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Title: Mad Men
Post by: pawpaw on Jul 27, 2008, 02:12 PM
Do any of you watch this show? I saw most of the first season last summer, and have caught up with what I missed the past few weeks in anticipation for the season premier tonight. It's about this advertising firm in NYC, set in the early 60s. It's a BIG show, covers a lot of ground...very stylish, and VERY well written. On Sunday at 10PM, on AMC.
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: megalicious on Jul 27, 2008, 04:08 PM
I am so glad season 2 starts tonight. I got hooked on Mad Men last summer.

It's a great show. There are so many different aspects to it. And I LOVE the clothes the women wear!
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: Penny Lane on Jul 27, 2008, 06:13 PM
it's funny to watch everyone smoke so much---it's SO good. especially him:

(http://static.amctv.com/img/originals/madmen/cast/roger_s2_517x307.jpg)
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: megalicious on Jul 27, 2008, 06:21 PM
i kind of have a girl crush on her:
(http://blogs.amctv.com/mad-men/fashion_MadMen102B_0411.jpg%3Cbr%20/%3E)
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: Penny Lane on Jul 27, 2008, 06:27 PM
Quotei kind of have a girl crush on her:
(http://blogs.amctv.com/mad-men/fashion_MadMen102B_0411.jpg%3Cbr%20/%3E)

i agree, meg--those 2 are the best parts of the show
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: megalicious on Jul 27, 2008, 06:30 PM
I wish I had their wardrobe department in my closet. I LOVE the outfits the women wear! So classic and sexy, you know?
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: pawpaw on Jul 27, 2008, 06:41 PM
Quoteit's funny to watch everyone smoke so much---it's SO good. especially him:

(http://static.amctv.com/img/originals/madmen/cast/roger_s2_517x307.jpg)

I know, and they're ALWAYS drinking at work. And I'm not talking a glass of wine, a beer, or even a cocktail. They're drinking deep pours of whiskey, neat. Drinkin' and smokin' all day long!

Oh, and the women are gorgeous...

(http://z.about.com/d/tvdramas/1/7/G/U/MadMen-donbetty.jpg)

(http://z.about.com/d/tvdramas/1/7/F/U/madmen-chrishend.jpg)
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: pawpaw on Jul 27, 2008, 06:53 PM
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Quotei kind of have a girl crush on her:
(http://blogs.amctv.com/mad-men/fashion_MadMen102B_0411.jpg%3Cbr%20/%3E)

i agree, meg--those 2 are the best parts of the show

There are also quite a few direct and indirect references to Ayn Rand...I bring it up because of your signature.
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: red on Jul 27, 2008, 06:57 PM
Quotei kind of have a girl crush on her:
(http://blogs.amctv.com/mad-men/fashion_MadMen102B_0411.jpg%3Cbr%20/%3E)
I'm in love.   :-*
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: mjkoehler on Jul 27, 2008, 08:05 PM
Quotei kind of have a girl crush on her:
(http://blogs.amctv.com/mad-men/fashion_MadMen102B_0411.jpg%3Cbr%20/%3E)
Holy shite! Why am I not watching this show for Her? uhhh wow, I can add her to my redhead obbsession. God grief! Netflix her I come for Season 1!
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: Penny Lane on Jul 28, 2008, 08:39 AM
bbill-yes, that is one of the reasons i love it.

okay, peggy is becoming such a b*tch--i love it.
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: Killgies on Jul 28, 2008, 10:06 AM
Quotei kind of have a girl crush on her:
(http://blogs.amctv.com/mad-men/fashion_MadMen102B_0411.jpg%3Cbr%20/%3E)

Agreed
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: pawpaw on Jul 28, 2008, 12:50 PM
Quotebbill-yes, that is one of the reasons i love it.

okay, peggy is becoming such a b*tch--i love it.

Yeah, she was pretty snippy last night. Damn, the characters (and the possibilities of where they can go) in this show are SO GOOD! I thought the episode last night was a slow burner (most are), but everything felt right by the end. Draper reads a book of poetry that a guy in a bar told him he wouldn't like, and then mails it to an unknown recipient late at night while walking his dog in the final scene. That kind of shit just isn't on tv! Draper is going to crack at some point, some huge, personal crisis of being, and it's going to be glorious to watch.

...and what about that smarmy little weasel Peter Campbell. The character is disgusting, but the actor does a great job of making him that way...
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: pawpaw on Jul 28, 2008, 01:03 PM
I pulled this from the episode summary on the AMC site...

"Later that night he reads Meditations in an Emergency: "Now I am waiting for the catastrophe of my personality to seem beautiful again, and interesting, and modern." He writes, "Made me think of you. -- D" on the title page and walks down the street to mail the book to an unknown recipient."

...that's just too good.
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: Penny Lane on Jul 28, 2008, 01:11 PM
QuoteI pulled this from the episode summary on the AMC site...

"Later that night he reads Meditations in an Emergency: "Now I am waiting for the catastrophe of my personality to seem beautiful again, and interesting, and modern." He writes, "Made me think of you. -- D" on the title page and walks down the street to mail the book to an unknown recipient."

...that's just too good.


do you think betty is sexually frustrated or what? i thought she was going to attack the guy changing the fan belt
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: pawpaw on Jul 28, 2008, 01:22 PM
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QuoteI pulled this from the episode summary on the AMC site...

"Later that night he reads Meditations in an Emergency: "Now I am waiting for the catastrophe of my personality to seem beautiful again, and interesting, and modern." He writes, "Made me think of you. -- D" on the title page and walks down the street to mail the book to an unknown recipient."

...that's just too good.


do you think betty is sexually frustrated or what? i thought she was going to attack the guy changing the fan belt

Yeah, that was kind of a tense little scene. She's going to get into some trouble with that creepy dude at the stables, I think. She's a sad character, but damn she's an angel.
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: TEO on Jul 28, 2008, 09:54 PM
Watched it, tried it, it just aint happenin' for me yet.......
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: pawpaw on Jul 31, 2008, 12:20 PM
QuoteWatched it, tried it, it just aint happenin' for me yet.......

Yeah, the season premier the other night felt slow - I think if it had been my first time watching it I may not have been that into it either. I think I was probably more excited because I'd spent some time with the characters and the stories last season. Give it another shot though - it really is one of the best things on tv deez dayz, imo.
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: Penny Lane on Aug 24, 2008, 11:23 PM
great episode! thoughts?
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: pawpaw on Aug 25, 2008, 11:54 AM
Quotegreat episode! thoughts?

I haven't seen it yet, and almost didn't open this thread...thanks for not spoiling anything. I didn't get home from a wedding until about 2 last night, but I'll probably catch it tonight.

What do you think of the season so far? A lot of focus on Don and Betty, their relationship, their family...and VERY sexual too. Damn, I think it was two episodes ago, but when Don was, ahem, negotiating with Jimmy Barrett's wife outside of the powder room at the restaurant... :o Pretty bold, even for basic cable ;D

I'm lovin' it so far...I say bring back the hippy woman from the Village though!
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: Penny Lane on Aug 25, 2008, 12:56 PM
i won't spoil it but you won't be dissappointed this episode--although i'm a little confused as to how much DD knows about peggy's pregnancy? can't tell if those are flashbacks/dreams or what? i have missed a couple episodes here and there, though...

don and jimmy barrett's wife had some interesting scenes in last night's episode, enjoy-let me know what you think!

Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: pawpaw on Aug 25, 2008, 02:11 PM
Quotei won't spoil it but you won't be dissappointed this episode--although i'm a little confused as to how much DD knows about peggy's pregnancy? can't tell if those are flashbacks/dreams or what? i have missed a couple episodes here and there, though...

don and jimmy barrett's wife had some interesting scenes in last night's episode, enjoy-let me know what you think!


Well, unless last night's episode has Peggy knocked up again, I think what you saw were flashbacks. The first season was set in '60, and though the show hasn't explicitly stated it, season two is set in '62 (I read this in an article, and otherwise it's a matter of recognizing events in the show and establishing the timeline...like I bet that American Airlines crash into Jamaica Bay really happened in '62). They've actually shown Peggy's son a few times - he lives with her mom.

Also, if you have Comcast cable, you can watch previous episodes through On Demand. It's "free".
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: Penny Lane on Aug 25, 2008, 03:11 PM
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Quotei won't spoil it but you won't be dissappointed this episode--although i'm a little confused as to how much DD knows about peggy's pregnancy? can't tell if those are flashbacks/dreams or what? i have missed a couple episodes here and there, though...

don and jimmy barrett's wife had some interesting scenes in last night's episode, enjoy-let me know what you think!


Well, unless last night's episode has Peggy knocked up again, I think what you saw were flashbacks. The first season was set in '60, and though the show hasn't explicitly stated it, season two is set in '62 (I read this in an article, and otherwise it's a matter of recognizing events in the show and establishing the timeline...like I bet that American Airlines crash into Jamaica Bay really happened in '62). They've actually shown Peggy's son a few times - he lives with her mom.

Also, if you have Comcast cable, you can watch previous episodes through On Demand. It's "free".
yeah i've seen where they show her son and presently he lives w/her parents/family upstairs i think (Peggy has an apt in the house separate?) and i know people at the company wondered who the father was---or were suspicious of her weight gain and loss, etc...i just didn't know if don knew about it? that must have been a flashback--there's been a few but it's been confusing. thanks for the info, though. they are showing them all on sat or sun (at least the first 5 from this season)
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: pawpaw on Aug 25, 2008, 04:47 PM
Here's a wikipedia entry on the American Airlines crash: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_1
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: pawpaw on Aug 26, 2008, 01:14 PM
I saw the newest episode last night, and yeah, it was great.

SO, as far as Peggy goes, I remember her sister saying something in a previous episode about her mental health and being in a hospital...I think that her (ultra-religious/traditional) family had her committed to find out what was going on. Remember, the pregnancy was a suprise even to Peggy, who didn't know until she was about to go into labor (I've heard of this happening, but, HOW THE HELL DOES THAT HAPPEN?!?!). And in the newest episode, in one of the flashbacks, the doctor mentions her being on drugs to help her want to talk.

I'm not sure if Draper knows about the baby, but I'm not sure if that matters. He knows she had been in the hospital for a serious "condition", that she wanted to keep secret (the scene in the hospital with the two of them was AWESOME). He called Peggy to bail him out of the drunk tank (.15 legal limit, ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!) because, well, basically, she owed him in the secret keeping department. I thought this one was Peggy's episode, showing a couple of the encounters that have and will shape her.

Jimmy Barretts wife's smoker voice is so damn sexy to me, for some reason.

DAMN, that was a great episode, and what a great fucking show. Don and Peggy are just such great mysteries, both at different stages of (re)creating themselves.  
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: Penny Lane on Aug 26, 2008, 01:55 PM
i was hoping you'd watch it so i could spill--the best scene was at the end where betty tells don he can't have any salt (his heart condition?)...that's her subtle way of saying...'2 can play this game don draper' i loved it cuz the camera pauses on him for a few extra seconds and he has an 'i stepped in dog sh*t' look on his face.

i also love the scene where the doctor lit up a cigarette...

yes, this was peggy's episode...she is such a survivor. i also liked the whole speech jimmy's wife gave her "you're not a man, don't try to be one"

i definitely missed an episode this season about the mental condition stuff...i'll have to catch up!
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: capt. scotty on Aug 29, 2008, 12:46 AM
Ive heard too much good buzz about this show not to start watchin it

Im gonna have to watch the first couple seasons of Dexter first since the new season of that starts in a month and Ive wanted to start watchin that show for awhile

Mad Men is #2 on the list
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: Penny Lane on Sep 08, 2008, 01:18 PM
bbill--did you watch?!! no spoilers i promise!
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: pawpaw on Sep 08, 2008, 01:43 PM
Quotebbill--did you watch?!! no spoilers i promise!

;D No penny, I haven't seen it yet. Thanks for your restraint though...I can tell you want to talk about it, so it must've been a good one!

Nah, I usually wait until Monday night to watch them (old man bbill can't stay up till 11 to finish a show  ;D), but I may not even get to it tonight, 'cause I'm going to be watching the Raiders whip the fuckin' Broncs up and down the field  :D

I'll say this though, Draper having a crisis of conscience while shaving at the end of the last episode was about as good a hook as I've ever seen....yeah, I'm pretty excited to see what happens next.

It's pretty funny how this is essentially a two person thread, like the Supergrass thread that db and mj kept alive for so long ;D
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: Penny Lane on Sep 08, 2008, 02:00 PM
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Quotebbill--did you watch?!! no spoilers i promise!

;D No penny, I haven't seen it yet. Thanks for your restraint though...I can tell you want to talk about it, so it must've been a good one!

Nah, I usually wait until Monday night to watch them (old man bbill can't stay up till 11 to finish a show  ;D), but I may not even get to it tonight, 'cause I'm going to be watching the Raiders whip the fuckin' Broncs up and down the field  :D

I'll say this though, Draper having a crisis of conscience while shaving at the end of the last episode was about as good a hook as I've ever seen....yeah, I'm pretty excited to see what happens next.

It's pretty funny how this is essentially a two person thread, like the Supergrass thread that db and mj kept alive for so long ;D

well i'm hoping TEO keeps w/it....it's all about the don draper moral crisis though, isn't it? i missed the first 20 min so i need to catch that at some point.
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: vespachick on Sep 08, 2008, 02:12 PM
I just watched this for the first time last weekend when they were having a marathon.  I totally love it!  My parents raced out and bought season one on DVD.  The packaging is totally great: it looks like a giant Zippo!  Sweet.  I may go buy it when I get the next Border's coupon. 8-)
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: Penny Lane on Sep 08, 2008, 02:32 PM
QuoteI just watched this for the first time last weekend when they were having a marathon.  I totally love it!  My parents raced out and bought season one on DVD.  The packaging is totally great: it looks like a giant Zippo!  Sweet.  I may go buy it when I get the next Border's coupon. 8-)


sweet, amy!! it's the only show i watch on a regular basis---it's a fascinating character study--basically less is more. plus john slattery is just SO cool.
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: pawpaw on Sep 09, 2008, 11:08 AM
I watched the newest episode last night (I could only take so much of the Raiders)- yeah, it was a good one. First of all, I don't know if I've ever watched a show that I've been so impressed with both the writing AND acting. All the actors are just SO GOOD!

Salvatore, I'm pretty sure that there's never been any mention of him being married, but there she was, and it just adds a whole new complexity to his character. And Cosgrove unveiled a whole hidden (to us, the viewers anyway) side to his personality with his writing and insight into the Rothko piece.

One of the best scenes was when Draper got called into Cooper's office. After Sterling left the room, Don got the invitation to join the "people who get to decide what will happen in our world". And the whole party at the end, the ride home after...

The thing about this show, it's not built to attract the casual observer. But to get into the characters, who've all been created so thoughtfully, it really is exciting to see where they go, at that time, in that city, in that business.

So, what did you think Penny?
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: Penny Lane on Sep 09, 2008, 11:28 AM
QuoteI watched the newest episode last night (I could only take so much of the Raiders)- yeah, it was a good one. First of all, I don't know if I've ever watched a show that I've been so impressed with both the writing AND acting. All the actors are just SO GOOD!

Salvatore, I'm pretty sure that there's never been any mention of him being married, but there she was, and it just adds a whole new complexity to his character. And Cosgrove unveiled a whole hidden (to us, the viewers anyway) side to his personality with his writing and insight into the Rothko piece.

One of the best scenes was when Draper got called into Cooper's office. After Sterling left the room, Don got the invitation to join the "people who get to decide what will happen in our world". And the whole party at the end, the ride home after...

The thing about this show, it's not built to attract the casual observer. But to get into the characters, who've all been created so thoughtfully, it really is exciting to see where they go, at that time, in that city, in that business.

So, what did you think Penny?

i agree--do you notice the way the director holds the camera on for WAY too long--it's so uncomfortable.  i didn't know salvatore was married either! what an awkward dinner--btw, what kind of PIE was that??? pineapple and something? it's the little details that i find fascinating. i also love jimmy barretts exchanges w/Betty and Don. Poor guy--(you see the whole short, unpopular kid becomes funny to have a voice) next week it looks like it's all about Peggy!
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: Penny Lane on Sep 09, 2008, 11:39 AM
i looked that up--all i found was that salvatore got married in season 2

also, i love joan's exchange w/the sec (forget her name) who questioned her...you DON'T mess w/her
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: Elspeth on Sep 15, 2008, 12:26 AM
Oh cool! I have people to talk to Mad Men about! Did anyone see tonight's episode? Anyone? I felt so bad for Joan...
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: pawpaw on Sep 15, 2008, 11:22 PM
QuoteOh cool! I have people to talk to Mad Men about! Did anyone see tonight's episode? Anyone? I felt so bad for Joan...

:) Cool, another fan of the show. I haven't seen the new one yet (been at work for almost 24 HOURS THE PAST TWO F***IN DAYS), and I'm not sure if Penny has surfaced since SC trounced her Buckeyes. Try not to give up too many surprises  ;)

I'll lecha know when I see it!
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: Penny Lane on Sep 16, 2008, 01:52 AM
you always have to catch bbill on tuesdays-----so good last night----you are going to be a little shocked.
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: pawpaw on Sep 16, 2008, 12:32 PM
Quoteyou always have to catch bbill on tuesdays-----so good last night----you are going to be a little shocked.

I did watch it last night, but I'm charging hard at work and can't really get into it as I'd like. The women had it rough though (that's one of the major themes of the show, really).
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: Penny Lane on Sep 16, 2008, 01:54 PM
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Quoteyou always have to catch bbill on tuesdays-----so good last night----you are going to be a little shocked.

I did watch it last night, but I'm charging hard at work and can't really get into it as I'd like. The women had it rough though (that's one of the major themes of the show, really).

yeah that was the little montage they did at the end---i didn't get what happens w/joan in the next episode (from watching the preview) that priest looks so evil, too---i'm glad that peggy stood up to him
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: pawpaw on Sep 16, 2008, 03:42 PM
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Quoteyou always have to catch bbill on tuesdays-----so good last night----you are going to be a little shocked.

I did watch it last night, but I'm charging hard at work and can't really get into it as I'd like. The women had it rough though (that's one of the major themes of the show, really).

yeah that was the little montage they did at the end---i didn't get what happens w/joan in the next episode (from watching the preview) that priest looks so evil, too---i'm glad that peggy stood up to him

The actor who plays the priest is Tom Hanks' son! ;D
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: Elspeth on Sep 16, 2008, 03:56 PM
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Quoteyou always have to catch bbill on tuesdays-----so good last night----you are going to be a little shocked.

I did watch it last night, but I'm charging hard at work and can't really get into it as I'd like. The women had it rough though (that's one of the major themes of the show, really).

yeah that was the little montage they did at the end---i didn't get what happens w/joan in the next episode (from watching the preview) that priest looks so evil, too---i'm glad that peggy stood up to him

The actor who plays the priest is Tom Hanks' son! ;D

Yeah! Colin Hanks. I really liked him in Orange County. Anyone else remember that movie?

We're going to have to wait two weeks for the next new episode because the Emmys are on next Sunday. Damn! Well not so damn, I have four shows I keep up with on Sundays (True Blood, Entourage, Skins (BBC America), and Mad Men). It'll be a nice break.
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: Elspeth on Sep 19, 2008, 11:03 AM
Jon Hamm (Don Draper) is going to host SNL on October 25th. Woot!
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: Penny Lane on Sep 19, 2008, 11:35 AM
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Quoteyou always have to catch bbill on tuesdays-----so good last night----you are going to be a little shocked.

I did watch it last night, but I'm charging hard at work and can't really get into it as I'd like. The women had it rough though (that's one of the major themes of the show, really).

yeah that was the little montage they did at the end---i didn't get what happens w/joan in the next episode (from watching the preview) that priest looks so evil, too---i'm glad that peggy stood up to him

The actor who plays the priest is Tom Hanks' son! ;D
OHHHH i knew i'd seen him before!
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: Penny Lane on Sep 19, 2008, 11:36 AM
QuoteJon Hamm (Don Draper) is going to host SNL on October 25th. Woot!


that's awesome---he gets hotter w/every show--slattery has moved to #2 position
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: Penny Lane on Oct 27, 2008, 08:55 AM
what did people think of the season finale? i loved it. any predictions for next season? bbill--should we wait till tomorrow to discuss!!!??
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: megalicious on Oct 27, 2008, 09:17 AM
Quotewhat did people think of the season finale? i loved it. any predictions for next season? bbill--should we wait till tomorrow to discuss!!!??

i missed it! please pm me and tell me what happened, b/c it won't be up on hulu until a week from today.

:'(
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: pawpaw on Oct 27, 2008, 11:28 AM
Yeah, please wait!!! I'll watch it tonight (thanks for asking  :))

Actually, the previous two episodes have been AWESOME!!!

Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: Penny Lane on Oct 27, 2008, 11:46 AM
meg i PMd you the general stuff but i would seriously wait to watch it--it's SOOOOO good. they left open so many cool stories for next season :-) bbill--tomorrow we'll talk!
Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: pawpaw on Oct 28, 2008, 11:37 AM
I LOVE THIS SHOW. Everything is outstanding - the acting, the writing, the direction and production. The last 3 big scenes from the season finale were just so intriguing, so gripping! First, the scene in the board room with Duck and Don coming to a stand-off. THEN, the scene in Pete's office where Peggy tells him that she had his baby...and THEN the scene in the Draper kitchen (mostly silent) where Betty tells Don that she's pregnant. The acting in all of these was just SOOOO GOOOOOOOD!

So, what next? There was a 2 year gap between seasons 1 and 2, so if season 3 puts us 2 years further down the road....who knows?!?! I think Don is going to stay at Sterling Cooper, or at least most of the characters will still be in the show....there are too many great ones that are just beginning to bloom!!! It's hard to say if Don can play the role of the good husband...his trip to California was a major turning point...he came back a humbled man, wanting to make his marriage work.

...I've got to get some work done, but I'll chime in later today. What do you think about everything Penny???

Title: Re: Mad Men
Post by: Penny Lane on Oct 28, 2008, 12:34 PM
the scene w/peggy and pete took the cake--and it made him really more likeable (these last few episodes, too) i couldn't believe she told him! i can see him pursuing them as a family next season. is peggy supposed to represent dominque francon at all? i can see it a little bit.

Betty's bar scene?? I kind of saw that coming, though--but it's good she did it w/a random person. she's smart. the last scene w/them is so telling..there has been a power shift in the relationship--i love it.

the stand off---i am torn..part of me thinks because don has no non-comp clause-that he'll leave---but you could tell they wanted to rethink their choice of pres--

i wish they would have incorporated joan more into the last few episodes but the whole merger thing is such a good premise...i also like the backdrop with the ladies discussing the bomb shelters at the salon.

yes this is the best show on tv right now--so subtle---it's haunting