a football purist and talk smack about players. That's not what a football purist does.
Sorry :-/
Quoteoh, and tracy (cornucopia of information), im well aware the colts started in baltimore, but see my 26 year old self has adopted them as an indiana team since they moved there when i was 4, its all ive known since i knew was football was.
OK.
Another thing thing, Sammy Hagar was not the original front man of Van Halen. ;)
QuoteConway, you can't claim to be a football purist and talk smack about players. That's not what a football purist does.
Sorry :-/
Um, yeah. Sure I can. You don't think Mean Joe Greene didn't talk trash back in the day? What's more football purist than a founding member of the Steel Curtain? Jack Lambert? He used to talk trash all the time.
Sure, the Bart Starr's and Jim Brown's of the world didn't engage in trash talking, but there's a substantial difference between say Terrell Owens and Jack Lambert, most notably that Lambert never threw his own team under the bus, let alone the coaches, owners, etc.
The game has changed dramatically since the early 70's, and I pine for the days when interference calls involved naked fans streaking across the stadium, and personal fouls were left for the serious blows. If I see one more "block to the back" call during a kickoff, I'm going to start calling football "blocking ball". ;)
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Um, yeah. Sure I can. You don't think Mean Joe Greene didn't talk trash back in the day? What's more football purist than a founding member of the Steel Curtain? Jack Lambert? He used to talk trash all the time.
Sure, the Bart Starr's and Jim Brown's of the world didn't engage in trash talking, but there's a substantial difference between say Terrell Owens and Jack Lambert, most notably that Lambert never threw his own team under the bus, let alone the coaches, owners, etc.
The game has changed dramatically since the early 70's, and I pine for the days when interference calls involved naked fans streaking across the stadium, and personal fouls were left for the serious blows. If I see one more "block to the back" call during a kickoff, I'm going to start calling football "blocking ball". ;)
i believe this is called encroachment, john. expect a fine from the nfl any time now. ;)
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Um, yeah. Sure I can. You don't think Mean Joe Greene didn't talk trash back in the day? What's more football purist than a founding member of the Steel Curtain? Jack Lambert? He used to talk trash all the time.
Sure, the Bart Starr's and Jim Brown's of the world didn't engage in trash talking, but there's a substantial difference between say Terrell Owens and Jack Lambert, most notably that Lambert never threw his own team under the bus, let alone the coaches, owners, etc.
The game has changed dramatically since the early 70's, and I pine for the days when interference calls involved naked fans streaking across the stadium, and personal fouls were left for the serious blows. If I see one more "block to the back" call during a kickoff, I'm going to start calling football "blocking ball". ;)
Conway, you're no Jack Lambert, you're just a fan who claims to be a purist. Purist FANS don't talk trash, IMO. There's a huge difference.
This would never have come out of the mouths of Jack Lambert, L.C. Greenwood, Dwight White, or Ernie Holmes:
"oh that's right. mr. bigshot, replete with his home field advantage, lost to an under-rated Steelers team. all the arm waving and dosey-doe that dude does at the line of scrimmage wasn't enough to stop a very hungry Steeler defense. a missed field goal? bad official call? still not enough...
where's the Super Bowl trophy for Indy? oh that's right...they don't HAVE ONE. for all the praise and ass kissing this guy gets, you'd think they'd won five Bowls in a row. but they can't even make it to the SECOND ROUND of the playoffs."
Doesn't sound like a purist to me.
Maybe it's just me, but I got over making fun of other team's losses when I was younger. It's just silly to me now.
That's just my opinion and how I feel. Of course, everyone is welcome to express themselves in whatever way they wish.
So are you the walking dictionary these days or what?
I'm a "purist" in the sense that the rules have changed for the worse. I'm just some dumbass fan, so I can talk all the shit I want to.
What's your definition then, Mr. Dictionary? ;)
QuoteMaybe it's just me, but I got over making fun of other team's losses when I was younger. It's just silly to me now.
That's just my opinion and how I feel. Of course, everyone is welcome to express themselves in whatever way they wish.
oooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhh. so it's a maturity issue for you then. Nice one Dad. I'll mull that over.
like I said earlier, this is just me talking smack. Or have I touched a nerve in that I, as a private fan, can't make a little fun of a player I think is overrated? It's just my opinion. Like it or lump it, I'm sure you know I'm a stubborn goat and I say what is on my mind.
damn, you codgers. lets all be dumbasses and talk about rush or something. ;)
i know, you two can roleplay this argument using the rush songs 'the trees'. now, whos the maples, and whos the oaks?
;D
Quoteyou know I'm a stubborn goat and I say what is on my mind.
ditto :)
Quotei know, you two can roleplay this argument using the rush songs 'the trees'. now, whos the maples, and whos the oaks?
wait a second, I have to go to the attic and find my maple and oak costumes....
brb
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wait a second, I have to go to the attic and find my maple and oak costumes....
brb
bring these to the next show. fuck the viking costumes, well be trees!
Zycarblobz, siddown for your football lesson.
How the AFC is getting stronger.
Let's look at the year's playoff entrants. Denver won a division that also had San Diego and KC....two teams only getting better. SD has a dynamic offense and Merriman was rookie of the year. Bolts didn't even make the playoffs, AFC is so tough. KC ...give Larry Johnson a full year at RB. He only started 9 games. Herm Edwards will be great there as well. Oakland blew this year but give Randy Moss and Lamont Jordan next year before ruling them out of the game.
Cincy is only getting better. I think that's, as W would say, the common consensus. Pittsburgh's third-string RB gained 1300 yards this year...and Pittsburgh also managed to get this far while losing one of the top WRs in football last off-season to free agency.
Indy, despite the choke, is still a force. As is NE. If you were paying attention, you may have noticed what Miami did under Saban. And the NYJ were considered a playoff contender entering last year. Injuries wrecked that.
In the NFC you have phonies like TB, Washington, Chicago...please. This is so not debatable I can't believe you make me waste my time teaching you.
I didn't even mention a 12-4 Jacksonville....case closed.
QuoteI didn't even mention a 12-4 Jacksonville....case closed.
or the NFC could be having a down year. Head to head AFC won this year over NFC 32-29. Not a big difference. We'll have to wait to see if your theory pans out.
I really wish I cared more to do an NFC run down...it's pretty irrelevant.
tracy... please don't argue about football with my husband because if he gets all pissed, *I* will have to eat it... ;D
i'm gonna say that........ you're both right. i have long tried to push forth the theory that historical stats don't mean shit. a team is different from week to week, not to mention year to year. nobody expected chicago to be in the playoffs and nobody thought the raiders would suck so hard... it's all speculation. if anyone could accurately predict the yearly outcome bookies would be out of business.
Or how about looking at it this way: if the conferences were comingled, where would the teams rank? most likely, you'd have at least five of the top six slots occupied by AFC teams.
QuoteOr how about looking at it this way: if the conferences were comingled, where would the teams rank? most likely, you'd have at least five of the top six slots occupied by AFC teams.
OK, not really sure I care. But thanks for the info.
But Form91225 is more right because he truly is the football God.
Cowboys Super Bowl next season, I can feel it (There...that should destroy my credibility completely....)
Football.