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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysQSk1c9EKs
I've dangled the email carrot to a few folks, please pass that along to anyone I may have missed.
Lots of love, and thanks for everything.
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Why is everyone leaving?
QuoteWhy is everyone leaving?
not sure...but I am still here and I expect you and Ghostess to stay here so we can discuss the final series of Lost. And music. And specifically MMJ.
One of the best members will be missed... :'(
You will be missed K.
What?!?!? Sonnavahbitch.
QuoteQuoteWhy is everyone leaving?
not sure...but I am still here and I expect you and Ghostess to stay here so we can discuss the final series of Lost. And music. And specifically MMJ.
I'll leave the Lost discussion to the pros, but I'll be here too!
Sorry to hear you're leavin' K...I have a feeling we'll see some of the folks back here when tours or new albums are announced...so it's not "goodbye", but "see ya later". :)
QuoteQuoteQuoteWhy is everyone leaving?
not sure...but I am still here and I expect you and Ghostess to stay here so we can discuss the final series of Lost. And music. And specifically MMJ.
I'll leave the Lost discussion to the pros, but I'll be here too!
Sorry to hear you're leavin' K...I have a feeling we'll see some of the folks back here when tours or new albums are announced...so it's not "goodbye", but "see ya later". :)
I think this is whats going to happen too, but maybe not.
Last time I checked, no one is forced to be on here and if you want to take a break, its easier to not check the board out and then come around when you want to as opposed to becoming an ex-member. These feel like attention grabs more than anything now.
See ya K. I enjoyed a lot of your music posts especially, but like I said, have a kit kat and take a break and come back around when its time instead of leaving for "good"
I hope K and the others do come back. Hopefully someone can fill the music hole. But realize, it's going to be BIG shoes to fill! And late night cocktails 8-)
This sucks.
good members are leaving......damn
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How about a swine song ;)
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See you K. You bought a lot of musical knowledge to the board.
Quotegood members are leaving......damn
Not all of them... ;)
QuoteWhy is everyone leaving?
Let's find out ::)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FelKwxy-e4A&feature=related
For those that are thinking about leaving, how about just leaving? The big self-aggrandizing announcements are tiresome.
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I care...
me too
QuoteI care...
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Quoteme too
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QuoteQuoteme too
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Hey, etb, why do you have to be such an asshole about this? You and mickeyreds and leon were late to the party, and missed what a great place this was...people are leaving because it's changed, and sadly, it's changed because of people like YOU, who seem to enjoy driving people off! And I know that you haven't done anything directly to most of these folks, but it's the general, continual bullshit flowing from you clowns that's the problem. I know you think it's funny, but most other people here think it's rude to post a stupid fucking certificate like that as a response to someones genuine concern. It's posts like this (times several hundred) from you clowns that has bogged this place down in the past several months.
mickeyreds, leontheslut, and edtombell: I don't like what you post. The board would be a better place without you - that's not personal juegement, that's a fact.
QuoteQuoteQuoteme too
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Hey, etb, why do you have to be such an[highlight] asshole[/highlight] about this?[highlight] You[/highlight] and mickeyreds and leon were late to the party, and missed what a great place this was...people are leaving because it's changed, and sadly, it's changed because of [highlight]people like YOU[/highlight], who seem to enjoy driving people off! And I know that you haven't done anything directly to most of these folks, but it's the general, continual[highlight] bullshit[/highlight] flowing from [highlight]you clowns[/highlight] that's the problem. I know [highlight]you[/highlight] think it's funny, but most other people here think it's rude to post a stupid [highlight]fucking[/highlight] certificate like that as a response to someones genuine concern. It's posts like this (times several hundred) from[highlight] you clowns[/highlight] that has bogged this place down in the past several months.
I'm not [highlight]here to play morality cop.[/highlight] I'm here to tell mickeyreds, leontheslut, and edtombell that I don't like what they post. [highlight]The board would be a better place without them - that's not, personal juegement that's a fact. [/highlight]
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QuoteQuoteQuoteme too
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Hey, etb, why do you have to be such an asshole about this? You and mickeyreds and leon were late to the party, and missed what a great place this was...people are leaving because it's changed, and sadly, it's changed because of people like YOU, who seem to enjoy driving people off! And I know that you haven't done anything directly to most of these folks, but it's the general, continual bullshit flowing from you clowns that's the problem. I know you think it's funny, but most other people here think it's rude to post a stupid fucking certificate like that as a response to someones genuine concern. It's posts like this (times several hundred) from you clowns that has bogged this place down in the past several months.
mickeyreds, leontheslut, and edtombell: I don't like what you post. The board would be a better place without you - that's not personal juegement, that's a fact.
Some people just can't help themselves. They were born assholes. Again, it's like that one dude that walks into a party, that doesn't know anyone, and is instantly an asshole. It's one thing to be kind of an asshole in general, but to walk into a party and instantly start your asshole guns a blazing pisses people off. It's a free country but that doesn't mean we like you. How about some intellegent input, oh I don't know, once every 10 posts or so? Would that be too much to ask?
Didn't you guys create your own thread that you can be assholes in? Here's an idea, if you don't like the fucking threads that people are saying goodbye in, than stay the fuck out of them. Seems pretty simple to me.
I've always thought Jacket fans were pretty like minded and looked at the world with the same eyes.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteme too
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Hey, etb, why do you have to be such an asshole about this? You and mickeyreds and leon were late to the party, and missed what a great place this was...people are leaving because it's changed, and sadly, it's changed because of people like YOU, who seem to enjoy driving people off! And I know that you haven't done anything directly to most of these folks, but it's the general, continual bullshit flowing from you clowns that's the problem. I know you think it's funny, but most other people here think it's rude to post a stupid fucking certificate like that as a response to someones genuine concern. It's posts like this (times several hundred) from you clowns that has bogged this place down in the past several months.
mickeyreds, leontheslut, and edtombell: I don't like what you post. The board would be a better place without you - that's not personal juegement, that's a fact.
Some people just can't help themselves. They were born assholes. Again, it's like that one dude that walks into a party, that doesn't know anyone, and is instantly an asshole. It's one thing to be kind of an asshole in general, but to walk into a party and instantly start your asshole guns a blazing pisses people off. It's a free country but that doesn't mean we like you. Fuck you. How about some intellegent input, oh I don't know, once every 10 posts or so? Would that be too much to ask? Or is it all asshole all the time with Leon and "Mickeyreds"? Oh well, "Who Fucking Cares?" right mickey?
Didn't you guys create your own thread that you can be assholes in? Here's an idea, if you don't like the fucking threads that people are saying goodbye in, than stay the fuck out of them. Seems pretty simple to me.
I've always thought Jacket fans were pretty like minded and looked at the world with the same eyes.
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QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteme too
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Hey, etb, why do you have to be such an[highlight] asshole[/highlight] about this?[highlight] You[/highlight] and mickeyreds and leon were late to the party, and missed what a great place this was...people are leaving because it's changed, and sadly, it's changed because of [highlight]people like YOU[/highlight], who seem to enjoy driving people off! And I know that you haven't done anything directly to most of these folks, but it's the general, continual[highlight] bullshit[/highlight] flowing from [highlight]you clowns[/highlight] that's the problem. I know [highlight]you[/highlight] think it's funny, but most other people here think it's rude to post a stupid [highlight]fucking[/highlight] certificate like that as a response to someones genuine concern. It's posts like this (times several hundred) from[highlight] you clowns[/highlight] that has bogged this place down in the past several months.
I'm not [highlight]here to play morality cop.[/highlight] I'm here to tell mickeyreds, leontheslut, and edtombell that I don't like what they post. [highlight]The board would be a better place without them - that's not, personal juegement that's a fact. [/highlight]
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Oh, another cute picture...I don't understand what you're saying though. You've highlighted all the good words, so you must understand what I was trying to get across.
I've NEVER been one to say that only one style or group can exist here on this board, I've only asked everyone to be considerate of each other. You're not capable of that, because you're an asshole, so I called you out. Quit pissing in the pool little boy. It's not funny.
Oh, and you were right about one thing...it is my personal judgement that this would be a better board without you here. But it's also most other people's judgement too, and it's also a [highlight]fact.[/highlight]
There you go, I started your coloring project for you. Now post another funny little picture and go off snickering with your clown friends.
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I've NEVER been one to say that only one style or group can exist here on this board, I've only asked everyone to be considerate of each other. You're not capable of that, because you're an asshole, so I called you out. Quit pissing in the pool little boy. It's not funny.
Everyone has the right to have their quarrels here, but dont bring up pool pissing! >:(
If you havent tried it recently, you should. It feels radical and creates a warm spot and gets a bad rep from little kids. Trust me, babies know whats up more than you think (naps, breastfeeding, not having to wipe their own ass) and us older folks should follow their lead more often.
bbill
Take a work break I'm sure your boss would rather have you do that than spend time on the board. The first pic was for errolesqe not for you, the second was for the other guy not for you. I'll post what and where I want like anyone else. I don't care what you think or if you or anyone else here likes me or what I post.
etb
Quotebbill
Take a work break I'm sure your boss would rather have you do that than spend time on the board. The first pic was for errolesqe not for you, the second was for the other guy not for you. I'll post what and where I want like anyone else. [highlight]I don't care what you think or if you or anyone else here likes me or what I post. [/highlight]
etb
=the problem with America
QuoteQuotebbill
Take a work break I'm sure your boss would rather have you do that than spend time on the board. The first pic was for errolesqe not for you, the second was for the other guy not for you. I'll post what and where I want like anyone else. [highlight]I don't care what you think or if you or anyone else here likes me or what I post. [/highlight]
etb
=the problem with America
=the problem w/humanity in general
QuoteQuotebbill
Take a work break I'm sure your boss would rather have you do that than spend time on the board. The first pic was for errolesqe not for you, the second was for the other guy not for you. I'll post what and where I want like anyone else. [highlight]I don't care what you think or if you or anyone else here likes me or what I post. [/highlight]
etb
=the problem with America
Don't blame america for my outlook. This vine amused me the OP with the Bealtes ;D the grand sign off :D the posts of genuwhine concern ;D good stuff....... then the name calling........................................
then the thread will be deleted.
I mostly post in 6 different threads you know which ;)but if someone puts a big softball up ...well......... :-X....right
ETB, I'm not really sure if you get the purpose of this forum... :-?
I know you're just tryin to have some fun, but this really is a one of a kind forum. We're all friends on some level who love the Jacket. What you're doing is equivalent to being the drunken douche at a party who makes everyone want to go home early. There's plenty of internet to go around, so if there's some other (probably larger) forum where a bunch of people who don't know each other and just post whatever the hell they want all day, maybe you should go there instead.
And nice knowing ya, K!
QuoteQuoteQuotebbill
Take a work break I'm sure your boss would rather have you do that than spend time on the board. The first pic was for errolesqe not for you, the second was for the other guy not for you. I'll post what and where I want like anyone else. [highlight]I don't care what you think or if you or anyone else here likes me or what I post. [/highlight]
etb
=the problem with America
=the problem w/humanity in general
now humanity cool
follow the bright white light.
QuoteETB, I'm not really sure if you get the purpose of this forum... :-?
I know you're just tryin to have some fun, but this really is a one of a kind forum. We're all friends on some level who love the Jacket. What you're doing is equivalent to being the drunken douche at a party who makes everyone want to go home early. There's plenty of internet to go around, so if there's some other (probably larger) forum where a bunch of people who don't know each other and just post whatever the hell they want all day, maybe you should go there instead.
Way to rehash the same b.s. the other sheeple said.
You guys are right we are the drunks that show up to the party. The only problem is it's a tea party with a bunch of little whiney attention whore drama queens. For some reason I thought some cool people must listen to MMJ (and they do), but you guys are a bunch of old queens.
The fact is most of you are sheep. If one sheep goes one way you all follow along. I could create a new username here under a different IP, fluff some of your egos and you would let me right into your circle jerk. As long as I sheeple up.
Quotefollow the bright white light.
Yes...preferably the one inside the train tunnel. Go to it!
QuoteQuoteETB, I'm not really sure if you get the purpose of this forum... :-?
I know you're just tryin to have some fun, but this really is a one of a kind forum. We're all friends on some level who love the Jacket. What you're doing is equivalent to being the drunken douche at a party who makes everyone want to go home early. There's plenty of internet to go around, so if there's some other (probably larger) forum where a bunch of people who don't know each other and just post whatever the hell they want all day, maybe you should go there instead.
Way to rehash the same b.s. the other sheeple said.
You guys are right we are the drunks that show up to the party. The only problem is it's a tea party with a bunch of little whiney attention whore drama queens. For some reason I thought some cool people must listen to MMJ (and they do), but you guys are a bunch of old queens.
The fact is most of you are sheep. If one sheep goes one way you all follow along. I could create a new username here under a different IP, fluff some of your egos and you would let me right into your circle jerk. As long as I sheeple up.
So there's really no reason for you to stick around then I guess since we all suck and this is just boring T-Party, right? Drive safe.
QuoteQuoteETB, I'm not really sure if you get the purpose of this forum... :-?
I know you're just tryin to have some fun, but this really is a one of a kind forum. We're all friends on some level who love the Jacket. What you're doing is equivalent to being the drunken douche at a party who makes everyone want to go home early. There's plenty of internet to go around, so if there's some other (probably larger) forum where a bunch of people who don't know each other and just post whatever the hell they want all day, maybe you should go there instead.
Way to rehash the same b.s. the other sheeple said.
[highlight]You guys are right we are the drunks that show up to the party. The only problem is it's a tea party with a bunch of little whiney attention whore drama queens. For some reason I thought some cool people must listen to MMJ (and they do), but you guys are a bunch of old queens. [/highlight]
The fact is most of you are sheep. If one sheep goes one way you all follow along. I could create a new username here under a different IP, fluff some of your egos and you would let me right into your circle jerk. As long as I sheeple up.
Then what the fuck are you doing here?
Seriously?
QuoteQuoteQuoteETB, I'm not really sure if you get the purpose of this forum... :-?
I know you're just tryin to have some fun, but this really is a one of a kind forum. We're all friends on some level who love the Jacket. What you're doing is equivalent to being the drunken douche at a party who makes everyone want to go home early. There's plenty of internet to go around, so if there's some other (probably larger) forum where a bunch of people who don't know each other and just post whatever the hell they want all day, maybe you should go there instead.
Way to rehash the same b.s. the other sheeple said.
[highlight]You guys are right we are the drunks that show up to the party. The only problem is it's a tea party with a bunch of little whiney attention whore drama queens. For some reason I thought some cool people must listen to MMJ (and they do), but you guys are a bunch of old queens. [/highlight]
The fact is most of you are sheep. If one sheep goes one way you all follow along. I could create a new username here under a different IP, fluff some of your egos and you would let me right into your circle jerk. As long as I sheeple up.
Then what the fuck are you doing here?
Seriously?
agreed. if we're all so lame and boring, then why even bother? isn't there another forum you can join?
i'm really, really tired of logging on and seeing a bunch of ignorant and offensive comments in, like, every thread... and bumping six-year-old threads for no other reason than to make some dumbass joke is pretty weak, too.
i like this forum. i think it's a pretty cool place, and most people here have worked to create a nice little community.
what sucks is that some people just can't deal with that. i mean, why do y'all have to be so rude? what good can possibly arise from always being intentionally malicious and blatantly disrespectful towards others?
but whatever; right?
::)
Quotebbill
Take a work break I'm sure your boss would rather have you do that than spend time on the board. The first pic was for errolesqe not for you, the second was for the other guy not for you. I'll post what and where I want like anyone else. I don't care what you think or if you or anyone else here likes me or what I post.
etb
Thank you for the certificate! It is very cute and childish, like you.
QuoteQuoteQuoteETB, I'm not really sure if you get the purpose of this forum... :-?
I know you're just tryin to have some fun, but this really is a one of a kind forum. We're all friends on some level who love the Jacket. What you're doing is equivalent to being the drunken douche at a party who makes everyone want to go home early. There's plenty of internet to go around, so if there's some other (probably larger) forum where a bunch of people who don't know each other and just post whatever the hell they want all day, maybe you should go there instead.
Way to rehash the same b.s. the other sheeple said.
[highlight]You guys are right we are the drunks that show up to the party. The only problem is it's a tea party with a bunch of little whiney attention whore drama queens. For some reason I thought some cool people must listen to MMJ (and they do), but you guys are a bunch of old queens. [/highlight]
The fact is most of you are sheep. If one sheep goes one way you all follow along. I could create a new username here under a different IP, fluff some of your egos and you would let me right into your circle jerk. As long as I sheeple up.
Then what the fuck are you doing here?
Seriously?
Because I love driving you crazy...
BTW who are you? Have I ever even spoken to you or are you just following the crowd?
If a horse drinks from the river is he following the herd or just doing what comes naturally?
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteETB, I'm not really sure if you get the purpose of this forum... :-?
I know you're just tryin to have some fun, but this really is a one of a kind forum. We're all friends on some level who love the Jacket. What you're doing is equivalent to being the drunken douche at a party who makes everyone want to go home early. There's plenty of internet to go around, so if there's some other (probably larger) forum where a bunch of people who don't know each other and just post whatever the hell they want all day, maybe you should go there instead.
Way to rehash the same b.s. the other sheeple said.
[highlight]You guys are right we are the drunks that show up to the party. The only problem is it's a tea party with a bunch of little whiney attention whore drama queens. For some reason I thought some cool people must listen to MMJ (and they do), but you guys are a bunch of old queens. [/highlight]
The fact is most of you are sheep. If one sheep goes one way you all follow along. I could create a new username here under a different IP, fluff some of your egos and you would let me right into your circle jerk. As long as I sheeple up.
Then what the fuck are you doing here?
Seriously?
Because I love driving you crazy...
BTW who are you? Have I ever even spoken to you or are you just following the crowd?
Drive me crazy? Right, dude. I actually may not even sleep tonight.
It's not hard to get along with the people here but you and your buds are kind of douche-ing the place up. Why don't y'all just trade numbers and giggle with each other over the phone. We all win!
:-*
QuoteIf a horse drinks from the river is he following the herd or just doing what comes naturally?
nice...
If you dont like the things I post, I apologize.....but dont take it out on LeontheSlut and ETB. They my teammates, they my friends....
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QuoteIf you dont like the things I post, I apologize.....but dont take it out on LeontheSlut and ETB. They my teammates, they my friends....
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;D Good job dude.
Man, I'm sorry I was on such a rampage, I just can't stand inconsiderate people. I really don't care if anyone is crude or posts retarded shit...just recognize the appropriate thread and audience for it...
QuoteQuoteETB, I'm not really sure if you get the purpose of this forum... :-?
I know you're just tryin to have some fun, but this really is a one of a kind forum. We're all friends on some level who love the Jacket. What you're doing is equivalent to being the drunken douche at a party who makes everyone want to go home early. There's plenty of internet to go around, so if there's some other (probably larger) forum where a bunch of people who don't know each other and just post whatever the hell they want all day, maybe you should go there instead.
Way to rehash the same b.s. the other sheeple said.
You guys are right we are the drunks that show up to the party. The only problem is it's a tea party with a bunch of little whiney attention whore drama queens. For some reason I thought some cool people must listen to MMJ (and they do), but you guys are a bunch of old queens.
The fact is most of you are sheep. If one sheep goes one way you all follow along. I could create a new username here under a different IP, fluff some of your egos and you would let me right into your circle jerk. As long as I sheeple up.
OH NO! NOT THE DREADED SHEEP METAPHOR!
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Tragically, you continue to miss the point. You're a troll who's deluding himself. Obviously from your last post you haven't looked at a single post on this forum other than your own and the ones that refer directly to you. Yet you interrupt every thread with a picture of whatever you happen to be thinking of at the time. Attention whore much? And you seem to feel the need to respond to every last bit of criticism leveled at you. My whine-detector is going off. You're making us yawn with fear.
Thanks for the apology, MickeyReds. Sorry I have to keep calling this guy out.
QuoteQuoteQuoteETB, I'm not really sure if you get the purpose of this forum... :-?
I know you're just tryin to have some fun, but this really is a one of a kind forum. We're all friends on some level who love the Jacket. What you're doing is equivalent to being the drunken douche at a party who makes everyone want to go home early. There's plenty of internet to go around, so if there's some other (probably larger) forum where a bunch of people who don't know each other and just post whatever the hell they want all day, maybe you should go there instead.
Way to rehash the same b.s. the other sheeple said.
You guys are right we are the drunks that show up to the party. The only problem is it's a tea party with a bunch of little whiney attention whore drama queens. For some reason I thought some cool people must listen to MMJ (and they do), but you guys are a bunch of old queens.
The fact is most of you are sheep. If one sheep goes one way you all follow along. I could create a new username here under a different IP, fluff some of your egos and you would let me right into your circle jerk. As long as I sheeple up.
OH NO! NOT THE DREADED SHEEP METAPHOR!
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l240/robo848/not_this_shit_again.jpg)
Tragically, you continue to miss the point. You're a troll who's deluding himself. Obviously from your last post you haven't looked at a single post on this forum other than your own and the ones that refer directly to you. Yet you interrupt every thread with a picture of whatever you happen to be thinking of at the time. Attention whore much? And you seem to feel the need to respond to every last bit of criticism leveled at you. My whine-detector is going off. You're making us yawn with fear.
Thanks for the apology, MickeyReds. Sorry I have to keep calling this guy out.
You dont HAVE to. You are choosing to.
True, I'll give you that.
Life's too short. Just be nice.
A level headed young man brings some semblance to our Jacket World...
Really? Really? Come on ya'll. This was a thread for K to say goodbye to his forum friends. The energy has changed here, for sure. But K also has other things going on in his life and he just wanted to let his friends here know that he wasn't going to be around. It wasn't to start another war of words. So lets just keep this thread about the swan song. I don't care if some of you don't get it. But K is a good kid that I can truly count as my friend. Him and I have been able to keep some of the old forum traditions alive on the sly. Like cd swaps. Remember the good ole' days when you would willingly sign up for a cd swap and give out your personal address to someone on this forum? And you were willing to do so because everyone (who was) here was stellar? Those were good days. But I am not leaving. No I don't post 24/7. I have an interesting enough job to stay off the forum during work and have other things to attend to in life. But I love the band and I really appreciate the relationships that I have been able to form here. So to get back on topic: another swan song
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNifuXh9ISE[/media]
Well said, well said. I've been floored by acts of kindness I've personally experienced on this board.
I've not been around this board long, but I "get" the sense of community. I also appreciate the different opinions and points of view. And I have a hardy sense of humor. Everything has it's time and place.
There is never ever ever a reason to be deliberately rude.
Apologies for the bad vibes, y'all. Here we go...
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28w4_cJK8Ss[/media]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVdTQ3OPtGY[/media]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SD3wBBkLjuE[/media]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLGdvFtkso4[/media]