I know this seems weird on MMJ's forum but I believe they and their fans have magical powers over the universe and I just might find someone who's going through the same thing
For the past 2 years I have experienced constant dizziness, disorientation, lethargy, light sensitivity, jaw tightness (bottom left), tinnitus (right ear), and occasional numbness in both hands. No headaches or migraines though.
I have been to general practitioner's, neurologists, and ENT's and all testing have come back fine. (sinus xrays, bloodwork, etc.)
The dizziness and disorientation are truely debilitating and have caused much hardship for me. I was curious as to if anyone on here have noticed these symptoms in TMJ. This is basically my last resort as to locating what is causing my horrible condition.
I am 26 years old....Male...in otherwise good health and mental health history.
Thank you in advance for any help!
Robert
Have you been tested for diabetes? Also, have you been to a dietician? How about being tested for STDs like gonorrhea?
....have tried all 3 and all came back fine
F'n crazyness
I appreciate the help
How about iron deficiencies?
Have you been to other specialists? How about trying a naturopath? GP's generally won't recommend them being the close-minded stubborn bunch they often are.
Yeah all the bloodwork (full blood panel) came back a-ok....I've tried a Chiropractor which felt really good but no improvement
Don't let those fake doctors crack your neck, unless they did and that's why you are in this mess in the first place.
They didn't cause it....I just got to the point where I would attempt anything to find some kind of relief
My mom has suffered severe dizziness and disorientation along with nerve pain for about four years now. She got the runaround from her doctors and was told her problem was everything from beginning stages of multiple sclerosis to vertigo to just her imagination. She just recently was diagnosed with meniere's disease as a cause of the dizziness, and has yet to be diagnosed with anything for the nerve pain. I would suggest you do your own research and be demanding when it comes to your medical care. Depending on what type of medical coverage you have you might have to be very vocal about the kind of testing you want done. Your symptoms might not be from one cause either. I know how difficult it can be to struggle to find answers. Good luck to you.
have you tried any holistic stuff?
thats always worth trying. :/
QuoteMy mom has suffered severe dizziness and disorientation along with nerve pain for about four years now. She got the runaround from her doctors and was told her problem was everything from beginning stages of multiple sclerosis to vertigo to just her imagination. She just recently was diagnosed with meniere's disease as a cause of the dizziness, and has yet to be diagnosed with anything for the nerve pain. I would suggest you do your own research and be demanding when it comes to your medical care. Depending on what type of medical coverage you have you might have to be very vocal about the kind of testing you want done. Your symptoms might not be from one cause either. I know how difficult it can be to struggle to find answers. Good luck to you.
I have been relentlessy researching potential causes and I once thought both MS and Meniere's could be possible but MRI's and the ENT stated they were 'unlikely'. Thanks for the info and I wish the best to your Mom as well!
Quotehave you tried any holistic stuff?
thats always worth trying. :/
At this point anything's worth trying!
Have you tried a naturopath? They are different than holistic medicine.
QuoteHave you tried a naturopath? They are different than holistic medicine.
What do they do?
My Brother suffered from some strange virus that lasted a few years. After an exhausted search of doctors and research he went to the Mayo Clinic where the told him it was a virus and they could only treat his simpoms until the virus ran it's course. Some of his symptoms were constant ringging in the ears, lethargy (highly unlike him), dizzyness,disorientation, and he blacked/passed once, the numbness might have been a problem too I can't remember now.
I'm not suggesting this is what you have, just saying it could be a virus or anything the medical field can't define as of yet. The doctors my brother saw didn't have a lot of answers for him.
I'm sure you've done your research, I'd keep at it.
Do you use atrificial sweetners? just curious
QuoteQuoteHave you tried a naturopath? They are different than holistic medicine.
What do they do?
This is a Canadian site, but the US will have something similar. BTW, my wife went to a naturopath and feels great - she had to alter her diet and take suppliments prescribed by her naturopath doctor. I don't know if you'll be covered in the US, but my wife had partial coverage for her supplimental medicine.
http://www.cand.ca/index.php?id=aboutnd&L=0
QuoteMy Brother suffered from some strange virus that lasted a few years. After an exhausted search of doctors and research he went to the Mayo Clinic where the told him it was a virus and they could only treat his simpoms until the virus ran it's course. Some of his symptoms were constant ringging in the ears, lethargy (highly unlike him), dizzyness,disorientation, and he blacked/passed once, the numbness might have been a problem too I can't remember now.
I'm not suggesting this is what you have, just saying it could be a virus or anything the medical field can't define as of yet. The doctors my brother saw didn't have a lot of answers for him.
I'm sure you've done your research, I'd keep at it.
Do you use atrificial sweetners? just curious
Wow! A virus that lasts a few years? That's insane!..I hope he's doing good now cause I can really feel his pain.....but no artificial sweeteners...I've literally tried to rule out everything I could think of. Maybe/hopefully it will pass....thank you for the input
QuoteQuoteQuoteHave you tried a naturopath? They are different than holistic medicine.
What do they do?
This is a Canadian site, but the US will have something similar. BTW, my wife went to a naturopath and feels great - she had to alter her diet and take suppliments prescribed by her naturopath doctor. I don't know if you'll be covered in the US, but my wife had partial coverage for her supplimental medicine.
http://www.cand.ca/index.php?id=aboutnd&L=0
Cool...I will definately check into that...I appreciate that
QuoteQuoteMy Brother suffered from some strange virus that lasted a few years. After an exhausted search of doctors and research he went to the Mayo Clinic where the told him it was a virus and they could only treat his simpoms until the virus ran it's course. Some of his symptoms were constant ringging in the ears, lethargy (highly unlike him), dizzyness,disorientation, and he blacked/passed once, the numbness might have been a problem too I can't remember now.
I'm not suggesting this is what you have, just saying it could be a virus or anything the medical field can't define as of yet. The doctors my brother saw didn't have a lot of answers for him.
I'm sure you've done your research, I'd keep at it.
Do you use atrificial sweetners? just curious
Wow! A virus that lasts a few years? That's insane!..I hope he's doing good now cause I can really feel his pain.....but no artificial sweeteners...I've literally tried to rule out everything I could think of. Maybe/hopefully it will pass....thank you for the input
I sent my brother an email asking for more details about his virus along with a copy of your post. It really does sound similar to me but I don't want to get ahead of myself here. I'll let you know what he say's. He's sickeningly intellegent so I know he'll have some more indepth/accurate answers than I could provide.
Man, this really sounds very similar to what my mother experienced 25 years ago - after a year or so she was finally diagnosed with MS. I'd see a specialist, allthough it sounds like you may have been down this road.
Hey now, lets not all diagnose this poor fellow with MS etc... We aren't doctors and it's not fair to get someone worried even more than he already is (if you are a he?). Just get more tests done, go to a bigger city with better specialists. I hope your American medical system and health insurance won't fail you.
Yeah I'm not really the hypochondriac type so no worries there..I was just looking for any input into similar situations or experiences..just to point me into some other directions that I haven't already looked..that's all. I really do thank those of you for your help and consideration. I've had more replies and help through this forum than on any of the health forums and websites!
my cousin has been seriously sick for the past year and half, maybe two years and they couldn't figure it out at first. they initially thought it was just mono or something. he'd get numbness in his arms and different places. I forget his other symptoms. they removed his gallbladder and all this crazy shit and he was still sick, he's basically confined to his room most of the time now. I asked my dad what the name was but he couldn't remember. it's something that athletes get and blood clots in different parts of their body causing the numbness. they couldn't figure it out for so long because there are only 3 doctors in the US who are specialists. one is in ohio. sorry I can't remember what it was called. not really much help. hope you get it figured out.
haven't read all the posts in this, but you might be anemic.
have you had mono? it might be a post-viral idiopathic thing. it's funny, i'm experiencing the same thing. try getting a lot of sodium.
i have tmj, too. just odn't chew gum or over exert your jaw, it comes in waves for me.
you might be orthostatic... you might want to get your kidneys checked, too. mine aren't abosrbing sodium at the moment... i've been perscribed gatorade, cup-o-soup and also some pill i have to take every three hours.
good luck, seriously. being sick sucks.
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i have tmj, too. just odn't chew gum or over exert your jaw, it comes in waves for me.
I also have TMJ. I remember at first they said that caffeine can affect it as well. Sometimes my jaw starts to hurt and I'll get splitting headaches. I also have problems when atmospheric pressure changes drastically (weather fronts, large storms, etc). Luckily the last few days we've had massive storms and I've been fine.
Mygeetah - I hope something someone has said helps, even in the slightest.
QuoteYeah all the bloodwork (full blood panel) came back a-ok....I've tried a Chiropractor which felt really good but no improvement
Well, some of those problems I think can definitely be corrected by a chiropractor. Your numbness (especially), tinnitus, and possible TMJ are illnesses that chiropractors have consistently helped. Chiropractors, through manipulating and removing subluxations of the spine, make your nervous system function a full capacity. Your nervous system, which is basically the Fed Ex for your brain, receives sensation messages from sensory nerves and delivers them to your brain, which your motor or movement nerves then send the brains message to your muscles and internal organs. Those problems I just listed clearly deal with the sensory portion of your autonomic nervous system, or involuntary motor system. Which is different from the voluntary motor system which would be nerves that allow you to move your arms and legs and such.
Im only in my 1st trimester of chiropractic school, so outside of that its hard for me to elaborate on what you said where the main problems - dizziness and disorientation.
How often did you visit this chirpractor? For the conditions you're listing, I would recommend 3 visits a week for probably 2 months and see if your debilitating condition diminishes somewhat and if your spine seems to be reacting favorably to the adjustments and becoming aligned normally. Based on the results of the bloodwork and lack of help from MD's, I sincerely recommend you see a chiropractor 3 times a week for a month or 2 and see if you start to feel better and your ailments lessen
QuoteDon't let those fake doctors crack your neck, unless they did and that's why you are in this mess in the first place.
Jaimoe, I enjoy and respect your hockey insight, but this quote deserves a big FUCK YOU
Not that its all your fault, because you see chiropractors as 'neck crackers' which is not the case. Aside from the fact we take as many, if not more in some instances, hours of classes as medical doctors, chiropractic care deals more with helping your body so you dont have to go to a MD. As I just said, your nervous system is the system that pretty much controls your body and what everything internally is doing. If your spine is misaligned in various places, it impacts those nerves that are exiting that vertabrae, whether it be to your hamstrings, shoulder muscles, or liver. If these nerves cant relay the messages the brain wants them to send, that leads to many complications, including pain, restriced movement, and possibly disease.
My dads an MD, and MD's are without a doubt a necessity, but holistic medicine, especially chiropractors, in combination with MD's, is the best way to monitor&maintain health, as well as to prevent acquiring a disease. Its even being researched right now how chiropractic care helps lower your blood pressure. So would you rather take some BP medication every day, or see a chiropractor once a week or something? Going to a MD when youre sick or in pain only occurs when you get to that point, visiting a chiropractor helps prevent you from getting to that point by allowing, among many things, your immune system to function at its full capacity
I made the "fake doctors" crack more tongue and cheek a la George Costanza more than anything. After having a severe case of sciatica two years ago (I had it for five months), I went to a progressive chiropractor that works more with muscle manipulation and acupuncture. After around eight sessions I was cured. I know chiropractic medicine is invaluable, but it can be controversial, like the aforementioned neck-cracking. My family friend lost years of his memory due to a chiropractic neck-crack. This is not an isolated case and you know it isn't. I know of other chiropractors that manipulate babies. I have a problem with this. If you don't, then fuck you too buddy.
Ive absolutely never heard of someone losing memory from an adjustment. Its definitely a skill and you need to know youre doing, and neck (cervical) adjustments are the most intensive as far as knowing what youre doing, but ive never heard of a memory problem due to an adjustment - was this publicized at all?
Secondly, I have no problems with adjusting babies. Adjusting babies is different than a normal adjustment - force is minimalized and unnecesary bc muscle development in babies is obviously minimal (and muscles make adjustments, or adjustments holding, difficult typically). Neck adjustments, where a typical adult or child would have their head twisted, are not done on babies.
It really all depends on how the birth goes, but difficult and even normal births put stress on the baby. Theyre being pulled out of the birth canal by the head and neck - this causes stress on the spine and spinal cord. These days, many pregnant mothers get chiropractoc care not only to assuage this but to help with nutrients being supplied to the baby, as well as to support normal development. C-section is really the best way to go because it puts less stress on the baby's spine compared to normal birth that I described(not to mention allows for a quick birth as opposed to a 10 hour labor), but as I just said and think backed up, adjusting babies is not out of line by any means
Im really interested to hear more about this memory loss though. Ive heard of stroke complaints, but never memory loss
C-section is not the best way to birth babies. Vaginal births squeeze the amniotic fluid out of the babies lungs. C-sections are not that safe for women either. Unless I trusted my pediatrician, I'd never let my baby go to a chiropractor. You know working on babies is not an easy thing due to fragile bones and chances of nerve damage.
I really can't believe you've never heard of the chance of memory loss and other more severe problems from neck manipulation: http://www.chirobase.org/15News/neurol.html
BTW Capt. Heady, if you want me to find out more about my family friend regarding his memory loss, I'll try to contact him soon. He still made out ok since the incident; he's a math professor at Penn State.
Wow, thats kind of eerily full circle because I graduated from Penn State in 2007..I just opened that link you posted and will read
Did you take math? My friend's name at Penn State is Professor Fabbri and he organizes some pick-up hockey at the school - and even some good old fashioned Canadian road hockey.
No, didnt play hockey and dont recognize the name
I read the article you posted and honestly, its hard for me to register it as proven fact. I may be wrong, but Im pretty sure Canadian insurance doesnt include chiropractic care at all. Not to mention, that 'article' even has grammatical errors - I dont see those in medically peer-reviewed articles. Articles like that are what make a random web browser wary when they probably shouldnt be bc its a biased article/web page. Ive even listened to renowned US chiro's talk about the state of chiro care in Canada and they talk about how basically it goes with their acknowledgement that its not needed. So basically, Canada blows it off as beneficial care for one's health.
Anyone can post articles or make web pages on the net, and that page reminds me pretty much of just that. There is absolutely no science or research that backs that page up at all.
Care in the US has gotten to the point, even in these economic states, that chiropractic care is covered to a degree by insurance. There is the chance that problems may occur from an adjustment, but malpractice cases in chiropractic are basically non-existent compared to medical doctors. That in itself almost tells the story
Government chiropractic medical coverage was dropped in 2004 in Canada, but most businesses offer benefits that cover extended health care and provincial governments run other extended health care plans. Anyway, this may not make sense to you, but Canadians aren't big on malpractice suits and suing compared to our US cousins. It's just the way it is here. I rarely hear of malpractice cases in Canada in the news, medical and/or chiropractic related.
But back to Mygeetah, I hope he gets better ASAP.
The malpractice statement wasnt to single out Canada. Actually, I meant it more towards the US. I realize more ppl see MD's than Chiro's, but the malpractice frequency really speaks for itself
and agreed, I hope Mygeetah gets better. Its only been a few hours since my original post, so Im interested in his response to that first post way back when where I wondered how much chiro care he actually received
I'm actually concerned if he did indeed see a registerd dietician and not a nutritionist. Also, local drinking water and parasites from traveling to different countries can cause symptoms that he is experiencing. My wife had a virus for two years after our trip to Venezuela four years ago.
I've been through a similar situation. It was around October 2003 when it started. I had the worst flu of my life around that time. Around 2 weeks later I started getting bright red blotches around my eyes after showering, no other symptoms. Then 2 weeks later horrible stomach pain. Not sharp, just like constant indigestion. Then headaches, blurry vision at times, skin abnormalities (I had like 50 neurofibromas on my forearm, google them, they're gross). Then blood in the stool (red, not black). Also ringing in the ears, nerve "sensations", etc, etc. Basically they (the symptoms) were really bad and really bothered me for about 6 months. After that, the stomach pain pretty much went away. The skin lesions lasted about a year, then mysteriously vanished, other than a few here and there that come and go. I still have some symptoms but have learned to just deal with them as best I can. I have already wasted far too much of my life worrying about these problems. I have been put on anti-depressants (cymbalta), but decided to quit taking them after 2-3 months. They didn't seem to help that much and had some unpleasant side effects. If any symptom changes or gets worse, sure I'll see the doctor. But until then I'm just not going to worry anymore. Just wanted to share my story so you know you're not alone. The best advice I can give you is not to let it control your life.
i would do anything other than see a chiropractor---maybe change your diet completely to see if that makes a difference? i've heard accupuncture helps, also.
good luck to you ;-( i hope you figure it out.
QuoteHey now, lets not all diagnose this poor fellow with MS etc... We aren't doctors and it's not fair to get someone worried even more than he already is (if you are a he?). Just get more tests done, go to a bigger city with better specialists. I hope your American medical system and health insurance won't fail you.
No diagnosis made. Our friend in here posted looking for some help and his story sounded very similar to what my mother experienced - I related the story and I think that was the purpose of the original post; you know, to get some ideas.
Don't be so prickly, it's not our fault that God planted you north of the border. Oh Florida, my home and native land..........
I really don't think I warranted a jab. We are all trying to help this poor fellow out and he never mentioned what insurance he has or if he even has insurance. As for God planting me in the north, well, I'm agnostic but hope there is a god so I can one day shake his or her hand for "planting" me here.
i really don't want to get in the middle of this, but nobody did anything wrong. we're all trying to help and our intentions are all right... and i mean jaimoe's right, we shouldn't just go saying you have this and that 'cos who knows!? that can get scary and iknow if it was me, a raging hypochondriac, i would diagnose myself with everything from MS to mono to kidney failure. granted we're allowed to suggest. anyway, whatever. i'm just sayin'! no reason to jab at each other
http://www.mymorningjacket.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1209051761/15#15
feel better, mygeetah.
MS is a weird and bumby road; my mother lived with it for close to 30 years before it had any profound impact on her, but when it came it came and it's been a very sad last few years. I would never suggest that I have any sort of qualification to diagnose anyone with anything and I would never try to scare anyone. Just sounded similar, thats all. Get some help and get better.
I can't help taking swipes at Canada - forgive me.
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I can't help taking swipes at Canada - forgive me.
Why? I realize that Florida is over-run with Snowbirds - and you can keep them - but why the swipes? It's not as if you know much about the Great White North anyway - few Americans really do or care to for that matter. I've hardly been critical of the US, although I do think you need national medicare.
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I can't help taking swipes at Canada - forgive me.
Why? I realize that Florida is over-run with Snowbirds - and you can keep them - but why the swipes? It's not as if you know much about the Great White North anyway - few Americans really do or care to for that matter. I've hardly been critical of the US, although I do think you need national medicare.
I care. I absolutely love your country! Some day, in the future, I hope to live there.
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I can't help taking swipes at Canada - forgive me.
Why? I realize that Florida is over-run with Snowbirds - and you can keep them - but why the swipes? It's not as if you know much about the Great White North anyway - few Americans really do or care to for that matter. I've hardly been critical of the US, although I do think you need national medicare.
I care. I absolutely love your country! Some day, in the future, I hope to live there.
Where do you want to live? West coast, the Praries, the Maritime Provinces, Ontario, Quebec... or are you a Yukon, Northwest Territory kind of gal?
Probably Ontario, as this is the province that I have traveled to the most, although I have been to Quebec a few times. Someday I would like to take the train out West. I prefer the east coast of the U.S. so I am speculating that the same may be true with Canada (but really don't know since I have not been West of Windsor). Next year I will travel to Nova Scotia and I am thinking after that I will have a better idea as to a location. I do like Kingston for a small city atmosphere but love Toronto and Montreal as well.
In which province do you live?
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Probably Ontario, as this is the province that I have traveled to the most, although I have been to Quebec a few times. Someday I would like to take the train out West. I prefer the east coast of the U.S. so I am speculating that the same may be true with Canada (but really don't know since I have not been West of Windsor). Next year I will travel to Nova Scotia and I am thinking after that I will have a better idea as to a location. I do like Kingston for a small city atmosphere but love Toronto and Montreal as well. Where do you live?
I live in Riverdale, a neighbourhood in Toronto's east-core, commonly known as The Danforth (which is our massive Greektown). You'd like it here where I live for sure. It's extremely vibrant, although the house prices are high (as they are throughout the city).
BTW, I am a born and raised proud Kingstonian. I love my historic hometown, former capital of Canada and birthplace of hockey. I graduated from Queen's University too before I headed to Toronto for a broadcasting degree at Ryerson.
The Maritime provinces are beautiful. If you can find work in Newfoundland or Halifax, consider moving there. When you go to Nova Scotia, you HAVE TO travel the Cabot Trail on Nova Scotia's Cape Breton Island. It's about as beautiful part of North America as it gets.
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I can't help taking swipes at Canada - forgive me.
Why? I realize that Florida is over-run with Snowbirds - and you can keep them - but why the swipes? It's not as if you know much about the Great White North anyway - few Americans really do or care to for that matter. I've hardly been critical of the US, although I do think you need national medicare.
I live in the Canadian Province of Florida. I have many Canadian friends and we have great fun making fun of each other (best Canadian nickname for Americans - Upper Mexicans; hold on, I love Mexico and Mexicans too - this "be polite" thing is getting hard allready).
I actually know a good bit about your fair country and have been to most of the Provinces save P.E.I. and the prarie Provinces; hell, I've even been to the Yukon territory. My undergrad degree is in international studies with a specialty in Inter-American relations and revolution (I wanted to be in the foreign service).
I think that you may be generally right that most Americans don't know much about Canada and that most Americans don't care. The rest of the world thinks that they know everything about America and Americans because of our ability to export our culture like no other place in the world - and most of the rest of the world is wrong.
Wow, this is off topic. I promise that we'll give the Stanley Cup back one day.
Although Canadians know the most about America and American ways than all the world's countries combined. I'd even wager that some Canadians know more about your diverse country than many Americans do. As a Canadian, I find this fact sad and infuriating. Oh yeah, Florida is an easy target too ya know.
Fuck the Stanley Cup, let's talk baseball... although my Jays are soooo frustrating to watch.
Ignorance is a universal sensation not unique to the USA. My fine state is the punchline to many a joke, but I don't hate it as much as some. I do hate 8 month summers though. I love talking baseball for the first time in 10 years - I'm an original Rays fan. I don't get the Jays, should be better with that staff, but the East is ugly hard.
QuoteWe only care about countries we invade, Oh wait .... no ... we still don't care. If you guys have oil up there I would keep it a secret from Bush ;).
Oil? We have lots and we are now a go-to oil country. Just google oil in Alberta or oil in Atlantic Canada. Bush knows about are oil since we export it to the US. He also knows about Canada's oil reserves in the Arctic too, hence the US nose in our Northwest Passage - fuck the international waters bullshit.
QuoteI love talking baseball for the first time in 10 years - I'm an original Rays fan. I don't get the Jays, should be better with that staff, but the East is ugly hard.
No one can understand why the Jays can't hit with runners in scoring position. They rank 22nd, but are among the top in every pitching category. Hell, Halladay has more complete games than the entire Major League staffs combined. If he had run support, he'd be the Allstar starter. He'll be there at the end of the year Cy Young wise.
I like the Devil Rays. I've seen them play many times live. I'm going to see them in July when they play the Jays.
Mygeetah check your pm
Just an update to all of you who offered your insight and compassion:
I had an MRI last week and it showed I have an inflamed blood vessel on my 7th cranial nerve (Cerebral Vasculitus) causing the dizziness, head pressure, fatigue, etc.
SOOOO....corticosteroids and anti-inflammatories are the first line of action and if that doesn't alleviate it then the much anticipated brain-surgery would be next.
I just want to thank you all again for your empathy and actually caring and offering your support. It really did wonders for my morale and outlook! God bless you all!!!
QuoteJust an update to all of you who offered your insight and compassion:
I had an MRI last week and it showed I have an inflamed blood vessel on my 7th cranial nerve (Cerebral Vasculitus) causing the dizziness, head pressure, fatigue, etc.
SOOOO....corticosteroids and anti-inflammatories are the first line of action and if that doesn't alleviate it then the much anticipated brain-surgery would be next.
I just want to thank you all again for your empathy and actually caring and offering your support. It really did wonders for my morale and outlook! God bless you all!!!
I wish you the best of luck. I'm glad that you've found the source of your troubles and that you're headed down the path to recovery. I'm also glad that we were able to help! Keep us updated on your progress.
Best wishes
Hopefully it gets better before resorting to surgery