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Title: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: peanut butter puddin surprise on Dec 07, 2004, 11:19 AM
after jamming to "freebird" unabashedly in the car just now, it occurred to me that the long assed solos at the end might be the finest thing skynrd ever did.  soooooooooo, here's my list of my favorite guitar solos (in no particular order)

-the end of "Black Dog" by Zepp

-the end of "Freebird"

-"Come Together", the Beatles

-"Honest Man"...c'mon, you know you like it

-"Spirit of Radio, Rush

-"Europa", Santana

-"'Cause we ended as Lovers", Jeff Beck

what's your short list of fav solos??
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: antoniostrohs on Dec 07, 2004, 12:12 PM
Mine are mostly old school and there are so many I love(anything Hendrix).But here are a few that will always bring out the air guitar.

Led Zep   "Heartbreaker"
Neil Young  "Like a Hurricane"
Frank Zappa  "Yo' Mama"
Steely Dan  "Reeling in the Years"
King Crimsom   "Red"
Yes           "Roundabout"
Genesis        "It"
Queen   "Bohemian Rhapsody"
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: marktwain on Dec 07, 2004, 12:19 PM
Say what you will about me, but I will maintain that the solo in "Sweet Child of Mine" by Guns 'n' Roses is perhaps the finest ever.

elsewhere on the list:

-I agree w/ "Honest Man" - love the dueling guitars
-"Sam" by Boss Hog - I think it's only 2 notes - beautiful minimalist noise rock!

That's all I can think of right now!
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: corey on Dec 07, 2004, 12:45 PM
Hey! I meant to start a thread similar to this not too long ago because I realized just how damn cool the solo in "Whole Lotta Love" is. That's a damn fine solo of there ever was one. It's not blazing fast or anything, it just fits the song so damn well.
I also think that the solo to "Sweet Child o'Mine" is great. I recently caved in and listened to some GNR for the first time in MANY years. I remembered how good some of that old stuff is. I need to check out Velvet Revolver's album. Anyone have any thoughts?
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: Jellyfish on Dec 07, 2004, 01:04 PM
Pink Floyd "Comfortably Numb".
Jimi Hendrix "Star Spangled Banner" from Woodstock.
Neil Young "Cortez the Killer" from Live Rust.
Frank Zappa from Zoot Allures.."Black Napkins"
The Allman Bros."In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed"
Buffalo Springfield "Bluebird"(Stephen Stills)
Dire Straits "Sultans of Swing"
Lou Reed "Sweet Jane" from Rock n Roll Animal
I could name a million live Dead shows with Garcia.
The same with Stevie Ray Vaughn,too many to list.
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: peanut butter puddin surprise on Dec 07, 2004, 01:34 PM
Just hearing anything with Slash and Co. playing is better than a lot of commercial crap these days...seems like everyone is playing musical chairs with bands.

nuthin' wrong with Sweet child o mine, great tune.  also, the old skool has the most solos anyway, so that's what I was aiming at...

and damn it if I didn't forget about Neil Young!
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: Jellyfish on Dec 07, 2004, 02:30 PM
Quoteand damn it if I didn't forget about Neil Young!  

Well,don't let it happen again. ;)
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: dogandponyshow on Dec 07, 2004, 02:59 PM
Van Halen....Ain't talking about Love
Ted Nugent....Stranglehold
UFO....Rock Bottom(little M. Schenker)

I agree completely with Jellyfish in regards to Jerry Garcia...way to many to come up with.

D.
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: The Boar on Dec 07, 2004, 03:27 PM
Wow, great thread, though a lot of mine have been taken already:

Led Zeppelin - Ten Years Gone
Led Zeppelin - Achilles Last Stand
Led Zeppelin - All My Love
Pink Floyd - Comfortably Numb
Neil Young - Like a Hurricane
Nirvana - In Bloom
Pearl Jam - Alive
Dire Straits - Sultans of Swing
The Outlaws - Green Grass and High Tides
Lynyrd Skynyrd - Call Me the Breeze (more of a jam session than a guitar solo)
Wilco - At Least That's What You Said
Radiohead - Just
My Morning Jacket - It's About Twilight Now (talk about minimalist)
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: SmoothOprtr on Dec 07, 2004, 05:06 PM
Ditto on Comfortably Numb and Free Bird

No Rain- Blind Melon
Every Body Wants to Rule the World- Tears for Fears
Killers- Iron Maiden
One Big Holiday- MMJ (come on guys!)
Runnin Down a Dream- Tom Petty
Painkiller- Judas Priest
Planet Caravan- Black Sabbath
Kick Start My Heart- M. Crue
The Legacy- Testament
Cult of Personality- Living Colour
Biding My Time- Pink Floyd
Beat It- Michael Jackson

Fuck! How many am I missing!  I have spent my whole life playing air guitar, being made fun of, and waiting for someone to ask this question!  I feel like Ralphie on Santa's lap!
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: MMJ_fanatic on Dec 07, 2004, 05:34 PM
QuoteHey! I meant to start a thread similar to this not too long ago because I realized just how damn cool the solo in "Whole Lotta Love" is. That's a damn fine solo of there ever was one. It's not blazing fast or anything, it just fits the song so damn well.
I also think that the solo to "Sweet Child o'Mine" is great. I recently caved in and listened to some GNR for the first time in MANY years. I remembered how good some of that old stuff is. I need to check out Velvet Revolver's album. Anyone have any thoughts?
I borrowed my buddy's copy and have to say that Velvet Revolver didn't put much artistice effort into this release--try to borrow a copy from someone to check it out before you drop $12-16 on it 'wiggum
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: sweatboard on Dec 07, 2004, 05:53 PM
1. Ted Nuggent - Stranglehold (It's a face melter!)
2. Pearl Jam - Evenflow (It needs to be a live version though, Mike's probably done the solo 2000 times and not once the same.)
3. Pink Floyd - (Every solo David Gilmore ever did)
4. My Morning Jacket - One Big Holliday (Sheer Bliss)
5. Pearl Jam - Yellow Ledbetter (Make Me Cry!!!!!!!!!)
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: EC on Dec 07, 2004, 10:58 PM
QuoteI feel like Ralphie on Santa's lap!
Hooorraaayy!!

Okay, here's my list:

Just about what everybody else said, plus:
More Than a Feeling - Boston
I can't decide which Van Halen to pick
I really like the solo in Folsom Prison Blues
Shine on You Crazy Diamond
Paranoid Android

Fuck I forgot about Heart.
Can't think.
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: The Boar on Dec 07, 2004, 11:41 PM
(Hey, EC - I love that icon of yours. Did you take that picture? It is very Jacketesque.)
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: peanut butter puddin surprise on Dec 08, 2004, 12:22 PM
QuoteDitto on Comfortably Numb and Free Bird

No Rain- Blind Melon
Every Body Wants to Rule the World- Tears for Fears
Killers- Iron Maiden
One Big Holiday- MMJ (come on guys!)
Runnin Down a Dream- Tom Petty
Painkiller- Judas Priest
Planet Caravan- Black Sabbath
Kick Start My Heart- M. Crue
The Legacy- Testament
Cult of Personality- Living Colour
Biding My Time- Pink Floyd
Beat It- Michael Jackson

Fuck! How many am I missing!  I have spent my whole life playing air guitar, being made fun of, and waiting for someone to ask this question!  I feel like Ralphie on Santa's lap!

awesome list!  i forgot all about Living Colour...damn it!

I think you're right...I've spent my days driving around in my shitty car with my shitty stereo, air guitaring and air drumming to just about everything!  
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: SmoothOprtr on Dec 08, 2004, 07:20 PM
Thanks dude!  Great topic!
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: MMJ_fanatic on Dec 08, 2004, 10:26 PM
Limbers his fingers....

Jimi Hendrix: "Who Knows" (Band of Gypsies)
Cream (Eric Clapton): "Spoonful" (Wheels of Fire)
Jimi Hendrix: Voodoo Chile (Slight Return)
Stevie Ray Vaughn: "Couldn't Stand the Weather"
Steve Vai: "For The Love of God"
Joe Satriani: "Flavor Crystal 7"
Frank Zappa: "Watermelon in Easter Hay"
Dire Straits: "Skateaway"
Allman Brothers (Duane/Dickey): "Stormy Monday" (At
                 Fillmore East)
Foghat: "Slow Ride" (LIVE!)
Peter Frampton: "Lines on My Face" (Comes Alive)
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: EC on Dec 09, 2004, 01:14 AM
Quote(Hey, EC - I love that icon of yours. Did you take that picture? It is very Jacketesque.)

Hey, cool!  I did take that picture from my back deck a couple of weeks ago.  The moon was really great and bright, although you can't tell because it's so tiny here.  

Your picture is pretty durn great as well!
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: lfish on Dec 09, 2004, 04:56 AM
Pearl Jam - Alive
Neil Young - Cowgirl in the sand (live road rock version)
Pink Floyd - Comfortably numb ( Live Pulse version)
Neil young - Cortez the killer
Neil young - Like a hurricane
Led Zeppelin - Since I been loving you
The eagles - hotel california live
Metallica - One
Jimi Hendrix - The wind cries mary
Dick dale - Misirlou
ZZ top - 2000 Blues
And so on and so on ...
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: SmoothOprtr on Dec 09, 2004, 05:04 AM
Good call on the Dire Straits MMj Fanatic...

I think Brian Setzer is another player who is noticably absent from all lists...
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: dwight on Dec 09, 2004, 07:33 AM
Have not spent enormous time contemplating this but here are a few that the rest of the site may have overlooked.

War Begun - Live
Eruption
Flirting With Disaster
and anything Jimmy Page did
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: Billy_Pilgrim on Dec 09, 2004, 11:55 AM
Great topic!

There are 2 solos that really stand out for me at the moment (mainly because I listened to the album today) from Love is Hell 1 by Ryan Adams. The Shadowlands and Avalanche are both played out by stunning solos performed by Greg Leisz, who I know a criminally small amount about. The one at the end of Shadowlands is especially haunting.

Eurption by Van Halen has alwyas been one of my favourites.

I also agree with anything Hendrix or Page produced.
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: MMJ_fanatic on Dec 09, 2004, 08:09 PM
Oooh Oooh Mr Kotter!  Last minute addition:  I LOVE the guitar work in Lucinda Williams' "Righteously"!

AND how could I forget to include Lou Reed's "Sweet Jane" (LIVE from "Rock and Roll Animal")!
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: Chills on Dec 12, 2004, 11:17 AM
These are nice... some were probably already mentioned as they seem to be 'classic'!

Like a hurricane: Neil Young
Little wing: Jimi Hendrix
Whole lotta love: Led Zep
I put a spell on you: CCR
Gun: John Cale
Just a man: Los Lobos
The thrill is gone; BB King
Amphetamine: Steve Wynn and the miracle three
No Fun: The Stooges
Marquee Moon: Television
Revelation mother earth: Ozzy Osbourne
Know your enemy: RATM
Till the end of the day: The Kinks



Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: MMJ_fanatic on Dec 12, 2004, 11:47 AM
ooo ya--always loved Revelation Mother Earth!  good call!
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: marktwain on Dec 12, 2004, 01:58 PM
Quote
The thrill is gone; BB King
Marquee Moon: Television


These are great!  definitely on my list
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: peanut butter puddin surprise on Dec 13, 2004, 05:38 AM
just heard some frampton in the car, and i'm adding "do you feel like we do" from frampton comes alive...cheesy, but what a kick ass solo.
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: ben grimm on Dec 13, 2004, 06:49 AM
Cinamon Girl-Neil Young
Just-Radiohead
Mind over money-Turin Brakes
Shapes Of Things To Come-The Yardbirds
The Ocean- Zep
Killer Queen-Queen
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: MMJ_fanatic on Dec 13, 2004, 05:36 PM
Quotejust heard some frampton in the car, and i'm adding "do you feel like we do" from frampton comes alive...cheesy, but what a kick ass solo.

c'mon now! Peter's a lovely guy (and plays a pretty mean geetar when he wants)! :D
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: peanut butter puddin surprise on Dec 14, 2004, 07:47 AM
hey man, i had a total obsession with FCA back in the day...from start to finish, that record is great...you are correct, he does play a mean gittr when he wants to!
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: marktwain on Dec 16, 2004, 04:53 PM
thought of one more:  the bit at the end of "stop breathin" by Pavement (off crooked rain, crooked rain) it starts to get kind of dissonant in a really good way -it's so good it's ridiculous. I haven't listened to that album in years, and I started thinking about that part on the way to work this afternoon, and now I'm completely jonesing to hear it - can't wait to get home!
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: wordawg on Dec 20, 2004, 04:13 AM
Steely Dan - Kid Charlemagne, from The Royal Scam.
Zappa - just about anything, but especially the Hot Rats album.
Hendrix - Like a Rolling Stone (live version)
Derek & the Dominoes - Key to the Highway/Have you ever loved a woman
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: antoniostrohs on Dec 20, 2004, 05:29 AM
Love your taste Greggy,some real guitar gods on your list.Especially Zappa,who a lot of people tend to not to take too seriously because on the humour and sarcasm in his music.
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: peanut butter puddin surprise on Dec 20, 2004, 11:25 AM
"pajama people" is still one of my favorite songs... :)
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solo
Post by: fitzcarraldo on Dec 21, 2004, 11:13 AM
Jane's Addiction - Three Days
Always makes me do this:  :o
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: wordawg on Dec 23, 2004, 11:33 AM
What's Going On - Taste.
One of the first solos I ever heard that made stop in my tracks.  Long time ago and haven't heard it for years, but still remember it.  Rory, what a man.
(Was he big in the US?)
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: SmoothOprtr on Dec 29, 2004, 06:21 PM
Did anyone mention the live solo on Cortez the Killer... awsome!
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: ben grimm on Dec 30, 2004, 12:18 PM
David Rawlins on 'Revelator' never fails to make the hair on my neck stand up.
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: antoniostrohs on Dec 30, 2004, 01:35 PM
Bengrim,Good call on David Rawlings.A very under rated guitarist with a great acoustic sound and style.
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: EC on Dec 30, 2004, 07:46 PM
Here, here!  That solo in "I Want to Sing that Rock 'n Roll" is so unbelievable.  And it's cool because it's live, and you can hear people go nuts for it.

(hm.  Is it "here, here", or "hear, hear".  hm)
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: Zmog1974 on Dec 31, 2004, 02:09 AM
i love the solo in Steel Feeling Blue.(followed by a mean fiddle solo).by.Gram Parsons, also i love it when Prince does the Purple Rain solo live....gets me everytime...Prince's" i could never take the place of your man"from the Sign o the Times album has one mean solo too..though it does sound very 80's now...Nearly every Hotclub in Cowtown song has a top solo...theres millions of others, gonna have to get my thinking cap on.
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: Zmog1974 on Dec 31, 2004, 02:20 AM
OH YEAH.....forgot Eric Clapton's and Robbie Robertsons solo in the Last Waltz i love the expressions on their faces...one of the best things about the last waltz is the fun they are having..Rick Danko smile when Ronnie Hawkins is singing is priceless.
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: Oz on Dec 31, 2004, 06:34 AM
Mine would be the song Untitled#2 on John Frusciante's solo debut Niandra LaDes and usually just a t-shirt, wich is a 5 minute song consisting of an accoustic guitar playing chords and rythm and an electric guitar playing a solo backwards. It's awesome.

And then there's Patrick's hilarious live drum solo on 'Steam engine', but that's another topic...  :)
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: SmoothOprtr on Jan 03, 2005, 04:37 PM
Please add Sweet Child O Mine to my list!
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: marktwain on Jan 03, 2005, 04:43 PM
QuotePlease add Sweet Child O Mine to my list!
Welcome, my brother!
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: wordawg on Jan 05, 2005, 04:57 PM
Just shoving this up the list to try and get a reply to my Rory Gallagher question.

Are the US posters aware of the mans work? Was he big over there? He probably toured more than anyone ever (even more than MMJ!). Top class guitarist - electric/acoustic/slide/mandolin.

Word?
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: Chills on Jan 06, 2005, 05:52 AM
Not from USA, and I'm not so familiar with the man's work, though I love cranking up songs like moonchild or seventh son of a seventh son on a regular basis!
Definitely intersted in hearing more... Any hints on where I should get started?

That man ROCKS
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: peanut butter puddin surprise on Jan 06, 2005, 10:20 AM
for some reason I thought that guy did "children of the sun"
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: Rabid_Washcloth on Jan 06, 2005, 11:26 AM
Anything by Doug Martsch

Anything from Robert Quine's Lou Reed days (specifically Waves of Fear - will make you intentionally wreck your car if too loud)

Anything by Leo Kottke - every song's one big solo


Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: The Boar on Jan 06, 2005, 11:32 AM
Wow, big props for mentioning Leo Kottke. What an awesome artist.
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: Chills on Jan 06, 2005, 01:26 PM
Robert Quine, didn't he die from a heroin overdose last year? That's pretty sad.

I think he also played guitar with Richard Hell and the Voidoids in the 70's. Anybody remember their classic punk single Blank Generation? Check it out!

Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: MMJ_fanatic on Jan 06, 2005, 05:07 PM
QuoteJust shoving this up the list to try and get a reply to my Rory Gallagher question.

Are the US posters aware of the mans work? Was he big over there? He probably toured more than anyone ever (even more than MMJ!). Top class guitarist - electric/acoustic/slide/mandolin.

Word?
Greggy--yes and yes and word!
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: wordawg on Jan 07, 2005, 08:37 AM
QuoteAny hints on where I should get started?

That man ROCKS

Taste - Same Old Story, Catfish (especially a live version), What's Going On, Sugar Mama (again, look for a live version)

Rory Gallagher - One of his best albums I think is 'Live in Europe' (its old, but still available).  It has such classics as Pistol Slapper Blues, Going to My Hometwown and Bullfrog Blues.

I am a sucker for live albums, I much prefer them to studio albums and the Live in Europe basically showcases him at his very best.  He was staggering live.  Saw him dozens (honestly) of times. Very under rated.

Due to wandering backwards in time thinking about this, I've just ordered the Best of Taste. Can't wait.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: Chills on Jan 07, 2005, 09:56 AM
Thanks, i'll try to search something out!
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: Complainer on Jan 16, 2005, 03:51 PM
A couple people mentioned Free Bird by Skynyrd, particularly the end of it. Are you being sarcastic? That's possibly the lamest solo in rock history. "deedle dee deedle dee deedle dee deedle dee...." It's finger exercises. So is the solo in One Big Holiday, for that matter. Skynyrd's 'I Ain't The One', though, has one of the best classic rock solos I've ever heard.  
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: EC on Jan 16, 2005, 04:26 PM
Yeah, but a lot of guitar solos are excercizes with personalization to them, right?  Like, there's only so many ways you can make the notes go really fast, and it's all about what you've learned.  Sometimes you go into zone mode and just play whatever comes into your fingers, and sometimes you've planned it out...

And, damn me if the One Big Holiday beginning bit isn't really effin' hard to get the hang of.

(The 2nd part should give you the clue that I actually don't know what I'm talking about in the first part.)
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: Sal Paradise on Jan 16, 2005, 04:30 PM
Well, if the solo in One Big Ho is just a finger exercise:
Goddamn, I love that finger exercise!
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: sweatboard on Jan 16, 2005, 04:34 PM
QuoteA couple people mentioned Free Bird by Skynyrd, particularly the end of it. Are you being sarcastic? That's possibly the lamest solo in rock history. "deedle dee deedle dee deedle dee deedle dee...." It's finger exercises. So is the solo in One Big Holiday, for that matter. Skynyrd's 'I Ain't The One', though, has one of the best classic rock solos I've ever heard.  

I have to disagree.  I think there is quite a bit of soul involved in those "finger excercises".  The solos on Freebird and One Big Holiday are both certifiably "MIND BLOWING".  If you don't recognize that then you need to try listening with a more OPEN MIND, or something.  

Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: sweatboard on Jan 16, 2005, 04:38 PM
Can someone please explain how you post an image in your message?  Thanks,

Brian
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: Sal Paradise on Jan 16, 2005, 04:41 PM
There's this icon with a pretty landscape, looks like canada or something. Click it and replace URL with your uh, URL. It's real easy once you know it.
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: sweatboard on Jan 16, 2005, 04:46 PM
Here's your finger excercise....


(http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:vZIZqu_2i6cJ:members.rogers.com/runamuck/livinitup/thugnug/thugnug%2520004.jpg)
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: sweatboard on Jan 16, 2005, 04:47 PM
Awwww YEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHh!!!!!!!!!

thanks Sal
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: SmoothOprtr on Jan 16, 2005, 09:27 PM
Complainer is a tool.

Free Bird and One Big Holiday Rule!

Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: sweatboard on Jan 16, 2005, 09:33 PM
[glb]WORD!!!!!!!!!!!!![/glb]
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: Complainer on Jan 17, 2005, 12:10 AM
lol  
If you guys can't find boring, repetitive sections in both those solos you are more sycophantic than you'll care to admit. Instead of giving me the finger, why wouldn't you say something about the music itself?

Listen to the solos in I Ain't The One and Free Bird and then tell me which one has personality and which one is mostly ridiculous. There are good parts to Free Bird, but I just think the "watch how fast I can deedle dee dee" part is lame, especially considering what Allen Collins was capable of playing.

I suppose you're next going to tell me you've never shaken your head at any MMJ lyrics?
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: sweatboard on Jan 17, 2005, 07:51 AM
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM, Let's see, How should I put this?........................................................................................................................................................................................OH, Yeah








(http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:8_4Cylqv1GAJ:www.bol.ucla.edu/~akullar/Alexi_Middle_Finger.jpg)
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: sweatboard on Jan 17, 2005, 07:54 AM
No seriously, Which MMJ lyrics do you think are lame?  Top Five.  Let's hear them.
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: EC on Jan 17, 2005, 09:16 AM
QuoteI suppose you're next going to tell me you've never shaken your head at any MMJ lyrics?

Ummm, dangerous territory dude...  

Honey, I've shaken my head to MMJ lyrics, but I don't think we're talking about the same thing...
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: Complainer on Jan 17, 2005, 03:44 PM
QuoteNo seriously, Which MMJ lyrics do you think are lame?  Top Five.  Let's hear them.

So, instead of just replying like a normal person you post two pictures that essentially say "Fuck You". I guess that's sort of funny - you would be more polite in person.

You asked me which MMJ lyrics I think are lame. From 'Old September Blues', I think "all alone at the end of the day. really tired it's time to hit the hay" sounds like he threw together a rhyme at the last minute.

From 'The Dark', this section is just...dumb:  
"its called THE DARK. its not a sunny day for the dark. let in the dark, then you you can sleep and fuck and park. let in the dark, it's not another day for the dark. let in the dark, then you can sleep and move and park."   In case anyone missed it, it's called the dark.  

From 'My Car':
"i asked where you go'd,
and you said where you went"  Go'd?

"bought you big houses and payed all the rent" Why is he paying all the rent for houses that he bought? Maybe a mortgage payment, but not rent. A song as beautiful as this one deserves better words.

From 'They Ran':
"somebody stole my lighter. and where it go'd is higher" There's that "go'd" again. I'm not asking for Shakespeare, but go'd?

From 'Lowdown':
"So love, dawg, can't you see?" Dawg? Is Dude going to be on the next album? How about Homey?

From 'I Will Sing You Songs':
"stories of the greater years...fill your heart and soul with beer" I don't think "beer" fits the mood of the song.

From 'Steam Engine':
"your skin looks good in moonlight"  This one bugs me because it comes at the best part of the best song on the album, in my opinion. Couldn't her skin do something in the moonlight other than "look good"? That line is surrounded by a bunch of really good ones, so it sticks out out like a sore thumb.

Before you give me the finger again, sweatboard, - which you're obviously going to do, being the wit that you are - understand that I'm not saying all of MMJ's lyrics are lame, or that I could have done so much better at the age Jim James was when these lyrics were written. I'm just saying that some really, really good songs could have been a lot better had there been some more thought about the words. I actually think a lot of the lyrics are excellent, and they've gotten better on each album; it's just that the band is fallible, like any other band. Having said that, I'd listen to Jim James sing just about anything.

And for the record, the Free Bird solo still sucks.  



Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: sweatboard on Jan 17, 2005, 05:00 PM
For the record......





(http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:zHVAeITCLnMJ:www.omicron-xi.org/pictures/01-26-02/Fleming%2520gives%2520middle%2520finger%2520-%2520The%2520Tavern.JPG)
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: Complainer on Jan 17, 2005, 05:41 PM
lol

Wit.
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: MMJ_fanatic on Jan 17, 2005, 06:42 PM
I have to admit I'd rather hear "On the hunt" or I ain't the one" anyday over "Free-overplayed-bird"  

'Board--is that you in the the bird flipping pics?
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: sweatboard on Jan 17, 2005, 07:46 PM
No that's not me Fanatic.    
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: sweatboard on Jan 17, 2005, 08:10 PM
I can't friggin wait to hear what MMJ does with Freebird in Elizabethtown.  As much as I've heard it requested, I've never actually heard anyone cover it.  I don't think anyone has the balls to try and hang with that solo much less try and top it.  
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: sweatboard on Jan 17, 2005, 08:27 PM
I appreciate you posting those lyrics you had a problem with Complainer.  I have to admit that I've wondered the same thing about "Love Dawg".  As for "your skin looks good in the moonlight" I have to say I can't Imagine another line being as good there.  As for Jim's lyrics, I just enjoy the images they paint in my head.  If you sit and try and disect everything you kind of kill it.  Kind of like when you take your friend to see a movie and all he does is sit there and say things like "oh my god that's so fake" or "Yeah right, that'd happen in real life".  Well no kidding, but the fun of it all is the suspending all that shit for a few moments and getting lost in the story.
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: SmoothOprtr on Jan 18, 2005, 12:07 PM
Most of those lyrical selections were from earlier songs as well.  The group has obviously evolved as they have went.
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: SMc55 on Jan 18, 2005, 04:44 PM
Quote


From 'Lowdown':
"So love, dawg, can't you see?" Dawg? Is Dude going to be on the next album? How about Homey?


I thought that line was "So loved up, can't you see?" for so long that it's what's in my head when I hear the song. Is he calling her a dog? That's a really offensive thing to call a woman here.
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: EC on Jan 18, 2005, 04:59 PM
HA!  No, I think it's a term of endearment.  Whoever he's referring to is his "love dawg".  And dog is spelled differently in order to confirm that it's meant in a nice way.  (See sweatboard's sig line for future reference...)

Also, for the longest time, I thought he was saying "lowdown".  Like, "[I'm] so [lowdown], can't you see?"

I remember being very, very surprised when I saw it was love dawg.  (I love the way hellaciousc pronounces "daawwwwwwg" in his rendition of Lowdown.)
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: MMJ_fanatic on Jan 18, 2005, 05:32 PM
I agree whole heartedly--dawg is a definite term of endearment as applied here
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: marktwain on Jan 18, 2005, 06:24 PM
Complainer,

"By My Car" has some of my favorite MMJ lyrics.  I didn't get it at first - I shook my head, especially at that buying houses and paying rent bit.  BUT I think Jim is assuming a narrative voice.  Like when Faulkner writes as Benjy thinks in _Sound and the Fury_, he (Faulkner) sounds less intelligent than he is, b/c Benjy is retarded.  

Maybe you're not from the south, but down here there are a lot of folks who talk like the narrator of 'By my car'.  Also, after he asks her where she "go'd", the mean girl corrects his fucking grammar - "you said where you went"

I think he does this (assumes a voice - often an "average guy" voice) in other songs, as well. I think it's happening in "Old Sept. Blues", where the dude has a weird accountant's view of love "never were a drawback, always were an asset."

'Course, this is just my own damn opinion. I may be right or wrong.  

I don't think you deserved the finger, though.  I think (hope) that was just joking.  Sweatboard's cool.  We got drunk together virtually. ;D
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: sweatboard on Jan 18, 2005, 06:57 PM
Yeah, I enjoyed the stuff that complainer brought up, I thought he shared his oppinion in a pleasent manner and had some interesting things to say, I was of course just having some fun, no malice on this end. ;)  But Freebird still fucking rocks.  Speaking of Free-Bird...................
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: sweatboard on Jan 18, 2005, 07:00 PM
(http://www.angelfire.com/sd/DavsHomePage/ap.jpg)


And I KNOW this guy agrees with me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: EC on Jan 18, 2005, 08:30 PM
Holy motherfucking shit.  That is unbelievable.
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: SmoothOprtr on Jan 18, 2005, 08:36 PM
What is this?
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: Complainer on Jan 18, 2005, 11:22 PM
QuoteComplainer,

"By My Car" has some of my favorite MMJ lyrics.  I didn't get it at first - I shook my head, especially at that buying houses and paying rent bit.  BUT I think Jim is assuming a narrative voice.  Like when Faulkner writes as Benjy thinks in _Sound and the Fury_, he (Faulkner) sounds less intelligent than he is, b/c Benjy is retarded.  

Maybe you're not from the south, but down here there are a lot of folks who talk like the narrator of 'By my car'.  Also, after he asks her where she "go'd", the mean girl corrects his fucking grammar - "you said where you went"

I think he does this (assumes a voice - often an "average guy" voice) in other songs, as well. I think it's happening in "Old Sept. Blues", where the dude has a weird accountant's view of love "never were a drawback, always were an asset."

'Course, this is just my own damn opinion. I may be right or wrong.  

I don't think you deserved the finger, though.  I think (hope) that was just joking.  Sweatboard's cool.  We got drunk together virtually. ;D

Thanks for your post, Tundra. I hadn't even considered that she was correcting his grammar. That's a great way of reading those lines. The idea that she is more "cultured" than he is makes sense, considering both your comment and the fact that she apparently moves to Los Angeles, the "big city" (although I'd take southern honesty over L.A. bullshit any day, if I can stereotype for a second). I'm kind of leaning toward the notion of Jim assuming a voice in some songs, especially since I've gone on ten-minute raves to my girlfriend about how good certain lines are. I've always been confused about how Jim could write such great lines and then commit such stinkers to wax, but I have to admit that I'm overly picky about some things.

As for "The Sound and The Fury", that was...well, not an easy read, at least until I got a sense of the characters. Actually, it wasn't easy then either, but I'm glad I got through it.
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: sweatboard on Jan 18, 2005, 11:50 PM
Damnit to hell, I swear that image was up for a while.  Did anyone see it?
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: sweatboard on Jan 19, 2005, 12:14 AM
At any rate this has turned out to be a great dialogue on Jim's lyrics.  I never really thought he said "go'd".  I always thought he said "Where You'd go".  I have to say "By My Car" has always been one of my favorites. But you have brought up a good point Complainer about her moving on to a more "cultured" environment.  I play this song on my guitar quite a bit and I always seem to give out a little angry laugh after the lines "and you said where you went"

The fact that the song just seems like it was written on the spot is what I love about it the most.  It just seems like an immediate reaction that had to occur and there just happened to be a guitar around.    
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: EC on Jan 19, 2005, 06:57 AM
(I still see it, sweatboard.)
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: SMc55 on Jan 20, 2005, 05:31 AM
Quote(I still see it, sweatboard.)

Me too.
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: wordawg on Jan 21, 2005, 01:32 PM
Who is it?


word?
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: sweatboard on Jan 21, 2005, 05:34 PM
It was this guy with the most kick ass mullet of all time flippen a sweet bird.
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: EC on Jan 21, 2005, 10:58 PM
QuoteIt was this guy with the most kick ass mullet of all time flippen a sweet bird.
What happened?  Where'd he go, and what is an angel fire?

(I'm really glad that the guy with the mullet isn't you.  I was worried.)

But where is he?

(If you find him again, and email him to me, I will host a link at my sight, because that shit is for real, and everyone should get to see it.)  :)
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: wordawg on Jan 22, 2005, 02:26 AM
But who was/is he?
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: SMc55 on Jan 22, 2005, 03:17 AM
Quote
(I'm really glad that the guy with the mullet isn't you.  I was worried.)


That's what I was thinking. It is one spectacular mullet!
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: Billo on Jan 28, 2005, 08:35 PM
Favorite guiar solos
This one goes to 11
Mark Knofler (Dire Straits)Sultans of Swing
Michael Schenker (UFO) Love to Love
Walter Salas Humara (The Silos) Here's To You
John Fogerty (CCR) Ramble Tamble
Cesar Rosas (Los Lobos) Don't Worry Baby
Neil Young - Like A Hurricane
Stevie Ray Vaughan - Rude Mood
Bill Priddle and Greig Nori (Treble Charger)-Red
Mark Knofler -Romeo and Juillet
Bob Marley The open notes of Redemption Song
Eddie Van Halen - Ain't Taling 'Bout Love
Title: Hmmm...
Post by: utonynashm on Jan 29, 2005, 12:34 PM
I heard that tony nash guy is sweet......

and marc ford and warren haynes and jimmy page and clapton and so many other greats!
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: tomEisenbraun on Jan 29, 2005, 11:24 PM
MMJ - "The Bear" (that building bit on the electric right before the "forever")
Led Zep - "Ten Years Gone"
The Flaming Lips - "Feeling Yourself Disintegrate" AMAZING song
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: Chills on Jan 31, 2005, 11:08 AM
Jimi Hendrix: Machine Gun  Live at the Fillmore East (two versions!)
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: Complainer on Jan 31, 2005, 06:40 PM
Jimi Hendrix - Where to start? How about Bold As Love. The second half of the song has a guitar solo with a weird spacey effect that gives me chills every time.

Frank Zappa - Take your pick: Dirty Love, Penguin in Bondage, Montana, Black Napkins, Leather Goods (especially the Whole Lotta Love part), etc. Damn, that guy could play.

Willie Nelson - Folsom Prison Blues w/ Johnny Cash

Neil Young - many

Peter Green - Jumping At Shadows (back when Fleetwood Mac were actually good!) Eat your heart out, Clapton.
Title: Re: Favorite Guitar Solos (your list)
Post by: Garth69 on Feb 01, 2005, 10:36 AM
'The Rocker'-Thin Lizzy-Eric Bell.
One of the most underrated guys of all time. This was before the famed twin guitar lineup that produced nothing but one great solo after another, but Eric Bell was probably better than both guys put together.