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Title: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: n00bitron5000 on Jun 23, 2008, 07:11 AM
I am a senior member on this board who wanted to post this anonymously because I usually don't get involved in this silliness but I can't help myself. Plus, I'm leaving and would like to say my peace.

This whole thing of people not feeling welcome, unfair attacks, and confrontation after confrontation did NOT start with the influx of newbies, it happened when the album leaked. Some of the very members in here who are bitching about this new tone to the board are some of the very members who are responsible for it.  

Tom talks (to no end) about how accepting this community used to be when only the other day he was bragging about helping forcing Dylan leave by making him feel unwelcome.  You set the tone, Tom.  This place has always been welcome "to some" not everyone and you are partly responsible for that fact.

Tracy won't stop bitching about Trolls and he has admitted in the past that he often intentionally tries to elicit an emotional response from people, which is the definition of a troll.  Talk about reaping what you sow!  It is YOUR fault that the board has sunk to this level.  More and more people are calling you out (including our new mod) and you're just getting huffy about it.  The young guys are beating you at your own game.
     
Senior members were leaving this place before bluntmaster even registered because of people like Tom and Tracy.  The difference is now that their cliché is having trouble over-powering some of the new members, but they continue fighting the same battles with different people (although they insist everyone who disagrees with them is Dylan in disguise) and in the process they have alienated those of us who come here to check up on and talk about our favorite band, not rub elbows with our interweb pals.  

Tom and Tracy made the most knowledgeable person on this board (about the band) feel unwelcome and now they want to bitch about their friends (EC, etc.) being made to feel unwelcome, well some of us don't want to hear it.  Again, you set the tone by making it clear that knowledge of the band and sharing that knowledge is not as important as being well-liked by you (Tom, Tracy, and others). Now this whole board gets to reap what YOU sowed as we have little Tracy's and Tom's popping up everyday, starting fights and making people feel unwelcome.

I think this is my last post on this account or any other.  You won't be able to figure out who I am though because so many senior members are leaving these days.  I just needed to point out that that has at least as much to do with people like Tom and Tracy as with newbies like Bluntmaster and Goatboy.  
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: ycartrob on Jun 23, 2008, 07:52 AM
QuoteI am a senior member on this board who wanted to post this anonymously because I usually don't get involved in this silliness but I can't help myself. Plus, I'm leaving and would like to say my peace.

This whole thing of people not feeling welcome, unfair attacks, and confrontation after confrontation did NOT start with the influx of newbies, it happened when the album leaked. Some of the very members in here who are bitching about this new tone to the board are some of the very members who are responsible for it.  

Tom talks (to no end) about how accepting this community used to be when only the other day he was bragging about helping forcing Dylan leave by making him feel unwelcome.  You set the tone, Tom.  This place has always been welcome "to some" not everyone and you are partly responsible for that fact.

Tracy won't stop bitching about Trolls and he has admitted in the past that he often intentionally tries to elicit an emotional response from people, which is the definition of a troll.  Talk about reaping what you sow!  It is YOUR fault that the board has sunk to this level.  More and more people are calling you out (including our new mod) and you're just getting huffy about it.  The young guys are beating you at your own game.
     
Senior members were leaving this place before bluntmaster even registered because of people like Tom and Tracy.  The difference is now that their cliché is having trouble over-powering some of the new members, but they continue fighting the same battles with different people (although they insist everyone who disagrees with them is Dylan in disguise) and in the process they have alienated those of us who come here to check up on and talk about our favorite band, not rub elbows with our interweb pals.  

Tom and Tracy made the most knowledgeable person on this board (about the band) feel unwelcome and now they want to bitch about their friends (EC, etc.) being made to feel unwelcome, well some of us don't want to hear it.  Again, you set the tone by making it clear that knowledge of the band and sharing that knowledge is not as important as being well-liked by you (Tom, Tracy, and others). Now this whole board gets to reap what YOU sowed as we have little Tracy's and Tom's popping up everyday, starting fights and making people feel unwelcome.

I think this is my last post on this account or any other.  You won't be able to figure out who I am though because so many senior members are leaving these days.  I just needed to point out that that has at least as much to do with people like Tom and Tracy as with newbies like Bluntmaster and Goatboy.  

(you have felt this way for how long and all you had to do was PM me to resolve it but you decided instead to post your feelings anonymously on a public thread to handle it? wow!)

An anonymous poster, a sr. member calling me out, how fitting.    ;D   classic

great points, you're exactly right. And I have not changed my tone or approach in 5 years. In fact, I have toned it down (hard to believe?). Nor have I ever threatened anyone with physical violence like some knowledgeble ex-members.

I'll continue to call people out who I think are being uncool; the band pays me to do so.

it is what it is.

the fact you posted this anonymously tells me how passionate you are about the subject ;)

-and for the record, I have never mentioned Dylan's name since he left, until now. I have done that out of respect for Dylan's friends here who are also my friends. All that is in the past as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: Angry Ewok on Jun 23, 2008, 08:08 AM
When the album leaked, this board saw dozens of people register here for the sole purpose of stealing the band's new album. Some of them even had the gall to criticize the work. Obviously, that wore on everyone here and rightfully so.

I know this means nothing coming from me, but I pardon all of the regulars here who eventually wore thin and were not their normal, welcome selves. I'm hoping I get the same sort of pardon, because I was getting really fucking pissed, myself. I know my tone changed after that first night.

For about three days, we were subject to a relentless badgering... I received something like a half dozen private messages from noobs asking me for a link to the pirated copy... and I was very outspoken against it. I can't imagine what some of the neutral folks had to put up with.

I any event, thankfully, that time has passed for now. Sure, I hope we know how to handle it better with the next major release... but remember in three or four years we had never seen anything like this before. Next time, it'll go smoother. For CC, especially, now that he has reinforcements.

Now, I don't know if you're a historical revisionist or something, but Dylan was not run out of here by Tom Eisenbraun. It was nearly the opposite, actually, but you didn't see the insane, ranting private messages Dylan sent Tom, so you didn't know that. Anyway, Dylan took heat from a shitload of people because he not only pirated the new album, but he was proud of it and basically said he was entitled to pirate their work.

...but that whole episode, ultimately, was not why he left. What really happened is that Dylan, out of the blue, talked shit about John Conaway - conjuring him up from years of idleness - and when word eventually got back to John, and John was revived in his own defense, CC backed John by setting Dylan in his place. CC basically shamed Dylan publicly, saying, "I know John and he's cool, I don't know you and the shit you say is out of line, and the grudge you've had for years is just scary," Dylan felt the heat and got out of the kitchen. I'm not sure if that thread still exists, but that's how it really happened.

Still, I don't like seeing people talk about Dylan. He's gone, now. It's over. I don't like folks talking about him, mainly because I fear that he might come back to "defend himself" and the handful of us that he despises the most would be subject, once again, to the same private tirades all over again. I wish folks would let it go... for our own sakes... it's not like we've somehow lost our only elder, and our last link to My Morning Jacket history. There are plenty of knowledgeable folks around here and so far none of them have sent me any sick, insane tirades through private messaging.

Anyway...

I don't know who you are, but I've got a good idea... we may have even met, once... Funny how after three or four years of correspondences, we begin to learn one another's writing style and there eventually comes a voice with the narration, which is then replaced by that person's real voice. That's so much fun.

It's sad to lose another voice in the crowd, but with or without you, we will move forward. You should think about that before you decide to leave... this place won't look the same in a month, or a year, or five years... it may be better, it may be worse, but it's always changing and regardless of whether or not the regulars are a constant - this place will exist for better or for worse. Your presence can make this place a much better place, or you could be a cancer on our little community.

In the end, that part is left totally up to you.
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: ycartrob on Jun 23, 2008, 08:28 AM
Brad, even though I'll be hating you again in Aug. when football season starts, that was a great post.  Thanks
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: n00bitron5000 on Jun 23, 2008, 08:36 AM
I don't know what Dylan wrote in those pms and neither you do.  It's hearsay.  I do know that if he really didn't write those things, these attacks that you and others have levelled on him on a public forum (that he's no longer a part of) are tantamount to slander punishable by law, so you better hope your buddy Tom isn't lying.  

Tom attacked Dylan the other day calling him a motherfucker and directly attacking his character on the public forum.  How is that okay but bluntmaster (or aMD's) comments are somehow out of line?  You can't have your cake and eat it too.  If you think it's okay to make people feel unwelcome, prepare to be made to feel unwelcome.  That's not even to mention the fact that Dylan's "attack of John" was nothing compared to how you all have dragged his name through the mud since he quit the forum. But I digress...

The point is the people who are bitching about the board being ruined are the very people who have ruined this board and I couldn't go away without saying it, even if it was anonymously.  Pretty soon there will be very little info here, the covers comp and the Ger's archive already seem to be defunct. It'll just be fighting, gushing and elbow rubbing.  Maybe someone will start a new, more worthwhile jacket forum.  Until then, adios.
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: ycartrob on Jun 23, 2008, 08:46 AM
QuoteI don't know what Dylan wrote in those pms and neither you do.  It's hearsay.  I do know that if he really didn't write those things, these attacks that you and others have levelled on him on a public forum (that he's no longer a part of) are tantamount to slander punishable by law, so you better hope your buddy Tom isn't lying.  

that's actually why I saved mine, with the time, date, and signature stamps.

(I thought you were leaving? or perhaps you'll continue to post using your "real" fake name? The suspense is killing me.)
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: TheBigChicken on Jun 23, 2008, 09:01 AM
And like sands through the hour glass,so are the days of our lives.....getting JUST a LITTLE soapy in here...that's ok cause I haven't showered this morning :)
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: getinthevan on Jun 23, 2008, 09:48 AM
Welcome to the boa...  oh, nevermind...  bye.
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: Angry Ewok on Jun 23, 2008, 10:29 AM
QuoteI don't know what Dylan wrote in those pms and neither you do.  It's hearsay.  I do know that if he really didn't write those things, these attacks that you and others have levelled on him on a public forum (that he's no longer a part of) are tantamount to slander punishable by law, so you better hope your buddy Tom isn't lying.  

He isn't lying, and you wanna know how I was able to verify the legitmacy of those private messages Tom told me about? I simply compared them to the two dozen or so that he had sent me.

I'm pretty sure there is a function where you can forward PM, anyway.

QuoteTom attacked Dylan the other day calling him a motherfucker and directly attacking his character on the public forum.  How is that okay but bluntmaster (or aMD's) comments are somehow out of line?

It's not okay. I actually sent Tom a private message and gave him a phone call and begged him to never say anything like that, ever again.

QuoteThat's not even to mention the fact that Dylan's "attack of John" was nothing compared to how you all have dragged his name through the mud since he quit the forum.

I know this isn't referring to me, but I will say I'm not so sure John would agree with that. It doesn't matter, though. John was over it for the longest time... and I'm ready to be over it right now. I wish we would all move on, for everyone's sake and sanity.

QuotePretty soon there will be very little info here, the covers comp and the Ger's archive already seem to be defunct.

Ger has a great website... but what's to stop someone, say, me, from making a new website and having it re-affiliated with the official website? None of that information is going to be "lost forever", man, so why the mourning? This is the internet, dude, most information published once is forever in permenance. It isn't fun making an A-to-Z songlisting, but I did it. It isn't fun designing a tabs site, but I did it. It isn't fun compiling every setlist ever, but it's been done. It won't be fun archiving all of the comp's, but it's not anymore difficult than anything else us fanatics have already accomplished. All of this stuff is possible because no single person is a sole witness to MMJ history. It baffles me how some folks want to write this stuff off as lost forever. Hello?!

QuoteIt'll just be fighting, gushing and elbow rubbing.  Maybe someone will start a new, more worthwhile jacket forum.  Until then, adios.

Look... I've met a lot of people on this forum and all but a couple are easily the greatest people I've ever met. Even Tracy is a very cool guy ( ;D)... I'm afraid to try and name all of you guys that I consider my best buddies, because I know with my memory I'd forget someone and then feel bad about it... but the fact is, these people have been very good to me, the band and its staff have been very good to me, and there's simply no way I'm leaving on account of anything. After three or four years of posting here, this is my interweb home.

If you really are gone forever, I wish you god speed. If you're one of those awesome people I'm talking about - don't forget to write, because I know I would miss the friendship
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: wss on Jun 23, 2008, 10:33 AM
QuoteI'll continue to call people out who I think are being uncool; the band pays me to do so.

it is what it is.

the band pays you to be rude to people?  i find that quite amazing (and f'ed up).
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: primushead on Jun 23, 2008, 10:53 AM
Quote
QuoteI'll continue to call people out who I think are being uncool; the band pays me to do so.

it is what it is.

the band pays you to be rude to people?  i find that quite amazing (and f'ed up).

In his defense, he hasn't been rude.  He's at least using civilized arguments instead of dropping f-bomb after f-bomb.
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: wss on Jun 23, 2008, 11:18 AM
i apologize. rude was a poor choice of words.

that said, i think that saying the band pays him to call people out - if this is true, that is not right.  if it's not true, saying it in a place where people will believe the band does this sort of thing - is not cool.

i think when people try to start fights and other people engage them, it's wrong on both sides.  it often feels like that is one of the main purposes of many internet forums.  it's a place for people to get out whatever aggression they can't in real life or something, which bums me out, actually.
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: Angry Ewok on Jun 23, 2008, 11:22 AM
Quotei i think that saying the band pays him to call people out - if this is true, that is not right.  if it's not true, saying it in a place where people will believe the band does this sort of thing - is not cool.

You'll find that the band seems to employ a lot of sarcastic assholes around here.

;D

...but seriously.

;D
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: The DARK on Jun 23, 2008, 11:42 AM
It's simple, really. We're just a bunch of guys trying to have fun and worship the Jacket.  It's all good with Tracy, we know that he's just messing around most of the time and trying to have fun like the rest of us. The thing is that we're getting new fans every day with this new album, some of whom are really trying to offend on purpose. The only rule we really have here is "Don't mess with our brotherhood", because that's the one thing that sets us above the other message boards. That's why I personally don't have a huge problem with bluntmaster, while he's really not doing himself any favors, he's not trying to ruin the place either. Just try not to feed the fire.
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: Penny Lane on Jun 23, 2008, 11:44 AM
i feel like i just watched an episode of the The View or something---too much estrogen lol 8-)
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: Jenny on Jun 23, 2008, 11:50 AM
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Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: shockadow on Jun 23, 2008, 12:02 PM
I'd like to chime in here since some of my earlier post may have caused devisiness and hurt feelings.

Here is the problem as I see it.

MMJ make positive, feel-good music from a place that is a perfect little garden of kindness, positivity, and peace.
Real people simply can't actually live up to the standards of the music.  At least not the thousands of new fans the band has.  

When i originally suggested that the leak might have been a promotional tool by the record comany, Jonconaway and tracy PERSONALLY ATTACKED me in anyway they could to try and discount my thoughts.  I had good points and they attacked my writing style and grammar.  I expected that the MODS would give me the boot for ruffling so many established feathers but the guy, CCBAXTER, was very cool and did nothing of the sort.  

When there are 50 forum members and many of them have a face-to-face, personal history, it makes bonding and communicating a very easy task.  Now introduce 10,000 new fans who want info, freebies, and to mini-blog about their new favorite music and you have the original members feeling not that important anymore.  It sucks and it's not fair but welcome to the newfound success of your lil' band.

An easy way to prove my point:
Mr Anonymous had some super valid points of contention but the only thing the SENIOR MEMBERS did (tracy) was attack him for being anonymous and brag that the band pays you to asshole-up the forum.
You totally reap what you sow, Trace.

It seems there is a concerted effort to keep change from happening.  Which is a direct opposite affect to what this band is doing with their career right now.  It's the age of the interweb.  You can't just hope that things stay stattus quo and bitch when they change. You'll run yourselves out of places you love if you do that.

If this pisses you off, sorry.  I won't be shamed into leaving like the Dylan guy.  He was always nice and generous to me so I guess i had a different experience with him than many of you but we all agree that it sucks that his knowledge/resources are gone.

Also, learn to take a tounge-in-cheek statement as that.  Sometimes, people try to use the forum to get their personality across.  Don't always get so pissed of about lil' statements.  It makes ya feel older than ya are.  It also ruins the vibe.

Oh yeah, one last thing.  I want to point out that this is MYMORNINGJACKET's forum.  No one should be allowed to come on this forum and BASH the band/music based on opinion.  That shit is disrespectful and should be squashed immediately.  If someone has valid facts, fine.  But saying"Highly Suspicious" is gay and Jim must be stupid for penning it", should warrant a verbal thrashing.  Please take your negative reviews to Pitchfork or Stereogum, jerky!  You wouldn't go to your new inlaws house and dog them for their cooking or furniture, would ya?
Be respectful.  all will be "oakee-doakee"!!

I write alot and forget most of what i've written so if I contradict something i said previously, i apologize.  

this is how i feel right now.
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: Angry Ewok on Jun 23, 2008, 12:08 PM
QuoteMr Anonymous had some super valid points of contention but the only thing the SENIOR MEMBERS did (tracy) was attack him for being anonymous and brag that the band pays you to asshole-up the forum.

I think it's a stretch to say the only thing senior members did was attack him, when I wrote a fucking thesis of a response... but I have to say it is freaking hilarious that you note Tracy as a senior member... you know... 'cause he's really old.

:D ;D
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: shockadow on Jun 23, 2008, 12:13 PM
Sorry ewok, I wasn't speaking about you.  I should have been more clear.  
You get my point, though.
Right?
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: Angry Ewok on Jun 23, 2008, 12:15 PM
QuoteSorry ewok, I wasn't speaking about you.  I should have been more clear.  
You get my point, though.
Right?

Absolutely. I'm just having fun with this thread at this point.
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: shockadow on Jun 23, 2008, 12:15 PM
Ya know,


To me, everyone on the Interweb is a 18 year old, nubile, hottie with a dysfuntional family...

Never gave it a minute's more thought.

:o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: Angry Ewok on Jun 23, 2008, 12:18 PM
I'm actually 23, but you are correct to presume I am a hottie with a dysfunctional family.

Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: SMc55 on Jun 23, 2008, 12:57 PM
Quote---too much estrogen lol 8-)
What does that mean?
It seems as offensive as any cursing to me.
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: CC on Jun 23, 2008, 01:08 PM
People, don't you all forget this is a place with 5000 different opinions. You will never get along with everybody, it's just not gonna happen. You really shouldn't get worked up about things written on a forum. Discuss, ofcourse, discodance, ofcourse, but I sometimes get the feeling people are actually losing sleep over stuff that goes down here. That's silly. Every now and then someone will come along to purposely stir shit up. Some will learn. Some will be history, sooner or later. Agree, disagree. Dance, discodance.
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: ycartrob on Jun 23, 2008, 01:48 PM
I am here to speak my mind, but if some think I am harsh,
then it's noted. I will keep that in mind. But, I have a hard
time believing some here actually get their feelings hurt,
however, I won't rule that out. If I feel that happens, I will
usually PM you to check in, and you know who you are b/c
I actually do that. I have no problem backing off, if I offend.

Some of you want to play the victim; If on 1 thread you're
dissing all female musicans and making sexists comments,
yet you're offended that I challenge your grammar, then I can't
help you. I think you can handle it. But if I am wrong, let me
know via PM.

But if I apologize to you 3 times (which has happened here) and you won't accept, then I cannot help you.

Some of you remember Ratsprayer (Dave). He and I went at
each other tooth and nail, but through PM's and seeing each other at a
show, we came to a mutual respect and we still keep in touch.
I don't recall which one of us reached out, but it happened, and
we have each other's backs, even though we disagree on many
subjects.



I challenge everyone to check themselves and quit blaming
everyone else for the decline of this forum and I will do the
same.


Be safe
Be well
See you on the rail

Peace

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Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: MMJ_fanatic on Jun 23, 2008, 02:00 PM
I purposely didn't get involved in the crap around here lately because I think its pointless.  This is an anonymous forum and only a select few here will ever actually meet in person--because they want too.  I personally am very much against the actions of those who snatched up leak copies of the new disc, against the band's wishes, and would have relished ATO suing them for copyright infringement--but that's just my old fashioned-ness.
Everyone would do weel to get over themselves and get back to heaping love on our spectacular band.
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: shockadow on Jun 23, 2008, 02:18 PM
2 things.....

1.  If you are looking to be offended, you will be.  We don't need those kind of prople bogging down this forum.


2.  ANY picture of Celine Dion totally fucking offends me and you should be ashamed for posting it.

Tracy(i thought you were a girl, sorry),
I can take anything you wanna give me but the comment about women playing skin flutes was a joke.    Albiet crass, I thought that making a correlation between musical instruments and a skin"flute" would be percieved as hilarious.  Guess i'm just learnin' my way around here.  I am still sorry that EC(whoever) got offended and left the forum.  We are stronger when we have each other to rely on and when a huge figure like her or Dylan leaves, we all suffer.

This is one of the best band forums there are.  I frequent many and i prefer to hang out here and @ the Ween forum.  I betcha it's only gonna get better, too!

I love you guys!!!  I'm buyin' beers @ the Fox show!!!
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: Jaimoe on Jun 23, 2008, 03:25 PM
There's a big difference between "being offended" and being offensive. I get my hackles up with the latter, and it usually has nothing to do with music or MMJ.
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: CC on Jun 23, 2008, 03:43 PM
True, offensive behaviour is not a quality be proud of. Not all moves will be tolerated, unless we're talking discodance.
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: BH on Jun 23, 2008, 04:12 PM
Can we stop all this?  If only just so I don't have to look at Celine Dion anymore.  

Seriously, I am high on forum love right now.  Don't ruin my buzz.
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: Jaimoe on Jun 23, 2008, 05:21 PM
One more look at Celine for BH. You should be thankful no one posted a family picture that includes her really really creepy husband/manager Rene Angelil. Ah hell, why not...




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Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: ycartrob on Jun 23, 2008, 05:26 PM
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Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: upstatestruggler on Jun 23, 2008, 06:28 PM
yo. you people think you got it bad? I can't even make fun of faith hill or john mc-fucking-cain without people getting bitchy. good thing I am an insensitive person with a sense of self-worth or I would have headed for the hills too.  I make the choice to come on and air my opinions- not to inflame anyone, just cause it is my prerogative as a person who pays for internet service, just like everyone else here- and I have enough sense to realize that not everyone is going to agree with them.
besides the time I talked shit about music reviewers- like two years ago, and I stand by that shit- I don't think I have ever personally attacked anyone. I dis concepts and celebrities.
I am not trying to get 'in' with the crowd. I just love the band and the music. they are hard-core individualists and goofballs. like me. not that I know then personally- and prolly will hear some shit about 'how dare I assume that the band are goofballs when I don't know them like other fans know them, blahdity blah'...cripes. what a fucking joke. just like all of those hippier than thou types, where you gotta apologize for combing your damn hair, showering, and having a job. sorrrrrreeeee.
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: ycartrob on Jun 23, 2008, 07:03 PM
Quoteyo. you people think you got it bad? I can't even make fun of faith hill or john mc-fucking-cain without people getting bitchy. good thing I am an insensitive person with a sense of self-worth or I would have headed for the hills too.  I make the choice to come on and air my opinions- not to inflame anyone, just cause it is my prerogative as a person who pays for internet service, just like everyone else here- and I have enough sense to realize that not everyone is going to agree with them.
besides the time I talked shit about music reviewers- like two years ago, and I stand by that shit- I don't think I have ever personally attacked anyone. I dis concepts and celebrities.
I am not trying to get 'in' with the crowd. I just love the band and the music. they are hard-core individualists and goofballs. like me. not that I know then personally- and prolly will hear some shit about 'how dare I assume that the band are goofballs when I don't know them like other fans know them, blahdity blah'...cripes. what a fucking joke. just like all of those hippier than thou types, where you gotta apologize for combing your damn hair, showering, and having a job. sorrrrrreeeee.

thanks for bringing that up, b/c that is one of the things I am drawn to about MMJ, their sensibility to be goofy; be it Jim James showering the crowd with peeps, or having a conductor in a tuxedo perform with them for an entire show, Jim's rants about this and that, them taking our FREE CRACK sign on tour, performing on Conan in Mardi Gras masks and it goes on and on and on...

I agree and that's a big reason I love them so much is b/c they're not these brooding rock stars who are all serious, they just have a good time and work really, really hard at doing it their own way.

thanks!  

and about Faith Hill, did you really feel I got bitchy with you? (I mean, I thought the tampon reference was in bad taste, but I said nothing in retaliation). I live in nashville and people were pretty up in arms about her "freak out" when she did not win that award and I was just setting the record straight. She was just trying to have fun and she got flamed for being misunderstood. That's all. Just her way of being goofy. Sorry if me setting the record straight came across as bitchy (I guess you never know  :-/)
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: upstatestruggler on Jun 23, 2008, 07:30 PM
your bitchiness- which is mild to moderate, btw- is one thing that I personally enjoy about this whole popsicle stand... fyi,otr,omg! I just hate to make statements and then not back them up. like saying, 'you're always lying to me!' and then not being able to come up with one specific example<--pet peeve. it WAS a good example, no?
on a less self-centered note: faith hill needs to know that there are people- other than mr. mcgraw, that is- who defend her honor so gallantly. does she have a forum?
thanks for caring, though. srsly. ignore my sarcasm 'cause I mean that.  I suddenly have this warm and fuzzy feeling. wait, no, that's the booze.
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: upstatestruggler on Jun 23, 2008, 07:32 PM
oh, one more thing: tampons are an integral part of our society. poor taste? perhaps. but necessary all the same.
from now on I will make luna cup references.

done with this for today. you have started my little mind on an all new tangent:

JIM JAMES SHOWERING

k thx bai
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: Coltrane on Jun 23, 2008, 07:36 PM
QuoteWhen the album leaked, this board saw dozens of people register here for the sole purpose of stealing the band's new album. Some of them even had the gall to criticize the work. Obviously, that wore on everyone here and rightfully so.

wow. i gotta stop going to work. i miss all the good shit....who's gonna read this now?? it's on the third page!!

anyway....the above quote is really the biggest thing that should be looked at regarding this ongoing debate.

the leak, and the subsequent jerk-offs who joined for a day, are ultimately to blame here. They fanned the flames of emotion, and subsequently the new folks-- those intent on staying around and really joining the community-- were not privy to the way this board has resolved its internal issues in the past (well, most of them anyway). I've seen some of these new people be contrite and apologetic, which is great, but somehow it feels too little too late; if only because the road to repair was too winding, and too many seniors are gone. Hopefully I'm way wrong about that.

And Mr./Ms Anonymous-- your post is completely invalid in my eyes until you reveal who you are.

just my peace. Nobody really knows me anyway, and people rarely respond to me....but hey.....i'm passionate about this place and just had to chime in.


;)
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: mjkoehler on Jun 23, 2008, 07:43 PM
Quoteyo. you people think you got it bad? I can't even make fun of faith hill
Faith Hill?

JUUUUUUST BREEAAATHE

[size=8]Sorry, couldn't resist[/size]
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: ycartrob on Jun 23, 2008, 07:46 PM
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Quoteyo. you people think you got it bad? I can't even make fun of faith hill
Faith Hill?

JUUUUUUST BREEAAATHE

[size=8]Sorry, couldn't resist[/size]

hey man, how are you feeling today? I hope better.
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: mjkoehler on Jun 23, 2008, 07:50 PM
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Quoteyo. you people think you got it bad? I can't even make fun of faith hill
Faith Hill?

JUUUUUUST BREEAAATHE

[size=8]Sorry, couldn't resist[/size]

hey man, how are you feeling today? I hope better.
Better. Nice bruising and some nice knots now. Nothing I can't live with I guess. No longer peeing blood.

Thanks for asking.
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: getinthevan on Jun 23, 2008, 07:58 PM
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Quoteyo. you people think you got it bad? I can't even make fun of faith hill
Faith Hill?

JUUUUUUST BREEAAATHE

[size=8]Sorry, couldn't resist[/size]

hey man, how are you feeling today? I hope better.
Better. Nice bruising and some nice knots now. Nothing I can't live with I guess. No longer peeing blood.

Thanks for asking.

Glad to hear you're doing better.  Did you end up going to the doctor?
 

Had Coltrane not mentioned something about Mr./Mrs. Anonymous, I would've completely forgotten what this thread was about.
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: mjkoehler on Jun 23, 2008, 08:05 PM
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Quote
Quote
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Quoteyo. you people think you got it bad? I can't even make fun of faith hill
Faith Hill?

JUUUUUUST BREEAAATHE

[size=8]Sorry, couldn't resist[/size]

hey man, how are you feeling today? I hope better.
Better. Nice bruising and some nice knots now. Nothing I can't live with I guess. No longer peeing blood.

Thanks for asking.

Glad to hear you're doing better.  Did you end up going to the doctor?
 

Had Coltrane not mentioned something about Mr./Mrs. Anonymous, I would've completely forgotten what this thread was about.
No Doctor. If it didn't get any better by tomorrow I was going to go. I'll kind of play it by ear.

That's the beauty of this board. This thread has degraded to making fun of Faith Hill and me peeing blood.
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: TheBigChicken on Jun 23, 2008, 08:55 PM
Dude I thought the blood thing was a joke....go to the doctor......shit MJ....I'm calling William Shatner and the 911 Unit as I type....don't mess around with this
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: Coltrane on Jun 24, 2008, 08:41 AM
Yeah, sorry. I always seem to come in way too late.


Peeing blood?? that's nothin!!!!

just walk it off!


:D
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: mjkoehler on Jun 24, 2008, 11:08 AM
QuoteDude I thought the blood thing was a joke....go to the doctor......shit MJ....I'm calling William Shatner and the 911 Unit as I type....don't mess around with this
Sadly no it wasn't a joke. Things are all good now. No more blood, just some really nice bruising and a stiff back. Still a little uncomforable to sit for long periods of time but as Coltrane said above, I'll walk it off.
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: Jenny on Jun 24, 2008, 11:15 AM
can you at least CALL your doctor?  :(
Title: Re: The Recent "Tone" of the boards
Post by: mjkoehler on Jun 24, 2008, 11:17 AM
Quotecan you at least CALL your doctor?  :(
For you Jenny, sure. I'm actually off the rest of the week so I can do it tomorrow morning when I know she's there.