This asshole is nodding off during a debriefing on the California wildfires...How sad is that..I'm not a very political person, but that's a DISGRACE!! It just goes to show how LITTLE he actually cares about the average person...He should be ashamed but I'm sure he isn't :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
ps-those of you not from the U.S.A......were not ALL pigs :(
Not trying to stand up for the guy, but are you saying you've never fallen asleep during something you should've been listening to?
QuoteNot trying to stand up for the guy, but are you saying you've never fallen asleep during something you should've been listening to?
were talking about peoples homes and lives not an insurance seminar >:( and fuck no I wouldn't fall asleep at something like that...would you??????? :-/
maybe he was dreaming about shooting someone else in the face
QuoteQuoteNot trying to stand up for the guy, but are you saying you've never fallen asleep during something you should've been listening to?
were talking about peoples homes and lives not an insurance seminar >:( and fuck no I wouldn't fall asleep at something like that...would you??????? :-/
Wouldn't insurance have quite a bit to do with people's homes and lives? And is he somehow personally responsible for the fires or the people?
Pot meet kettle, kettle - pot
I'll be over here while you two get to know each other
I'm saying if you want to crucify the guy, so be it, just pick better reasons - there's plenty of 'em. Because he nods off is kinda....well, weak.
The blindly partisan BS is getting old - IMHO Rep or Dem both suck so much ass that the whole system needs be replaced - they are just different sides of the same coin - it bothers me that more people dont realize this and kick and scream
Look at the current candidates for president - offer up more douchebags to replace the current douchebag.
Quotemaybe he was dreaming about shooting someone else in the face
:o ;D
QuoteNot trying to stand up for the guy, but are you saying you've never fallen asleep during something you should've been listening to?
Actually you are and you should be banned from this forum immediately, you ol' right winger.
QuoteQuoteNot trying to stand up for the guy, but are you saying you've never fallen asleep during something you should've been listening to?
Actually you are and you should be banned from this forum immediately, you ol' right winger.
Ouch.
Banned? C'mon, it was just a harmless comment. :-/
QuoteQuoteNot trying to stand up for the guy, but are you saying you've never fallen asleep during something you should've been listening to?
Actually you are and you should be banned from this forum immediately, you ol' right winger.
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All I'm saying is that whining gets annoying, especially when its about something everyone of us does or has done. It also gets annoying when everyone can point fingers, but fail to offer up a reasonable solution.
Oh well, he fell asleep - people fall asleep driving cars. If you want something to complain about - there's plenty of real issues that could be addressed, but no, it seems like the status quo is to say how much worse someone is than someone else - not what makes a person better.
We all know what problems exist in our gov't at this time. Bush sucks, Cheney sucks - tell me something I dont know. How about why any of these schmucks are any better?
I was watching Bill Maher with John Edwards as guest - that guy is seriously creepy - like the guy in the last stall of the truck stop bathroom creepy. And I'm not even gonna get started about the line up of douchebags that were present for both the Republican and Democratic debates.
My first instinct is to put my head in the sand and hope it will all go away, but it won't. So, my next option is to vote 3rd party this year - I don't care about who's running - I want to show my support to end this craptacular 2 party system - I wouldn't classify myself as having faith in any of them, but I would like to show my support to get more than just a choice between a Jackass and an bloated Elephant - neither wing does it for me - they both suck.
and I haven't had a cig in almost 24 hrs - I've been getting a little on edge today - not to mention I HATE politics - its the ultimate way to blur the line between fact and emotion
Here's the best way to describe how I view the whole system
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Its a good thing he was napping, otherwise he would look like this.
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nah, dude. he would look more like:
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Like I said - so he fell asleep - Big Deal - does that change the outcome of the California fires?
I also said - if you want to crucify somebody - whatever - but at least present good reasons because there are plenty of them, whining gets kinda old
OMFG he fell asleep!!! he's the first to ever do that!!!
I think the guy is a dumbass as well - but to get all "Wont someone think of the children?!" about him nodding off in a meeting is kinda weak
You might want to reread your own post "I'm not a very political person" - you seem to have quite the emotional reaction
To quote my own quote "politics - its the ultimate way to blur the line between fact and emotion"
QuoteLike I said - so he fell asleep - Big Deal - does that change the outcome of the California fires?
I also said - if you want to crucify somebody - whatever - but at least present good reasons because there are plenty of them, whining gets kinda old
OMFG he fell asleep!!! he's the first to ever do that!!!
I think the guy is a dumbass as well - but to get all "Wont someone think of the children?!" about him nodding off in a meeting is kinda weak
You might want to reread your own post "I'm not a very political person" - you seem to have quite the emotional reaction
To quote my own quote "politics - its the ultimate way to blur the line between fact and emotion"
you know what your right....your right...all hail king Cheney....I'm just a asshole.I mean why should I care about those people on the west coast...I'm glad that the Liz King has helped me see the er of my ways...Once again thank you buddy!
Warmest Regards,your buddy,
rccola
It comes down to respect for the people who have suffered in the fires. I bet if he were at a meeting with his Energy Commision he would be wide eyed and ready to roll.
Sometimes I just have to pinch myself to make sure the last 6 3/4 years has been for real. Thank god for term limits.
QuoteIt comes down to respect for the people who have suffered in the fires. I bet if he were at a meeting with his Energy Commision he would be wide eyed and ready to roll. We should make a list of all the POSITIVE things Mr. Cheney has done while he has been in office.
Does anyone want to start ?
I guess it was the respect aspect that had me so angry ...sorry if I pissed anyone off...I really value everyones opinion on this forum....except Liz King ;D ;Djust kidding friend!
Like I was speaking of before - acting on emotion - I see some nerves were hit with rccola
I never said he was a good guy, worth while, or anything of the sort. I said - Like no one has ever fallen asleep during something important?
rc stated: "were talking about peoples homes and lives not an insurance seminar"
Wouldn't falling asleep at an insurance seminar in California be to the same effect?
And - so he was the only one in the whole room who dozed off?
I'm questioning the bloodthirsty reaction over someone nodding of in a meeting who is already on their way out of office - that's it
Ah fuck it - I see logic and reason have no place in politics - You either have to desperately cling to one side or the other - there's no room for non-partisan observers pointing out the fallacy in both sides
QuoteQuoteIt comes down to respect for the people who have suffered in the fires. I bet if he were at a meeting with his Energy Commision he would be wide eyed and ready to roll. We should make a list of all the POSITIVE things Mr. Cheney has done while he has been in office.
Does anyone want to start ?
I guess it was the respect aspect that had me so angry ...sorry if I pissed anyone off...I really value everyones opinion on this forum....except Liz King ;D ;Djust kidding friend!
Fair enough - no hard feelings?
My attempt was to come from the aspect of imaprtial observer - I really dont have a side in politics - they all suck balls. I guess it just strikes me odd that you see a lot of finger pointing about how bad the two asshats are - but the replacements IMHO are just as big of dipshits.
I wish there was a solution for dumbasses running this country - but it looks like there's no such luck this go round either.
I would like to see a 3rd or 4th party come into play in my lifetime
I spend too much time on Fark.com threads during the day - it gets me riled up - especially after my 5th cup of coffee & no cigs :o
I believe there are better options than our current administration on both sides.
Mccain, Biden, Obama, Paul, Huckabee, Richardson. I got no love for Hillary.
Is fark like drudge ? I must check it out.
Liz...definitely no hard feelings :D
The options might be a bit better than whats in there now, but jeesh - I got no love for any of 'em - on a scale of 1-10 its like going from 1 to 2. We're a long way from an ideal candidate - Now maybe if we could combine a few of them together it could work, but individually, not so good.
Yeah - fark is a lot like drudge - definitely check it out - you'll find all types round there - its the fastest forum I've ever posted on & probably some of the most random viewpoints I've ever heard.
QuoteLiz...definitely no hard feelings :D
COOL!!! ;D :)
nothing is better than a good debate that ends with no hard feelings...too bad countries and nations can't take the same approach
Quotenothing is better than a good debate that ends with no hard feelings...too bad countries and nations can't take the same approach
Amen. Just make sure that you don't take any swipes at Bear Bryant's peeps and we'll all be o.k.
Man, I think I fell asleep once during a Church concert in Miami. Or was that a drug overdose? Lower the curtain down in memphis, Lower the curtain down all right. I got no time for private consultation, Under the milky way tonight.
I think Cheney has a little more responsibility to stay awake than your average person. Considering he's like 2nd in command of the most powerful country in the history of civilization...
and Liz, if you hate politics so much, then maybe how about you don't talk about politics? Seems like a touchy subject for you.
Personally, I think Cheney should have one of those eye-lid-holder-uppers that they gave Malcolm McDowell in A Clockwork Orange and Cheney would be forced to watch endless loops of grieving soldiers' families, Katrina victims, Southern California fire victims, and Notre Dame football...
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;D
Notre Dame Football.
CLASSIC!!
Around election time I seem to find myself crossed with the same dilemma. Is it better to vote for the strongest democrat or an Independent Party. I would like to vote for an Independent party but I obviously know there aren't enough people out there YET that feel the same, so in some aspects it's like an empty vote. If I vote for a democrat it's at least more likely to have the possibility of getting us going in a better direction. On the other hand how will we ever know how many people are interested in voteing outside of the Democrat and Rebublican system if they never vote otherwise.
QuoteLike I said - so he fell asleep - Big Deal - does that change the outcome of the California fires?
I also said - if you want to crucify somebody - whatever - but at least present good reasons because there are plenty of them, whining gets kinda old
Here's a good reason. He's the VICE PRESIDENT! He shouldn't be falling asleep in that situation.
Quote I would like to vote for an Independent party but I obviously know there aren't enough people out there YET that feel the same, so in some aspects it's like an empty vote.
Indeed, yours is a two party system.
"An independent candidate? You might as well throw your vote away, hahaha"
It's either Kang or Kodos for you.
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QuoteAround election time I seem to find myself crossed with the same dilemma. Is it better to vote for the strongest democrat or an Independent Party. I would like to vote for an Independent party but I obviously know there aren't enough people out there YET that feel the same, so in some aspects it's like an empty vote. If I vote for a democrat it's at least more likely to have the possibility of getting us going in a better direction. On the other hand how will we ever know how many people are interested in voteing outside of the Democrat and Rebublican system if they never vote otherwise.
Thank you - you understand the point I was trying to make.
BTW- Tracy - I wont be talking politics in here again trust me.
here it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvAUYd5Z8Uc
I see why ol' Dick fell asleep now. First of all, a massive fire in California is little benefit at all to Haliburton. Second, just listen to Bush ramble on, that would put anyone to sleep. At 30 seconds he starts wishing he could control the wind, then explains that high winds feed fires. I did not know that. zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
doin' heck of a job Brownie ;)
Quotedoin' heck of a job Brownie ;)
Finally somebody thinking what I'm thinking. Isn't the contrast between this situation and Katrina delicious? I know some folks in N.O. that would've liked at least a sleeping Cheney to show up - but all of those black people? Yucky!!!!
QuoteQuotedoin' heck of a job Brownie ;)
Finally somebody thinking what I'm thinking. Isn't the contrast between this situation and Katrina delicious? I know some folks in N.O. that would've liked at least a sleeping Cheney to show up - but all of those black people? Yucky!!!!
jeeez soup, is anyone
not racist in your book?
QuoteQuoteQuotedoin' heck of a job Brownie ;)
Finally somebody thinking what I'm thinking. Isn't the contrast between this situation and Katrina delicious? I know some folks in N.O. that would've liked at least a sleeping Cheney to show up - but all of those black people? Yucky!!!!
jeeez soup, is anyone not racist in your book?
Lots of 'em. Don't think you are as far as I can tell. Cheney probably isn't either - just indifferent to the plight of people at the lower spectrums of society and that puts him in the same boat as most of our fearless leaders. You just can't deny the contrast between the reaction to Katrina and the reaction here. Or can you?
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuotedoin' heck of a job Brownie ;)
Finally somebody thinking what I'm thinking. Isn't the contrast between this situation and Katrina delicious? I know some folks in N.O. that would've liked at least a sleeping Cheney to show up - but all of those black people? Yucky!!!!
jeeez soup, is anyone not racist in your book?
Lots of 'em. Don't think you are as far as I can tell. Cheney probably isn't either - just indifferent to the plight of people at the lower spectrums of society and that puts him in the same boat as most of our fearless leaders. You just can't deny the contrast between the reaction to Katrina and the reaction here. Or can you?
Well, there's just a tad contrast in the scopes of Katrina compared to the fires in San Diego. Let's look at some numbers, shall we?
In California the fires affected 765 square miles and damage estimates are around 1 billion dollars and caused 14 deaths.
Katrina effected 90,000 square miles, caused over 80 billion in damages, and caused 1,800 deaths.
That's 117x greater in square miles, 80x the size in damage, and 128x greater in casualties.
A tad bit of difference between the scopes of the 2 disasters, don't you think?
comparing Katrina to the fires in California is like comparing, it's like, ummm, what is that saying...
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Both disasters have displaced over 200,000 people, both are using large stadiums to house refugees (WHOOPS!!!!! I mean residents), and both are serious tests of our ability to cope with natural diasasters while most of the National Guard continues on it's important hunt for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. People start chucking out statistics to cover inherent weaknesses in arguments. What the fuck does the geographic size of the disaster have to do with how our government responds to crisis?
Your point about the number of dead makes my point. Very few have died in these fires while 1,800 or so died in N.O. Why? It's easier to predict a hurricane than a wildfire (allthough as someone who has lived through 10 hurricanes or so through the years, I'm not so sure about this). And yes, local government response (or lack thereof) is as big a culprit if not bigger than George and company, but perception is important to people and Georgie knows this more than anyone ("Mission Accomplished" anyone?)
The real test will be in the rebuilding. There was great debate as to whether N.O. should even be rebult - we will hear no such argument about San Diego. Much of N.O. is still a wasteland - my bet is that San Diego plus 2 years will look much different.
So maybe oranges to tangerines.
My use of statistics is to show the difference in the disasters, and why comparing responses between the 2 is a waste of time. If you cannot grasp the fact that a disaster that happens over a 90,000 square mile area is different than a disaster that occurs over a 765 square mile area, then I just can't explain it to you.
Do rich people get preferential treatment over poor people? Yes. (you didn't need 2 disasters to occur at different ends of the nation, both economically and racially, to figure this out, did you?).
Part of this sounds like you're a little pissed about the slow response to Katrina (damned if you don't) and you're a little pissed about the quick response to the disaster that happened on 1/127th the scale (damned if you do).
petunias to begonias
(seriously though, does your anger have anything to do with the refs that were paid off at the Rutgers/USF game?)
You are in rare form today buddy.
pretty sure bowl can take whatever silly BS I can dish out. I just hope I don't have to use my secret weapon...
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The similarities are there in terms of scope when you compare the number of people who had to get the fuck out quickly. It ain't the same, but it certainly illustrates fundamental economically-based issues that are quickly undoing our country. Learn Mandarin Chinese - it'll be handy in a few years.
So....Backstreet Boys to NSynch.
And yes, my anger stems from the fix at the USF/Rutgers game. I'm glad that you have finally acknowledged the truth behind the great right-wing conspiracy to undermine the running of the bulls.
Quotepretty sure bowl can take whatever silly BS I can dish out. I just hope I don't have to use my secret weapon...
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I surrender. I have no defense against Canadian prog-rock. Or Canadian bacon for that matter. Or Ann Murray.