Like 1/2 of last night wasn't any good. During this time I could only think about not wanting to be there. Jim did pull the night through. He is the clear ringleader on this badly planned tour.
QuoteLike 1/2 of last night wasn't any good. During this time I could only think about not wanting to be there. Jim did pull the night through. He is the clear ringleader on this badly planned tour.
what about it wasn't good?
Did you go expecting an MMJ style show, maybe?
QuoteQuoteLike 1/2 of last night wasn't any good. During this time I could only think about not wanting to be there. Jim did pull the night through. He is the clear ringleader on this badly planned tour.
what about it wasn't good?
It just dragged on forever in parts. Bight Eyes is in his Jack White stage right now. An addition like Jack could pull this draize train together. I'd like like half my money back.
QuoteLike 1/2 of last night wasn't any good. During this time I could only think about not wanting to be there. Jim did pull the night through. He is the clear ringleader on this [highlight]badly planned tour[/highlight].
Yeah, I guess I'm confused as to what exactly is letting people down??? I've heard badly planned tour and poor marketing/advertising. I guess I'm unsure as to what people are talking about b/c there's not specifics. Let us know!
QuoteQuoteQuoteLike 1/2 of last night wasn't any good. During this time I could only think about not wanting to be there. Jim did pull the night through. He is the clear ringleader on this badly planned tour.
what about it wasn't good?
It just dragged on forever in parts. Bight Eyes is in his Jack White stage right now. An addition like Jack could pull this draize train together. I'd like like half my money back.
ok
you better hope BH misses this thread- he's going to tear your heart out and punt it to the moon. ;)
Just kidding- sorry you didn't enjoy the show
what exactly is a jack white phase? :-?
Sucks you didn't enjoy yourself. THere is no way this set would bore me...
Phoenix, Arizona - Orpheum Theater - October 21, 2009
01. Man Named Truth
02. Baby Boomer
03. At Dawn (My Morning Jacket)
04. The Right Place
05. Whole Lotta Losin'
06. We Are Nowhere, And It's Now (Bright Eyes)
07. Amy In The White Coat (Bright Eyes)
08. The Big Picture (Bright Eyes)
09. Lullaby + Exile (M. Ward)
10. Say Please
11. Golden (My Morning Jacket)
12. Paul's Song (M. Ward)
13. One Hundred Million Years (M. Ward)
14. Poison Cup (M. Ward)
15. Outta My Head (M. Ward)
16. Dear God (Sincerely M.O.F.)
17. Soul Singer In A Session Band (Bright Eyes)
18. To Save Me (M. Ward)
19. Temazcal
20. I Will Be There When You Die (My Morning Jacket)
21. Bermuda Highway (My Morning Jacket)
22. Look At You (My Morning Jacket)
23. Wonderful (The Way I Feel)
24. The Sandman, The Brakeman And Me
25. Map Of The World
26. Smokin' From Shootin' (My Morning Jacket)
27. Hit The Switch (Bright Eyes)
28. Losin' Yo Head
ENCORE
29. At The Bottom Of Everything (Oberst)
30. Vincent O'Brien (M. Ward)
31. Another Travelin' Song (Bright Eyes)
32. His Master's Voice
Quotewhat exactly is a jack white phase? :-?
im guessing thinking you own the crowds melting faces when youre on stage...which, JW pretty much does
I have no idea what a "draize train" is though ;D
QuoteQuotewhat exactly is a jack white phase? :-?
im guessing thinking you own the crowds melting faces when youre on stage...which, JW pretty much does
I have no idea what a "draize train" is though ;D
Ok good cuz if anybody disses jack they get a virtual punch to the face, draize train ;D ;D
QuoteQuoteQuotewhat exactly is a jack white phase? :-?
im guessing thinking you own the crowds melting faces when youre on stage...which, JW pretty much does
I have no idea what a "draize train" is though ;D
Ok good cuz if anybody disses jack they get a virtual punch to the face, draize train ;D ;D
I will smack someone in the mouth too! The Denial Twist literally just came on. Trippy.
QuoteDid you go expecting an MMJ style show, maybe?
Truth be told, I am worried that I will be bored to tears at this show, too. :-[ I'm not an M. Ward fan. Just don't get it. Same with Oberst.
So, I know better than to expect an MMJ show. I'm going in with hopeful expectations that hearing Ward and Oberst live will make things click for me.
That's it for confessions today. Anything that I add about Jack White is likely to bring a smackdown from Soulshine ;D :D :)
QuoteQuoteDid you go expecting an MMJ style show, maybe?
Truth be told, I am worried that I will be bored to tears at this show, too. :-[ I'm not an M. Ward fan. Just don't get it. Same with Oberst.
So, I know better than to expect an MMJ show. I'm going in with hopeful expectations that hearing Ward and Oberst live will make things click for me.
That's it for confessions today. Anything that I add about Jack White is likely to bring a smackdown from Soulshine ;D :D :)
:D ;D I'm ALL talk....I'm a lover not a fighter.
OK, since we're making comparisons, I'm expecting this to be more like what I thought a Ryan Adams show to be like, and I'm expecting this to turn out like the Ryan Adams show I went to turned out.
Basically, expecting a mostly mellow, sit down, sip on a beer, relax, somewhat atmospheric show that turns out to be way more energetic and expanded than I expected. If that makes sense.
it's all about the lyrics this tour yo. all about the chillness, all about getting folky up and down your spine.
perhaps 3hours is just too much bad ass music for some people's ears, brains, and souls?
special tour = special shows = wish I was there instead of you because there is no possible way I'd have a bad time. did somebody piss on you or something? 30+ songs, 2 and a half + hours for like 35-50bucks? you don't find stuff like this happening anywhere else in the world right now with this caliber of talent be happy you got to partake in the experience. a lot of us don't even have the option of trying to catch a show.
Was fortbethel the same member who started the massive thread because of the comments posted about the last MMJ stop through PHX or Tucson?
For some reason I remember the name being associated with "I want my money back / refund".
Quoteit's all about the lyrics this tour yo. all about the chillness, all about getting folky up and down your spine.
Exactly! I thoroughly enjoyed the show in Portland. Granted I love YY and M.Ward, but never really heard any Conor Oberst/Bright Eyes songs. It was a nice treat to hear some songs I normally wouldn't listen to....(digging Soul Singer in a Session Band). And Jim's voice is so on...so angelic...so perfect!
QuoteWas fortbethel the same member who started the massive thread because of the comments posted about the last MMJ stop through PHX or Tucson?
For some reason I remember the name being associated with "I want my money back / refund".
I call a bad show bad when it is. Jim can be doing FAR BETTER that this MOF sillyness. I'll be pleased if the tour gets cancelled. It should Phoenix was AWFUL!
After 174 posts, I can't remember a single positive comment from fortbethel with regards to any subject. That's just his thing. So no worries.
Luckily it was important enough to have it's own thread, instead of going in the setlist/reviews/stories thread like everyone else.
QuoteAfter 174 posts, I can't remember a single positive comment from fortbethel with regards to any subject. That's just his thing. So no worries.
Luckily it was important enough to have it's own thread, instead of going in the setlist/reviews/stories thread like everyone else.
I've contributed positivly in over half my posts. It's just that when a show is bad it feels like, 'taking the piss' you have to forwarn people
QuoteQuoteAfter 174 posts, I can't remember a single positive comment from fortbethel with regards to any subject. That's just his thing. So no worries.
Luckily it was important enough to have it's own thread, instead of going in the setlist/reviews/stories thread like everyone else.
I've contributed positivly in over half my posts. It's just that when a show is bad it feels like, 'taking the piss' you have to forwarn people
Hey it just isn't for everyone- are you not a conor/bright eyes and m. ward fan? or are you a fan of them and they didn't deliver?
QuoteQuoteQuoteAfter 174 posts, I can't remember a single positive comment from fortbethel with regards to any subject. That's just his thing. So no worries.
Luckily it was important enough to have it's own thread, instead of going in the setlist/reviews/stories thread like everyone else.
I've contributed positivly in over half my posts. It's just that when a show is bad it feels like, 'taking the piss' you have to forwarn people
Hey it just isn't for everyone- are you not a conor/bright eyes and m. ward fan? or are you a fan of them and they didn't deliver?
Only Yim Yames delivered. The rest of the band are just atmosphere. Bright Eyes likes releasing 2 new albums on the same day. That's all I know & want to. He's a crap stage presence
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteAfter 174 posts, I can't remember a single positive comment from fortbethel with regards to any subject. That's just his thing. So no worries.
Luckily it was important enough to have it's own thread, instead of going in the setlist/reviews/stories thread like everyone else.
I've contributed positivly in over half my posts. It's just that when a show is bad it feels like, 'taking the piss' you have to forwarn people
Hey it just isn't for everyone- are you not a conor/bright eyes and m. ward fan? or are you a fan of them and they didn't deliver?
Only Yim Yames delivered. The rest of the band are just atmosphere. Bright Eyes likes releasing 2 new albums on the same day. That's all I know & want to. He's a crap stage presence
If Bright Eyes is not your thing, thats fine, but to be clear, They released 2 albums on the same day once, and they are drastically different. Oh and one of them is a pretty classic album.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteAfter 174 posts, I can't remember a single positive comment from fortbethel with regards to any subject. That's just his thing. So no worries.
Luckily it was important enough to have it's own thread, instead of going in the setlist/reviews/stories thread like everyone else.
I've contributed positivly in over half my posts. It's just that when a show is bad it feels like, 'taking the piss' you have to forwarn people
Hey it just isn't for everyone- are you not a conor/bright eyes and m. ward fan? or are you a fan of them and they didn't deliver?
Only Yim Yames delivered. The rest of the band are just atmosphere. Bright Eyes likes releasing 2 new albums on the same day. That's all I know & want to. He's a crap stage presence
If Bright Eyes is not your thing, thats fine, but to be clear, They released 2 albums on the same day once, and they are drastically different. Oh and one of them is a pretty classic album.
and the other one is actually really good- I thought It was cool to release two completely different records at once... maybe thats just me... and Ghosts.
So you didn't like Conor going into this show- were you expecting to like him at the show?
QuoteQuoteDid you go expecting an MMJ style show, maybe?
Truth be told, I am worried that I will be bored to tears at this show, too. :-[ I'm not an M. Ward fan. Just don't get it. Same with Oberst.
So, I know better than to expect an MMJ show. I'm going in with hopeful expectations that hearing Ward and Oberst live will make things click for me.
That's it for confessions today. Anything that I add about Jack White is likely to bring a smackdown from Soulshine ;D :D :)
I have the same worry. I can totally see a lot of this show being a snoozefest and i'm bringing someone who really has no idea who M Ward and Conor are which is going to be rough.
I look at the setlists and for one, way too many Conor songs for me...and you also have to take into consideration, as good as some of those songs are its not M Wards band playing them, its not MMJ....this tour happened pretty fast and i'm not sure how good some of those songs will be with people just jumping on and off stage, playing them in duo's or whatever.
I'm trying to have a positive outlook going into the show but for the $ the tickets cost I can totally understand what people are saying above about it not being so great.
Listen to one of the 2004 bootlegs. If you don't like that, you won't like this. Simple enough. They do five or six MMJ songs, 5 or 6 Ward, and 5 or 6 Bright Eyes.
I get to see JJ on stage for the first time since Columbus with True and that is all I give a shit about... ;)
oh man, don't even listen to fortbethel. the show was AMAZING! three hours felt like 10 minutes and left me wanting the night to drift on forever. The show was a three hour trip to heaven and back. breathtaking, beautiful, poetic and inspiring.
i probably even know who fortbethel was at the show.
Quoteoh man, don't even listen to fortbethel. the show was AMAZING! three hours felt like 10 minutes and left me wanting the night to drift on forever. The show was a three hour trip to heaven and back. breathtaking, beautiful, poetic and inspiring.
i probably even know who fortbethel was at the show.
I was smoked out by a couple of very fine people with some very good smoke and I can still say THE GIG DID MY BALLS! I didn't feel any warmth except whin Jim did his thing. Hey when did everyone here say I HAD TO SUBSCRIBE 2 EVERYTHING ALT COUNTRY OUT THERE!? JIM & THE JACKET RULE! We'll BRAWL @ the nesxt JACKET TOUR! MOF is a sincere idea/project but it doesn't WORK! LET IT GO!
QuoteQuoteQuoteDid you go expecting an MMJ style show, maybe?
Truth be told, I am worried that I will be bored to tears at this show, too. :-[ I'm not an M. Ward fan. Just don't get it. Same with Oberst.
So, I know better than to expect an MMJ show. I'm going in with hopeful expectations that hearing Ward and Oberst live will make things click for me.
That's it for confessions today. Anything that I add about Jack White is likely to bring a smackdown from Soulshine ;D :D :)
I have the same worry. I can totally see a lot of this show being a snoozefest and i'm bringing someone who really has no idea who M Ward and Conor are which is going to be rough.
I look at the setlists and for one, way too many Conor songs for me...and you also have to take into consideration, as good as some of those songs are its not M Wards band playing them, its not MMJ....this tour happened pretty fast and i'm not sure how good some of those songs will be with people just jumping on and off stage, playing them in duo's or whatever.
I'm trying to have a positive outlook going into the show but for the $ the tickets cost I can totally understand what people are saying above about it not being so great.
I will say that the Smokin' From Shootin' audio on youtube from one of the shows sounded pretty darn good. That's all I got. :-X
WHAT DID THE FREAK DID I JUST FREAKIN SAY?! EVERYTHING JIM DID WAS GR8.! THE REST BLEW?SUCKED/DID MY .....!
QuoteQuoteoh man, don't even listen to fortbethel. the show was AMAZING! three hours felt like 10 minutes and left me wanting the night to drift on forever. The show was a three hour trip to heaven and back. breathtaking, beautiful, poetic and inspiring.
i probably even know who fortbethel was at the show.
I was smoked out by a couple of very fine people with some very good smoke and I can still say THE GIG DID MY BALLS! I didn't feel any warmth except whin Jim did his thing. Hey when did everyone here say I HAD TO SUBSCRIBE 2 EVERYTHING ALT COUNTRY OUT THERE!? JIM & THE JACKET RULE! We'll BRAWL @ the nesxt JACKET TOUR! MOF is a sincere idea/project but it doesn't WORK! LET IT GO!
Do you like the album?
QuoteQuoteQuoteoh man, don't even listen to fortbethel. the show was AMAZING! three hours felt like 10 minutes and left me wanting the night to drift on forever. The show was a three hour trip to heaven and back. breathtaking, beautiful, poetic and inspiring.
MOF BLOW! THE JACKET ARE BEGGING US TO ASK THEM BACK! NOT THIS BRIGHT EYES/CCR/JACKET BULLSHIT!
i probably even know who fortbethel was at the show.
I was smoked out by a couple of very fine people with some very good smoke and I can still say THE GIG DID MY BALLS! I didn't feel any warmth except whin Jim did his thing. Hey when did everyone here say I HAD TO SUBSCRIBE 2 EVERYTHING ALT COUNTRY OUT THERE!? JIM & THE JACKET RULE! We'll BRAWL @ the nesxt JACKET TOUR! MOF is a sincere idea/project but it doesn't WORK! LET IT GO!
Do you like the album?
QuoteWHAT DID THE FREAK DID I JUST FREAKIN SAY?! EVERYTHING JIM DID WAS GR8.! THE REST BLEW?SUCKED/DID MY .....!
How was Jim? :-/
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteAfter 174 posts, I can't remember a single positive comment from fortbethel with regards to any subject. That's just his thing. So no worries.
Luckily it was important enough to have it's own thread, instead of going in the setlist/reviews/stories thread like everyone else.
I've contributed positivly in over half my posts. It's just that when a show is bad it feels like, 'taking the piss' you have to forwarn people
Hey it just isn't for everyone- are you not a conor/bright eyes and m. ward fan? or are you a fan of them and they didn't deliver?
Only Yim Yames delivered. The rest of the band are just atmosphere. Bright Eyes likes releasing 2 new albums on the same day. That's all I know & want to. He's a crap stage presence
If Bright Eyes is not your thing, thats fine, but to be clear, They released 2 albums on the same day once, and they are drastically different. Oh and one of them is a pretty classic album.
classic as in, one of the best albums I've ever heard.
QuoteLike 1/2 of last night wasn't any good. During this time I could only think about not wanting to be there. Jim did pull the night through. He is the clear ringleader on this badly planned tour.
hey I forgot to ask, I know you hated the show.. but did you tape it? could you up that shit asap I'm itchin for a quickie. thx.
ps. I would really love to fart directly in your mouth.
QuoteWHAT DID THE FREAK DID I JUST FREAKIN SAY?! EVERYTHING JIM DID WAS GR8.! THE REST BLEW?SUCKED/DID MY .....!
If this was in reference to my comment about Smokiin', that was directed towards Bold who expressed reservation about what the band would sound like doing MMJ covers. I thought that the "band" sounded very good covering this song.
QuoteWHAT DID THE FREAK DID I JUST FREAKIN SAY?! EVERYTHING JIM DID WAS GR8.! THE REST BLEW?SUCKED/DID MY .....!
see this can't be so because those other musicians on stage are extremely talented and their music is equal to the caliber of yes, even some of jim james material. perhaps in some cases better? GASP!?!
it's cool to praise jim and support mmj but not liking one of these shows and liking my morning jacket is almost hypocritical.
jim guests on a lot of the albums the material m and o-burst are playing this tour and those albums really blaze like a fat bodacious chunky boy. in the realm these dudes are currently jamming the subtle things are important more than lights and seriously rocking the fuck out. people need to get into the mindset these shows are mellow on purpose. if they don't like the mellow side of music they shouldn't go to these shows. what did you expect? the only monsters of folk show I've heard was that one that's been out forever. jim's set not only was full of quite a few unreleased tunes but pretty much all low key tunes as well. one in the same, where to begin, etc. even the collective set they did was chill with dylan and willie nelson covers.
this tour they have more songs they all play on, they are becoming more cohesive. but they're a new band, shit takes time don't be such an insta-bitch about bringin the h8 round hur. ya gonna get stomped son.
QuoteQuoteoh man, don't even listen to fortbethel. the show was AMAZING! three hours felt like 10 minutes and left me wanting the night to drift on forever. The show was a three hour trip to heaven and back. breathtaking, beautiful, poetic and inspiring.
i probably even know who fortbethel was at the show.
I was smoked out by a couple of very fine people with some very good smoke and I can still say THE GIG DID MY BALLS! I didn't feel any warmth except whin Jim did his thing. Hey when did everyone here say I HAD TO SUBSCRIBE 2 EVERYTHING ALT COUNTRY OUT THERE!? JIM & THE JACKET RULE! We'll BRAWL @ the nesxt JACKET TOUR! MOF is a sincere idea/project but it doesn't WORK! LET IT GO!
I'm wondering how someone with a beating heart can sit in beautiful theater and listen to ward and conor's powerful performance and only feel a cold, hard stone in the room. I was moved and blown away. ward's acoustic "poison cup" was amazing and so many other feelings that can't be explained in a list of adjectives.
come on! seriously. mogis is a secret weapon, will johnson has got to be the beating heart of MOF and ward, conor and jim are the voices and minds of MOF. the combination of all these talented gentlemen is so perfect, i could explode. they are a tailored suit. you can't say monsters of folk is a bad idea.
i'm just wondering how HOW you can so easily brush something off that's so beautiful.
This guy obviously has issues. Who goes to a show of someone that don't like and then complains that they don't like the show? I don't go to McDonald's and then ask for my money back, I just don't go to McDonald's.
Sounds like a troll to me, don't feed him.
Wow, funny stuff. I have tickets to attend the Toronto show. Can't wait. I on the other hand, am planning on having a good time, not only because I think every musician in Mof is very talented, but because I actually want to go... Isn't that a concept forthebel or whatever your name is. I try, I do say TRY to attend concerts that actually interests me, suggestion: You should TRY doing the same.
'Bout time this forum got heated up again! ;) ;D
I love fortbethel!
I don't think there is any need to get heated, it is his opinion, after all. We all have one. I'm just trying to understand his logic. You obviously don't like Conor or M. Ward. You think MOF is a failed project. I still don't know if you like the album or not. You are a fan of MMJ and Jim. All of that is fine. My question is why did you go to the show? You don't like 2/3's of the songwriters, or possibly the MOF album itself. I mean, it's your money, but $50 is a lot of it for 5 or 6 MMJ songs, which you already said was the only thing you dug about the whole experience. It seems like you were setting yourself up for disappointment. SO why did you go? I'm asking sincerely, I'm curious.
QuoteI love fortbethel!
Why thank you kind sir, lass whichever applies :)
QuoteI don't think there is any need to get heated, it is his opinion, after all. We all have one. I'm just trying to understand his logic. You obviously don't like Conor or M. Ward. You think MOF is a failed project. I still don't know if you like the album or not. You are a fan of MMJ and Jim. All of that is fine. My question is why did you go to the show? You don't like 2/3's of the songwriters, or possibly the MOF album itself. I mean, it's your money, but $50 is a lot of it for 5 or 6 MMJ songs, which you already said was the only thing you dug about the whole experience. It seems like you were setting yourself up for disappointment. SO why did you go? I'm asking sincerely, I'm curious.
A family member bought me a ticket as a gift. The gig really did suck.
At least I was able to get through it thanks to the herb I smoked before. If I was sober I would have left after the 2nd song. MOF are a sad sad supergroup. They will fail.
QuoteQuoteI don't think there is any need to get heated, it is his opinion, after all. We all have one. I'm just trying to understand his logic. You obviously don't like Conor or M. Ward. You think MOF is a failed project. I still don't know if you like the album or not. You are a fan of MMJ and Jim. All of that is fine. My question is why did you go to the show? You don't like 2/3's of the songwriters, or possibly the MOF album itself. I mean, it's your money, but $50 is a lot of it for 5 or 6 MMJ songs, which you already said was the only thing you dug about the whole experience. It seems like you were setting yourself up for disappointment. SO why did you go? I'm asking sincerely, I'm curious.
A family member bought me a ticket as a gift. The gig really did suck.
At least I was able to get through it thanks to the herb I smoked before. If I was sober I would have left after the 2nd song. MOF are a sad sad supergroup. They will fail.
You win some, you lose some. However, even though you think MOF is a "sad, sad supergroup", which like I've said already is fine, they will not fail. Like it or not, you are in the minority. They've already succeeded.
QuoteQuoteQuoteI don't think there is any need to get heated, it is his opinion, after all. We all have one. I'm just trying to understand his logic. You obviously don't like Conor or M. Ward. You think MOF is a failed project. I still don't know if you like the album or not. You are a fan of MMJ and Jim. All of that is fine. My question is why did you go to the show? You don't like 2/3's of the songwriters, or possibly the MOF album itself. I mean, it's your money, but $50 is a lot of it for 5 or 6 MMJ songs, which you already said was the only thing you dug about the whole experience. It seems like you were setting yourself up for disappointment. SO why did you go? I'm asking sincerely, I'm curious.
A family member bought me a ticket as a gift. The gig really did suck.
At least I was able to get through it thanks to the herb I smoked before. If I was sober I would have left after the 2nd song. MOF are a sad sad supergroup. They will fail.
You win some, you lose some. However, even though you think MOF is a "sad, sad supergroup", which like I've said already is fine, they will not fail. Like it or not, you are in the minority. They've already succeeded.
I'll be having the last word on this overblown debate Casper
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI don't think there is any need to get heated, it is his opinion, after all. We all have one. I'm just trying to understand his logic. You obviously don't like Conor or M. Ward. You think MOF is a failed project. I still don't know if you like the album or not. You are a fan of MMJ and Jim. All of that is fine. My question is why did you go to the show? You don't like 2/3's of the songwriters, or possibly the MOF album itself. I mean, it's your money, but $50 is a lot of it for 5 or 6 MMJ songs, which you already said was the only thing you dug about the whole experience. It seems like you were setting yourself up for disappointment. SO why did you go? I'm asking sincerely, I'm curious.
A family member bought me a ticket as a gift. The gig really did suck.
At least I was able to get through it thanks to the herb I smoked before. If I was sober I would have left after the 2nd song. MOF are a sad sad supergroup. They will fail.
You win some, you lose some. However, even though you think MOF is a "sad, sad supergroup", which like I've said already is fine, they will not fail. Like it or not, you are in the minority. They've already succeeded.
I'll be having the last word on this overblown debate Casper
I'm going to eat your face forbethel.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI don't think there is any need to get heated, it is his opinion, after all. We all have one. I'm just trying to understand his logic. You obviously don't like Conor or M. Ward. You think MOF is a failed project. I still don't know if you like the album or not. You are a fan of MMJ and Jim. All of that is fine. My question is why did you go to the show? You don't like 2/3's of the songwriters, or possibly the MOF album itself. I mean, it's your money, but $50 is a lot of it for 5 or 6 MMJ songs, which you already said was the only thing you dug about the whole experience. It seems like you were setting yourself up for disappointment. SO why did you go? I'm asking sincerely, I'm curious.
A family member bought me a ticket as a gift. The gig really did suck.
At least I was able to get through it thanks to the herb I smoked before. If I was sober I would have left after the 2nd song. MOF are a sad sad supergroup. They will fail.
You win some, you lose some. However, even though you think MOF is a "sad, sad supergroup", which like I've said already is fine, they will not fail. Like it or not, you are in the minority. They've already succeeded.
I'll be having the last word on this overblown debate Casper
Will you? Go find me 3 reviews of the album that are negative, or 3 reviews of any of the shows they played (besides yours) that are negative, and maybe I'll take your last word into consideration. Until then, I stand by the FACT that most people dig Monsters of Folk.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI don't think there is any need to get heated, it is his opinion, after all. We all have one. I'm just trying to understand his logic. You obviously don't like Conor or M. Ward. You think MOF is a failed project. I still don't know if you like the album or not. You are a fan of MMJ and Jim. All of that is fine. My question is why did you go to the show? You don't like 2/3's of the songwriters, or possibly the MOF album itself. I mean, it's your money, but $50 is a lot of it for 5 or 6 MMJ songs, which you already said was the only thing you dug about the whole experience. It seems like you were setting yourself up for disappointment. SO why did you go? I'm asking sincerely, I'm curious.
A family member bought me a ticket as a gift. The gig really did suck.
At least I was able to get through it thanks to the herb I smoked before. If I was sober I would have left after the 2nd song. MOF are a sad sad supergroup. They will fail.
You win some, you lose some. However, even though you think MOF is a "sad, sad supergroup", which like I've said already is fine, they will not fail. Like it or not, you are in the minority. They've already succeeded.
I'll be having the last word on this overblown debate Casper
Will you? Go find me 3 reviews of the album that are negative, or 3 reviews of any of the shows they played (besides yours) that are negative, and maybe I'll take your last word into consideration. Until then, I stand by the FACT that most people dig Monsters of Folk.
USA Today said it sucked and here's a 2nd bad review I'll post the 3d out of many bad reviews in a bit
Monsters of Folk
Monsters of Folk
[Shangri-La; 2009]
Styles: The Traveling Wilburys' second album, what I imagine Chickenfoot would sound like if they were simpering assholes instead of cocksure assholes
Others: Uh, you know who's involved in this, right?
Links: Monsters of Folk - Shangri-La
Blame it on the Jenny. After all, if M. Ward, Conor Oberst, and Ben Gibbard hadn't come together for a forgettable cover of The Traveling Wilburys' "Handle With Care" for Jenny Lewis' also-forgettable 2006 solo bow, Rabbit Fur Coat, this whole Monsters of Folk affair may not be occupying the minutiae of our collective consciousness. Then again: Gibbard and Lewis are out, Jim James and über-producer Mike Mogis are in, and the project takes its so-dumb-it's-really-dumb nom de plume (what, was "Gangsta Motherfolkers" taken?) from a tour the newly-minted quartet embarked on back in 2004. So maybe I'm just misogynistic.
Either way, two things are certain: these guys made an album together, and it is long. Not "long" as in "epic" — only one song in the 15-song set barely pushes the 5-minute mark — but "long" as in, "Why have outtakes if we could fit everything we recorded onto one CD?" Based on that assessment, I don't have to tell you about the quality control exercised on Monsters of Folk, but I will anyway: it's nowhere to be found. There's no sense of cohesion or flow between any of these songs, partially due to a clear lack of thought devoted to these conceits, but mostly because every M. Ward- and Conor Oberst-penned song sounds the same lately.
In Ward's case, that's not a bad thing; over the course of his last several solo albums (as well as his Hazlewood-esque role in She & Him), he's been quietly perfecting his own brand of nostalgic folk-pop (although one can unfortunately deduce that his once-worn John Fahey records are gathering dust somewhere). Perfection can be a gift — and, at times, it is here, as evidenced by the lovingly languid pacing of "The Sandman, the Brakeman, and Me" — but it can turn any brand bland; the lazy Beatles pastiche of "Whole Lotta Losin'" (who's he kidding with that false open?) comes off as trite, whereas "Baby Boomer" seems to be a near-insulting write-around of one of Ward's best solo songs, Post War's "Chinese Translation."
Oberst's situation is even more dire; the guy's been treading water in the same political-hogwash pool since he wrote the silly "When the President Talks to God." It's as if he's forgotten what makes his brand so sporadically enthralling — the wrenching details of post-adolescent ennui — by letting those let's-not-even-talk-about-it Bob Dylan comparisons go straight to his very ideologically confused mind. "Man Named Truth" is so typically fuck-the-world that it's hard not to mistake it for a well-composed prank, and "Temezcal" is the kind of sonic back-handed amateur travelogue that makes Dylan's "Mozambique" seem authentic in comparison.
A fair amount of hay has been made about James' presence as the highlight of Monsters of Folk, and the claim's not without merit. When he's not adding serene backing vocals to complement the record's white-bread ordinariness, his lead takes on "Dear God (sincerely M.O.F.)," "His Master's Voice," and "Say Please" offer desperately-needed respite for weary listeners. The only problem is that when you hear James' voice, you wait for one of those titanic riffs that My Morning Jacket are so expert at uncoiling, but they never come. Hey, MMJ: please save us from more of this
Yeah, and?
USA Today? Are you kidding me? Thats about the least credible source for any kind of criticism I could possibly think of.
Might as well just start getting your record reviews from Popular Science, ya know?
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI don't think there is any need to get heated, it is his opinion, after all. We all have one. I'm just trying to understand his logic. You obviously don't like Conor or M. Ward. You think MOF is a failed project. I still don't know if you like the album or not. You are a fan of MMJ and Jim. All of that is fine. My question is why did you go to the show? You don't like 2/3's of the songwriters, or possibly the MOF album itself. I mean, it's your money, but $50 is a lot of it for 5 or 6 MMJ songs, which you already said was the only thing you dug about the whole experience. It seems like you were setting yourself up for disappointment. SO why did you go? I'm asking sincerely, I'm curious.
A family member bought me a ticket as a gift. The gig really did suck.
At least I was able to get through it thanks to the herb I smoked before. If I was sober I would have left after the 2nd song. MOF are a sad sad supergroup. They will fail.
You win some, you lose some. However, even though you think MOF is a "sad, sad supergroup", which like I've said already is fine, they will not fail. Like it or not, you are in the minority. They've already succeeded.
I'll be having the last word on this overblown debate Casper
I'm going to eat your face forbethel.
did you already fart in it?
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Sounds like a troll to me, don't feed him.
Truth has been spoken.
USA TODAYMonsters of Folk ReviewIt sucked
Now for the weather.....
QuoteQuoteI love fortbethel!
Why thank you kind sir, lass whichever applies :)
you know...sometimes I can relate to you and I like that you speak your mind and say it how you actually would in "real life" - although I disagree with you on this topic, I still love the fact that you get people panties all in a wad.
PS: USA Today is the worst "news" source in the States. I would rather pick up the Mendicino Beacon or The Durango Hearld and read about complications involving the new charter schools electrical system, than read anything USA Today values as important.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI don't think there is any need to get heated, it is his opinion, after all. We all have one. I'm just trying to understand his logic. You obviously don't like Conor or M. Ward. You think MOF is a failed project. I still don't know if you like the album or not. You are a fan of MMJ and Jim. All of that is fine. My question is why did you go to the show? You don't like 2/3's of the songwriters, or possibly the MOF album itself. I mean, it's your money, but $50 is a lot of it for 5 or 6 MMJ songs, which you already said was the only thing you dug about the whole experience. It seems like you were setting yourself up for disappointment. SO why did you go? I'm asking sincerely, I'm curious.
A family member bought me a ticket as a gift. The gig really did suck.
At least I was able to get through it thanks to the herb I smoked before. If I was sober I would have left after the 2nd song. MOF are a sad sad supergroup. They will fail.
You win some, you lose some. However, even though you think MOF is a "sad, sad supergroup", which like I've said already is fine, they will not fail. Like it or not, you are in the minority. They've already succeeded.
I'll be having the last word on this overblown debate Casper
I'm going to eat your face forbethel.
did you already fart in it?
no way dude. I'm not going to eat fart face, are you crazy?
QuoteQuoteQuoteI love fortbethel!
Why thank you kind sir, lass whichever applies :)
you know...sometimes I can relate to you and I like that you speak your mind and say it how you actually would in "real life" - although I disagree with you on this topic, I still love the fact that you get people panties all in a wad.
PS: USA Today is the worst "news" source in the States. I would rather pick up the Mendicino Beacon or The Durango Hearld and read about complications involving the new charter schools electrical system, than read anything USA Today values as important.
he can wad my dick.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI don't think there is any need to get heated, it is his opinion, after all. We all have one. I'm just trying to understand his logic. You obviously don't like Conor or M. Ward. You think MOF is a failed project. I still don't know if you like the album or not. You are a fan of MMJ and Jim. All of that is fine. My question is why did you go to the show? You don't like 2/3's of the songwriters, or possibly the MOF album itself. I mean, it's your money, but $50 is a lot of it for 5 or 6 MMJ songs, which you already said was the only thing you dug about the whole experience. It seems like you were setting yourself up for disappointment. SO why did you go? I'm asking sincerely, I'm curious.
A family member bought me a ticket as a gift. The gig really did suck.
At least I was able to get through it thanks to the herb I smoked before. If I was sober I would have left after the 2nd song. MOF are a sad sad supergroup. They will fail.
You win some, you lose some. However, even though you think MOF is a "sad, sad supergroup", which like I've said already is fine, they will not fail. Like it or not, you are in the minority. They've already succeeded.
I'll be having the last word on this overblown debate Casper
I'm going to eat your face forbethel.
did you already fart in it?
no way dude. I'm not going to eat fart face, are you crazy?
hahaha can you please make that your signature- I think that's the funniest thing you have ever said.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI don't think there is any need to get heated, it is his opinion, after all. We all have one. I'm just trying to understand his logic. You obviously don't like Conor or M. Ward. You think MOF is a failed project. I still don't know if you like the album or not. You are a fan of MMJ and Jim. All of that is fine. My question is why did you go to the show? You don't like 2/3's of the songwriters, or possibly the MOF album itself. I mean, it's your money, but $50 is a lot of it for 5 or 6 MMJ songs, which you already said was the only thing you dug about the whole experience. It seems like you were setting yourself up for disappointment. SO why did you go? I'm asking sincerely, I'm curious.
A family member bought me a ticket as a gift. The gig really did suck.
At least I was able to get through it thanks to the herb I smoked before. If I was sober I would have left after the 2nd song. MOF are a sad sad supergroup. They will fail.
You win some, you lose some. However, even though you think MOF is a "sad, sad supergroup", which like I've said already is fine, they will not fail. Like it or not, you are in the minority. They've already succeeded.
I'll be having the last word on this overblown debate Casper
I'm going to eat your face forbethel.
did you already fart in it?
no way dude. I'm not going to eat fart face, are you crazy?
hahaha can you please make that your signature- I think that's the funniest thing you have ever said.
I can't sig my own quote. plus I always gotta keep things fresh, can't stuck on yesterdays joke. one step ahead caporal, one step ahead.
back on topic wtf. MoF kick ass.
QuoteI don't think there is any need to get heated, it is his opinion, after all. We all have one. I'm just trying to understand his logic. You obviously don't like Conor or M. Ward. You think MOF is a failed project. I still don't know if you like the album or not. You are a fan of MMJ and Jim. All of that is fine. My question is why did you go to the show? You don't like 2/3's of the songwriters, or possibly the MOF album itself. I mean, it's your money, but $50 is a lot of it for 5 or 6 MMJ songs, which you already said was the only thing you dug about the whole experience. It seems like you were setting yourself up for disappointment. SO why did you go? I'm asking sincerely, I'm curious.
I can't speak for our friend bethel, but I'm kind of in the same boat. I would go see Jim if he was touring in a supergroup with Miley Cyrus and the Jonas Brothers. I might not dig on their contributions, but I'd suffer through because Jim is one of my favorite performers.
However, if you wanted me to pay $60+ for the dubious privilege... ;D