I mean.....
-Coming off of a small hiatus and playing an amazing tour with the Preservation hall jazz band
-Great television performances (Letterman, Jimmy Fallon)
-TERMINAL 5!!!
-Long awaited Hometown reunion show (Louisville Oct. 29th)
-Great festival appearances (Outside lands, Jazzfest, Voodoo)
-writing a new album due out 2011
QuoteI mean.....
-Coming off of a small hiatus and playing an amazing tour with the Preservation hall jazz band
-Great television performances (Letterman, Jimmy Fallon)
-TERMINAL 5!!!
-Long awaited Hometown reunion show (Louisville Oct. 29th)
-Great festival appearances (Outside lands, Jazzfest, Voodoo)
-writing a new album due out 2011
Don't forget - opening up for Tom Petty, playing Levon Helm's midnight Ramble, Carl releasing solo work.
It's a good year for MMJ
...jim james and the roots?
Yea you guys are right, i especially cant believe i forgot JJ and the roots, Dear God 2.0 is amazing. I also forgot Appalachain Voices
I don't think it's their best year by a longshot. There seems to be much less buzz about MMJ. The fact that they didn't play Lollapalooza, Bonnaroo, or ACL indicates this. While Evil Urges was a solid album and seems like it was part of the distant past, it's their most recent, and in no uncertain terms, it cannot compare with either Z or It Still Moves. Maybe my opinion of 2010 stems from only being able to see them once :(.
I'm looking forward to a new album in 2011 and many more shows!
QuoteI don't think it's their best year by a longshot. There seems to be much less buzz about MMJ. The fact that they didn't play Lollapalooza, Bonnaroo, or ACL indicates this. While Evil Urges was a solid album and seems like it was part of the distant past, it's their most recent, and in no uncertain terms, it cannot compare with either Z or It Still Moves. Maybe my opinion of 2010 stems from only being able to see them once :(.
I'm looking forward to a new album in 2011 and many more shows!
I can agree with the fact that there may not be as much buzz around MMJ as there was in say 06 or 08, but i have to say I completly disagree with the fact that Evil Urges doesnt compare to ISM or Z. I enjoy all 5 MMJ albums equally, and each for different reasons, which is partly what makes the band so great in my eyes (that and their un-paralled live show).
Also, the fact that Evil Urges is their most recent album is completly normal for MMJ, they always wait at least 2 years between albums:
Tennessee Fire - 1999
At dawn - 2001
It Still Moves - 2003
Z - 2005
EvilUrges - 2008
New album - 2011
They did far more this year on top of what's mentioned. If were going solely off of shows and released material, I dont think 2010 is the best year. T5 is the epitome of 2010. In 2006 Z(still fresh from 05), Okonokos, and NYE (RS 5th best show of the last decade). I honestly think one epic show is more exciting and unpredictable than T5. Not that t5 isn't AMAZING. Or when the newest Bandmates were added. I just think there are too many epic things to pinpoint any one year as better than the others
I'd say 2005 was their best year; when I saw them 6x in 6 months (Birmingham, Athens, Knoxville, Nashville, Cincinnati, Louisville)
QuoteI honestly think one epic show is more exciting and unpredictable than T5.
But....T5 is 5 epic shows. ;)
QuoteI don't think it's their best year by a longshot. There seems to be much less buzz about MMJ. The fact that they didn't play Lollapalooza, Bonnaroo, or ACL indicates this. While Evil Urges was a solid album and seems like it was part of the distant past, it's their most recent, and in no uncertain terms, it cannot compare with either Z or It Still Moves. Maybe my opinion of 2010 stems from only being able to see them once :(.
I'm looking forward to a new album in 2011 and many more shows!
They fulfilled a dream of playing at the Ramble, Jazz Fest, and a ton of other great shows. Their choice not to play Bonnaroo (a shitty over commercialized festival headlined by KOL and DMB-worst year yet) was a good one because they would have had to have outdone their 2008 performances without a new album. They keep getting bigger and bigger, and EU wasn't anyone's favorite MMJ album, it created a buzz so that even the people who didn't care for it are excited about the new album. My boss even learned about JJ last night when he went to the Beacon thing, and he said he was blown away, (think he played Look at You?). Word keeps getting out about these guys, and not just from me. 2010 was a HUGE year for them but certainly not their biggest. They're not a festival band, they're not umphrees mcgee out to play the big festivals year after year....they were always always always more than that.
I'm excited for the future.
08 was a pretty damn good year for them.
sxsw, coachella, EPIC bonnaroo, EPIC radio city, european tour, acl tv show, red rocks, EPIC MSG NYE...to name a few.
QuoteQuoteI honestly think one epic show is more exciting and unpredictable than T5.
But....T5 is 5 epic shows. ;)
While I will not be in attendence at the T5, they can hardly be considered epic. Bonnaroo late night-that's epic. 3+ hours of greatness.
Um, no, these shows are most definitely epic.
Radio City was EPIC. I heard it from the man himself on friday night, he said that was his favorite MMJ show ever.
I think 2008 is hard to top..new album, tons of buzz...Bonnaroo, Radio City, MSG...that is the year they really took it to another level...that was really the year people who didn't know about MMJ found out.
Right now I think they are kind of just creating buzz for what's to come. 2011 will be the year..new album, tour..right now they are just kind of riding the success they had in 08'. that is what is allowing them to do what they want to do now.
QuoteUm, no, these shows are most definitely epic.
Agreed
QuoteQuoteQuoteI honestly think one epic show is more exciting and unpredictable than T5.
But....T5 is 5 epic shows. ;)
While I will not be in attendence at the T5, they can hardly be considered epic. Bonnaroo late night-that's epic. 3+ hours of greatness.
An argument over which show was more "epic". ;D
They must be doing
something right.
The most "epic" thing I ever seen was closing with It's About Twilight at the 40 Watt in 2005 with a bunch of screaming, sweaty lunatics in a smokey, sardine can!
QuoteQuoteQuoteI honestly think one epic show is more exciting and unpredictable than T5.
But....T5 is 5 epic shows. ;)
While I will not be in attendence at the T5, they can hardly be considered epic. Bonnaroo late night-that's epic. 3+ hours of greatness.
While the TTF and At Dawn shows may not be epic in terms of length, anyone of us in attendance will tell you that they were all kinds of epic in terms of the performance.
I've been a fan and going to shows since 2004, and this is my favorite year of MMJ. The show spring and summer shows I saw (Merriewather in May and Philly in August) had a seriously majestic quality to them, even if they were shorter than the '08 tour shows.
And T5 thus far has been off the hook. I was originally just going to attend the first two T5 shows, but they were so damn good that I rearranged things to travel back to NYC for the last two.
and that's a good thing. looking forward to seeing you at the remaining shows!
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While I will not be in attendence at the T5, they can hardly be considered epic. Bonnaroo late night-that's epic. 3+ hours of greatness.
they're plenty epic and your post is plenty bullshit.
(you just said, you're not in attendance so how would you know?)
i was at bonnaroo 2006 and 2008 and this is JUST in those ballparks if not more because it's not just the shows, it's the pilgrimmage of hundreds of MMJ fans congregating from all over (Australia, Japan) to experience that. So because the sets are an hour longer, doesn't take anything away from this run. Plus J Quaid all week, and a down the street performance by Carl.. (the only thing missing is the rain!)
but tell yourself whatever you want to feel better..
QuoteQuoteQuoteI honestly think one epic show is more exciting and unpredictable than T5.
But....T5 is 5 epic shows. ;)
While I will not be in attendence at the T5, they can hardly be considered epic.
Um.....no.
I've never seen the Mona Lisa, therefore it sucks.
I have seen the art my niece made on my refrigerator. It's really good for a 7 year old.
QuoteQuote
While I will not be in attendence at the T5, they can hardly be considered epic. Bonnaroo late night-that's epic. 3+ hours of greatness.
they're plenty epic and your post is plenty bullshit.
(you just said, you're not in attendance so how would you know?)
i was at bonnaroo 2006 and 2008 and this is JUST in those ballparks if not more because it's not just the shows, it's the pilgrimmage of hundreds of MMJ fans congregating from all over (Australia, Japan) to experience that. So because the sets are an hour longer, doesn't take anything away from this run. Plus J Quaid all week, and a down the street performance by Carl.. (the only thing missing is the rain!)
but tell yourself whatever you want to feel better..
You Go Girl!
Here's how I feel about T5... probably the greatest week for Jacket fans possible. Truely amazing that so many get to see almost their entire catalogue. However... Having the feeling of going to one show, wondering what theyre going to play, and then being BLOWN away by a 4 hour set that started at midnight is incredible. I am in no way trying to discredit T5. But something about a single show (that doesn't cost 1000+ dollars to attend) is more organic and exciting sounding. To each their own though... we dont need to argue about what is more amazing about the most amazing band.
QuoteI've never seen the Mona Lisa, therefore it sucks.
I have seen the art my niece made on my refrigerator. It's really good for a 7 year old.
I get where you're going, and I agree... But the Mona Lisa is soooo lame in real life.
Don't get me wrong, I wish I could be at these shows. I'm sure the band is in great form (they were at my only show of the year in Chicago at Charter One).
I still feel like the band has lost some steam. I love Evil Urges, but most people felt like it was a step back rather than forward. I think that feeling has carried over since the NYE show at MSG. They didn't even come close to selling out a 7500 seat venue on a gorgeous late summer evening in Chicago. There were probably 3500 people there.
Maybe I'm wrong.
I have no doubt the new album will be great and I'll get to see my favorite band many more times in the coming year.
There is nothing like a Grateful Dead show, except a MMJ show :)
QuoteDon't get me wrong, I wish I could be at these shows. I'm sure the band is in great form (they were at my only show of the year in Chicago at Charter One).
I still feel like the band has lost some steam. I love Evil Urges, but most people felt like it was a step back rather than forward. I think that feeling has carried over since the NYE show at MSG. They didn't even come close to selling out a 7500 seat venue on a gorgeous late summer evening in Chicago. There were probably 3500 people there.
Maybe I'm wrong.
I have no doubt the new album will be great and I'll get to see my favorite band many more times in the coming year.
There is nothing like a Grateful Dead show, except a MMJ show :)
A lot of their steam came from fairweather fans who wanted to hear I'm Amazed played 5 times and then leave. Of course they're not going to hit a 7500 seat venue capacity. They're also not in the same point career-wise that will have an automatic capacity on an album-less year.
Compare them to another band that has had a significant following for only 7 or 8 years and they're ahead of the game.
Oooh Don't forget Valentines day. To see Jim with only 300 peeps in that venue on that night was amazing. my.o2 cents.
Well aren't you the expert on everything. Bullshit? I was merely stating my opinion based on what my defintion of EPIC is. Something that is epic is lengthy and far reaching. Not sure if an album played in its entirely would be either lengthy or far reaching.
Pour yourself another drink, but make sure there isn't piss in it like the last one you drank.
QuoteWell aren't you the expert on everything. Bullshit? I was merely stating my opinion based on what my defintion of EPIC is. Something that is epic is lengthy and far reaching. Not sure if an album played in its entirely would be either lengthy or far reaching.
Pour yourself another drink, but make sure there isn't piss in it like the last one you drank.
So now we're debating what "epic" means?
QuoteQuoteWell aren't you the expert on everything. Bullshit? I was merely stating my opinion based on what my defintion of EPIC is. Something that is epic is lengthy and far reaching. Not sure if an album played in its entirely would be either lengthy or far reaching.
Pour yourself another drink, but make sure there isn't piss in it like the last one you drank.
So now we're debating what "epic" means?
Duh.. thats already been done:
Can you feel it ,see it, hear it today?
If you can't, then it doesn't matter anyway
You will never understand it 'cause it happens too fast
And it feels so good, it's like walking on glass
It's so cool, it's so hip, it's alright
It's so groovy, it's outta sight
You can touch it, smell it, taste it so sweet
But it makes no difference 'cause it knocks you off your feet
You want it all but you can't have it
It's cryin', bleedin', lying on the floor
So you lay down on it and you do it some more
You've got to share it, so you dare it
Then you bare it and you tear it
You want it all but you can't have it
It's in your face but you can't grab it
It's alive, afraid, a lie, a sin
It's magit, it's tragic, it's a loss, it's a win
It's dark, it's moist, it's a bitter pain
It's sad it happened and it's a shame
You want it all but you can't have it
It's in your face but you can't grab it
What is it?
It's it
What is it?...
;D
QuoteOooh Don't forget Valentines day. To see Jim with only 300 peeps in that venue on that night was amazing. my.o2 cents.
True, I have beat myself up for not going to that show ever since
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[ep-ik]
–adjective Also, ep·i·cal.
1. noting or pertaining to a long poetic composition, usually centered upon a hero, in which a series of great achievements or events is narrated in elevated style: Homer's Iliad is an epic poem.
2. resembling or suggesting such poetry: an epic novel on the founding of the country.
3. heroic; majestic; impressively great: the epic events of the war.
4. of unusually great size or extent: a crime wave of epic proportions.
best year? right now
[size=8]I feel left out.[/size]
Epic.
[size=8]There, that's better.[/size]
Is it the best year to be a MMJ fan?
Is it the best year for MMJ commercially?
Two totally seperate things. I think it's pretty silly to speculate on how the band is doing because we don't know; don't even know their goals, really.
As far as best year to be a fan? I would say for me, yes. Two shows that stand out as fantastic face-melters are Merriweather and Holyoke. And how can T5 not be epic? Just because you know the (pre-encore) setlist doesn't mean a thing. The vibe here is fantastic.
I used to see ads for fantasy camp where you can go play sports with your childhood heroes. I thought that was a ridiculous luxury for spoiled people.
I actually kinda get it. We are in the midst of a week-long MMJ fantasy camp. Last night's Carl show was so over-the-top good for a fan. Take a bar the size of my neighborhood hangout, add 4/5ths of MMJ for a set 5 feet away, then hang out at the bar with the band and 40 of the nicest hardcore forumites. Uh, yeah. I'm having the time of my life.
QuoteIs it the best year to be a MMJ fan?
Is it the best year for MMJ commercially?
Two totally seperate things. I think it's pretty silly to speculate on how the band is doing because we don't know; don't even know their goals, really.
As far as best year to be a fan? I would say for me, yes. Two shows that stand out as fantastic face-melters are Merriweather and Holyoke. And how can T5 not be epic? Just because you know the (pre-encore) setlist doesn't mean a thing. The vibe here is fantastic.
I used to see ads for fantasy camp where you can go play sports with your childhood heroes. I thought that was a ridiculous luxury for spoiled people.
I actually kinda get it. We are in the midst of a week-long MMJ fantasy camp. Last night's Carl show was so over-the-top good for a fan. Take a bar the size of my neighborhood hangout, add 4/5ths of MMJ for a set 5 feet away, then hang out at the bar with the band and 40 of the nicest hardcore forumites. Uh, yeah. I'm having the time of my life.
Fantasy Camp! Perfect.
Quote[size=8]I feel left out.[/size]
Epic.
[size=8]There, that's better.[/size]
We are gonna party hard next week, flyguy! ;) :)
QuoteQuote[size=8]I feel left out.[/size]
Epic.
[size=8]There, that's better.[/size]
We are gonna party hard next week, flyguy! ;) :)
You better rest up and take your vitamins.
Oh, and rehydrate.
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I actually kinda get it. We are in the midst of a week-long MMJ fantasy camp. Last night's Carl show was so over-the-top good for a fan. Take a bar the size of my neighborhood hangout, add 4/5ths of MMJ for a set 5 feet away, then hang out at the bar with the band and 40 of the nicest hardcore forumites. Uh, yeah. I'm having the time of my life.
Now THAT sounds fucking amazing. I envy you all so much. Faith can't afford what the wallet won't resolve. :(
it would have been better if they came to michigan. fucking pussies, I swear. they can't handle detroit rock city.
I think the show was very Epic. For me it was every bit as epic as MSG. just look at these stats. then add in the great ones that aren't on it. T5 is extremely "epic" even if it's spread over 5 night
5. Old September Blues (Last played 2007 - full band)
6. If All Else Fails (live debut)
7. It's About Twilight Now (last played 2006)
10. Picture Of You (last played 2006)
13. By My Car (last played 2006 - full band)
14. Butch Cassidy (second time ever)
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16. I Just Wanted To Say (First time played)
17. Rocket Man (Last Played 2001)
18. Weeks Go By Like Days (last played 2000)
20. White Rabbit (Last Played 2000)
21. Hot Legs (last played 2000)
22. Lil Billy (last played 2002)
I'm insanely jealous of T5'ers. I would have to say '06 was the breakout year, '08 was the "best" and "breakthrough" (to stratosphere) year and 2011 will be MMJ's year to hopefully reclaim the title (that we gave them long ago) as America's Greatest Rock Band amongst the general consensus of casual fans, one-timers, and critics alike.
QuoteI'd say 2005 was their best year; [highlight]when I saw them 6x in 6 months[/highlight] (Birmingham, Athens, Knoxville, Nashville, Cincinnati, Louisville)
That's me right now.
I don't know if this is their best year altogether since I'm a newer fan, but this is definately a great time to be a Jacket fan. :)
I honestly cant imagine what it must have been like to have been at T5. Last week will go down in MMJ history, and I am so jelous of everyone that was there.