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Title: What's This?
Post by: The DARK on Aug 08, 2007, 06:14 PM
Something new I have to look forward to?

http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2007/08/08/exclusive-sneak-peek-todd-haynes-bob-dylan-film-im-not-there/
Title: Re: What's This?
Post by: aMD on Aug 08, 2007, 07:24 PM
O
MY
GOD
!!!!

Jim James AS Bob Dylan a la Rolling Thunder.  Going to Acapulco!

I officially just shit myself!
Title: Re: What's This?
Post by: dragonboy on Aug 08, 2007, 08:02 PM
This movie just went from 'looks kind of interesting' to 'top-of-the list-must-see!'
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Post by: BH on Aug 08, 2007, 09:25 PM
Does anyone know the release date on this?
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Post by: JohnnyRage on Aug 08, 2007, 09:28 PM
'Wearing White Face', how racially insensitive.... ::)
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Post by: Kory on Aug 08, 2007, 09:44 PM
awesome!
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Post by: mjkoehler on Aug 08, 2007, 10:13 PM
I like the one guys comments. "All you had to say was Jim James"
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Post by: dragonboy on Aug 09, 2007, 01:25 AM
QuoteDoes anyone know the release date on this?
IMDB says Nov 21 (limited release) for the U S and A.
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Post by: cmccubbin@work on Aug 09, 2007, 09:15 AM
wow!
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Post by: LaurieBlue on Aug 09, 2007, 06:44 PM
http://theplaylist.blogspot.com/2007/08/im-not-there-soundtrack-full-details.html
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Post by: evilPaauwe on Aug 10, 2007, 03:20 PM
i am confused.

is jim james just on the soundtrack or will he be appearing in the film playing the song?
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Post by: aMD on Aug 10, 2007, 04:01 PM
from what I can tell he will be on the soundtrack AND in the movie performing the song as bob dylan (the white face the guy refers to is the pancake makeup bob dylan wore for whatever reason during the rolling thunder revue tour).  

What I'm wondering is if Jim will have any lines as dylan or if he's just performing the song.  That was a crazy fucked up time period in dylan's career.  I've only seen snippets of Jim acting but I wonder if he can pull it off.  as a performer dylan is much more stoic and less emotive than jim and in real life jim is nice and approachable, dylan is... well, not.
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Post by: BH on Aug 10, 2007, 04:51 PM
I just thought of something.

How in the hell can Jim do this -->

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ixjJGUI4JZ4

without shaving his beard?  :-/

I guess if a girl can play Dylan, than someone with a beard can play Dylan.
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Post by: Hawkeye on Aug 10, 2007, 05:08 PM
Amazing.
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Post by: whothrewthecake on Aug 13, 2007, 01:32 PM
http://www.killerfilms.com/news/notthere.html
i saw these pics on another blog i read.....
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Post by: fitzcarraldo on Aug 13, 2007, 03:27 PM
Wow, cool surreal shot! Thanks 4 posting Ms. Cake.  What's the story with the woman  in the coffin? Hey this is from the same director as Velvet Goldmine right. This should be awesome!
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Post by: colleen on Aug 13, 2007, 03:32 PM
QuoteWow, cool surreal shot! Thanks 4 posting Ms. Cake.  What's the story with the woman  in the coffin? Hey this is from the same director as Velvet Goldmine right. This should be awesome!

Yeah, if it actually is released (has taken so long but now it says Sept. 7th). Todd Haynes is one of my favorite directors. Safe and Far From Heaven are must-sees too.
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Post by: aMD on Aug 13, 2007, 06:08 PM
what could possibly be going on in that picture?  man, this movie is either going to be genius or unintelligible.  probably both.
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Post by: cmccubbin@work on Aug 14, 2007, 08:09 AM
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003625182

More INFO!!!

The sequenced track list for the soundtrack has not yet been finalized, but it will feature the following songs:

"All Along the Watchtower," Eddie Vedder and the Million Dollar Bashers
"As I Went Out One Morning," Mira Billotte
"Ballad of a Thin Man," Stephen Malkmus and the Million Dollar Bashers
"Billy," Los Lobos
"Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window," the Hold Steady
"Can't Leave Her Behind," Stephen Malkmus and Lee Ranaldo
"Cold Irons Bound," Tom Verlaine and the Million Dollar Bashers
"Dark Eyes," Iron & Wine and Calexico
"Fourth Time Around," Yo La Tengo
"Goin' To Acapulco," Jim James and Calexico
"Highway 61 Revisited," Karen O and the Million Dollar Bashers
"I Dreamed I Saw St. Augustine," John Doe
"I Wanna Be Your Lover," Yo La Tengo
"I'm Not There," Bob Dylan
"I'm Not There," Sonic Youth
"Just Like a Woman," Charlotte Gainsbourg and Calexico
"Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues," Ramblin' Jack Elliot
"Knockin' on Heaven's Door," Antony & the Johnsons
"The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll," Mason Jennings
"Maggie's Farm," Stephen Malkmus and the Million Dollar Bashers
"Mama You've Been on My Mind," Jack Johnson
"The Man in the Long Black Coat," Mark Lanegan
"Moonshiner," Bob Forrest
"One More Cup of Coffee," Roger McGuinn and Calexico
"Pressing On," John Doe
"Ring Them Bells," Sufjan Stevens
"Señor (Tales of Yankee Power)," Willie Nelson and Calexico
"Simple Twist of Fate," Jeff Tweedy
"Stuck Inside of Mobile With Memphis Blues Again," Cat Power
"The Times They Are a Changin'," Mason Jennings
"Tombstone Blues," Richie Havens
"When The Ship Comes In," Marcus Carl Franklin
"Wicked Messenger," the Black Keys
"You Ain't Goin 'Nowhere," Glen Hansard and Marketa Irglova
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Post by: sweatboard on Aug 14, 2007, 10:58 AM
The thought of Stephen Malkmus and Lee Renaldo doing ANYTHING together is almost to much to handle.
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Post by: aMD on Aug 14, 2007, 07:45 PM
QuoteThe thought of Stephen Malkmus and Lee Renaldo doing ANYTHING together is almost to much to handle.

Can't Leave her behind is an amazing song!!!  It's an unreleased song that only appears in a documentary that was never released.  The doc is called Eat the Document.  It was shot by DA Pennybaker, the same guy who did Dylan's Don't Look Back a year prior.  It was edited by Dylan himself which may be some explanation for why this song gets cut off abruptly in the middle of the song.  I wonder if they got a copy of the whole song!?!  my mouth's watering  :D

I saw you asked about rolling thunder review era and the pancake makeup stuff in one of the other various threads about this movie/soundtrack.  Rolling thunder review era dylan was late 74 into early 1978, though the thrust of this time period comes in 1975-76 with the Rolling thunder review tour and the release of desire and blood on the tracks, two of dylan's best albums depending on who you ask.  This era followed the "Lost Years"(1966-1973) in which dylan was mainly in seclusion and precedes the "christian era"(1978-82) in which dylan was trying to alienate his fans in a totally different way. The rolling thunder era was a much more honest, purely artistic era then the other two eras i mentioned.  

The rolling thunder review featured joan baez, roger mcguinn, allen ginsberg, tbone burnett, scarlet riveria, ramblin jack elliot, and others.

after the rolling thunder review tours (I & II), Dylan played one more concert that belongs to this era, The Band's "farewell" concert in which they shot the Last Waltz.   :o

I certainly can't say why he wore that white makeup on his face through this era. who knows why dylan does anything he does.  the more i learn about dylan the more i learn that i don't know anything about bob dylan.

One thing I can't understand though is that Going to Acapulco is from the Basement Tapes (circa 1967ish, deep in the Lost Years) while the whitemakeup stuff was all in 1975-76.  ten years later??  might they do a different song?  or is that picture not exactly from the rolling thunder review era?  one would assume that rolling stone would know their shit, but maybe not.

sorry for the novel, but you getting me talkin dylan and I could go all night.  ;D
Title: Re: What's This?
Post by: ManNamedTruth on Aug 14, 2007, 10:13 PM
The Live Bootleg vol. 5 1975 is one of my favorite live albums, i reccomend.
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Post by: ManNamedTruth on Aug 14, 2007, 10:15 PM
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QuoteThe thought of Stephen Malkmus and Lee Renaldo doing ANYTHING together is almost to much to handle.

Can't Leave her behind is an amazing song!!!  It's an unreleased song that only appears in a documentary that was never released.  The doc is called Eat the Document.  It was shot by DA Pennybaker, the same guy who did Dylan's Don't Look Back a year prior.  It was edited by Dylan himself which may be some explanation for why this song gets cut off abruptly in the middle of the song.  I wonder if they got a copy of the whole song!?!  my mouth's watering  :D

I saw you asked about rolling thunder review era and the pancake makeup stuff in one of the other various threads about this movie/soundtrack.  Rolling thunder review era dylan was late 74 into early 1978, though the thrust of this time period comes in 1975-76 with the Rolling thunder review tour and the release of desire and blood on the tracks, two of dylan's best albums depending on who you ask.  This era followed the "Lost Years"(1966-1973) in which dylan was mainly in seclusion and precedes the "christian era"(1978-82) in which dylan was trying to alienate his fans in a totally different way. The rolling thunder era was a much more honest, purely artistic era then the other two eras i mentioned.  

The rolling thunder review featured joan baez, roger mcguinn, allen ginsberg, tbone burnett, scarlet riveria, ramblin jack elliot, and others.

after the rolling thunder review tours (I & II), Dylan played one more concert that belongs to this era, The Band's "farewell" concert in which they shot the Last Waltz.   :o

I certainly can't say why he wore that white makeup on his face through this era. who knows why dylan does anything he does.  the more i learn about dylan the more i learn that i don't know anything about bob dylan.

One thing I can't understand though is that Going to Acapulco is from the Basement Tapes (circa 1967ish, deep in the Lost Years) while the whitemakeup stuff was all in 1975-76.  ten years later??  might they do a different song?  or is that picture not exactly from the rolling thunder review era?  one would assume that rolling stone would know their shit, but maybe not.

sorry for the novel, but you getting me talkin dylan and I could go all night.  ;D
Maybe he does a different song in the movie than from the soundtrack?
Title: Re: What's This?
Post by: CC on Aug 15, 2007, 03:08 AM
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One thing I can't understand though is that Going to Acapulco is from the Basement Tapes (circa 1967ish, deep in the Lost Years) while the whitemakeup stuff was all in 1975-76.  ten years later??  might they do a different song?  or is that picture not exactly from the rolling thunder review era?  one would assume that rolling stone would know their shit, but maybe not.

sorry for the novel, but you getting me talkin dylan and I could go all night.  ;D
Maybe he does a different song in the movie than from the soundtrack?

it was recorded in 1967 but not officially released till 1975.
Title: Re: What's This?
Post by: aMD on Aug 15, 2007, 06:15 AM
yeah, i knew that and was going to mention it, but in my mind the basement tapes belong solely to the lost years.  the gaslight tapes weren't released till two years ago but i would still count that as early dylan since it was recorded in 1962 despite the fact it was released in the 2000s.  maybe i'm being nit-picky but that's what dylan fans are going to do to this film, I assure you.  then again, all this is not within the context of the film itself, so we'll see...

but i still say it's a stretch to say that going to alcapulco is rolling thunder review era dylan.
Title: Re: What's This?
Post by: JohnnyRage on Aug 15, 2007, 10:35 AM
(http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drf500/f592/f59274hxdrb.jpg)
Title: Re: What's This?
Post by: BH on Aug 15, 2007, 11:30 AM
But, did he play it live during the Rolling Thunder Review era/tour?
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Post by: aMD on Aug 15, 2007, 04:50 PM
QuoteBut, did he play it live during the Rolling Thunder Review era/tour?

No, to my knowledge he's never played it live.  i'll do some research, but i'm almost positive he didn't play it during this time period.
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Post by: aMD on Aug 15, 2007, 06:52 PM
Confirmed.  No Going to Alcapulco on either Rolling Thunder Review Tour.

And, I'm sorry, but this picture doesn't scream Rolling Thunder Review Thour Era, or any Dylan era for that matter, other than the white makeup.  I don't know what's going on in that pic of Jim, but it ain't the rolling thunder review, IMO. check it out:

(http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/img/7/0/4/3/15883407-15883409-large.jpg)

(http://www.maggiesfarm.it/bs5u.jpg)
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Post by: The DARK on Aug 15, 2007, 06:54 PM
QuoteConfirmed.  No Going to Alcapulco on either Rolling Thunder Review Tour.

And, I'm sorry, but this picture doesn't scream Rolling Thunder Review Thour Era, or any Dylan era for that matter, other than the white makeup.  I don't know what's going on in that pic of Jim, but it ain't the rolling thunder review, IMO. check it out:

(http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/img/7/0/4/3/15883407-15883409-large.jpg)

(http://www.maggiesfarm.it/bs5u.jpg)

Sorry??? This is good news! If this director knows his Dylan, we'll have 2 Jim covers to look forward to!
Title: Re: What's This?
Post by: aMD on Aug 15, 2007, 07:03 PM
Quote
QuoteConfirmed.  No Going to Alcapulco on either Rolling Thunder Review Tour.

And, I'm sorry, but this picture doesn't scream Rolling Thunder Review Thour Era, or any Dylan era for that matter, other than the white makeup.  I don't know what's going on in that pic of Jim, but it ain't the rolling thunder review, IMO. check it out:

(http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/img/7/0/4/3/15883407-15883409-large.jpg)

(http://www.maggiesfarm.it/bs5u.jpg)

Sorry??? This is good news! If this director knows his Dylan, we'll have 2 Jim covers to look forward to!

That would be nice, but my theory is that he sings going to alcapulco in the surreal scene pictured and the dude from rolling stone doesn't know his shit. but I hope I'm wrong and we get two new covers
Title: Re: What's This?
Post by: BH on Aug 15, 2007, 09:00 PM
I think maybe it's just a little of what they call "Artistic Liberties"

Hollywood is usually more interested in a good story than total accuracy.

I always found it interesting in "Walk The Line" how they changed the dialog from the folsom prison scene, when anybody that has the CD knows it didn't go quite like that.  I mean, why not just make it accurate?  It was just fine the way it was.
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Post by: JohnnyRage on Aug 15, 2007, 10:36 PM
Don't you think that Dylan had a vision for what his Rolling Thunder Review was supposed to be honoring or intending to emulate?

Like the Rolling Stones - Rock n Roll Circus?

The result is a contemporary rock n roll show, but you were honoring something different.

How much this applies, dunno?