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My Morning Jacket => The Band => Topic started by: Meddle on Nov 14, 2005, 09:47 PM

Title: I know this topic has already been brought up...
Post by: Meddle on Nov 14, 2005, 09:47 PM
Ok... Does anybody know the situation in the band with drugs... Are they smoking, tripping, anything?
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Post by: corey on Nov 14, 2005, 09:48 PM
My guess is that this probably shouldn't be discussed here.

Just a guess.
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Post by: Meddle on Nov 14, 2005, 09:49 PM
why's that?
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Post by: sweatboard on Nov 14, 2005, 09:53 PM
It's sort of a private matter right?  
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Post by: sweatboard on Nov 14, 2005, 09:55 PM
I would guess that they do drugs but I wouldn't say that's what defines them as people or musicians.  If you see Jim at a show or something you could just ask him, or just e-mail him or something and ask what drugs he does and how often.
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Post by: Meddle on Nov 14, 2005, 09:56 PM
do you think he'd reply?
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Post by: dragonboy on Nov 14, 2005, 09:57 PM
You think he's going to reply to someone he doesn't know & tell them about the drugs he takes (if he does...)
I doubt that very much.
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Post by: Meddle on Nov 14, 2005, 09:59 PM
yes i do too
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Post by: dragonboy on Nov 14, 2005, 10:00 PM
There was a famous case in the UK I think last year where some dick was boasting that he was a dealer on friendsunited.co.uk
The police got a hold of it, contacted him pretending to be a someone from his old school, met up with him undercover & busted him!!!
True story  ;D
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Post by: dragonboy on Nov 14, 2005, 10:03 PM
QuoteIt's sort of a private matter right?  

I think Sweatboard was right first time.
If someone knows that the band have the occasional puff or drop the occasional tab don't post it here.

Respect the bands privacy & let it be  :)


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Post by: sweatboard on Nov 14, 2005, 10:03 PM
So I guess at this point we are all on the same page.  If it's not something you would ask him personally we should probably just leave it alone.  
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Post by: ratsprayer on Nov 14, 2005, 10:04 PM
QuoteThere was a famous case in the UK I think last year where some dick was boasting that he was a dealer on friendsunited.co.uk
The police got a hold of it, contacted him pretending to be a someone from his old school, met up with him undercover & busted him!!!
True story  ;D

busted him for dealing antiques?   ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Meddle on Nov 14, 2005, 10:05 PM
yeah, but i remember reading a thread titles "does jim smoke?"

plus can a cop honestly do anything about it if you smoke? if they never catch you which they wouldnt really tryu to do... im saying--say a cop hears of a popular band that does drugs.. what can they do about it??
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Post by: dragonboy on Nov 14, 2005, 10:06 PM
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busted him for dealing antiques?   ;D ;D ;D

Paintings  ;)
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Post by: EC on Nov 14, 2005, 10:11 PM
Hi there Fat Old Sun.  The dudes here are right.  I think that smoking thread remained pretty devoid of any true facts, and mostly remained speculation.  

Besides - who cares?  We get the good music.  In my books, that's alllll that matterz.   :D

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Post by: dragonboy on Nov 14, 2005, 10:12 PM
13 Jan 2003

A drug dealer who bragged to former schoolmates on Friends Reunited about how much money he was making selling cocaine has been jailed after police saw his online boasting.

Raymond Casling, 24, who had attended Rye Hills School in Redcar, Teesside said on the website: "I'm doing very well. I'm selling a lot of charlie in Redcar and I've got three sports cars."

Local police had been investigating Casling even before seeing his Friends Reunited posting.

They were suspicious of his lavish lifestyle, complete with a Porsche 911, despite his legal earnings of only £45 per week working in a seaside amusement arcade.

Detective Constable Tim Murphy from the Langbaurgh Drugs Squad expressed incredulity at Casling's stupidity for boasting about his shady drugs deals on one of the most popular websites in the UK.

Casling was jailed last week for three years.

 ;D ;D ;D


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Post by: sweatboard on Nov 14, 2005, 10:13 PM
Quotedo you think he'd reply?

It depends on how much Crack he had already smoked.  ;D
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Post by: Meddle on Nov 14, 2005, 10:23 PM
i dont want yall to miss the point im trying to say... i love their music with or without the use of drugs.. the only reason i would wonder is to basically know what kindof guys they are
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Post by: EC on Nov 14, 2005, 10:23 PM
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It depends on how much Crack he had already smoked.  ;D
That's a very big joke in case anybody thought different.

(liiiiittle piiiidgers)
(that's a quote from a christmas story)
(it means "impressionable minds")
;)
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Post by: EC on Nov 14, 2005, 10:24 PM
Quotei dont want yall to miss the point im trying to say... i love their music with or without the use of drugs.. the only reason i would wonder is to basically know what kindof guys they are
I would say, by all accounts, that they're the good kind of guys.  :)
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Post by: dragonboy on Nov 14, 2005, 10:27 PM
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I would say, by all accounts, that they're the good kind of guys.  :)

I'm not so sure...
Unruly facial hair usually suggests a baddie  ;)
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Post by: cmccubbin25 on Nov 14, 2005, 10:35 PM
you can be a good guy and do drugs...especially rock stars...its not like you gotta go work a 9-5
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Post by: Dee. on Nov 14, 2005, 11:17 PM
..usually suggests a baddie, LOL.
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Post by: cmccubbin25 on Nov 14, 2005, 11:38 PM
nah...who hasn't had a small toke in their day?

i mean our Prez snorted coke and look where it got him!
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Post by: ratsprayer on Nov 14, 2005, 11:49 PM
Quotenah...who hasn't had a small toke in their day?

i mean our Prez snorted coke and look where it got him!

i never had a small toke, i always tried to make mine as big as possible.   8)
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Post by: cmccubbin25 on Nov 14, 2005, 11:53 PM
i feel you on that...

i didn't want to scare the non-tokers away having them thinkin' we are "baddies"...LOL
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Post by: tdan on Nov 15, 2005, 12:44 PM
Quoteyeah, but i remember reading a thread titles "does jim smoke?"

plus can a cop honestly do anything about it if you smoke? if they never catch you which they wouldnt really tryu to do... im saying--say a cop hears of a popular band that does drugs.. what can they do about it??

Just ask the Black Crowes what happens.  There was a specific reason that it took them like seventeen years to come back to the ville and even then under a different band name.
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Post by: primushead on Nov 15, 2005, 12:58 PM
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i never had a small toke, i always tried to make mine as big as possible.   8)

That's the spirit!
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Post by: cmccubbin25 on Nov 15, 2005, 01:06 PM
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Just ask the Black Crowes what happens.  There was a specific reason that it took them like seventeen years to come back to the ville and even then under a different band name.

whats this story?
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Post by: guest on Nov 15, 2005, 01:21 PM
i really can't believe you all care.  furthermore, i thought the jim smoking thread was regarding cigarettes?  i think anyone's who's met them can attest to the fact that none of them are drug addicts and beyond that who gives a shit.  
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Post by: realdeal on Nov 15, 2005, 01:44 PM
yeah, good point. but sometimes the keyboardist looks a little strung out. :)
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Post by: Drew on Nov 15, 2005, 01:59 PM
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Just ask the Black Crowes what happens.  There was a specific reason that it took them like seventeen years to come back to the ville and even then under a different band name.

what are you talking about, man?
As far as I know, as much as they've promoted pot smoking, I don't know of one instance of any of the band members getting busted, even Chris Robinson.
Plus, Chris makes references to smoking pot almost at every show. He was always scolding people at shows this year for taking pictures with their cell phones instead of sneaking in tokes. They've probably been one of the most honest bands out there in regards to drug use. Thankfully, it seems they've all left the heavy shit behind.
Shit, back in 92, they're stage back drop was a huge fuckin pot leaf. Now that's rock n roll.

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Post by: EC on Nov 15, 2005, 07:25 PM
This thread has officially become retarded.  As guest suggested, nobody in this band is addicted to drugs.  They are nice fellows who also carry secret rock powers and like owls.

Can we talk about something else, now?  Maybe we should talk about Jim's hair again... ;)
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Post by: aMillionDreams on Nov 15, 2005, 09:26 PM
QuoteThis thread has officially become retarded.  As guest suggested, nobody in this band is addicted to drugs.  They are nice fellows who also carry secret rock powers and like owls.

Can we talk about something else, now?  Maybe we should talk about Jim's hair again... ;)

Jim's hair is geting long again.  do you remember when he used to come on stage with his hair pulled back in a ponytail and he'd head bang until it was free of the hair band and starting to fly.  That was pretty cool.   ;)
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Post by: ratsprayer on Nov 15, 2005, 10:10 PM
i remember the first time i saw them at lebowski fest, and jim had long hair, dressed in the robe at the beginning, and he looked just about exactly like the dude.
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Post by: dragonboy on Nov 15, 2005, 10:20 PM
I had previously shown my wife both of the Conan clips.

When I showed her the Gideon clip & first thing she said was "Oh, you can see his face!"

Women!  ;)
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Post by: EC on Nov 15, 2005, 10:47 PM
QuoteWomen! ;)
Yeah.  Jeez, eh?   ::)

Quotedo you remember when he used to come on stage with his hair pulled back in a ponytail and he'd head bang until it was free of the hair band and starting to fly.
See, that's amazing to me.  Cuz I've banged my head when my hair's been in a ponytail, and that elastic band does not come out.  It gets really tangled, and then I have to cut it out.




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Post by: SplatSplatSplat on Nov 15, 2005, 10:52 PM
that's because you have to get those special bands, the 'rock star bands,'  they come out exactly when they need to...at the perfect moment...it's true...guaranteed or your money back!

rock hard, we'll do the rest!
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Post by: tdan on Nov 15, 2005, 11:32 PM
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what are you talking about, man?
As far as I know, as much as they've promoted pot smoking, I don't know of one instance of any of the band members getting busted, even Chris Robinson.
Plus, Chris makes references to smoking pot almost at every show. He was always scolding people at shows this year for taking pictures with their cell phones instead of sneaking in tokes. They've probably been one of the most honest bands out there in regards to drug use. Thankfully, it seems they've all left the heavy shit behind.
Shit, back in 92, they're stage back drop was a huge fuckin pot leaf. Now that's rock n roll.



Back before they were headlining I saw them open for ZZ Top.  I specifically went to see The Black Crowes.  They came out played an extremely short set, like 15 minutes or less, then got the hell out of dodge.  We were extremely disappointed to say the least.  The story was that they were tipped off that they were going to be busted by the locals when they finished their set.  When they found out, they stopped playing, got their crap and headed immediately across the river to IN to avoid getting busted.  They had never been back to Louisville until earlier this year when touring as Mr. Crowe's Garden.  The point of mentioning this was to show bands being open about their habits can indeed bring on the heat.
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Post by: whothrewthecake on Nov 16, 2005, 12:51 AM
QuoteThis thread has officially become retarded.  As guest suggested, nobody in this band is addicted to drugs.  They are nice fellows who also carry secret rock powers and like owls.

Can we talk about something else, now?  Maybe we should talk about Jim's hair again... ;)

haha, word.  :D
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Post by: fitzcarraldo on Nov 16, 2005, 07:38 PM
Hey Fat, if you are going to keep posting shit like this(& the ridiculous are you fuckin kidding me 'musical ability' thread) can you please spell the man's name correctly.  :-/
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Post by: ycartrob on Nov 16, 2005, 09:38 PM
Quotei dont want yall to miss the point im trying to say... i love their music with or without the use of drugs.. the only reason i would wonder is to basically know what kindof guys they are

What kind of guys are they? I remember posing this question to my wife, several years back, and her response was golden.

My question (which is more important than the whole drug thing):

                   Does Jim wear tighty whiteys or boxers?

  Her response:  Neither, he's a free baller.
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Post by: ratsprayer on Nov 16, 2005, 09:51 PM
my friend thinks jim has no balls at all because of the high notes he can hit.  
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Post by: Drew on Nov 17, 2005, 03:04 PM
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Back before they were headlining I saw them open for ZZ Top.  I specifically went to see The Black Crowes.  They came out played an extremely short set, like 15 minutes or less, then got the hell out of dodge.  We were extremely disappointed to say the least.  The story was that they were tipped off that they were going to be busted by the locals when they finished their set.  When they found out, they stopped playing, got their crap and headed immediately across the river to IN to avoid getting busted.  They had never been back to Louisville until earlier this year when touring as Mr. Crowe's Garden.  The point of mentioning this was to show bands being open about their habits can indeed bring on the heat.

Fair enough, but are you sure that's the show you're talking about, and not this headline show from 1993. Here's the story:
The Crowes problems with concert security personnel followed them to Louisville, KY recently when their show was aborted after an altercation between undercover narcotics officers and two members of the band's crew.

The last chords of No Speak No Slave, the first song of the set, were still ringing when Rich Robinson noticed a scuffle to the right of the stage. The lights went down for several minutes, then Chris Robinson returned to the microphone and announced that police had "beaten up a friend of the band." The band left the stage and did not return.


The fracas began when the two undercover officers from the Louisville Metro Narcotics Division were confronted backstage by Raoul Flores, head of the Black Crowes security, for not having proper backstage passes. Police said the officers were then assaulted by Kevin Wegman, head of the Black Crowes merchandising, and the band contends that it was the police that initiated the attack. Flores and Wegman were charged with fourth degree assault and resisting arrest. Wegman was reportedly covered in blood and taken by ambulance to the local hospital. They were later released on bail, and Wegman's injuries were brushed over in local news coverage.


Lt. Dale Liechty of Metro Narcotics acknowledged that the Black Crowes were not involved in any illegal activity, nor did they possess drugs. Contrary to normal procedure, the undercover officers failed to inform the Black Crowes security that they would require back stage passes. "This is a situation where Flores was just doing his job" said the Black Crowes attorney Bart Adams. "For all anyone knew, these three men could have been on some drug or carrying weapons, presenting a very dangerous situation for the band and their entourage."


Although the band was encouraged to continue the show, they refused and left the arena shortly thereafter but not before wreaking havoc to their dressing room. The audience, which numbered 4,500 were left waiting for nearly an hour before the promoter announced the show had been cancelled, leaving police fearful of a riot.


The crowd left peaceably, although 30 were arrested on marijuana and cocaine charges and one man was arrested after police said he attacked a security guard.


Later that night in his hotel room, Chris expressed his concern for his friends and outrage over what he considered an abuse of authority. "You don't beat a fellow human being into submission over ID badges," he said. When asked why the band did not continue the show, Robinson could only reply " At that point all the rules and etiquette were thrown out the window. It just stopped being what the Black Crowes are all about."



By Scott Robinson, edited from Rolling Stone, 03-14-94.

By Wayne Bledsow, edited from Knoxville News Sentinal, Sunday, 03-14/93.

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Post by: guest on Nov 17, 2005, 03:44 PM
free baller?  nice...

is there a dead horse around here somewhere that we can all beat?
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Post by: tdan on Nov 17, 2005, 05:46 PM
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Fair enough, but are you sure that's the show you're talking about, and not this headline show from 1993. Here's the story:

No, this definitely was not the show I was talking about.  I was still in high school for the show I attended.  As a matter of fact they were kicked off of the tour a few dates after the Louisville show because they kept dissing the tour's sponsor, Budweiser.  Each night at the start of the show they would tell the audience that their show was brought to you by the Black Crowes and no one else as they stood in front of a gigantic Budweiser banner.  

Anyways, I was not aware that they had ever been back since that show.  I cannot believe I missed it, but given what happened, I am glad that I did.  I wonder if the cops were hassling them over what had happened at the ZZ Top show?