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Title: Guerilla Art
Post by: vespachick on Nov 18, 2007, 07:51 PM
So, I'm really torn about some guerilla art that's gone up around my apartment. Somebody has put up all these paintings around my part of town, more each day. They're done on large pieces of plywood (most of which are at least 2x3 - some much bigger, some a bit smaller).  Each are of them are nailed, heavily, to phone polls and they don't come off with two-handed pulling (I've tried; hammer no go).  They're very rudimentary paintings, a bit "Pollacky" in nature and all they say is "Portland", or "Portland Unite".  I LOVE THEM; can't stop thinking about them.  Each day it seems another is put up.  This morning I saw a new one and I need to have it. The question is whether it's a morally corrupt thing to do, steal one that is.  I mean, in the first place it's guerrilla art and they have no right to be put up in the first place.  Secondly, isn't the whole idea of art to inspire people?  And if I did manage to steal one and hang it on my own wall, wouldn't it necessarily cause me to be thinking about the art on a daily basis thereby justifiying the piece as art?  Oh, conflict. Oh, who has a crow-bar....
Title: Re: Guerrilla Art
Post by: aMD on Nov 18, 2007, 07:59 PM
I bet the artist would appreciate your admiration and determination to obtain the art.  I say go for it.  of you get one you ought to post a pic so we can see it.
Title: Re: Guerrilla Art
Post by: vespachick on Nov 18, 2007, 09:38 PM
Pictures of those which I covet:

(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o291/okonokos/GuerrillaNW24Lovejoy002.jpg)
(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o291/okonokos/GuerrillaNW23Quimby.jpg)
(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o291/okonokos/GuerrillaNW23Kearny.jpg%3Cbr%20/%3E)
(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o291/okonokos/GuerrillaNW23Glisan.jpg)
(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o291/okonokos/GuerrillaNW23Everett.jpg)
Title: Re: Guerrilla Art
Post by: red on Nov 18, 2007, 09:39 PM
That's really cool!
Title: Re: Guerrilla Art
Post by: ManNamedTruth on Nov 18, 2007, 10:51 PM
QuoteSo, I'm really torn about some guerrilla art that's gone up around my apartment. Somebody has put up all these paintings around my part of town, more each day. They're done on large pieces of plywood (most of which are at least 2x3 - some much bigger, some a bit smaller).  Each are of them are nailed, heavily, to phone polls and they don't come off with two-handed pulling (I've tried; hammer no go).  They're very rudimentary paintings, a bit "Pollacky" in nature and all they say is "Portland", or "Portland Unite".  I LOVE THEM; can't stop thinking about them.  Each day it seems another is put up.  This morning I saw a new one and I need to have it. The question is whether it's a morally corrupt thing to do, steal one that is.  I mean, in the first place it's guerrilla art and they have no right to be put up in the first place.  Secondly, isn't the whole idea of art to inspire people?  And if I did manage to steal one and hang it on my own wall, wouldn't it necessarily cause me to be thinking about the art on a daily basis thereby justifiying the piece as art?  Oh, conflict. Oh, who has a crow-bar....


speaking as an artist, i know not everyone appreciates it or gets it. i think if you like it that much then you should deffinately take one. go for it!  [smiley=thumbup.gif]
Title: Re: Guerrilla Art
Post by: TheBigChicken on Nov 19, 2007, 07:29 AM
very cool...
Title: Re: Guerrilla Art
Post by: ycartrob on Nov 19, 2007, 09:58 AM
so I've looked all these paintings at every possible angle and I still don't see a guerrilla.

Can someone help me?  Thanks
Title: Re: Guerrilla Art
Post by: pawpaw on Nov 19, 2007, 01:26 PM
Cool post! I'd say keep the signs up, the artist put them out in public to be seen. But, I'm pretty sure they'll be taken down soon, either by the city or others who think they're cool looking, so if you want one, act fast!

I see quite a bit of guerrilla, street art in the area I work (SOMA/Mission, SF). Screenprinted posters and fliers, custom stickers, tags and murals on sidewalks and walls. There are a lot of talented and clever artists around here, and they often have vital points of view on a wide range of social and politcal issues. Other times, there is no message, only a cool or funny graphic, masterfully executed. I personally always appreciated a well placed, well done piece of guerrilla art. Many pieces have been done with permission, have lasted for years, and are defining components of alleys, blocks and neighborhoods.

BUT, I also sympathize with the propoerty owners whose buildings these pieces often end up on without permission. At the very least, it takes time to clean up, if not quite a bit of money to touch up or re-paint a building. While I appreciate a lot of the work that goes up, I also say that if anyone gets caught doing any work without permission, they should face the legal consequences. I've always thought that posters are a good, relatively harmless option (and the plywood signs up in Portland too). Also, I can't stand the little scrawling, amateur tags that are often quickly done on the fronts of buildings, sides of buses, quick little artless shit. Bring some imagination and beauty to the streets!
Title: Re: Guerrilla Art
Post by: MarkW on Nov 19, 2007, 04:47 PM
I love to see Banksy's stuff every now and again in London.  He's a star (and now uber famous)...

(http://www.banksy.co.uk/outdoors/images/landscapes/kissingcoppers3.jpg)

Sorry it's so big  :-/
Title: Re: Guerrilla Art
Post by: red on Nov 19, 2007, 04:51 PM
Banksy's stuff rules!  I posted my current wallpaper (one his works) in the random image thread.  One day I'll see some with my own eyes.
Title: Re: Guerrilla Art
Post by: bowl of soup on Nov 19, 2007, 05:43 PM
My daughter did work very similar.  Allthough she generally calls for her and Zappa (my dog) to unite in ever more complex plans to tip over the candy bowl.  She's 4.
Title: Re: Guerrilla Art
Post by: Jenny on Nov 20, 2007, 10:32 PM
take it. leave a note. tell them how lovely.

also, look at this.
http://www.frogview.com/show2.php?file=2450

i'm jealous.
Title: Re: Guerrilla Art
Post by: vespachick on Nov 25, 2007, 04:12 AM
HA HA!!  Got it!  I rallied my friend to go down to the corner with me, along with the crowbar I got from my Dad's garage over thanksgiving, to go get the art. So we cruised down there, and while we pulled and tugged and tried to get the art off the post, we were just not strong enough... so I'm tugging on the crowbar and "V" is keeping look out, we can't get it it off and we're debating about going back home to get a step stool... we tug some more ...a car rolls up and a guy jumps out of the back seat and immediately runs over and and grabs the tool from V and says that he, too, hates this art that somebody put up (!!!). Two tugs and into the street the plywood goes.  They drive off happily knowing they did some good tonight.  Thanks buddy!!  We cheer, we throw devil horns, we pick up the plywood Art from the street and surrupticiously walk up the street, giddely, walking home talking about how great it is to live here. And we drink more wine.  I's nice....
(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o291/okonokos/Guerrilla013a.jpg)
Title: Re: Guerrilla Art
Post by: TheBigChicken on Nov 25, 2007, 05:15 AM
damn I'm so jealous....who's that on the magazine cover....nice touch babe ;)
Title: Re: Guerrilla Art
Post by: vespachick on Jan 05, 2008, 04:58 AM
http://wweek.com/wwire/?p=10032
Somebody else noticed the coolness...
Title: Re: Guerrilla Art
Post by: Such on Jan 05, 2008, 07:11 PM
oh hell ya!
Title: Re: Guerilla Art
Post by: vespachick on Feb 08, 2008, 11:57 PM
Believe it or not, as it's turning out, this local artist was recently charged with 31 felonies for putting up his stuff I wrote about.  Absolutely ridiculous.  Seriously, this is what the coppers are worring about?  I'm sure there are mcuh more important things that my tax dollar can go toward.

http://blog.oregonlive.com/breakingnews/2008/01/gallery_owner_charged_with_31.html

Gallery owner charged with 31 counts of vandalism over power pole art
Posted by The Oregonian January 31, 2008 18:25PM
Categories: Breaking News

One man's art is another man's graffiti. Or maybe criminal vandalism.

Ryan Wendell Birkland, a 31-year-old owner of a Northwest Portland art gallery, was arrested this afternoon by Portland Police Bureau for blurring the boundary between art and graffiti.

Birkland was charged with 31 counts of first-degree criminal mischief for graffiti vandalism.
Portland Police BureauOne of the plywood boards allegedly placed on utility poles by Ryan Birkland.

Matt Miller, an officer with the bureau's Central Precinct Neighborhood Response Team, said bail for Birkland has been at $150,000. Arraignment, likely in Multnomah County Circuit Court, could be today, Miller said.

Birkland did not give police the reasons for his actions, Miller said. "He asked for an attorney."

"I'll tell you," Miller said, "the graffiti that he was putting on the poles was different from the art that he had in his art studio. He obviously spent much more time and effort on the art in his studio. It was different altogether."

Anyone with information in the ongoing investigation should call Miller at 503-823-0065.

Miller said Birkland appeared to have committed the crimes during fall, placing large plywood boards with painted images onto multiple Portland General Electric utility poles across the city. Miller said roughly 30 boards were nailed to the by Birkland, who police believe acted alone.

Birkland also is accused of vandalizing a water tank in Washington Park.

Miller said he began working on the case in November after the tank was vandalized and, while driving in Northwest Portland, he noticed a utility pole with one of the plywood boards.

A call from a Portland Water Bureau employee led Miller to Gallery 19.

"I went to that location, looked through the front window, and saw three pieces of plywood with the same graffiti on the floor resting against the wall."
Title: Re: Guerilla Art
Post by: the_wizzard on Feb 09, 2008, 01:56 AM
QuoteBelieve it or not, as it's turning out, this local artist was recently charged with 31 felonies for putting up his stuff I wrote about.  Absolutely ridiculous.  Seriously, this is what the coppers are worring about?  I'm sure there are mcuh more important things that my tax dollar can go toward.

http://blog.oregonlive.com/breakingnews/2008/01/gallery_owner_charged_with_31.html

Gallery owner charged with 31 counts of vandalism over power pole art
Posted by The Oregonian January 31, 2008 18:25PM
Categories: Breaking News

One man's art is another man's graffiti. Or maybe criminal vandalism.

Ryan Wendell Birkland, a 31-year-old owner of a Northwest Portland art gallery, was arrested this afternoon by Portland Police Bureau for blurring the boundary between art and graffiti.

Birkland was charged with 31 counts of first-degree criminal mischief for graffiti vandalism.
Portland Police BureauOne of the plywood boards allegedly placed on utility poles by Ryan Birkland.

Matt Miller, an officer with the bureau's Central Precinct Neighborhood Response Team, said bail for Birkland has been at $150,000. Arraignment, likely in Multnomah County Circuit Court, could be today, Miller said.

Birkland did not give police the reasons for his actions, Miller said. "He asked for an attorney."

"I'll tell you," Miller said, "the graffiti that he was putting on the poles was different from the art that he had in his art studio. He obviously spent much more time and effort on the art in his studio. It was different altogether."

Anyone with information in the ongoing investigation should call Miller at 503-823-0065.

Miller said Birkland appeared to have committed the crimes during fall, placing large plywood boards with painted images onto multiple Portland General Electric utility poles across the city. Miller said roughly 30 boards were nailed to the by Birkland, who police believe acted alone.

Birkland also is accused of vandalizing a water tank in Washington Park.

Miller said he began working on the case in November after the tank was vandalized and, while driving in Northwest Portland, he noticed a utility pole with one of the plywood boards.

A call from a Portland Water Bureau employee led Miller to Gallery 19.

"I went to that location, looked through the front window, and saw three pieces of plywood with the same graffiti on the floor resting against the wall."

I'm with you vespa, so not cool...he is an artist who brought some life to other-wise lifeless poles around town.  And he is an artist.  point blank.  not some lame tager.

http://www.ilovegraffiti.com/
*just some great urban murals  :)
Title: Re: Guerilla Art
Post by: ManNamedTruth on Feb 09, 2008, 03:38 AM
BS. don't cops have anything else to do? go solve some real crimes.
Title: Re: Guerilla Art
Post by: easy jim on Feb 09, 2008, 09:34 PM
great detective work buddy...je-zuus.

that's amazing art.  i would have grabbed one (or two) because some might have ended up trashed by the cops or something.  great find, vespa!
Title: Re: Guerrilla Art
Post by: the_wizzard on Feb 12, 2008, 09:34 PM
QuoteHA HA!!  Got it!  I rallied my friend to go down to the corner with me, along with the crowbar I got from my Dad's garage over thanksgiving, to go get the art. So we cruised down there, and while we pulled and tugged and tried to get the art off the post, we were just not strong enough... so I'm tugging on the crowbar and "V" is keeping look out, we can't get it it off and we're debating about going back home to get a step stool... we tug some more ...a car rolls up and a guy jumps out of the back seat and immediately runs over and and grabs the tool from V and says that he, too, hates this art that somebody put up (!!!). Two tugs and into the street the plywood goes.  They drive off happily knowing they did some good tonight.  Thanks buddy!!  We cheer, we throw devil horns, we pick up the plywood Art from the street and surrupticiously walk up the street, giddely, walking home talking about how great it is to live here. And we drink more wine.  I's nice....
(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o291/okonokos/Guerrilla013a.jpg)

Vespa, turns out that my friends know this guy through the art world...I'll be sure to pass it along to them that someone saved a great piece (I never saw that one, but it is my new favorite), and that there are peeps in Portland who appreciated what he did.  

What, are they going to go after this guy next?
http://www.flickr.com/groups/allthetinyhorses/pool/
http://www.horseproject.net/pbhorse.htm
Title: Re: Guerrilla Art
Post by: vespachick on Feb 12, 2008, 11:39 PM
Quotehttp://www.flickr.com/groups/allthetinyhorses/pool/[/url]
http://www.horseproject.net/pbhorse.htm

Thanks Wizz!  Oh, man, I LOVE those horses. Thanks for the link, I have wondered where they wandered in from.  I need to go the Dollar Store and help the movement!!

By the way, mine is my favorite, too, I chose it specifically; but the funny thing is that there's one over by the McMennamins on 21st & Glisan and it's still there - even though I did see it in the "evidence" photos that were posted on a blog which were seemingly confiscated.  It's not such a great one by itself (colors and lines are pukey), but when you see it, it's hysterical because the actual signage for the restaurant "Blue Moon" is a big, giant blue moon.  So, on the pole directly in front of the place is this giant, oggly moon face staring pie-eyed with heart-shaped pupils longingly gazing at the blue moon.  It's really great.  I can't figure out why they did'nt take it down, except maybe, MAYBE, they do realize this is Portland for chrissake.