I bet they are just thrilled!!
Holy shit. Kentucky has produced some of my favorite people, but this dude is an embarassing joke. WTF? Now I'm afraid to see what other stupid decisions are being made around the country. I might not sleep tonight.
Scary freak Rand Paul!
Just stay on the forum all night and pretend it's not happening. I'm seeing RED RED RED
My Granite state is going from purple to red. A sad day. :'(
However. Good-bye Christine O'Donnell. Get on your broom and fly directly into the sun you horrible excuse for a woman.
The only good thing she gave me was this hilarious picture I took at the rally last Saturday.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4086/5140934657_b652c9ff04.jpg)
QuoteHowever. Good-bye Christine O'Donnell. Get on your broom and fly directly into the sun you horrible excuse for a woman.
The only good thing she gave me was this hilarious picture I took at the rally last Saturday.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4086/5140934657_b652c9ff04.jpg)
bah hah!
QuoteHowever. Good-bye Christine O'Donnell. Get on your broom and fly directly into the sun you horrible excuse for a woman.
The only good thing she gave me was this hilarious picture I took at the rally last Saturday.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4086/5140934657_b652c9ff04.jpg)
glad christine went down. rand paul is a different kind of beast altogether. the dude is a loon. wouldn't even apologize for his followers stomping that lady who was protesting at one of his rallies or whatever.
it blows that most southerns are fucking idiots. (no offense to anyone here, I'm speaking more about the hicks and meth heads).
QuoteHowever. Good-bye Christine O'Donnell. Get on your broom and fly directly into the sun you horrible excuse for a woman.
The only good thing she gave me was this hilarious picture I took at the rally last Saturday.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4086/5140934657_b652c9ff04.jpg)
;D ;D
QuoteQuoteHowever. Good-bye Christine O'Donnell. Get on your broom and fly directly into the sun you horrible excuse for a woman.
The only good thing she gave me was this hilarious picture I took at the rally last Saturday.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4086/5140934657_b652c9ff04.jpg)
glad christine went down. rand paul is a different kind of beast altogether. the dude is a loon. wouldn't even apologize for his followers stomping that lady who was protesting at one of his rallies or whatever.
it blows that most southerns are fucking idiots. (no offense to anyone here, I'm speaking more about the hicks and meth heads).
Indeed. THAT whole incident was a scary bit of nonsense. We're supposed to be civilized.
wonder if christine o'donnell tried to cast a spell on delaware and it just didn't work right...
:(
:P
Quote
it blows that most southerns are fucking idiots. (no offense to anyone here, I'm speaking more about the hicks and meth heads).
southerns? :-/
QuoteQuote
it blows that most southerns are fucking idiots. (no offense to anyone here, I'm speaking more about the hicks and meth heads).
southerns? :-/
my bad, southerners.
http://npr.tumblr.com/post/1466599920/profile-of-the-republican-voter
I just hope this whole thing isn't a referendum on theocracy or xenophobia
it is so so sad that people think Rand is a slightly intelligent man
QuoteQuoteQuoteHowever. Good-bye Christine O'Donnell. Get on your broom and fly directly into the sun you horrible excuse for a woman.
The only good thing she gave me was this hilarious picture I took at the rally last Saturday.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4086/5140934657_b652c9ff04.jpg)
glad christine went down. rand paul is a different kind of beast altogether. the dude is a loon. wouldn't even apologize for his followers stomping that lady who was protesting at one of his rallies or whatever.
it blows that most southerns are fucking idiots. (no offense to anyone here, I'm speaking more about the hicks and meth heads).
Indeed. THAT whole incident was a scary bit of nonsense. We're supposed to be civilized.
THAT incident is an embarrassment! It blows my mind. And as person who has lived in the deep south and the top of the south/mid west... I honestly have to agree with sticky.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteHowever. Good-bye Christine O'Donnell. Get on your broom and fly directly into the sun you horrible excuse for a woman.
The only good thing she gave me was this hilarious picture I took at the rally last Saturday.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4086/5140934657_b652c9ff04.jpg)
glad christine went down. rand paul is a different kind of beast altogether. the dude is a loon. wouldn't even apologize for his followers stomping that lady who was protesting at one of his rallies or whatever.
it blows that most southerns are fucking idiots. (no offense to anyone here, I'm speaking more about the hicks and meth heads).
Indeed. THAT whole incident was a scary bit of nonsense. We're supposed to be civilized.
THAT incident is an embarrassment! It blows my mind. And as person who has lived in the deep south and the top of the south/mid west... I honestly have to agree with sticky.
Most southerners are fucking idiots? I mean, regardless of you talking about me and my family, show some class b/c you're talking about members of My Morning Jacket and their families, too.
jeeez
I don't have time to deal with you tracy. stop trolling this thread, we're having a good discussion.
QuoteI just hope this whole thing isn't a referendum on theocracy or xenophobia
we're totally headed for a theocracy/plutocracy hybrid. hopefully obama cockblocks these dbags with vetos if he has to. I love me some b-rock.
QuoteI don't have time to deal with you tracy. stop trolling this thread, we're having a good discussion.
not trolling at all.
Saying that "most southerners are fucking idiots" is a stupid thing to say on a southern band's fan site.
Think about it.
QuoteQuoteI don't have time to deal with you tracy. stop trolling this thread, we're having a good discussion.
not trolling at all.
Saying that "most southerners are fucking idiots" is a stupid thing to say on a southern band's fan site.
Think about it.
I explained who I was talking about and if you consider yourself a dumb racist hick or a meth head that's not my fault. get over it and go to bed, you're getting grouchy.
QuoteQuoteQuoteI don't have time to deal with you tracy. stop trolling this thread, we're having a good discussion.
not trolling at all.
Saying that "most southerners are fucking idiots" is a stupid thing to say on a southern band's fan site.
Think about it.
I explained who I was talking about and if you consider yourself a dumb racist hick or a meth head that's not my fault. get over it and go to bed, you're getting grouchy.
meth heads vote? ;D
(and I'm expecting a rationale discussion from someone who's signature reads > Plop Go My Balls On Yer Chinny Chin Chin)
:-/
you're really grasping at straws man. are you drunk or something?
QuoteI just hope this whole thing isn't a referendum on theocracy or xenophobia
it isn't
and Obama isn't a communist
America is run by corporations; Democrat or Republican. PERIOD. The billionaires on either side are not going to let things change too much.
Politicians running on an "anti-Washington D.C." platform is genius. You got to give the republicans credit.
so this is the politics thread then, eh??? ;D
sticky, tracy pulls this all the time...its his #2, slightly behind the "i was just trying to get a rise out of you" card which is his favorite
REDRUM
Quoteso this is the politics thread then, eh??? ;D
sticky, tracy pulls this all the time...its his #2, slightly behind the "i was just trying to get a rise out of you" card which is a favorite of his
REDRUM
yep, that's it
someone says that "most southerners are fucking idiots" and I say that's not a cool thing to say.
that's me trying to get a rise out of someone
sort of like when I called you out for saying "vaginas are money vacuums" or when the other yay-hoo was calling Harvey Milk a "pole smoker"
I point out that these things are offensive b/c I like getting a rise out of people. You know, sense I have common sense ;)
Quoteso this is the politics thread then, eh??? ;D
sticky, tracy pulls this all the time...its his #2, slightly behind the "i was just trying to get a rise out of you" card which is his favorite
REDRUM
I love how he diverted to you. he's like a parasite in troll form.
QuoteQuoteso this is the politics thread then, eh??? ;D
sticky, tracy pulls this all the time...its his #2, slightly behind the "i was just trying to get a rise out of you" card which is his favorite
REDRUM
I love how he diverted to you. he's like a parasite in troll form.
You guys are going to need a bigger boat ;)
QuoteQuoteso this is the politics thread then, eh??? ;D
sticky, tracy pulls this all the time...its his #2, slightly behind the "i was just trying to get a rise out of you" card which is a favorite of his
REDRUM
yep, that's it
someone says that "most southerners are fucking idiots" and I say that's not a cool thing to say.
that's me trying to get a rise out of someone
No, trying to get a rise out of someone is #1.
Nitpicking individual posts that someone makes here and turning them into grandiose statements that you take personal offense to, even though they werent aimed at/include you to begin with, is your #2 which you utilized here is vintage tracy fashion.
QuoteQuoteQuoteso this is the politics thread then, eh??? ;D
sticky, tracy pulls this all the time...its his #2, slightly behind the "i was just trying to get a rise out of you" card which is a favorite of his
REDRUM
yep, that's it
someone says that "most southerners are fucking idiots" and I say that's not a cool thing to say.
that's me trying to get a rise out of someone
No, trying to get a rise out of someone is #1.
Nitpicking individual posts that someone makes here and turning them into grandiose statements that you take personal offense to, even though they werent aimed at/include you to begin with, is your #2 which you utulized here is vintage tracy fashion.
I feel flattered (and sort of studied).
(http://www.hadeseh.com/english/photos/shikam-party.jpg)
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteso this is the politics thread then, eh??? ;D
sticky, tracy pulls this all the time...its his #2, slightly behind the "i was just trying to get a rise out of you" card which is a favorite of his
REDRUM
yep, that's it
someone says that "most southerners are fucking idiots" and I say that's not a cool thing to say.
that's me trying to get a rise out of someone
No, trying to get a rise out of someone is #1.
Nitpicking individual posts that someone makes here and turning them into grandiose statements that you take personal offense to, even though they werent aimed at/include you to begin with, is your #2 which you utulized here is vintage tracy fashion.
I feel flattered (and sort of studied).
(http://www.hadeseh.com/english/photos/shikam-party.jpg)
1) You should be happy because based on what I said, that means I dont think youre a fucking idiot southern
2) Im slightly concerned/scared/laughing you were able to locate and post that pic in 3 minutes.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteso this is the politics thread then, eh??? ;D
sticky, tracy pulls this all the time...its his #2, slightly behind the "i was just trying to get a rise out of you" card which is a favorite of his
REDRUM
yep, that's it
someone says that "most southerners are fucking idiots" and I say that's not a cool thing to say.
that's me trying to get a rise out of someone
No, trying to get a rise out of someone is #1.
Nitpicking individual posts that someone makes here and turning them into grandiose statements that you take personal offense to, even though they werent aimed at/include you to begin with, is your #2 which you utulized here is vintage tracy fashion.
I feel flattered (and sort of studied).
(http://www.hadeseh.com/english/photos/shikam-party.jpg)
1) You should be happy because based on what I said, that means I dont think youre a fucking idiot southern
2) Im slightly concerned/scared/laughing you were able to locate and post that pic in 3 minutes.
the odd thing is the Google search that produced that pic was >
Get a rise out of you
Gee I didn't realize Detroit was such a "mecca" for big "thinkers"
stupid comment sticky >:(
Sorry, Sticky, Tracy's got you on this one. You live in Detroit, home of the worst public school system in the country. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
And anyone who's traveled even a little can tell you, there are idiots everywhere, in every country, state, city, and county.
QuoteSorry, Sticky, Tracy's got you on this one. You live in Detroit, home of the worst public school system in the country. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
[highlight]And anyone who's traveled even a little can tell you, there are idiots everywhere, in every country, state, city, and county.
[/highlight]
Ain't it the truth
Tracy...is this a family reunion?
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QuoteTracy...is this a family reunion?
(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn51/bigsky26/TracysFamily.jpg)
I think it would have been better if you worked the bird in there
photoshop is cool
QuoteQuoteTracy...is this a family reunion?
(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn51/bigsky26/TracysFamily.jpg)
I think it would have been better if you worked the bird in there
photoshop is cool
I didn't think the bird belonged...everyone is so jolly.
Southerners ARE fucking idiots. AND Northerners AND Westerners AND Easterners. It's only the people smack dab in the center of the country that have any fucking cents.
[size=8](See what I did there? ^)[/size]
QuoteSoutherners ARE fucking idiots. AND Northerners AND Westerners AND Easterners. It's only the people smack dab in the center of the country that have any fucking cents.
[size=8](See what I did there? ^)[/size]
I say we get all of us ignants together and have a fat part (see above)...it looks like a blast! :D
Wow sticky.... It's probably a good thing for you that people don't know what you look like. I don't think it would be a good idea to go to any mmj shows south of the Mason Dixon line. You might get invited to a boot party full of " idiot southerners" .
How can you call out Tracy as a Troll when your exemplifying the exact definition of one with your post ? Kinda hypocrtitical isn't it ?
See for your self.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trolling
So, anyway. How about them election results?
When I met my first class of students, in rural Roxboro, NC, and told them I was from NH, they said I must think they're a bunch of rednecks. I said they should come to NH. We invented redneck. Stupidity, ignorance, bigotry are universal traits of the intellectually lazy, who came out in force yesterday. Might be time to move to VT.
QuoteSo, anyway. How about them election results?
When I met my first class of students, in rural Roxboro, NC, and told them I was from NH, they said I must think they're a bunch of rednecks. I said they should come to NH. We invented redneck. Stupidity, ignorance, bigotry are universal traits of the intellectually lazy, who came out in force yesterday. [highlight]Might be time to move to VT[/highlight].
The mountains are greener... ;)
QuoteWow sticky.... It's probably a good thing for you that people don't know what you look like. I don't think it would be a good idea to go to any mmj shows south of the Mason Dixon line. You might get invited to a boot party full of " idiot southerners" .
How can you call out Tracy as a Troll when your exemplifying the exact definition of one with your post ? Kinda hypocrtitical isn't it ?
See for your self.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trolling
oh tator, why do you gotta take tracy's side? what I'm doing isn't even close to trolling.
I still stand by my statement. Florida is southern as fuck and stupid as fuck, but it's because of old people. Detroit's voter turn out blows but it isn't hyper reactive like it is in the south. If you all have a problem with me dissing stupid southern hicks and meth heads I'm sorry. the old people are the biggest problem. the huge generation gap. the racists. my great grandpa and grandma are from Tennessee, my family is not immune from the ignorance. but then again I am part cherokee and this was my families land long before any of you white ass bitches stole it from us and sent us walking down the trail of tears.
QuoteQuoteWow sticky.... It's probably a good thing for you that people don't know what you look like. I don't think it would be a good idea to go to any mmj shows south of the Mason Dixon line. You might get invited to a boot party full of " idiot southerners" .
How can you call out Tracy as a Troll when your exemplifying the exact definition of one with your post ? Kinda hypocrtitical isn't it ?
See for your self.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trolling
oh tator, why do you gotta take tracy's side? what I'm doing isn't even close to trolling.
I still stand by my statement. Florida is southern as fuck and stupid as fuck, but it's because of old people. Detroit's voter turn out blows but it isn't hyper reactive like it is in the south. If you all have a problem with me dissing stupid southern hicks and meth heads I'm sorry. the old people are the biggest problem. the huge generation gap. the racists. my great grandpa and grandma are from Tennessee, my family is not immune from the ignorance. but then again I am part cherokee and this was my families land long before any of you white ass bitches stole it from us and sent us walking down the trail of tears.
So what you're saying is your granparents are stupid as fuck? Man, you ever consider working part-time writing Hallmark cards?
QuoteQuoteQuoteWow sticky.... It's probably a good thing for you that people don't know what you look like. I don't think it would be a good idea to go to any mmj shows south of the Mason Dixon line. You might get invited to a boot party full of " idiot southerners" .
How can you call out Tracy as a Troll when your exemplifying the exact definition of one with your post ? Kinda hypocrtitical isn't it ?
See for your self.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trolling
oh tator, why do you gotta take tracy's side? what I'm doing isn't even close to trolling.
I still stand by my statement. Florida is southern as fuck and stupid as fuck, but it's because of old people. Detroit's voter turn out blows but it isn't hyper reactive like it is in the south. If you all have a problem with me dissing stupid southern hicks and meth heads I'm sorry. the old people are the biggest problem. the huge generation gap. the racists. my great grandpa and grandma are from Tennessee, my family is not immune from the ignorance. but then again I am part cherokee and this was my families land long before any of you white ass bitches stole it from us and sent us walking down the trail of tears.
So what you're saying is your granparents are stupid as fuck? Man, you ever consider working part-time writing Hallmark cards?
yeah, the one side of my family is dumb as fuck. they're racist and they're extremely religious. Being old doesn't automatically make you smart.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWow sticky.... It's probably a good thing for you that people don't know what you look like. I don't think it would be a good idea to go to any mmj shows south of the Mason Dixon line. You might get invited to a boot party full of " idiot southerners" .
How can you call out Tracy as a Troll when your exemplifying the exact definition of one with your post ? Kinda hypocrtitical isn't it ?
See for your self.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trolling
oh tator, why do you gotta take tracy's side? what I'm doing isn't even close to trolling.
I still stand by my statement. Florida is southern as fuck and stupid as fuck, but it's because of old people. Detroit's voter turn out blows but it isn't hyper reactive like it is in the south. If you all have a problem with me dissing stupid southern hicks and meth heads I'm sorry. the old people are the biggest problem. the huge generation gap. the racists. my great grandpa and grandma are from Tennessee, my family is not immune from the ignorance. but then again I am part cherokee and this was my families land long before any of you white ass bitches stole it from us and sent us walking down the trail of tears.
So what you're saying is your granparents are stupid as fuck? Man, you ever consider working part-time writing Hallmark cards?
yeah, the one side of my family is dumb as fuck. they're racist and they're extremely religious. Being old doesn't automatically make you smart.
SIGS...I think you're making a mistake when you talk in absolutes. It is never a good idea, or does it make a valid argument, when someone universally categorizes a type of person. I have lived all over the US (New England, South Carolina, Montana, California...), and there are idiots everywhere, in equal numbers.
The only person that seems like an idiot in this discussion is you; your comments speak of ignorance and shows that your mentality is narrow. It might be wise to be more considerate of how you portray your ideas.
At the end of the day...why does this matter? Who cares if you are anyone thinks another person is an idiot...it only matters if you regard yourself as an idiot. So...are you an idiot?
Neither a southerner nor old.
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QuoteNeither a southerner nor old.
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...but an idiot.
Oh gosh darnit don'tchaknow all you negative nancies are just misdistortiating the truth here just a smidgen, donchathink?
Get ready for YEARS of hearing Bobby's mom make up words.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWow sticky.... It's probably a good thing for you that people don't know what you look like. I don't think it would be a good idea to go to any mmj shows south of the Mason Dixon line. You might get invited to a boot party full of " idiot southerners" .
How can you call out Tracy as a Troll when your exemplifying the exact definition of one with your post ? Kinda hypocrtitical isn't it ?
See for your self.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trolling
oh tator, why do you gotta take tracy's side? what I'm doing isn't even close to trolling.
I still stand by my statement. Florida is southern as fuck and stupid as fuck, but it's because of old people. Detroit's voter turn out blows but it isn't hyper reactive like it is in the south. If you all have a problem with me dissing stupid southern hicks and meth heads I'm sorry. the old people are the biggest problem. the huge generation gap. the racists. my great grandpa and grandma are from Tennessee, my family is not immune from the ignorance. but then again I am part cherokee and this was my families land long before any of you white ass bitches stole it from us and sent us walking down the trail of tears.
So what you're saying is your granparents are stupid as fuck? Man, you ever consider working part-time writing Hallmark cards?
yeah, the one side of my family is dumb as fuck. they're racist and they're extremely religious. Being old doesn't automatically make you smart.
SIGS...I think you're making a mistake when you talk in absolutes. It is never a good idea, or does it make a valid argument, when someone universally categorizes a type of person. I have lived all over the US (New England, South Carolina, Montana, California...), and there are idiots everywhere, in equal numbers.
The only person that seems like an idiot in this discussion is you; your comments speak of ignorance and shows that your mentality is narrow. It might be wise to be more considerate of how you portray your ideas.
At the end of the day...why does this matter? Who cares if you are anyone thinks another person is an idiot...it only matters if you regard yourself as an idiot. So...are you an idiot?
I'm not making a mistake at all when it comes to all this Rand Paul stuff. you could reference the rolling stone article if you want but the fact of the matter is it's dumb, uneducated old people who are putting these people in office. and of course the wealthy. but back to the stupid old people theory. Old people, more clearly, senior citizens lack a lot of sense these days with fox news being their main source of information. I can't believe you guys are being so defensive about such an obvious truth. the south generally sucks. alabama blows, kentucky is full of lunatic racists, mississippi, missouri, the rest of the bible belt.
there might be smart rational people out there but they didn't come out to vote this cycle.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWow sticky.... It's probably a good thing for you that people don't know what you look like. I don't think it would be a good idea to go to any mmj shows south of the Mason Dixon line. You might get invited to a boot party full of " idiot southerners" .
How can you call out Tracy as a Troll when your exemplifying the exact definition of one with your post ? Kinda hypocrtitical isn't it ?
See for your self.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trolling
oh tator, why do you gotta take tracy's side? what I'm doing isn't even close to trolling.
I still stand by my statement. Florida is southern as fuck and stupid as fuck, but it's because of old people. Detroit's voter turn out blows but it isn't hyper reactive like it is in the south. If you all have a problem with me dissing stupid southern hicks and meth heads I'm sorry. the old people are the biggest problem. the huge generation gap. the racists. my great grandpa and grandma are from Tennessee, my family is not immune from the ignorance. but then again I am part cherokee and this was my families land long before any of you white ass bitches stole it from us and sent us walking down the trail of tears.
So what you're saying is your granparents are stupid as fuck? Man, you ever consider working part-time writing Hallmark cards?
yeah, the one side of my family is dumb as fuck. they're racist and they're extremely religious. Being old doesn't automatically make you smart.
SIGS...I think you're making a mistake when you talk in absolutes. It is never a good idea, or does it make a valid argument, when someone universally categorizes a type of person. I have lived all over the US (New England, South Carolina, Montana, California...), and there are idiots everywhere, in equal numbers.
The only person that seems like an idiot in this discussion is you; your comments speak of ignorance and shows that your mentality is narrow. It might be wise to be more considerate of how you portray your ideas.
At the end of the day...why does this matter? Who cares if you are anyone thinks another person is an idiot...it only matters if you regard yourself as an idiot. So...are you an idiot?
I'm not making a mistake at all when it comes to all this Rand Paul stuff. you could reference the rolling stone article if you want but the fact of the matter is it's dumb, uneducated old people who are putting these people in office. and of course the wealthy. but back to the stupid old people theory. Old people, more clearly, senior citizens lack a lot of sense these days with fox news being their main source of information. I can't believe you guys are being so defensive about such an obvious truth. the south generally sucks. alabama blows, kentucky is full of lunatic racists, mississippi, missouri, the rest of the bible belt.
there might be smart rational people out there but they didn't come out to vote this cycle.
All people who have sticky in their name must be stoned hippies with dreadlocks... ;D
Old people aren't stupid...they are just from a different time...different perspective
You should try to come down off your thrown and check yourself before you reck your self...
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKJsSPATDLY[/media]
but you can't deny that there is a different level of awareness now than there was in the 50's. the internet alone has completely changed social interaction and the way society is run.
I think old people are wise when it comes to life experiences, but again that doesn't necessarily make them intelligent when it comes to american politics this dayinage. especially when the propaganda machine is running full force 24/7 on almost every news channel. It's utter insanity regardless of how stoned I am.
I'm gonna throw my 2 cents in here....
1 cent: I didn't know that sticky was from detroit. sorry man, but being from detroit really does lessen your argument for the intelligence of someone based on location.
the other cent: i feel like you all are all nitpicking stickys statement way to much. 1, I agree that in the majority southerners are not as "intelligent". its hard to find the words to use, because there are obviously people all over the south that got perfect scores on their ACT, but they can still be idiots. also obviously there are idiots everywhere, but i think there are more idiots by percentage in the south. I live in KY but I have also lived in mississippi and alabama. MS and AL are two of the "dumbest" states in the country based on education in K-12th grade.
sticky isn't an idiot, I think he knows that there are smart and dumb people everywhere. he made an extreme statement but we all know he didn't mean it 100% literally.
I guess the point of all this is: I agree that the south seems dumber by percentage, and its ridiculous that you all jumped all over this guy when you knew he wasn't picking out all of us southerners in particular.
and btw, I would consider Louisville the midwest. maybe not geographically, but certainly culturally.
Quote
I guess the point of all this is: I agree that the south seems dumber by percentage, and its ridiculous that you all jumped all over this guy when you knew he wasn't picking out all of us southerners in particular.
thats pretty much was what I was trying to say last night when tracy threw a grenade in sticky's politics bunker.
and while not dumb, the highly religious of the south are the worst voters IMO because they dont vote based on candidates, no matter how good or bad 1 or the other might be, they just vote GOP because its "right"
QuoteQuote
I guess the point of all this is: I agree that the south seems dumber by percentage, and its ridiculous that you all jumped all over this guy when you knew he wasn't picking out all of us southerners in particular.
thats pretty much was what I was trying to say last night when tracy threw a grenade in sticky's politics bunker.
and while not dumb, the highly religious of the south are the worst voters IMO because they dont vote based on candidates, no matter how good or bad 1 or the other might be, they just vote GOP because its "right"
I fully agree with this...and I would concider these people to be idiots. They are dumb sheep that will believe whatever their shepard tells them...
What I hate is when I opened my paper this morning, all I see is one big map of the US colored with Red and Blue states. It creates a general image of certain areas. Even the "reddest" state is probably 55% to 45%. But yet we lump the whole state in with one color or another. Life is not so black and white. (Or Red and Blue.) Life is purple.
QuoteI'm gonna throw my 2 cents in here....
1 cent: I didn't know that sticky was from detroit. sorry man, but being from detroit really does lessen your argument for the intelligence of someone based on location.
the other cent: i feel like you all are all nitpicking stickys statement way to much. 1, I agree that in the majority southerners are not as "intelligent". its hard to find the words to use, because there are obviously people all over the south that got perfect scores on their ACT, but they can still be idiots. also obviously there are idiots everywhere, but i think there are more idiots by percentage in the south. I live in KY but I have also lived in mississippi and alabama. MS and AL are two of the "dumbest" states in the country based on education in K-12th grade.
sticky isn't an idiot, I think he knows that there are smart and dumb people everywhere. he made an extreme statement but we all know he didn't mean it 100% literally.
I guess the point of all this is: I agree that the south seems dumber by percentage, and its ridiculous that you all jumped all over this guy when you knew he wasn't picking out all of us southerners in particular.
and btw, I would consider Louisville the midwest. maybe not geographically, but certainly culturally.
southerners are not as intelligent as what...sometimes this forum REALLY shows its colors. In this case I'll color some of you fuckers stupid. I grew up in the south and the most racism I EVER encountered was in New York. Talk about a segregated group of people...It REALLY makes my blood boil to be stereotyped by a group of BIGOTS >:(. I really thought this was an open minded group of people with diverse backgrounds. The more I get to "know" the people on the board. the less I like the board. It saddens me to think how much this board has changed since the 6 years I've been a member....If THIS is how people REALLY think on this board then I don't think I want to be a part of it any longer. Sticky, is it that hard realize that you put your foot in your mouth ?
Come on guy, I thought you were better than that :(
QuoteQuoteI'm gonna throw my 2 cents in here....
1 cent: I didn't know that sticky was from detroit. sorry man, but being from detroit really does lessen your argument for the intelligence of someone based on location.
the other cent: i feel like you all are all nitpicking stickys statement way to much. 1, I agree that in the majority southerners are not as "intelligent". its hard to find the words to use, because there are obviously people all over the south that got perfect scores on their ACT, but they can still be idiots. also obviously there are idiots everywhere, but i think there are more idiots by percentage in the south. I live in KY but I have also lived in mississippi and alabama. MS and AL are two of the "dumbest" states in the country based on education in K-12th grade.
sticky isn't an idiot, I think he knows that there are smart and dumb people everywhere. he made an extreme statement but we all know he didn't mean it 100% literally.
I guess the point of all this is: I agree that the south seems dumber by percentage, and its ridiculous that you all jumped all over this guy when you knew he wasn't picking out all of us southerners in particular.
and btw, I would consider Louisville the midwest. maybe not geographically, but certainly culturally.
southerners are not as intelligent as what...sometimes this forum REALLY shows its colors. In this case I'll color some of you fuckers stupid. I grew up in the south and the most racism I EVER encountered was in New York. Talk about a segregated group of people...It REALLY makes my blood boil to be stereotyped by a group of BIGOTS >:(. I really thought this was an open minded group of people with diverse backgrounds. The more I get to "know" the people on the board. the less I like the board. It saddens me to think how much this board has changed since the 6 years I've been a member....If THIS is how people REALLY think on this board then I don't think I want to be a part of it any longer. Sticky, is it that hard realize that you put your foot in your mouth ?
Come on guy, I thought you were better than that :(
I think you might be the one that is a little too heated. I never called anyone in here an idiot, racist, or anything else you're getting at. I haven't offended anyone, and have said that there are obviously smart people everywhere. I even threw the phrase "by percentage" in there, to reassure that idiots and smart people are everywhere. You're the only one directly attacking anyone. You're calling all us bigots, I think. So just because a few of us are saying whats true (southerners are percentage wise not as intelligent or worse voters than northern/westerners) we aren't open-minded? You don't want to know us? You assume you don't like us? This is how we REALLY think. You're the one just put your foot in your mouth, and you sound like a ill tempered 16 year old.
If we're having the education argument, (based on best educated INDEX) New York is the 10th highest educated state, and the highest southern state is SC ranking in at 29. KY is 35, AL is 43, and MS is 49, just to name a few.
Quote I can't believe you guys are being so defensive about such an obvious truth. the south generally sucks. alabama blows, kentucky is full of lunatic racists, mississippi, missouri, the rest of the bible belt.
there might be smart rational people out there but they didn't come out to vote this cycle.
So what's Michigan's excuse for going Red for the House and Governor? An influx of dumb ass southerners?
And I'd bet a small fortune that you didn't even vote. Hell, you probably can't even tell me who's president. ;D
QuoteQuoteQuoteI'm gonna throw my 2 cents in here....
1 cent: I didn't know that sticky was from detroit. sorry man, but being from detroit really does lessen your argument for the intelligence of someone based on location.
the other cent: i feel like you all are all nitpicking stickys statement way to much. 1, I agree that in the majority southerners are not as "intelligent". its hard to find the words to use, because there are obviously people all over the south that got perfect scores on their ACT, but they can still be idiots. also obviously there are idiots everywhere, but i think there are more idiots by percentage in the south. I live in KY but I have also lived in mississippi and alabama. MS and AL are two of the "dumbest" states in the country based on education in K-12th grade.
sticky isn't an idiot, I think he knows that there are smart and dumb people everywhere. he made an extreme statement but we all know he didn't mean it 100% literally.
I guess the point of all this is: I agree that the south seems dumber by percentage, and its ridiculous that you all jumped all over this guy when you knew he wasn't picking out all of us southerners in particular.
and btw, I would consider Louisville the midwest. maybe not geographically, but certainly culturally.
southerners are not as intelligent as what...sometimes this forum REALLY shows its colors. In this case I'll color some of you fuckers stupid. I grew up in the south and the most racism I EVER encountered was in New York. Talk about a segregated group of people...It REALLY makes my blood boil to be stereotyped by a group of BIGOTS >:(. I really thought this was an open minded group of people with diverse backgrounds. The more I get to "know" the people on the board. the less I like the board. It saddens me to think how much this board has changed since the 6 years I've been a member....If THIS is how people REALLY think on this board then I don't think I want to be a part of it any longer. Sticky, is it that hard realize that you put your foot in your mouth ?
Come on guy, I thought you were better than that :(
I think you might be the one that is a little too heated. I never called anyone in here an idiot, racist, or anything else you're getting at. I haven't offended anyone, and have said that there are obviously smart people everywhere. I even threw the phrase "by percentage" in there, to reassure that idiots and smart people are everywhere. You're the only one directly attacking anyone. You're calling all us bigots, I think. So just because a few of us are saying whats true (southerners are percentage wise not as intelligent or worse voters than northern/westerners) we aren't open-minded? You don't want to know us? You assume you don't like us? This is how we REALLY think. You're the one just put your foot in your mouth, and you sound like a ill tempered 16 year old.
If we're having the education argument, (based on best educated INDEX) New York is the 10th highest educated state, and the highest southern state is SC ranking in at 29. KY is 35, AL is 43, and MS is 49, just to name a few.
I have found barefoot, high school drop outs more fun to be around than over-educated, elitist pricks ;) Plus, I am pretty sure no one in the band has a college degree. So, by your standards e-wind, the boys are dumb. Nice...
I mean, this is a rock n' roll board for a rock n' roll band, not a fucking country club. We tend to have a better time in the south, don't we?
QuoteWhat I hate is when I opened my paper this morning, all I see is one big map of the US colored with Red and Blue states. It creates a general image of certain areas. Even the "reddest" state is probably 55% to 45%. But yet we lump the whole state in with one color or another. Life is not so black and white. (Or Red and Blue.) Life is purple.
8-)
QuoteWhat I hate is when I opened my paper this morning, all I see is one big map of the US colored with Red and Blue states. It creates a general image of certain areas. Even the "reddest" state is probably 55% to 45%. But yet we lump the whole state in with one color or another. Life is not so black and white. (Or Red and Blue.) Life is purple.
Is this Berminal Code? Does this have something to do with the Cubs and the Cardinals?
Let's face it - the south being uneducated has been an issue for going on 200 years now, at least the deep south. However, if education = intelligence, this nation would be in much better shape.
Yet despite having some of the largest and well-respected universities in the nation, Michigan can't make economic policy work if its life depended on it. It let a once-great city fall into ruins at the hands of man, not nature (Nawlins was decimated by nature and still fares better)
And here in the elitist north east, in Western NJ we have a serious Klan problem and perennial swastika painting of synogogues
Lesson?
People suck all over
QuoteWhat I hate is when I opened my paper this morning, all I see is one big map of the US colored with Red and Blue states. It creates a general image of certain areas. Even the "reddest" state is probably 55% to 45%. But yet we lump the whole state in with one color or another. Life is not so black and white. (Or Red and Blue.) Life is purple.
I don't know, the state I live in feels pretty fucking red.
QuoteQuoteWhat I hate is when I opened my paper this morning, all I see is one big map of the US colored with Red and Blue states. It creates a general image of certain areas. Even the "reddest" state is probably 55% to 45%. But yet we lump the whole state in with one color or another. Life is not so black and white. (Or Red and Blue.) Life is purple.
Is this Berminal Code? Does this have something to do with the Cubs and the Cardinals?
Well of course red dominates in that scenario. It's the exception that proves the rule. ;)
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI'm gonna throw my 2 cents in here....
1 cent: I didn't know that sticky was from detroit. sorry man, but being from detroit really does lessen your argument for the intelligence of someone based on location.
the other cent: i feel like you all are all nitpicking stickys statement way to much. 1, I agree that in the majority southerners are not as "intelligent". its hard to find the words to use, because there are obviously people all over the south that got perfect scores on their ACT, but they can still be idiots. also obviously there are idiots everywhere, but i think there are more idiots by percentage in the south. I live in KY but I have also lived in mississippi and alabama. MS and AL are two of the "dumbest" states in the country based on education in K-12th grade.
sticky isn't an idiot, I think he knows that there are smart and dumb people everywhere. he made an extreme statement but we all know he didn't mean it 100% literally.
I guess the point of all this is: I agree that the south seems dumber by percentage, and its ridiculous that you all jumped all over this guy when you knew he wasn't picking out all of us southerners in particular.
and btw, I would consider Louisville the midwest. maybe not geographically, but certainly culturally.
southerners are not as intelligent as what...sometimes this forum REALLY shows its colors. In this case I'll color some of you fuckers stupid. I grew up in the south and the most racism I EVER encountered was in New York. Talk about a segregated group of people...It REALLY makes my blood boil to be stereotyped by a group of BIGOTS >:(. I really thought this was an open minded group of people with diverse backgrounds. The more I get to "know" the people on the board. the less I like the board. It saddens me to think how much this board has changed since the 6 years I've been a member....If THIS is how people REALLY think on this board then I don't think I want to be a part of it any longer. Sticky, is it that hard realize that you put your foot in your mouth ?
Come on guy, I thought you were better than that :(
I think you might be the one that is a little too heated. I never called anyone in here an idiot, racist, or anything else you're getting at. I haven't offended anyone, and have said that there are obviously smart people everywhere. I even threw the phrase "by percentage" in there, to reassure that idiots and smart people are everywhere. You're the only one directly attacking anyone. You're calling all us bigots, I think. So just because a few of us are saying whats true (southerners are percentage wise not as intelligent or worse voters than northern/westerners) we aren't open-minded? You don't want to know us? You assume you don't like us? This is how we REALLY think. You're the one just put your foot in your mouth, and you sound like a ill tempered 16 year old.
If we're having the education argument, (based on best educated INDEX) New York is the 10th highest educated state, and the highest southern state is SC ranking in at 29. KY is 35, AL is 43, and MS is 49, just to name a few.
I have found barefoot, high school drop outs more fun to be around than over-educated, elitist pricks ;) Plus, I am pretty sure no one in the band has a college degree. So, by your standards e-wind, the boys are dumb. Nice...
I mean, this is a rock n' roll board for a rock n' roll band, not a fucking country club. We tend to have a better time in the south, don't we?
So your argument is that since we like rock n roll we shouldn't worry about being dumb and electing someone like Rand Paul. And notice I said "IF were having the education argument..."
Well, this whole thread is just silly. California obviously has the most idiots of any state. We've got a meth epidemic that puts the whole South's shame, and our public schools always rank in the bottom 10% nationally. PLUS, we just blew it on legalizing weed, AND we elected a totally old guy who was governor already, like, 50 years ago and they called him 'Moonbeam' back then. Some people probably still will. Call him that. Moonbeam.
Whatever...the Giants won the World Series. 8-)
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI'm gonna throw my 2 cents in here....
1 cent: I didn't know that sticky was from detroit. sorry man, but being from detroit really does lessen your argument for the intelligence of someone based on location.
the other cent: i feel like you all are all nitpicking stickys statement way to much. 1, I agree that in the majority southerners are not as "intelligent". its hard to find the words to use, because there are obviously people all over the south that got perfect scores on their ACT, but they can still be idiots. also obviously there are idiots everywhere, but i think there are more idiots by percentage in the south. I live in KY but I have also lived in mississippi and alabama. MS and AL are two of the "dumbest" states in the country based on education in K-12th grade.
sticky isn't an idiot, I think he knows that there are smart and dumb people everywhere. he made an extreme statement but we all know he didn't mean it 100% literally.
I guess the point of all this is: I agree that the south seems dumber by percentage, and its ridiculous that you all jumped all over this guy when you knew he wasn't picking out all of us southerners in particular.
and btw, I would consider Louisville the midwest. maybe not geographically, but certainly culturally.
southerners are not as intelligent as what...sometimes this forum REALLY shows its colors. In this case I'll color some of you fuckers stupid. I grew up in the south and the most racism I EVER encountered was in New York. Talk about a segregated group of people...It REALLY makes my blood boil to be stereotyped by a group of BIGOTS >:(. I really thought this was an open minded group of people with diverse backgrounds. The more I get to "know" the people on the board. the less I like the board. It saddens me to think how much this board has changed since the 6 years I've been a member....If THIS is how people REALLY think on this board then I don't think I want to be a part of it any longer. Sticky, is it that hard realize that you put your foot in your mouth ?
Come on guy, I thought you were better than that :(
I think you might be the one that is a little too heated. I never called anyone in here an idiot, racist, or anything else you're getting at. I haven't offended anyone, and have said that there are obviously smart people everywhere. I even threw the phrase "by percentage" in there, to reassure that idiots and smart people are everywhere. You're the only one directly attacking anyone. You're calling all us bigots, I think. So just because a few of us are saying whats true (southerners are percentage wise not as intelligent or worse voters than northern/westerners) we aren't open-minded? You don't want to know us? You assume you don't like us? This is how we REALLY think. You're the one just put your foot in your mouth, and you sound like a ill tempered 16 year old.
If we're having the education argument, (based on best educated INDEX) New York is the 10th highest educated state, and the highest southern state is SC ranking in at 29. KY is 35, AL is 43, and MS is 49, just to name a few.
I have found barefoot, high school drop outs more fun to be around than over-educated, elitist pricks ;) Plus, I am pretty sure no one in the band has a college degree. So, by your standards e-wind, the boys are dumb. Nice...
I mean, this is a rock n' roll board for a rock n' roll band, not a fucking country club. We tend to have a better time in the south, don't we?
So your argument is that since we like rock n roll we shouldn't worry about being dumb and electing someone like Rand Paul. And notice I said "IF were having the education argument..."
No.
My argument is, there's no intellectual elitism in rock n' roll. Take that shit elsewhere, perhaps to a U2 or Ted Nugent board.
Some very smart people be voted for Rand Paul last night. I'd bet you a billion dollars that some of them even be more educated, intelligent and more informed than you be. Just b/c their political beliefs don't line up with yours doesn't mean they be "dumb". Your claim that they all be "dumb" is asinine and naive.
Be think about it.
This is the stupidest argument ever.
QuoteQuoteSo, anyway. How about them election results?
When I met my first class of students, in rural Roxboro, NC, and told them I was from NH, they said I must think they're a bunch of rednecks. I said they should come to NH. We invented redneck. Stupidity, ignorance, bigotry are universal traits of the intellectually lazy, who came out in force yesterday. [highlight]Might be time to move to VT[/highlight].
The mountains are greener... ;)
Being that I now live in NC, but spent lots of time in New Hampshire over the years, I agree that the mountains up there are nice but ya, definitely more redneck.
QuoteQuote I can't believe you guys are being so defensive about such an obvious truth. the south generally sucks. alabama blows, kentucky is full of lunatic racists, mississippi, missouri, the rest of the bible belt.
there might be smart rational people out there but they didn't come out to vote this cycle.
So what's Michigan's excuse for going Red for the House and Governor? An influx of dumb ass southerners?
And I'd bet a small fortune that you didn't even vote. Hell, you probably can't even tell me who's president. ;D
Rick Snyder only agreed to 1 debate with a maximum of 3 rebuttals because he had such a large lead (2:1).
Snyder declined and refused a lot of public appearances. Because of ignorant republican support the former Gateway CEO was elected. On top of this Michigan tends to bounce back and forth between dems and repubs. He got elected because he had a lead and then went reclusive so nobody knew anything about him.
If Detroit's voter turn out was more than 13percent the dems might have had a chance, but alas poor education is responsible for that.
Our state depended on one industry to survive. When that industry collapsed it hit our state 7times harder than everywhere else, from dealerships down to people who sell parts for cars.
Detroit is made to sustain 2million people but since everyone has left the city and it only populates about 800,000people, everybody is scattered and resources are spread out too far to be efficient.
I did vote and voted straight democrat. One of the only democrats to hold their seat from my state is from Oakland County, which is where I live. Michigan's problems are far different than Kentucky's. Kentucky is still a racist state, it's undeniable. It was one of the few states who sided with McCain/Palin.
Kentucky repubs/tea baggers are idiots straight up. all they care about is repealing "obamacare" and lining the pockets of defense contractors. They bitch about government spending while they scoot around on their government paid for hoverrounds that they got through medicare. Republicans are hypocrites. They campaigned on obama's fucking message. "change".
138 tea baggers ran for a seat in congress or whatever and all of them are republicans.
you live in a world of delusion tracy, I live in a world of fact. At least you don't have to worry about your boss hiring black people anymore. ::)
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QuoteQuoteI'm gonna throw my 2 cents in here....
1 cent: I didn't know that sticky was from detroit. sorry man, but being from detroit really does lessen your argument for the intelligence of someone based on location.
the other cent: i feel like you all are all nitpicking stickys statement way to much. 1, I agree that in the majority southerners are not as "intelligent". its hard to find the words to use, because there are obviously people all over the south that got perfect scores on their ACT, but they can still be idiots. also obviously there are idiots everywhere, but i think there are more idiots by percentage in the south. I live in KY but I have also lived in mississippi and alabama. MS and AL are two of the "dumbest" states in the country based on education in K-12th grade.
sticky isn't an idiot, I think he knows that there are smart and dumb people everywhere. he made an extreme statement but we all know he didn't mean it 100% literally.
I guess the point of all this is: I agree that the south seems dumber by percentage, and its ridiculous that you all jumped all over this guy when you knew he wasn't picking out all of us southerners in particular.
and btw, I would consider Louisville the midwest. maybe not geographically, but certainly culturally.
southerners are not as intelligent as what...sometimes this forum REALLY shows its colors. In this case I'll color some of you fuckers stupid. I grew up in the south and the most racism I EVER encountered was in New York. Talk about a segregated group of people...It REALLY makes my blood boil to be stereotyped by a group of BIGOTS >:(. I really thought this was an open minded group of people with diverse backgrounds. The more I get to "know" the people on the board. the less I like the board. It saddens me to think how much this board has changed since the 6 years I've been a member....If THIS is how people REALLY think on this board then I don't think I want to be a part of it any longer. Sticky, is it that hard realize that you put your foot in your mouth ?
Come on guy, I thought you were better than that :(
sorry you disagree big chicken, but that's how politics go, we don't have to agree on everything. I have high regard for the members of this forum, it's unfortunate when certain people re-direct the conversation and make it personal. Just because I think Rand Paul is a dbag doesn't mean I think you or any or member here is.
It's unfortunate but this argument reminds me of a thread from a different messageboard where people insisted racism no longer existed after obama was elected in 08. at the core of it 90percent of republicans who voted were white this year.
here are the fucking stats straight from NPR that I posted earlier:
http://npr.tumblr.com/post/1466599920/profile-of-the-republican-voter
if that doesn't paint a picture of my point I don't know what will. I think everybody here is awesome, if tracy ever starts bitching at me and you doubt this, talk to me about it. I love you guys.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI'm gonna throw my 2 cents in here....
1 cent: I didn't know that sticky was from detroit. sorry man, but being from detroit really does lessen your argument for the intelligence of someone based on location.
the other cent: i feel like you all are all nitpicking stickys statement way to much. 1, I agree that in the majority southerners are not as "intelligent". its hard to find the words to use, because there are obviously people all over the south that got perfect scores on their ACT, but they can still be idiots. also obviously there are idiots everywhere, but i think there are more idiots by percentage in the south. I live in KY but I have also lived in mississippi and alabama. MS and AL are two of the "dumbest" states in the country based on education in K-12th grade.
sticky isn't an idiot, I think he knows that there are smart and dumb people everywhere. he made an extreme statement but we all know he didn't mean it 100% literally.
I guess the point of all this is: I agree that the south seems dumber by percentage, and its ridiculous that you all jumped all over this guy when you knew he wasn't picking out all of us southerners in particular.
and btw, I would consider Louisville the midwest. maybe not geographically, but certainly culturally.
southerners are not as intelligent as what...sometimes this forum REALLY shows its colors. In this case I'll color some of you fuckers stupid. I grew up in the south and the most racism I EVER encountered was in New York. Talk about a segregated group of people...It REALLY makes my blood boil to be stereotyped by a group of BIGOTS >:(. I really thought this was an open minded group of people with diverse backgrounds. The more I get to "know" the people on the board. the less I like the board. It saddens me to think how much this board has changed since the 6 years I've been a member....If THIS is how people REALLY think on this board then I don't think I want to be a part of it any longer. Sticky, is it that hard realize that you put your foot in your mouth ?
Come on guy, I thought you were better than that :(
I think you might be the one that is a little too heated. I never called anyone in here an idiot, racist, or anything else you're getting at. I haven't offended anyone, and have said that there are obviously smart people everywhere. I even threw the phrase "by percentage" in there, to reassure that idiots and smart people are everywhere. You're the only one directly attacking anyone. You're calling all us bigots, I think. So just because a few of us are saying whats true (southerners are percentage wise not as intelligent or worse voters than northern/westerners) we aren't open-minded? You don't want to know us? You assume you don't like us? This is how we REALLY think. You're the one just put your foot in your mouth, and you sound like a ill tempered 16 year old.
If we're having the education argument, (based on best educated INDEX) New York is the 10th highest educated state, and the highest southern state is SC ranking in at 29. KY is 35, AL is 43, and MS is 49, just to name a few.
I have found barefoot, high school drop outs more fun to be around than over-educated, elitist pricks ;) Plus, I am pretty sure no one in the band has a college degree. So, by your standards e-wind, the boys are dumb. Nice...
I mean, this is a rock n' roll board for a rock n' roll band, not a fucking country club. We tend to have a better time in the south, don't we?
So your argument is that since we like rock n roll we shouldn't worry about being dumb and electing someone like Rand Paul. And notice I said "IF were having the education argument..."
No.
My argument is, there's no intellectual elitism in rock n' roll. Take that shit elsewhere, perhaps to a U2 or Ted Nugent board.
Some very smart people be voted for Rand Paul last night. I'd bet you a billion dollars that some of them even be more educated, intelligent and more informed than you be. Just b/c their political beliefs don't line up with yours doesn't mean they be "dumb". Your claim that they all be "dumb" is asinine and naive.
Be think about it.
I don't disagree that educated people vote for Rand Paul last night, but (imo) anyone who can vote for a monster like that is unintelligent. And no, I never said I was the most intelligent person on Earth.
What erks me about your rock and roll argument is that I feel that myself and everyone else participating in this debate are good people and for us NOT to be able to have this debate would be ridiculous. I enjoy this board and EVERY person on it, and no one should be afraid of a little political disagreement. I am certainly not going to leave this conversation disliking any body or thinking slightly negatively about anybody, and I hope that everyone is in the same boat. And I am agreeing with certain people that the South as a whole (see how I said "as a whole," what I'm trying to say is that a higher percentage than other regions) has lower educated population with beliefs/opinions that I think are just down right dumb (again, I say not all, but a higher percentage). It is perfectly fine to for me to think that, but it isn't perfectly fine for you to act like I'm being so damn extreme. I'm not.
QuoteQuoteQuoteI'm gonna throw my 2 cents in here....
1 cent: I didn't know that sticky was from detroit. sorry man, but being from detroit really does lessen your argument for the intelligence of someone based on location.
the other cent: i feel like you all are all nitpicking stickys statement way to much. 1, I agree that in the majority southerners are not as "intelligent". its hard to find the words to use, because there are obviously people all over the south that got perfect scores on their ACT, but they can still be idiots. also obviously there are idiots everywhere, but i think there are more idiots by percentage in the south. I live in KY but I have also lived in mississippi and alabama. MS and AL are two of the "dumbest" states in the country based on education in K-12th grade.
sticky isn't an idiot, I think he knows that there are smart and dumb people everywhere. he made an extreme statement but we all know he didn't mean it 100% literally.
I guess the point of all this is: I agree that the south seems dumber by percentage, and its ridiculous that you all jumped all over this guy when you knew he wasn't picking out all of us southerners in particular.
and btw, I would consider Louisville the midwest. maybe not geographically, but certainly culturally.
southerners are not as intelligent as what...sometimes this forum REALLY shows its colors. In this case I'll color some of you fuckers stupid. I grew up in the south and the most racism I EVER encountered was in New York. Talk about a segregated group of people...It REALLY makes my blood boil to be stereotyped by a group of BIGOTS >:(. I really thought this was an open minded group of people with diverse backgrounds. The more I get to "know" the people on the board. the less I like the board. It saddens me to think how much this board has changed since the 6 years I've been a member....If THIS is how people REALLY think on this board then I don't think I want to be a part of it any longer. Sticky, is it that hard realize that you put your foot in your mouth ?
Come on guy, I thought you were better than that :(
sorry you disagree big chicken, but that's how politics go, we don't have to agree on everything. I have high regard for the members of this forum, it's unfortunate when certain people re-direct the conversation and make it personal. Just because I think Rand Paul is a dbag doesn't mean I think you or any or member here is.
It's unfortunate but this argument reminds me of a thread from a different messageboard where people insisted racism no longer existed after obama was elected in 08. at the core of it 90percent of republicans who voted were white this year.
here are the fucking stats straight from NPR that I posted earlier:
http://npr.tumblr.com/post/1466599920/profile-of-the-republican-voter
if that doesn't paint a picture of my point I don't know what will. I think everybody here is awesome, if tracy ever starts bitching at me and you doubt this, talk to me about it. I love you guys.
Right on SIGS...this forum is agreat place full of wonderful people, and it's natural for us not to agree on everything...as long as we agree the MMJ rocks.
Back to the message at hand...I am so sick of old white people running this country...I also don't understand why there isn't a spending cap on people running for elections.
QuoteWell, this whole thread is just silly. California obviously has the most idiots of any state. We've got a meth epidemic that puts the whole South's shame, and our public schools always rank in the bottom 10% nationally. PLUS, we just blew it on legalizing weed, AND we elected a totally old guy who was governor already, like, 50 years ago and they called him 'Moonbeam' back then. Some people probably still will. Call him that. Moonbeam.
Whatever...the Giants won the World Series. 8-)
i agree, bbill
seems like the election out there was the lesser of evils (moonbeam)
QuoteQuoteWell, this whole thread is just silly. California obviously has the most idiots of any state. We've got a meth epidemic that puts the whole South's shame, and our public schools always rank in the bottom 10% nationally. PLUS, we just blew it on legalizing weed, AND we elected a totally old guy who was governor already, like, 50 years ago and they called him 'Moonbeam' back then. Some people probably still will. Call him that. Moonbeam.
Whatever...the Giants won the World Series. 8-)
i agree, bbill
seems like the election out there was the lesser of evils (moonbeam)
Jerry Brown is a smart guy and a good politician. I can remember feverishly supporting him during the '92, before Clinton got the nod. I was heartbroken, go Moonbeam!
QuoteQuoteQuoteWell, this whole thread is just silly. California obviously has the most idiots of any state. We've got a meth epidemic that puts the whole South's shame, and our public schools always rank in the bottom 10% nationally. PLUS, we just blew it on legalizing weed, AND we elected a totally old guy who was governor already, like, 50 years ago and they called him 'Moonbeam' back then. Some people probably still will. Call him that. Moonbeam.
Whatever...the Giants won the World Series. 8-)
i agree, bbill
seems like the election out there was the lesser of evils (moonbeam)
Jerry Brown is a smart guy and a good politician. I can remember feverishly supporting him during the '92, before Clinton got the nod. I was heartbroken, go Moonbeam!
Sounds like my drink of choice
Quote
you live in a world of delusion tracy, I live in a world of fact. At least you don't have to worry about your boss hiring black people anymore. ::)
What does this even mean?
Quote Kentucky is still a racist state, it's undeniable. It was one of the few states who sided with McCain/Palin.
Few states? When you say "few", do you mean 44% of the United States that went for McCain and Palin? That's 22 states:
Alabama
Arizona
Alaska
Arkansas
Georgia
Idaho
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisiana
Mississippi
Missouri
Montana
Nebraska
North Dakota
Oklahoma
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
West Virginia
Wyoming
Nice "facts"
QuoteQuote Kentucky is still a racist state, it's undeniable. It was one of the few states who sided with McCain/Palin.
Few states? When you say "few", do you mean 44% of the United States that went for McCain and Palin? That's 22 states:
Alabama
Arizona
Alaska
Arkansas
Georgia
Idaho
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisiana
Mississippi
Missouri
Montana
Nebraska
North Dakota
Oklahoma
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
West Virginia
Wyoming
Nice "facts"
your facts are pretty vague.
My final thought on this > I don't support the following language here:
it blows that most southerns are fucking idiots.
Florida is southern as fuck and stupid as fuck, but it's because of old people.
the south generally sucks. alabama blows, kentucky is full of lunatic racists, mississippi, missouri, the rest of the bible belt.
I'll speak up when I read this garbage and I don't apologize. Sticky has every right to say it and I have every right to ask him to be a little more civil. I am naive enough (or stupid enough) to think that one day he'll see where I am coming from and he'll see how ignorant his statements make him look.
(I really have to explain this? :-/)
QuoteQuote
you live in a world of delusion tracy, I live in a world of fact. At least you don't have to worry about your boss hiring black people anymore. ::)
What does this even mean?
what doesn't it mean?
QuoteMy final thought on this > I don't support the following language here:
it blows that most southerns are fucking idiots.
Florida is southern as fuck and stupid as fuck, but it's because of old people.
the south generally sucks. alabama blows, kentucky is full of lunatic racists, mississippi, missouri, the rest of the bible belt.
I'll speak up when I read this garbage and I don't apologize. Sticky has every right to say it and I have every right to ask him to be a little more civil. I am naive enough (or stupid enough) to think that one day he'll see where I am coming from and he'll see how ignorant his statements make him look.
(I really have to explain this? :-/)
You're so abrasive and disrespectful that it makes it nearly impossible to be civil with you. what you want is for me to conform to your ideas of what is respectable. and that idea can suck my proverbial dick. You think you own this place because you've been here for a few years longer than me. suck on my civility with your naive little mouth.
thanks for leaving out the context of my statements too by the way. ::)
I'm Yankee as fuck, but those statements rubbed me the wrong way too. It's counterproductive at best to just write off a whole region of the country as "stupid".
Tracy's fat and Sticky smells... :P
Don't you know how stupid this...blue and red don't make purple...they make a dumb-ass-elephant!
QuoteI'm Yankee as fuck, but those statements rubbed me the wrong way too. It's counterproductive at best to just write off a whole region of the country as "stupid".
but I don't think the entire population is stupid. I just think the people motivated this time around are the crazy one's. in 06 and 08 it was the dems that were cocky now it's the repubs/tea baggers. I'm a radical liberal it shouldn't be surprising how I react to some of this shit. you are the voice of reason alady so I shall concede from this argument with tracy... until he starts it up again..
QuoteTracy's fat and Sticky smells... :P
Don't you know how stupid this...blue and red don't make purple...they make a dumb-ass-elephant!
fair enough. as long as it's on record that tracy's fat I'm cool with it.
Cmon guys, over 4 pages of this redundant stuff? Where's the love?
QuoteCmon guys, over 4 pages of this redundant stuff? Where's the love?
tracy ate it.
QuoteQuoteHowever. Good-bye Christine O'Donnell. Get on your broom and fly directly into the sun you horrible excuse for a woman.
The only good thing she gave me was this hilarious picture I took at the rally last Saturday.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4086/5140934657_b652c9ff04.jpg)
glad christine went down. rand paul is a different kind of beast altogether. the dude is a loon. wouldn't even apologize for his followers stomping that lady who was protesting at one of his rallies or whatever.
it blows that most southerns are fucking idiots. (no offense to anyone here, I'm speaking more about the hicks and meth heads).
HOW the frig is Rand Paul responsible for other people's over-reaction?!? I'm sick and tired of people looking at the left one way and the right the complete opposite way. Barney Frank was present when his fudgepacking partner was busted for pot possession and cultivation yet he sails merrily along (same said partner was out harrassing his latest opponent for the congressional seat, the toad managed to hold onto, to purposely try to get a rise out of him), but a supporter of a conservative defending their guy from a potential loon threat? Holy crap! Call out the army, air force, and marines.
I'm ecstatic Rand Paul is in, John Boehner is going to be speaker (mostly cuz we don't have to listen to the idiotic drivelling of Bela "I Vant To Suck Your Wallet" Pelosi anymore), Marco Rubio is in charge, and the good old "Live Free or Die" state is back to it's Yankee Conservative roots. I just wish the idiots in Massholechusetts would catch the same clue me and close to half the rest of the state has and thrown out Patrick, Frank, Coakley, Moore etc. Hell, these zombies didn't even want to cut themselves a break on the sales tax--from 6.25% down to 3%!!!!!!!!! Jeez if a few more had given it an extra second's thought they might have realized that the lower rate would draw more of our neighbors in higher rate states in resulting in no net revenue loss. Oh well at least the foliage is nice ::)
Quotehttp://npr.tumblr.com/post/1466599920/profile-of-the-republican-voter
Another short sighted small minded post
QuoteQuotehttp://npr.tumblr.com/post/1466599920/profile-of-the-republican-voter
Another short sighted small minded post
I'll respond to your other post in a minute. but I do not believe I'm being small minded at all. if anything I'm giving everybody here the benefit of the doubt that they know their shit. I haven't talked down to a single person with exception to tracy. anything else is exaggeration. now for the fun one.
QuoteQuoteQuoteHowever. Good-bye Christine O'Donnell. Get on your broom and fly directly into the sun you horrible excuse for a woman.
The only good thing she gave me was this hilarious picture I took at the rally last Saturday.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4086/5140934657_b652c9ff04.jpg)
glad christine went down. rand paul is a different kind of beast altogether. the dude is a loon. wouldn't even apologize for his followers stomping that lady who was protesting at one of his rallies or whatever.
it blows that most southerns are fucking idiots. (no offense to anyone here, I'm speaking more about the hicks and meth heads).
HOW the frig is Rand Paul responsible for other people's over-reaction?!? I'm sick and tired of people looking at the left one way and the right the complete opposite way. Barney Frank was present when his fudgepacking partner was busted for pot possession and cultivation yet he sails merrily along (same said partner was out harrassing his latest opponent for the congressional seat, the toad managed to hold onto, to purposely try to get a rise out of him), but a supporter of a conservative defending their guy from a potential loon threat? Holy crap! Call out the army, air force, and marines.
I'm ecstatic Rand Paul is in, John Boehner is going to be speaker (mostly cuz we don't have to listen to the idiotic drivelling of Bela "I Vant To Suck Your Wallet" Pelosi anymore), Marco Rubio is in charge, and the good old "Live Free or Die" state is back to it's Yankee Conservative roots. I just wish the idiots in Massholechusetts would catch the same clue me and close to half the rest of the state has and thrown out Patrick, Frank, Coakley, Moore etc. Hell, these zombies didn't even want to cut themselves a break on the sales tax--from 6.25% down to 3%!!!!!!!!! Jeez if a few more had given it an extra second's thought they might have realized that the lower rate would draw more of our neighbors in higher rate states in resulting in no net revenue loss. Oh well at least the foliage is nice ::)
the left IS different than the right first of all. they are not both mostly moderates now either. the libs have gotten pulled towards the center because of people like Rand and his Tea Party friends on the right.
Boehner, McConnell, Canter, Rand Paul, and god knows who else have horrible ideas about what needs to be done. I'm not even sure if they have an honest solution other than to try and repeal stuff. or try to pass stuff they know obama will veto so they can run on that in 2012. whatever hypothetical it may be the psychos are pretty much ALWAYS on the right. you don't see some flower toting hippy stomping on a woman. you don't see libs throwing money at protests with terminal diseases who are asking for government help, any help really. you don't see them giving a fuck about a lot of the stupid ass shit conservatives care about and it's awesome. unfortunately people have already forgotten how horrible republican policy is.
8years, 2 wars and our economy collapse. new guys get hired and 18months later you want it fixed, they don't fix it so you go back to the people who fucked everything up in the first place. why? I have no fucking idea dude. It's seriously a paradox.
If it's about jobs repubs aren't worried about that. Mitch McConnell "my number one job is to make sure obama is a one term president". What the fuck is that shit? That's what you voted for? Rand Paul is going to be loud, he's an obstructionist.
QuoteQuote
I guess the point of all this is: I agree that the south seems dumber by percentage, and its ridiculous that you all jumped all over this guy when you knew he wasn't picking out all of us southerners in particular.
thats pretty much was what I was trying to say last night when tracy threw a grenade in sticky's politics bunker.
and while not dumb, the highly religious of the south are the worst voters IMO because they dont vote based on candidates, no matter how good or bad 1 or the other might be, they just vote GOP because its "right"
That's funny I could say the exact same thing about my fellow MA voters--no matter how useless/crappy/indictable/corrupt their blessed dumocrat incumbent is they're gonna vote for 'em becuz they gutta have them a democrat--cuz their folks want a democrat and their folks before them wanted a democrat and so on and so on. So much for brainiacs in a state with some of the "best higher education" (also the most slanted)
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteHowever. Good-bye Christine O'Donnell. Get on your broom and fly directly into the sun you horrible excuse for a woman.
The only good thing she gave me was this hilarious picture I took at the rally last Saturday.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4086/5140934657_b652c9ff04.jpg)
glad christine went down. rand paul is a different kind of beast altogether. the dude is a loon. wouldn't even apologize for his followers stomping that lady who was protesting at one of his rallies or whatever.
it blows that most southerns are fucking idiots. (no offense to anyone here, I'm speaking more about the hicks and meth heads).
HOW the frig is Rand Paul responsible for other people's over-reaction?!? I'm sick and tired of people looking at the left one way and the right the complete opposite way. Barney Frank was present when his fudgepacking partner was busted for pot possession and cultivation yet he sails merrily along (same said partner was out harrassing his latest opponent for the congressional seat, the toad managed to hold onto, to purposely try to get a rise out of him), but a supporter of a conservative defending their guy from a potential loon threat? Holy crap! Call out the army, air force, and marines.
I'm ecstatic Rand Paul is in, John Boehner is going to be speaker (mostly cuz we don't have to listen to the idiotic drivelling of Bela "I Vant To Suck Your Wallet" Pelosi anymore), Marco Rubio is in charge, and the good old "Live Free or Die" state is back to it's Yankee Conservative roots. I just wish the idiots in Massholechusetts would catch the same clue me and close to half the rest of the state has and thrown out Patrick, Frank, Coakley, Moore etc. Hell, these zombies didn't even want to cut themselves a break on the sales tax--from 6.25% down to 3%!!!!!!!!! Jeez if a few more had given it an extra second's thought they might have realized that the lower rate would draw more of our neighbors in higher rate states in resulting in no net revenue loss. Oh well at least the foliage is nice ::)
the left IS different than the right first of all. they are not both mostly moderates now either. the libs have gotten pulled towards the center because of people like Rand and his Tea Party friends on the right.
Boehner, McConnell, Canter, Rand Paul, and god knows who else have horrible ideas about what needs to be done. I'm not even sure if they have an honest solution other than to try and repeal stuff. or try to pass stuff they know obama will veto so they can run on that in 2012. whatever hypothetical it may be the psychos are pretty much ALWAYS on the right. you don't see some flower toting hippy stomping on a woman. you don't see libs throwing money at protests with terminal diseases who are asking for government help, any help really. you don't see them giving a fuck about a lot of the stupid ass shit conservatives care about and it's awesome. unfortunately people have already forgotten how horrible republican policy is.
8years, 2 wars and our economy collapse. new guys get hired and 18months later you want it fixed, they don't fix it so you go back to the people who fucked everything up in the first place. why? I have no fucking idea dude. It's seriously a paradox.
If it's about jobs repubs aren't worried about that. Mitch McConnell "my number one job is to make sure obama is a one term president". What the fuck is that shit? That's what you voted for? Rand Paul is going to be loud, he's an obstructionist.
How conveniently you fail to address how Rand Paul is even remotely responsible for the alleged incident. And even more convenient you avoid addressing the controlling party in the federal legislature during those 8 years (Dumocrat) and how they steered the economy into the ditch--mandating loans be given to the otherwise ineligible to buy votes for themselves only to have those toxic assets bundled into semi toxic assets and sold worldwide so econmies everywhere could be affected just like ours. Your really dreaming on some heavily psychotic hallucinogen if you think for one second the dems want to help anyone but themselves.
Liberals might give a person a fish but Conservatives teach them how to fish.
Rand Paul isn't responsible for his bases actions but he should have apologized or said something about how shitty it was. But he didn't. Even the guy who stomped on the lady didn't apologize. He said HE wanted an apology from her or some bullshit. It shows a lack of class for such a high official. If he's going to stir up all the crazies and get them hyper reactive he should make sure that they are at the very least peaceful to other people. I think even tracy would appreciate that.
second, the dems are responsible for the collapse? yeah right.
and if you blame TARP or whatever the fuck that's bullshit. Obama's even quoted as saying that voting for it was going to be "toxic" for his record but it was the necessary thing to do. and it was. most economist agree to that.
it comes down to spending and when you ask people like you what you want to cut spending to you don't have very good answers. ever. what about derivates and shit I thought bush/cheney & co. are straight up responsible for some skanless shit that happened on wallstreet. whatever. we disagree. I'm glad you got the person you wanted elected. It's good so many people on here voted, no matter who it was for.
I must admit SIGS youre starting to make a lot of good points, but when its you vs. tracy + GOP_Fanatic in politics talk, you might as well throw in the towel. ;)
Lose the battle, win the war.
QuoteI must admit SIGS youre starting to make a lot of good points, but when its you vs. tracy + GOP_Fanatic in politics talk, you might as well throw in the towel. ;)
Lose the battle, win the war.
yeah I'm about done anyway. I don't have much ammo left about the current congress other than emotional bs. appreciate the support when I got thrown into the ring, when the bell rang I knew you'd be there to give me some water to spit the blood into the bucket. I love you.
I wonder what the rights argument for immigration reform is?
muahah politics!
QuoteI must admit SIGS youre starting to make a lot of good points, but when its you vs. tracy + GOP_Fanatic in politics talk, you might as well throw in the towel. ;)
Lose the battle, win the war.
Hardly a GOP fanatic. Just think Conservative principles are vastly superior to priciplces that reward laziness and sloth.
I like turtles
QuoteI like turtles
turtles will fuck you up.
(http://www.dausettrails.com/snapturtle.jpg)
I like Ruckus :)
QuoteQuoteI must admit SIGS youre starting to make a lot of good points, but when its you vs. tracy + GOP_Fanatic in politics talk, you might as well throw in the towel. ;)
Lose the battle, win the war.
Hardly a GOP fanatic. Just think Conservative principles are vastly superior to priciplces that reward laziness and sloth.
Yeah, don't reward laziness and sloth, reward greed and selfishness.
Social Security for all you lazy, slothful people who worked your entire adult life. What do conservatives propose?
Medicare for all the lazy, slothful people trying to survive in retirement with meager income and a for-profit insurance system. What do conservatives propose?
Unemployment insurance so the lazy, slothful people who lose work will realize they can just sit back and suck on the government's teat. What do conservatives propose?
Public schools for the lazy, slothful children who should have their parents buy their way to a top-notch education while the lazy, slothful children of the poor get the education they can afford. What do conservatives propose?
Just as we agree not all Southerners are redneck racist retards, might we agree that government programs do not promote or produce laziness and slothfulness? Those traits already exist in certain people on both sides of the political spectrum.
And you don't help your cause regarding the stereotyping of conservatives as lacking compassion when you refer to Barney Frank's partner in such an unnecessary, gay-bashing manner.
Some folks are angered that an atmosphere exists where a supporter of any candidate can assault someone and demand an apology from the victim. Others are angered that Barney Frank likes guys.
Sad.
QuoteQuoteQuoteHowever. Good-bye Christine O'Donnell. Get on your broom and fly directly into the sun you horrible excuse for a woman.
The only good thing she gave me was this hilarious picture I took at the rally last Saturday.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4086/5140934657_b652c9ff04.jpg)
glad christine went down. rand paul is a different kind of beast altogether. the dude is a loon. wouldn't even apologize for his followers stomping that lady who was protesting at one of his rallies or whatever.
it blows that most southerns are fucking idiots. (no offense to anyone here, I'm speaking more about the hicks and meth heads).
HOW the frig is Rand Paul responsible for other people's over-reaction?!? I'm sick and tired of people looking at the left one way and the right the complete opposite way. Barney Frank was present when his [highlight]fudgepacking partner[/highlight] was busted for pot possession and cultivation yet he sails merrily along (same said partner was out harrassing his latest opponent for the congressional seat, the toad managed to hold onto, to purposely try to get a rise out of him), but a supporter of a conservative defending their guy from a potential loon threat? Holy crap! Call out the army, air force, and marines.
I'm ecstatic Rand Paul is in, John Boehner is going to be speaker (mostly cuz we don't have to listen to the idiotic drivelling of Bela "I Vant To Suck Your Wallet" Pelosi anymore), Marco Rubio is in charge, and the good old "Live Free or Die" state is back to it's Yankee Conservative roots. I just wish the idiots in Massholechusetts would catch the same clue me and close to half the rest of the state has and thrown out Patrick, Frank, Coakley, Moore etc. Hell, these zombies didn't even want to cut themselves a break on the sales tax--from 6.25% down to 3%!!!!!!!!! Jeez if a few more had given it an extra second's thought they might have realized that the lower rate would draw more of our neighbors in higher rate states in resulting in no net revenue loss. Oh well at least the foliage is nice ::)
Really Fanatic? Let's leave comments like this off the forum. I expect better than that.
I like JohnnyYYac.
It seems to me that if people could just recognize that nobody on either side actually carries the desire in their hearts to destroy America, I think things would be more civilized.
Ah, but I am a dreamer.
THIS is why i dont worry about politics much outside of local issues.. the amount of time you have to invest to stay ahead of the curve and time wasted arguing with hard headed people could be much better used loving your loved ones more or helping out in the community or practicing a hobby. i think if more people did that instead of worrying about whatever the fuck others are doing.. things would balance out a bit better overall.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteHowever. Good-bye Christine O'Donnell. Get on your broom and fly directly into the sun you horrible excuse for a woman.
The only good thing she gave me was this hilarious picture I took at the rally last Saturday.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4086/5140934657_b652c9ff04.jpg)
glad christine went down. rand paul is a different kind of beast altogether. the dude is a loon. wouldn't even apologize for his followers stomping that lady who was protesting at one of his rallies or whatever.
it blows that most southerns are fucking idiots. (no offense to anyone here, I'm speaking more about the hicks and meth heads).
HOW the frig is Rand Paul responsible for other people's over-reaction?!? I'm sick and tired of people looking at the left one way and the right the complete opposite way. Barney Frank was present when his [highlight]fudgepacking partner[/highlight] was busted for pot possession and cultivation yet he sails merrily along (same said partner was out harrassing his latest opponent for the congressional seat, the toad managed to hold onto, to purposely try to get a rise out of him), but a supporter of a conservative defending their guy from a potential loon threat? Holy crap! Call out the army, air force, and marines.
I'm ecstatic Rand Paul is in, John Boehner is going to be speaker (mostly cuz we don't have to listen to the idiotic drivelling of Bela "I Vant To Suck Your Wallet" Pelosi anymore), Marco Rubio is in charge, and the good old "Live Free or Die" state is back to it's Yankee Conservative roots. I just wish the idiots in Massholechusetts would catch the same clue me and close to half the rest of the state has and thrown out Patrick, Frank, Coakley, Moore etc. Hell, these zombies didn't even want to cut themselves a break on the sales tax--from 6.25% down to 3%!!!!!!!!! Jeez if a few more had given it an extra second's thought they might have realized that the lower rate would draw more of our neighbors in higher rate states in resulting in no net revenue loss. Oh well at least the foliage is nice ::)
Really Fanatic? Let's leave comments like this off the forum. I expect better than that.
Some people do work in fudge packing factories...how else does the fudge get packed?
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QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteHowever. Good-bye Christine O'Donnell. Get on your broom and fly directly into the sun you horrible excuse for a woman.
The only good thing she gave me was this hilarious picture I took at the rally last Saturday.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4086/5140934657_b652c9ff04.jpg)
glad christine went down. rand paul is a different kind of beast altogether. the dude is a loon. wouldn't even apologize for his followers stomping that lady who was protesting at one of his rallies or whatever.
it blows that most southerns are fucking idiots. (no offense to anyone here, I'm speaking more about the hicks and meth heads).
HOW the frig is Rand Paul responsible for other people's over-reaction?!? I'm sick and tired of people looking at the left one way and the right the complete opposite way. Barney Frank was present when his [highlight]fudgepacking partner[/highlight] was busted for pot possession and cultivation yet he sails merrily along (same said partner was out harrassing his latest opponent for the congressional seat, the toad managed to hold onto, to purposely try to get a rise out of him), but a supporter of a conservative defending their guy from a potential loon threat? Holy crap! Call out the army, air force, and marines.
I'm ecstatic Rand Paul is in, John Boehner is going to be speaker (mostly cuz we don't have to listen to the idiotic drivelling of Bela "I Vant To Suck Your Wallet" Pelosi anymore), Marco Rubio is in charge, and the good old "Live Free or Die" state is back to it's Yankee Conservative roots. I just wish the idiots in Massholechusetts would catch the same clue me and close to half the rest of the state has and thrown out Patrick, Frank, Coakley, Moore etc. Hell, these zombies didn't even want to cut themselves a break on the sales tax--from 6.25% down to 3%!!!!!!!!! Jeez if a few more had given it an extra second's thought they might have realized that the lower rate would draw more of our neighbors in higher rate states in resulting in no net revenue loss. Oh well at least the foliage is nice ::)
Really Fanatic? Let's leave comments like this off the forum. I expect better than that.
Exactly. Fanatic, you are probably the most politically informed person on this forum, yet your credibility goes completely out the window when you use terms like that. It makes it look like you have a hateful agenda and immediately makes me eliminate anything you say. And honestly, I'm sure you really don't care Sticky, but same goes for you. Do you seriously expect to make a blanket statement about southerners like that and then be surprised when someone calls you out?
Political discussions are already tense enough without making racial and insensitive remarks. If you want people to actually take you seriously (and maybe you don't) leave the jabs out and say something useful.
Just once I'd like to date a Republican. I bet they'd be freaky-deaky.
This all seems so important and all. You know like really, really cool and neato. And fudge is yummy. Superchunk has a new album that rocks and I'm gonna see them in a month.
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People that completely blow off any sort if educated/intelligent debate absolutely amaze me. If you don't have a political point of view, don't care, or just don't care to express it... just don't post. Easy as that.
QuotePeople that completely blow off any sort if educated/intelligent debate absolutely amaze me. If you don't have a political point of view, don't care, or just don't care to express it... just don't post. Easy as that.
pretty much. political threads almost need a disclaimer since there will be arguments without a doubt when it comes to some of these issues. something like "you may get bitched at hardcore, deal with it."
QuoteQuoteQuoteHowever. Good-bye Christine O'Donnell. Get on your broom and fly directly into the sun you horrible excuse for a woman.
The only good thing she gave me was this hilarious picture I took at the rally last Saturday.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4086/5140934657_b652c9ff04.jpg)
glad christine went down. rand paul is a different kind of beast altogether. the dude is a loon. wouldn't even apologize for his followers stomping that lady who was protesting at one of his rallies or whatever.
it blows that most southerns are fucking idiots. (no offense to anyone here, I'm speaking more about the hicks and meth heads).
HOW the frig is Rand Paul responsible for other people's over-reaction?!? I'm sick and tired of people looking at the left one way and the right the complete opposite way. Barney Frank was present when his fudgepacking partner was busted for pot possession and cultivation yet he sails merrily along (same said partner was out harrassing his latest opponent for the congressional seat, the toad managed to hold onto, to purposely try to get a rise out of him), but a supporter of a conservative defending their guy from a potential loon threat? Holy crap! Call out the army, air force, and marines.
I'm ecstatic Rand Paul is in, John Boehner is going to be speaker (mostly cuz we don't have to listen to the idiotic drivelling of Bela "I Vant To Suck Your Wallet" Pelosi anymore), Marco Rubio is in charge, and the good old "Live Free or Die" state is back to it's Yankee Conservative roots. I just wish the idiots in Massholechusetts would catch the same clue me and close to half the rest of the state has and thrown out Patrick, Frank, Coakley, Moore etc. Hell, these zombies didn't even want to cut themselves a break on the sales tax--from 6.25% down to 3%!!!!!!!!! Jeez if a few more had given it an extra second's thought they might have realized that the lower rate would draw more of our neighbors in higher rate states in resulting in no net revenue loss. Oh well at least the foliage is nice ::)
Fudge packer partner, thats as fucking stupid as anything thats been posted here, liberal or conservative. All your doing is reinforcing the divisive views the past six pages have contained.
Idiots in Massholechuisetts. Your ignorance is sickening.
The most affective government is one with a balance of both left & right ideas. The disappointing thing about the current attitude in Washington (and nationwide) is the mentality of our elected leaders; I currently feel that most elected officials don't give a shit about us. They are more focused on getting elected and having control. They don't realize that the solution to our current issues will take everyone working together. Right now they are distracted by their own ego. I think it's interesting how it spreads through the people, and this forum. I am not a republican or a democrat; I am an American.
I like turtles that look like Ruckus
QuoteThe most affective government is one with a balance of both left & right ideas. The disappointing thing about the current attitude in Washington (and nationwide) is the mentality of our elected leaders; I currently feel that most elected officials don't give a shit about us. They are more focused on getting elected and having control. They don't realize that the solution to our current issues will take everyone working together. Right now they are distracted by their own ego. I think it's interesting how it spreads through the people, and this forum. I am not a republican or a democrat; I am an American.
I like turtles that look like Ruckus
I agree with this -- I think each side is completely absorbed with doing whatever it takes to get and retain power for their side...which means putting way more energy into imagining what the other side would do wrong than directing those efforts into governing effectively in the present time. It's not just politicians doing this, the people do it too. It goes back to something I said earlier -- everybody thinks that people that are on the other side are out to destroy their way of life, and it precludes them from even trying to work together.
QuoteTHIS is why i dont worry about politics much outside of local issues.. the amount of time you have to invest to stay ahead of the curve and time wasted arguing with hard headed people could be much better used loving your loved ones more or helping out in the community or practicing a hobby. i think if more people did that instead of worrying about whatever the fuck others are doing.. things would balance out a bit better overall.
This is why we're friends.
QuoteThe most affective government is one with a balance of both left & right ideas. The disappointing thing about the current attitude in Washington (and nationwide) is the mentality of our elected leaders; I currently feel that most elected officials don't give a shit about us. They are more focused on getting elected and having control. They don't realize that the solution to our current issues will take everyone working together. Right now they are distracted by their own ego. I think it's interesting how it spreads through the people, and this forum. I am not a republican or a democrat; I am an American.
I like turtles that look like Ruckus
In a perfect world, this is true. This has never/will never happen in our country. Peace within is only sparked by violence from without. With that being said, my opinion will never be "I don't care as along as we agree." I have firm left wing opinions.
Back to the original idea of this thread... In a perfect world, Rand Paul would never hold power, and people would never believe someone like Sarah Palin could do something progressive. If there was someone in the spotlight as dumb as Palin on the left, I would vote Republican against them without a doubt.
QuoteQuoteThe most affective government is one with a balance of both left & right ideas. The disappointing thing about the current attitude in Washington (and nationwide) is the mentality of our elected leaders; I currently feel that most elected officials don't give a shit about us. They are more focused on getting elected and having control. They don't realize that the solution to our current issues will take everyone working together. Right now they are distracted by their own ego. I think it's interesting how it spreads through the people, and this forum. I am not a republican or a democrat; I am an American.
I like turtles that look like Ruckus
[highlight]In a perfect world, this is true[/highlight]. This has never/will never happen in our country. Peace within is only sparked by violence from without. With that being said, my opinion will never be "I don't care as along as we agree." I have firm left wing opinions.
Back to the original idea of this thread... In a perfect world, Rand Paul would never hold power, and people would never believe someone like Sarah Palin could do something progressive. If there was someone in the spotlight as dumb as Palin on the left, I would vote Republican against them without a doubt.
...every day, large groups of people (with different ideas) come together for a common goal. I go to work every day and work as part of a team...with a common path. Thousands of people go to war, together, side by side, and each one of them has a different idea. Why can't members of our governments do the same? They must be distracted by something... :-?
QuoteQuoteThe most affective government is one with a balance of both left & right ideas. The disappointing thing about the current attitude in Washington (and nationwide) is the mentality of our elected leaders; I currently feel that most elected officials don't give a shit about us. They are more focused on getting elected and having control. They don't realize that the solution to our current issues will take everyone working together. Right now they are distracted by their own ego. I think it's interesting how it spreads through the people, and this forum. I am not a republican or a democrat; I am an American.
I like turtles that look like Ruckus
In a perfect world, this is true. This has never/will never happen in our country. Peace within is only sparked by violence from without. With that being said, my opinion will never be "I don't care as along as we agree." I have firm left wing opinions.
Back to the original idea of this thread... In a perfect world, Rand Paul would never hold power, and people would never believe someone like Sarah Palin could do something progressive. If there was someone in the spotlight as dumb as Palin on the left, I would vote Republican against them without a doubt.
I hope Palin never becomes President. I fear that day!
QuoteThe most affective government is one with a balance of both left & right ideas. The disappointing thing about the current attitude in Washington (and nationwide) is the mentality of our elected leaders; I currently feel that most elected officials don't give a shit about us. They are more focused on getting elected and having control. They don't realize that the solution to our current issues will take everyone working together. Right now they are distracted by their own ego. I think it's interesting how it spreads through the people, and this forum. I am not a republican or a democrat; I am an American.
I like turtles that look like Ruckus
Really well said! I am a democrat but I believe everything represented by your statement.
I have my views but would accept progress with compromise over doing nothing about the economy, jobs, education, campaign finance, defense, etc. I think that's where Obama is coming from, but it comes across as weakness when the Republican leadership is so vocally anti-Obama. There driving goal is not to fix our economy or improve our access to health care; its to prevent the reelection of Barack Obama.
The problem is that, in order to be a successful politian at the national level in these times, you must not compromise. It may be your own views that you campaigned about or the party line. But there is no sense of a williness to work together and find the middle ground.
I remember when it used to exist, but those guys are mostly dead now. We still got Clinton around. He should take over the Democratic Party and whip 'em into shape. He can't be president again but he'd be a great mentor for the current cast of fuck ups.
welcome to johnnYYac's midnight ramble. :D
QuoteJust once I'd like to date a Republican. I bet they'd be freaky-deaky.
I'm a Republican. :-*
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well said johnny.
I think generally I dig the vibe of democrat presidents over republicans. JFK was bad ass, Clinton was bad ass, Carter was peaceful as fuck, Obama was the first president in my life time that wasn't either a Bush or Clinton so it's refreshing for my young mind.
Reagan was a republican and sucked hard, Nixon sucked hard, Bush Sr, blew, and Bush Jr/Cheney was the closest I've seen in my life to corruption I've seen. do not see the appeal of the party at all. especially with the record they have of sucking and being corrupt.
that's mostly opinion tho.
QuoteQuoteJust once I'd like to date a Republican. I bet they'd be freaky-deaky.
I'm a Republican. :-*
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FASCIST!!!
QuoteQuoteJust once I'd like to date a Republican. I bet they'd be freaky-deaky.
I'm a Republican. :-*
Been gone for a few days, and this thread was awe..some!
;D
.....how you doin. ;)
There are a few politicians who I actually trust and think are truly public servants.
I'm just mad that the Libertarian pretext has been usurped by a bunch of theocrats following Bobby's mom and spewing out buzzwords (most recently it's "Bastard"), leading the left to think that small government equals a lack of public utilities and no roads.
QuotePeople that completely blow off any sort if educated/intelligent debate absolutely amaze me. If you don't have a political point of view, don't care, or just don't care to express it... just don't post. Easy as that.
Hmmm??? Educated and intelligent? Was that the part about all Southerns being fucking idiots? The fudge packing part? Florida is Southern as fuck and stupid as fuck? Florida is geographically in the South, so I suppose that hints at some semblance of intelligence. You're right, this is the thread that will save the world! More Superchunk! Note the groovy blue and red lights.
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QuoteQuotePeople that completely blow off any sort if educated/intelligent debate absolutely amaze me. If you don't have a political point of view, don't care, or just don't care to express it... just don't post. Easy as that.
Hmmm??? Educated and intelligent? Was that the part about all Southerns being fucking idiots? The fudge packing part? Florida is Southern as fuck and stupid as fuck? Florida is geographically in the South, so I suppose that hints at some semblance of intelligence. You're right, this is the thread that will save the world! More Superchunk! Note the groovy blue and red lights.
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OK, but seriously...I'm done. Sorry for spamming up this thread. Childish I know. JohnnyY, thanks for being proper. However, reductionist generalizations by some undergrad know it all about an entire region of people is unforgivable.
I'm out
QuoteQuoteJust once I'd like to date a Republican. I bet they'd be freaky-deaky.
I'm a Republican. :-*
Been gone for a few days, and this thread was awe..some!
Hey Walts! I MIGHT have to go to Pine Island, MN on 11-15 for work. How far is that from you? Also, is there a good website that summarizes all of the music shows and goings on in Minneapolis? I thought if there just happened to be a good show there, I might drive back to the city that night depending on my flight time and all that...
QuoteI'm just mad that the Libertarian pretext has been usurped by a bunch of theocrats following Bobby's mom and spewing out buzzwords (most recently it's "Bastard"), leading the left to think that small government equals a lack of public utilities and no roads.
^THIS.
I generally avoid political arguments on the internet. Too much typing. I'd rather argue with my Father-in-law, face to face, in real time. Even though we'll never change each other's minds, at least we can drink beer together while I shoot his goofy ideas down.
QuoteQuoteQuotePeople that completely blow off any sort if educated/intelligent debate absolutely amaze me. If you don't have a political point of view, don't care, or just don't care to express it... just don't post. Easy as that.
Hmmm??? Educated and intelligent? Was that the part about all Southerns being fucking idiots? The fudge packing part? Florida is Southern as fuck and stupid as fuck? Florida is geographically in the South, so I suppose that hints at some semblance of intelligence. You're right, this is the thread that will save the world! More Superchunk! Note the groovy blue and red lights.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/v/nGbg9rC5pxE?version=3[/media]
[smiley=beer.gif] [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
OK, but seriously...I'm done. Sorry for spamming up this thread. Childish I know. JohnnyY, thanks for being proper. However, reductionist generalizations by some undergrad know it all about an entire region of people is unforgivable.
I'm out
the south loves slaves.
;D You're alright Sticky.
QuoteQuoteQuoteJust once I'd like to date a Republican. I bet they'd be freaky-deaky.
I'm a Republican. :-*
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Hey Walts! I MIGHT have to go to Pine Island, MN on 11-15 for work. How far is that from you? Also, is there a good website that summarizes all of the music shows and goings on in Minneapolis? I thought if there just happened to be a good show there, I might drive back to the city that night depending on my flight time and all that...
Sweet! It looks like Pine Island is straight east from me. I would guess it's about the same distance from Minneapolis as I am, which is about 70miles. Let me know if you go for sure.
http://www.citypages.com/
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteJust once I'd like to date a Republican. I bet they'd be freaky-deaky.
I'm a Republican. :-*
Been gone for a few days, and this thread was awe..some!
Hey Walts! I MIGHT have to go to Pine Island, MN on 11-15 for work. How far is that from you? Also, is there a good website that summarizes all of the music shows and goings on in Minneapolis? I thought if there just happened to be a good show there, I might drive back to the city that night depending on my flight time and all that...
Sweet! It looks like Pine Island is straight east from me. I would guess it's about the same distance from Minneapolis as I am, which is about 70miles. Let me know if you go for sure.
http://www.citypages.com/
Perfect. I update you when it gets closer!
Soup's hero =
(http://www.iisg.nl/landsberger/images/mzd25.jpg)
and he'll lay some typical Soup bs down and say the people up in Heilongjiang are pìy[ch462]n's b/c they went to The Hermann Gmeiner Vocational School instead of Qiqihar University
;D ;D ;D
I sorta want to apologize for starting this thread and effectively this ridiculous rampant douchebaggery.
You should start a religion thread next ;)
...just teasin'. ;D I think it's good for people to air their grievances every now and again, it makes you think about what you actually believe when you have to articulate it.
QuoteYou should start a religion thread next ;)
...just teasin'. ;D I think it's good for people to air their grievances every now and again, it makes you think about what you actually believe when you have to articulate it.
I dare somebody to start a religion thread who claims to have the answers.
QuoteQuoteYou should start a religion thread next ;)
...just teasin'. ;D I think it's good for people to air their grievances every now and again, it makes you think about what you actually believe when you have to articulate it.
I dare somebody to start a religion thread who claims to have the answers.
QuoteSoup's hero =
(http://www.iisg.nl/landsberger/images/mzd25.jpg)
and he'll lay some typical Soup bs down and say the people up in Heilongjiang are pìy[ch462]n's b/c they went to The Hermann Gmeiner Vocational School instead of Qiqihar University
;D ;D ;D
I have no comment on the Chairman or the fine people of the People's Republic.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteHowever. Good-bye Christine O'Donnell. Get on your broom and fly directly into the sun you horrible excuse for a woman.
The only good thing she gave me was this hilarious picture I took at the rally last Saturday.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4086/5140934657_b652c9ff04.jpg)
glad christine went down. rand paul is a different kind of beast altogether. the dude is a loon. wouldn't even apologize for his followers stomping that lady who was protesting at one of his rallies or whatever.
it blows that most southerns are fucking idiots. (no offense to anyone here, I'm speaking more about the hicks and meth heads).
HOW the frig is Rand Paul responsible for other people's over-reaction?!? I'm sick and tired of people looking at the left one way and the right the complete opposite way. Barney Frank was present when his fudgepacking partner was busted for pot possession and cultivation yet he sails merrily along (same said partner was out harrassing his latest opponent for the congressional seat, the toad managed to hold onto, to purposely try to get a rise out of him), but a supporter of a conservative defending their guy from a potential loon threat? Holy crap! Call out the army, air force, and marines.
I'm ecstatic Rand Paul is in, John Boehner is going to be speaker (mostly cuz we don't have to listen to the idiotic drivelling of Bela "I Vant To Suck Your Wallet" Pelosi anymore), Marco Rubio is in charge, and the good old "Live Free or Die" state is back to it's Yankee Conservative roots. I just wish the idiots in Massholechusetts would catch the same clue me and close to half the rest of the state has and thrown out Patrick, Frank, Coakley, Moore etc. Hell, these zombies didn't even want to cut themselves a break on the sales tax--from 6.25% down to 3%!!!!!!!!! Jeez if a few more had given it an extra second's thought they might have realized that the lower rate would draw more of our neighbors in higher rate states in resulting in no net revenue loss. Oh well at least the foliage is nice ::)
Fudge packer partner, thats as fucking stupid as anything thats been posted here, liberal or conservative. All your doing is reinforcing the divisive views the past six pages have contained.
Idiots in Massholechuisetts. Your ignorance is sickening.
C'mon I was just being edgy and provactive ;). Besides Frank is the most distasteful piece of crap in Washington. He's rude to his constituents and I can't imagine why anyone in his district wants him back there--he actually called one person who disagreed with him a "table"--talk about being in a job too long.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteHowever. Good-bye Christine O'Donnell. Get on your broom and fly directly into the sun you horrible excuse for a woman.
The only good thing she gave me was this hilarious picture I took at the rally last Saturday.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4086/5140934657_b652c9ff04.jpg)
glad christine went down. rand paul is a different kind of beast altogether. the dude is a loon. wouldn't even apologize for his followers stomping that lady who was protesting at one of his rallies or whatever.
it blows that most southerns are fucking idiots. (no offense to anyone here, I'm speaking more about the hicks and meth heads).
HOW the frig is Rand Paul responsible for other people's over-reaction?!? I'm sick and tired of people looking at the left one way and the right the complete opposite way. Barney Frank was present when his [highlight]fudgepacking partner[/highlight] was busted for pot possession and cultivation yet he sails merrily along (same said partner was out harrassing his latest opponent for the congressional seat, the toad managed to hold onto, to purposely try to get a rise out of him), but a supporter of a conservative defending their guy from a potential loon threat? Holy crap! Call out the army, air force, and marines.
I'm ecstatic Rand Paul is in, John Boehner is going to be speaker (mostly cuz we don't have to listen to the idiotic drivelling of Bela "I Vant To Suck Your Wallet" Pelosi anymore), Marco Rubio is in charge, and the good old "Live Free or Die" state is back to it's Yankee Conservative roots. I just wish the idiots in Massholechusetts would catch the same clue me and close to half the rest of the state has and thrown out Patrick, Frank, Coakley, Moore etc. Hell, these zombies didn't even want to cut themselves a break on the sales tax--from 6.25% down to 3%!!!!!!!!! Jeez if a few more had given it an extra second's thought they might have realized that the lower rate would draw more of our neighbors in higher rate states in resulting in no net revenue loss. Oh well at least the foliage is nice ::)
Really Fanatic? Let's leave comments like this off the forum. I expect better than that.
Exactly. Fanatic, you are probably the most politically informed person on this forum, yet your credibility goes completely out the window when you use terms like that. It makes it look like you have a hateful agenda and immediately makes me eliminate anything you say. And honestly, I'm sure you really don't care Sticky, but same goes for you. Do you seriously expect to make a blanket statement about southerners like that and then be surprised when someone calls you out?
Political discussions are already tense enough without making racial and insensitive remarks. If you want people to actually take you seriously (and maybe you don't) leave the jabs out and say something useful.
My apolgies to the collective forum IQ for the low brow shot at Congressional elect Frank--I just can't stand the sight or sound of the guy and based on the things he's been caught up in recently I can't fathom how he best out Bielat--sour grapes on my part I guess. No more crassity from me...