i called ticketmaster a half hour ago and the show is sold out. it doesn't say it on the site yet, because you can still buy tickets in the event that someone cancels their orders. but who is gonna do that knowing there are thosands of people out there trying to get tickets.
Next stop Madison Square Garden! Congrats MMJ!!!
Managed to get single seats after an hour of bullshit, but it makes no difference
If anyone has 2 tickets that they can give up to a long time MMJ fan, I would be forever indebted. PLEASE let me know, as I can pay immediately and more than the face value. Thanks!
QuoteIf anyone has 2 tickets that they can give up to a long time MMJ fan, I would be forever indebted. PLEASE let me know, as I can pay immediately and more than the face value. Thanks!
hopefully the kind souls on here will only sell to you for face value...if they don't report to us!!!
A friend of mine got 3 tickets, but we decided to split up and get some better seats. So he'll be listing them on ebay for face value (fees included). Shipping will be free (I'll just email the pdf). They'll be up shortly.
The tickets are 3rd mezzanine, section 100.
QuoteManaged to get single seats after an hour of bullshit, but it makes no difference
same here...3
THERE IS A GUY ON EBAY SELLING FOUR TICKETS - SEE BELOW
You are bidding on 4 tickets to see My Morning Jacket live in New York, NY on June 20th, 2008
These 4 tickets are located Together in:
Section Orchestra 3 Row ZZ
US $700.00
SAME PERSON HAS ANOTHER SET OF FOUR TICKETS - SEE BELOW
You are bidding on 4 tickets to see My Morning Jacket live in New York, NY on June 20th, 2008
These 4 tickets are located Together in:
Section Orchestra 6 Row OO
US $900.00
THIS IS WHY TRUE FANS CANT GET TICKETS BECAUSE A [b]PRICK[/b] LIKE THIS BUY'S THEM & SELLS THEM FOR PURE PROFIT.
WHAT A PRICK
What pisses me off is that there has got to be a person somewhere within the system that is getting a kick back to hold the good tickets for these people. There is no fucking way that these scalpers are using the same method as me an you to get the tickets.
So much for there being "plenty of tickets" as management said. I hope this is a sign of things to come for the band.
As for scalpers, it REALLY sucks. MMJ made an effort to keep the price of the ticket minimal to not rip off their loyal fans and all they really did was increase the profit for scalpers who are going to turn around and rip off loyal MMJ fans! Very shitty. I also hope the fans refuse to pay more than face value.
QuoteTHERE IS A GUY ON EBAY SELLING FOUR TICKETS - SEE BELOW
You are bidding on 4 tickets to see My Morning Jacket live in New York, NY on June 20th, 2008
These 4 tickets are located Together in:
Section Orchestra 3 Row ZZ
US $700.00
SAME PERSON HAS ANOTHER SET OF FOUR TICKETS - SEE BELOW
You are bidding on 4 tickets to see My Morning Jacket live in New York, NY on June 20th, 2008
These 4 tickets are located Together in:
Section Orchestra 6 Row OO
US $900.00
THIS IS WHY TRUE FANS CANT GET TICKETS BECAUSE A [b]PRICK[/b] LIKE THIS BUY'S THEM & SELLS THEM FOR PURE PROFIT.
WHAT A PRICK
i would say the dude has never heard mmj. its a fucking shame that greed has taken over one of the most beautiful creations known to man.
I was curious to see how many tickets made it onto ebay and other ticket sites. Stub hub has over 200 tickets right now from $85 to $648. Crazy! 200 tickets that could have gone to people who got shut out. I feel so lucky to have gotten a ticket today, because there is absolutely no way I could afford to buy a ticket otherwise.
I sense some serious shenanigans in the surreptitious stockpiling of sweet tickets by scalpers. There's gotta be some back-door dealings between the venue and/or ticketmaster and these resellers.
there needs to be a law passed that bands are made to pay a fine if tickets are sold over face value. Or that the Venue has a system that tracks people who buys the tickets, in otherwords, they have all there details on a database & can look up very quickly if this person sold the tickets onto someone else.
Do you understand my idea or am I talking through my hole ?
what also should happen is the poor fucker that buys these ticksts on ebay for $900 should be fine also.
So when the show is on, the FBI or whom ever walks to those seat, Row 00, seat 4.5,6,7 Mezz 1 & says "where did you buys these ticket", then they get hauled away, miss the show, then spend a few nights in jail, so that way people will here about it & will never buy from ebay etc etc
oh poor jaded emmetg... if only protecting the fan were so important.
unfortunately, the laws are actually moving in the other direction...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18959856/
I agree and thinks it sucks that someone can get 2 sets of 4 seats, while some can't get one. I also think it sucks that he's selling them for so much. At the same time, this is nothing new; I used to go see the GD & Phish, and buying tickets after a sell-out was always $$$. We do live in a capitalist society. Some are just greedier than other.
Next time it will be MSG.
Posted with thanks to Andrew Cuomo, NYS Attorney General.
He has been trying to help us out for years. Thank Eliot Spitzer for nothing- scalping is now 100% legal, as knarf has pointed out above...
full text at http://www.oag.state.ny.us/press/reports/scalping/exec_summary.html
Why Can't I Get Tickets?
WHY CAN'T I GET TICKETS?
REPORT ON TICKET
DISTRIBUTION PRACTICES
BUREAU OF INVESTOR PROTECTION
AND SECURITIES
MAY 27, 1999
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
This report is intended to shed light on the largely underground and unexamined ticket distribution system in New York, a system which diverts the most desirable sports, concert and theatre tickets away from the general public.
The process by which tickets wend their way from the original issuer to the ultimate consumer is complex and often illegal. In the general case, the consumer walks up to the box office or telephones a ticket agent such as Telecharge or Ticketmaster (or uses one of their outlets), pays the price on the face of the ticket (with perhaps a small additional service charge) and obtains the ticket that he or she wants. Too often, however, the consumer finds that the desired ticket (e.g., to "The Lion King" or the Yankee playoffs or the Spice Girls) is unavailable within minutes after it goes on sale, and if there are any tickets left, they are at the rear of the house, the highest tier of the stadium or, in the case of a hit show, the wait can be for over a year. However, while a "sold-out" sign confronts the consumer at the box office, the newspapers nonetheless are filled with advertisements for the most sought after seats -- at prices, depending on the popularity of the event, ranging into the thousands of dollars. The Attorney General[ch65533]s investigation demonstrates that ticket distribution practices are seriously skewed away from ordinary fans and towards wealthy businesses and consumers.
This problem is not simply the result of the law of supply and demand. Rather, the availability of tickets and the outrageously high -- and illegal -- prices that brokers charge, to a large extent, can be laid at the door of illicit practices in the ticket industry and other practices that, although possibly not unlawful, are deceptive, unfair to the ticket buying public and supportive of the corrupt ticket distribution system.
Thus, the average disappointed consumer walks away with the suspicion that the tickets could not have all been sold, through the normal means, quite that fast. He or she often believes that someone, somewhere, had an "in," and that dutifully waiting on line or telephoning repeatedly was, in reality, an exercise in futility. To a large extent, that frustrated consumer is correct. This report attempts to explain why and highlights the myths, half truths, and outright criminality that causes the scarcity of tickets.
The entertainment industry is one of the core sources of revenue for New York. Just as we demand integrity of New York[ch65533]s financial institutions and its securities marketplace, New Yorkers have a right to expect integrity in the system through which tickets are distributed. New York[ch65533]s citizens and the millions of tourists who come to New York to attend entertainment and sporting events deserve to obtain tickets through a distribution system free of fraud and corruption.
A system that provides access to quality seating on the basis of bribes and corruption at the expense of the fans, without whose continued support the theatre could not survive, should not be tolerated. Indeed, Billy Joel stated in a recent interview that he would in fact stop doing live concerts because the system did not permit the "real fans" access to tickets.
ps-
The price that tickets to popular events command in the marketplace belongs to the performers, producers and investors who create the events, not the speculators who through illegality and deception take advantage of the excess demand in the system. Ticket scalping is sometimes referred to as a "victimless" crime. To the contrary, the victims of the current ticket distribution system are the fans, the producers and investors who create the events and the State of New York, which loses both tax revenues and credibility as the entertainment center of the world.
I was unable to get tickets and was just wondering if anyone had any ideas or recomendations on where i could go to try to get 2 tix without paying a ridiculous amount for them. Thanks
Scalping is still illegal in KY. I mean you could buy them up and sell them on ebay. But, peddling them at more that face value at the show will get you arrested. It should be that way nation wide.
Quotewhat also should happen is the poor fucker that buys these ticksts on ebay for $900 should be fine also.
So when the show is on, the FBI or whom ever walks to those seat, Row 00, seat 4.5,6,7 Mezz 1 & says "where did you buys these ticket", then they get hauled away, miss the show, then spend a few nights in jail, so that way people will here about it & will never buy from ebay etc etc
This is just my own opinion. If you ever were to spend 900 big ones to see ANYONE ANYWHERE ,then it's one or two things...your wealthy or stupid....Really, even if you miss the show,chances are somebody's recording.
QuoteI was curious to see how many tickets made it onto ebay and other ticket sites. Stub hub has over 200 tickets right now from $85 to $648. Crazy! 200 tickets that could have gone to people who got shut out. I feel so lucky to have gotten a ticket today, because there is absolutely no way I could afford to buy a ticket otherwise.
DAMN BAN STUB HUB THAT"S F#$%ING BS >:(
Thanks for posting that upstatestruggler. The example of the Streisand concert at MSG only having an estimated 50% of the total house seats available to the public after everyone had skimmed their share is shocking. Great post.
I feel pretty lucky to have snagged a couple seats.
QuoteI sense some serious shenanigans in the surreptitious stockpiling of sweet tickets by scalpers.
Say that five times fast!
With regards to ticket scalping, I am OK with being able to sell your ticket for as much as you want. Why should it be different then any other commodity? HOWEVER, the scalpers are obtaining tickets somehow illigally with bribes and other unscrupulous methods, and THIS I have a HUGE problem with.
I'm almost certain that there are some sophisticated computer programs in existence that are able to submit 100s of requests/sec, bypass the protective phrase, and probably even purchase designated tickets.
Either way, something needs to change.
QuoteI'm almost certain that there are some sophisticated computer programs in existence that are able to submit 100s of requests/sec, bypass the protective phrase, and probably even purchase designated tickets.
Either way, something needs to change.
You know, if DeBeers can lose a giant class action settlement, there's a chance TicketBastard will have their day as well.
What a joke.
If I only selected TWO tix instead of one. Shoulda had some coffee this am.
QuoteQuoteI sense some serious shenanigans in the surreptitious stockpiling of sweet tickets by scalpers.
Say that five times fast!
With regards to ticket scalping, I am OK with being able to sell your ticket for as much as you want. Why should it be different then any other commodity? HOWEVER, the scalpers are obtaining tickets somehow illigally with bribes and other unscrupulous methods, and THIS I have a HUGE problem with.
Word, I believe in capitalism to the max, but it sucks when you click on at exactly 10:00 AM and it already says there are no tickets? How? Whatever; I submitted a best offer on ebay for exactly face value! My wife said, "You are wasting your time because you know they are not going to accept." That's OK, I am letting them know that I know ;), and I promised myself I was not going to get mad because there is nothing I can do about it. I feel like this instance was pure luck, even though I usually hate the term "luck". Then again, if it is legal, how can you argue with charging what the market will bear?
well. didn't expect the show to be sold out already.
damn.
Quotewhat also should happen is the poor fucker that buys these ticksts on ebay for $900 should be fine also.
So when the show is on, the FBI or whom ever walks to those seat, Row 00, seat 4.5,6,7 Mezz 1 & says "where did you buys these ticket", then they get hauled away, miss the show, then spend a few nights in jail, so that way people will here about it & will never buy from ebay etc etc
so, what if someone gets shut out and has no other choice than to pay say $150 or $200 for a pair of tickets on ebay? you still want to throw a hefty fine at them for that? yeah, that would REALLY show 'em. look, i know what would help eliminate the prob is NOT buying anything from the scalpers, but if i really want to see a show and miss the ticket sale or get shut out like many others did today, then i'll pay a little extra. this isn't some utopia and personally i don't want government sticking their paws and laws on things to that degree. that said, there's gotta be something that can be done. i smell mafia all over this...
QuoteQuotewhat also should happen is the poor fucker that buys these ticksts on ebay for $900 should be fine also.
So when the show is on, the FBI or whom ever walks to those seat, Row 00, seat 4.5,6,7 Mezz 1 & says "where did you buys these ticket", then they get hauled away, miss the show, then spend a few nights in jail, so that way people will here about it & will never buy from ebay etc etc
so, what if someone gets shut out and has no other choice than to pay say $150 or $200 for a pair of tickets on ebay? you still want to throw a hefty fine at them for that? yeah, that would REALLY show 'em. look, i know what would help eliminate the prob is NOT buying anything from the scalpers, but if i really want to see a show and miss the ticket sale or get shut out like many others did today, then i'll pay a little extra. this isn't some utopia and personally i don't want government sticking their paws and laws on things to that degree. that said, there's gotta be something that can be done. i smell mafia all over this...
Whatever it is it stinks like shit.
Hi guys- just wanted to let you know that as of now I have two extra tix, and even though this show is so far away and I do have friends that will probably want to come, knowing that I bought more than I probably need I will FOR SURE put them up here if I should not need them. Just posting this so that people will check back over the next few months and not be too upset about not getting tix yet-- I know I was pretty freakin upset last week when I got shut out like everyone else since I haven't seen them since down in the catskills a couple summers ago. Just hoping to keep some folks hopes up!
MMJ sold out. ;D ;)
Sorry for another post, but the thing that got me started on this was that the Arcade fire (another ridiculously sought after show to see) was pretty crazy awhile ago with there ticket policy. Basically you had to have an ID (and maybe your credit card too?) with you that matched the name on your tix (I think) and while that might have protected against scalping I thought it was kinda ridiculous because if you wanted to give your buddy your tix you would have to go down there with him or forfeit your ID for the night. Sorry if any of that was inaccurate but its hard when you see scalpers out there and see what other alternatives bands have taken and wonder what will really will ever work. Some out there have fan groups and mail-ins and lottery systems and sometimes you get good tix and sometimes bad (phish, DMB), but I really don't think MMJ selling out here really has anything to do with scalpers--I think these guys have blown up since the last time I was able to see them (damn you medschool) which is awesome for them, but who doesn't hate it just a little when their favorite band becomes popular, despite how much you always tell everyone about them-- we all here know, they are [size=14]IT[/size].
Congratulations to the band because it is really exciting to have a sold out show at radio city music hall :)
However, I'm still hung up on all the ticket brokers. I did a search to see how many websites had tickets and I found 10 different sites. Then of course there is also ebay and craigslist so make that 12. There are close to 1000 tickets being sold between all of these sites.
Quotebut I really don't think MMJ selling out here really has anything to do with scalpers--I think these guys have blown up since the last time I was able to see them (damn you medschool) which is awesome for them[size=14]IT[/size].
yes, its absolutely awesome for them, there was obviously a lot of interest in this show. but i absolutely have to disagree on your thinking that the scalpers had nothing to do with many fans being unable to get tickets for this show. As Elizanne pointed out, a little research shows nearly 20% of the tickets that were available for the show are being sold by scalpers already. And if you look around, many of these are the better seats.
Now obviously the scalpers also recognized the popularity of this show, and that played a role in their snatching up so many tickets... and yes, this show would've sold out without them. Its just disappointing that its the scalpers that are going to be making the big bucks on this show, when the band tried to keep all the ticket prices reasonable for their fans. I think this is what the people who got shut out for this show are upset about, and rightly so.
Yep, and the band sees 0% of the profit being made by these scalpers.
Quotethe band sees 0% of the profit being made by these scalpers.
QuoteCongratulations to the band because it is really exciting to have a sold out show at radio city music hall :)
However, I'm still hung up on all the ticket brokers. I did a search to see how many websites had tickets and I found 10 different sites. Then of course there is also ebay and craigslist so make that 12. There are close to 1000 tickets being sold between all of these sites.
I agree with your sediments, but lots of times the Ticket Brokers are apart of a network of brokers and have 1 giant pool of tickets to see, that is why you often see the same tickets for sale by different places.
Though brokers are the worst think, becuase they are legal scalpers...
QuoteThere are close to 1000 tickets being sold between all of these sites.
damn.
QuoteYep, and the band sees 0% of the profit being made by these scalpers.
yup.