Dammit, they've shut down Megaupload!
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/justice-fbi-crack-megaupload/story?id=15396526 (http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/justice-fbi-crack-megaupload/story?id=15396526)
mother fucker.
here's some back up shit just in case:
www.SendSpace.com (http://www.sendspace.com) – Unlimited uploads and unlimited downloads. The file size limit with SendSpace is up to 300MB too.
www.MediaFire.com (http://www.mediafire.com)
iFile.it (1gb)
TransferBigFiles.com (100mb)
YourFileLink.com (up to 5gb)
http://www.webfilehost.com/ (http://www.webfilehost.com/) (500mb)
http://www.fileupyours.com/ (http://www.fileupyours.com/) (250mb storage)
http://filefactory.com/ (http://filefactory.com/) (50 files up to 2gb a piece)
http://www.gamefront.com/files/upload (http://www.gamefront.com/files/upload) (time limit)
http://www.4shared.com/ (http://www.4shared.com/) (10gb free)
filesonic.com (1gb)
http://zippyshare.com/ (http://zippyshare.com/) (200mb per file)
http://letitbit.net/ (http://letitbit.net/)
hotfile.com (400mb)
http://uploading.com/ (http://uploading.com/) (10gb free storage)
crocko.com
http://www.2shared.com/ (http://www.2shared.com/)
http://www.wupload.com/ (http://www.wupload.com/)
WTF?!?! Dammit, I get a ton of po....nevermind
Thanks, Sticky. One wonders how long these sites will still be around...
http://109.236.83.66/ (http://109.236.83.66/)
Uhmmm??
http://rt.com/usa/news/anonymous-doj-universal-sopa-235/ (http://rt.com/usa/news/anonymous-doj-universal-sopa-235/)
Quote from: woodnymph on Jan 20, 2012, 12:11 AM
Uhmmm??
http://rt.com/usa/news/anonymous-doj-universal-sopa-235/ (http://rt.com/usa/news/anonymous-doj-universal-sopa-235/)
well deserved hacks. they hit the justice department right? still need to read the article.
Quote from: Sticky Icky Green Stuff on Jan 20, 2012, 12:19 AM
Quote from: woodnymph on Jan 20, 2012, 12:11 AM
Uhmmm??
http://rt.com/usa/news/anonymous-doj-universal-sopa-235/ (http://rt.com/usa/news/anonymous-doj-universal-sopa-235/)
well deserved hacks. they hit the justice department right? still need to read the article.
Yeah they did!! :o :o :o So nuts!!! Kinda trippin me out right now :o
Quote from: woodnymph on Jan 20, 2012, 12:22 AM
Quote from: Sticky Icky Green Stuff on Jan 20, 2012, 12:19 AM
Quote from: woodnymph on Jan 20, 2012, 12:11 AM
Uhmmm??
http://rt.com/usa/news/anonymous-doj-universal-sopa-235/ (http://rt.com/usa/news/anonymous-doj-universal-sopa-235/)
well deserved hacks. they hit the justice department right? still need to read the article.
Yeah they did!! :o :o :o So nuts!!! Kinda trippin me out right now :o
it's essentially just a bunch of networked computers that have been hacked before hand and are chilling silently. big businesses with lots of computers, etc. then they just overload the shit until it can't handle the traffic. it's not really hacking it, but more forcing it to shutdown and not function by flooding it. they aren't stealing information or anything. they could and might have but anonymous at least has seemed more into making people's lives a pain than exposing stuff. they're on your side so you have nothing to worry about.
Quote from: Sticky Icky Green Stuff on Jan 20, 2012, 12:53 AM
Quote from: woodnymph on Jan 20, 2012, 12:22 AM
Quote from: Sticky Icky Green Stuff on Jan 20, 2012, 12:19 AM
Quote from: woodnymph on Jan 20, 2012, 12:11 AM
Uhmmm??
http://rt.com/usa/news/anonymous-doj-universal-sopa-235/ (http://rt.com/usa/news/anonymous-doj-universal-sopa-235/)
well deserved hacks. they hit the justice department right? still need to read the article.
Yeah they did!! :o :o :o So nuts!!! Kinda trippin me out right now :o
it's essentially just a bunch of networked computers that have been hacked before hand and are chilling silently. big businesses with lots of computers, etc. then they just overload the shit until it can't handle the traffic. it's not really hacking it, but more forcing it to shutdown and not function by flooding it. they aren't stealing information or anything. they could and might have but anonymous at least has seemed more into making people's lives a pain than exposing stuff. they're on your side so you have nothing to worry about.
Well that's cool-- I wasn't worried really, was kind of excited actually! But maybe I'm just behind the technology times, it seemed like a pretty big ordeal... and something in me just really gets tickled thinking about gov't sites getting jostled :) For what it's worth :-X
it pumps me up too. love this shit. down with the mother fuckers. let them burn. all of them. hit them with some mob type lawsuit. clean house. make their lives a pain in the process. doesn't get any better. karma at it's finest.
Quote from: Sticky Icky Green Stuff on Jan 20, 2012, 01:16 AM
it pumps me up too. love this shit. down with the mother fuckers. let them burn. all of them. hit them with some mob type lawsuit. clean house. make their lives a pain in the process. doesn't get any better. karma at it's finest.
AMEN! :D :D :D
Feds: Megaupload files may be deleted this week (http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/30/tech/web/megaupload-data-deleted/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn)
Quote from: johnnYYac on Jan 30, 2012, 02:29 PM
Feds: Megaupload files may be deleted this week (http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/30/tech/web/megaupload-data-deleted/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn)
the saga continues aye? so people are allowed to get their stored back up files if they contact megaupload? wtf? interesting they're going to delete the servers. makes ya wonder tho. these people are smart about computers, whose to say there weren't already 10back ups of it stored somewhere? if megaupload comes back, even with it's servers deleted it will only take a matter of days before it's back to where it was before they deleted it. that's why this stuff is such a bunch of bullshit if ya ask me. wasting our tax dollars prosecuting people for a service most people whom use technology depend on greatly is fucking stupid.
Quote from: Sticky Icky Green Stuff on Jan 30, 2012, 06:39 PM
Quote from: johnnYYac on Jan 30, 2012, 02:29 PM
Feds: Megaupload files may be deleted this week (http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/30/tech/web/megaupload-data-deleted/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn)
the saga continues aye? so people are allowed to get their stored back up files if they contact megaupload? wtf? interesting they're going to delete the servers. makes ya wonder tho. these people are smart about computers, whose to say there weren't already 10back ups of it stored somewhere? if megaupload comes back, even with it's servers deleted it will only take a matter of days before it's back to where it was before they deleted it. that's why this stuff is such a bunch of bullshit if ya ask me. wasting our tax dollars prosecuting people for a service most people whom use technology depend on greatly is fucking stupid.
The legal eagle in me immediately wants to know how the federal destruction of legitimate content is not a 5th amendment taking.
The rest of me would like to point out some very important things:
1) Many of the other "lockers" have ceased operation if hosted domestically in the United States. Others are blocking American IP addys from accessing
2) This is bad because when one country has a bad policy in one area, they may force business to go overseas where the policy is bad in other areas
3) The Megaupload people are not heroes. Their reckless behavior behind the scenes are their undoing. It's like in Goodfellas: you don't flash the cash. Bush league
4) Though experiment: why are we suddenly outraged over the government cracking down on a bunch of multi-millionaire 1%ers who didn't pay their fair share?
Quote from: el_chode on Jan 30, 2012, 07:16 PM
The legal eagle in me immediately wants to know how the federal destruction of legitimate content is not a 5th amendment taking.
The rest of me would like to point out some very important things:
1) Many of the other "lockers" have ceased operation if hosted domestically in the United States. Others are blocking American IP addys from accessing
2) This is bad because when one country has a bad policy in one area, they may force business to go overseas where the policy is bad in other areas
3) The Megaupload people are not heroes. Their reckless behavior behind the scenes are their undoing. It's like in Goodfellas: you don't flash the cash. Bush league
4) Though experiment: why are we suddenly outraged over the government cracking down on a bunch of multi-millionaire 1%ers who didn't pay their fair share?
yes on 3 & 4.
Hard to root for the government against
anyone, but have you seen/heard Kim Dotcom? :-\ Man, I don't care if he brings me coffee in bed every morning, it's hard to pull for that guy.
Quote from: el_chode on Jan 30, 2012, 07:16 PM
Quote from: Sticky Icky Green Stuff on Jan 30, 2012, 06:39 PM
Quote from: johnnYYac on Jan 30, 2012, 02:29 PM
Feds: Megaupload files may be deleted this week (http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/30/tech/web/megaupload-data-deleted/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn)
the saga continues aye? so people are allowed to get their stored back up files if they contact megaupload? wtf? interesting they're going to delete the servers. makes ya wonder tho. these people are smart about computers, whose to say there weren't already 10back ups of it stored somewhere? if megaupload comes back, even with it's servers deleted it will only take a matter of days before it's back to where it was before they deleted it. that's why this stuff is such a bunch of bullshit if ya ask me. wasting our tax dollars prosecuting people for a service most people whom use technology depend on greatly is fucking stupid.
The legal eagle in me immediately wants to know how the federal destruction of legitimate content is not a 5th amendment taking.
The rest of me would like to point out some very important things:
1) Many of the other "lockers" have ceased operation if hosted domestically in the United States. Others are blocking American IP addys from accessing
2) This is bad because when one country has a bad policy in one area, they may force business to go overseas where the policy is bad in other areas
3) The Megaupload people are not heroes. Their reckless behavior behind the scenes are their undoing. It's like in Goodfellas: you don't flash the cash. Bush league
4) Though experiment: why are we suddenly outraged over the government cracking down on a bunch of multi-millionaire 1%ers who didn't pay their fair share?
the bottom line is there will always be a new megaupload out there waiting to do exactly what the current one just did. this is some serpent eating it's own tail bullshit if you ask me. this is more about protecting the internet and what we're allowed to do with it than defending the people who ran megaupload, imo. my emotions aren't tied to the people who ran it but the function and purpose of the site itself. there are plenty of businesses that can't afford a host to back their files up on, I'm sure this is going to be a huge pain in the ass for them. same with a lot of home studio/local musicians, etc. it's 1's and 0's. digital media is not and should not be treated as it's physical counter parts. period.
ah see sticky, that's where you're wrong. If you treat it as its physical counterparts, then you don't need new laws to govern it. To quote Battlesta, a series I never purchased but watched because I borrowed from a friend (and to underscore your point about megaupload):
All this has happened before, all this will happen again.
And again
And again
It's nothing new at all really. No different than moving a magnetic tape to digital disc. No different than you copying your favorite tape for me in 1985 and mailing it to me or you copying your favorite CD in 1995 and mailing it to me. It's just that your costs have changed, so the market changed, and its easier. Easier is not new.
Which goes back to the most fundamental issue here: it's just a temper tantrum of epic proportions put on by an industry that has failed to adapt to a new market. Or perhaps can't survive in it.
Kodak's big failure was not enacting a law prohibiting digital photography.
that makes sense about treating it differently and having to use new laws. but at the same time, it's been close to a decade now since we've been able to freely download any movie or album you could ever want. maybe closer to two decades now thinking about it. the internet hasn't changed. what you said about that is on point for sure. it's still just information. it's still just 1's and 0's, code. a lot of the script is open source now too. all the really smooth running, high quality shit out there is open source and allows the entire world to help make the product better. such as malwarebytes or linux. lots of stuff. this scares people like bill gates and especially his investors. but as I'm sure you'd agree at this point, fuck them.
this really is about suppression of information at the core of it. from zach de la rocha of rage against the machine "they don't gotta burn the books they just remove 'em".
censorship. this is horrible for everybody all around but I don't think there has been any case where illegal downloads has bankrupt a musician. the musician has always profited, and what's that price really anyway? who sets that price on a piece of art? why are all pieces of music basically the same price when bad ass factor of music varies is huge degrees? why are they treated as equals? why are all songs a standard .99cents? all these numbers and prices made up are bullshit anyway. if pirating is stealing it's stealing in the sense of Robin Hood.
agree with ya for the most part tho. did you see that daily show piece they did about SOAP and PIPA? half the people didn't even understand what the fuck it was about. and for some reason I don't think they cared because they dont' use the internet very much.
I'm on both sides of this one. I've had my wrist slapped for downloading copyrighted material, and I still do it (Walking Dead comics, anyone?). I also used Megaupload for a ton of music, video, and work-related files. I'm pretty sure 98% of my uploads were "legal".
I like Jim's message in a number of interviews, where he says he expects all MMJ fans to buy their music if they can afford it but wouldn't care if someone who can't afford health insurance were to "steal" it.
I've often wondered what kind of numbers are seen when musicians put music up for sale at a price to be decided by the consumer. Do they see a ton of folks pay 1 cent or do most pay a reasonable amount for the music? I also love the business model of Louis CK recently releasing a DVD as a $5 download on his own website. He pocketed $250,000 after covering expenses, donated another quarter mil, and gave his staff bonuses. No HBO or Comedy Central, no record company, just him and his people.
Maybe that's the fear. Big corporations have their hands in media companies that are losing money to those who share/steal and fear artists also cutting out the middleman to distribute their art. Since corporations are people, they can put $$$ into politicians' pockets legally and influence enforcement actions.
Time to create laws that regulate the reality of modern, web-based technology and how we market digital media, not censorship or federal shutdown of some website. OK, back to work.
When you speak of creating laws that deal in reality, that is, leaving out useless middlemen, you're talking about KILLING OUR JORBS, you communist!
Quote from: Crispy on Jan 31, 2012, 09:45 AM
When you speak of creating laws that deal in reality, that is, leaving out useless middlemen, you're talking about KILLING OUR JORBS, you communist!
(http://www.wa2ise.com/downloading_communism.jpg)
Another thing that really bothers me is how safe is it to store any files/data on the cloud. Small businesses, personal photos, personal files, all of these things are in that data that may be lost by the end of the week. I'd be so pissed. I think of the photos I have stored on flickr, the email and documents I have backed up with google, This reminds me not to take cloud storage for granted.
Also, nice picture, JohnnyYac!
Quote from: johnnYYac on Jan 31, 2012, 09:13 AM
I'm on both sides of this one. I've had my wrist slapped for downloading copyrighted material, and I still do it (Walking Dead comics, anyone?). I also used Megaupload for a ton of music, video, and work-related files. I'm pretty sure 98% of my uploads were "legal".
I like Jim's message in a number of interviews, where he says he expects all MMJ fans to buy their music if they can afford it but wouldn't care if someone who can't afford health insurance were to "steal" it.
I've often wondered what kind of numbers are seen when musicians put music up for sale at a price to be decided by the consumer. Do they see a ton of folks pay 1 cent or do most pay a reasonable amount for the music? I also love the business model of Louis CK recently releasing a DVD as a $5 download on his own website. He pocketed $250,000 after covering expenses, donated another quarter mil, and gave his staff bonuses. No HBO or Comedy Central, no record company, just him and his people.
Maybe that's the fear. Big corporations have their hands in media companies that are losing money to those who share/steal and fear artists also cutting out the middleman to distribute their art. Since corporations are people, they can put $$$ into politicians' pockets legally and influence enforcement actions.
Time to create laws that regulate the reality of modern, web-based technology and how we market digital media, not censorship or federal shutdown of some website. OK, back to work.
to the part about what would happen if bands set their own price. it's a who knows kinda thing still. Radiohead sold less records than they usually do but made more money when they gave In Rainbows away. they said they made more from In Rainbows than all their other albums combined. My Morning Jacket could do it but the question is their fan base active enough to hear about it and come to this site to download it. I think it would spread a lot slower than a radiohead release obviously but it'd still be more profitable than dealing with a middle man or promoter I think. who knows, there aren't many bands who have the balls to try it. NIN and trent did some free release shit too right? it works fine for a big band, small bands miss out on the mass exposure. motivation of the artist matters to, whether or not they're looking for longevity or being a famous one hit wonder, etc. who knows.
This was on boing boing today:
(http://craphound.com/images/theskyisrising.png.jpg)