My Morning Jacket

My Morning Jacket => The Band => Topic started by: wonderfulman on Mar 12, 2014, 02:19 PM

Title: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: wonderfulman on Mar 12, 2014, 02:19 PM
For you Audiophiles out there, Neil Young and Pono are putting out a High Resolution Digital Audio Player. They are releasing special edition players for certain bands. You will get a chrome player with each band members signature laser-etched on the back. It also comes pre-loaded with the bands 2 favorite albums.

If you go to kick-starter, you can purchase the MMJ edition of the Pono player. It is a limited edition so only 500 MMJ players will be manufactured. Link below.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1003614822/ponomusic-where-your-soul-rediscovers-music (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1003614822/ponomusic-where-your-soul-rediscovers-music)
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Mr. White on Mar 12, 2014, 07:51 PM
I just became one of the proud 500 My Morning Jacket Limited Edition Pono Player owners! I am number 16! This is something I can really get excited about!
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Murph on Mar 12, 2014, 09:25 PM
Quote from: Mr. White on Mar 12, 2014, 07:51 PM
I just became one of the proud 500 My Morning Jacket Limited Edition Pono Player owners! I am number 17! This is something I can really get excited about!

Congrats man! That is really cool.  Please be sure to report back on the awesomeness of this thing, even though I'm seeing now that they arent being shipped out until October.  I'm sure it'll be worth the wait
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: GO4IT on Mar 12, 2014, 10:11 PM
I think I got 24 or 25.  This link arrived at a moment of weakness while I was listening to the 45rpm Circuital with amazing sound.  I trust Neil and MMJ so I think it will be worth it. :cool:
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Dillsnufus on Mar 12, 2014, 10:56 PM
o man id love to buy one
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: BigHerm on Mar 13, 2014, 12:29 PM
What am I missing here? Why not just play FLAC files on ipod/iphone/etc etc?
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: wonderfulman on Mar 13, 2014, 02:25 PM
You can't play FLAC files on any Apple devices (some Android devices can play them and can get the higher resolutions, but they do not have the audio equipment to sound as good as High Res players do). You will need to convert it to an ALAC or MP4 file before you are able to play it through iTunes. The highest resolution an Apple Device can play is 48-24 where as the Pono can do up to 192-24.
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: BigHerm on Mar 13, 2014, 02:46 PM
Quote from: wonderfulman on Mar 13, 2014, 02:25 PM
You can't play FLAC files on any Apple devices (some Android devices can play them and can get the higher resolutions, but they do not have the audio equipment to sound as good as High Res players do). You will need to convert it to an ALAC or MP4 file before you are able to play it through iTunes. The highest resolution an Apple Device can play is 48-24 where as the Pono can do up to 192-24.

Aren't there 3rd party Apps that play FLAC?

In your car you can buy a $70 Kenwood deck and pop a thumb drive in and play FLACS.

Aside from all of that there is this:
http://gizmodo.com/what-is-high-resolution-audio-1252637824/1541582373/+marioaguilar (http://gizmodo.com/what-is-high-resolution-audio-1252637824/1541582373/+marioaguilar)

Anyways don't mean to shit on the thread just dont see the use for this.

Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: oistheone on Mar 13, 2014, 02:51 PM
There is some SERIOUS debate among audiophiles as to what exactly is up with Pono. Pono is being mysteriously silent on what exactly the parts are that make Pono unique. Lots of stereo receivers and car decks are equipped with excellent DACs (digital to analog converters) which are capable of playing 24/192 FLAC files. Pono would enable you to listen to these files "on the go", but I'm trying to gauge if it's worth it. $400 for a less user-friendly iPod is a lotta cash. And the prospect of buying "Pono Master Editions" for all the albums I already have (at $20+ a pop!) is a little daunting.

I almost impulsively pulled the trigger on one of these, but I think I'll wait until they are actually released and I can try one myself before plunking down half a grand.

Having said that, I love the concept of hi-rez audio and greatly look forward to hearing some reviews.
Title: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: ewiser on Mar 13, 2014, 08:24 PM
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ampliflac-free-hd-flac-player/id673068750?mt=8

Bunch of FLAC players for iOS.
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Santo on Mar 13, 2014, 10:35 PM
I know the player is getting a lot of press because of the Kickstarter page, but I get the feeling that the real point of Pono is the music service. Neil Young is on record for criticizing the sound of downloads from iTunes. It sounds like he is designing Ponomusic to be the go-to download store for the lossless format with the Pono player being the signature companion piece.
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Mr. White on Mar 13, 2014, 11:05 PM
Here are a couple of their answers to FAQ's.

What's a PonoPlayer and why should I buy one?

PonoMusic is a complete digital music ecosystem: the PonoMusic Store and the PonoPlayer together deliver stunningly clear music, the next best thing to hearing it in the recording studio. The PonoPlayer is a purpose-built device, designed by world-renowned audio engineers, to do one thing, and one thing exceedingly well - to let you hear high quality PonoMusic in its original quality for the original experience.

The PonoPlayer meaningfully improves the listening experience with any quality of headphones, speakers, or playback system. However, when using higher quality headphones and/or speakers, the PonoMusic difference is profound. The PonoPlayer will show you, via its user interface and a special "light" (to indicate a certified PonoMusic song) exactly what quality level you are hearing - when you are hearing Pono quality, and when you are not. If the light is lit, then the music you are listening to is Pono-certified as the best available quality.

Should you invest in a PonoPlayer? If you want to experience your music, feel its soul, and have it run through your veins, then PonoMusic is for you. We want you to know that our Kickstarter campaign is being watched carefully by many key people in the music industry to understand the market interest in high-resolution digital music. Your Kickstarter pledge is not just a vote of support for PonoMusic. It is also an important voice for the momentum of the PonoMusic revolution - our movement to bring back the soul of music.

The PonoPlayer was created to bring PonoMusic to a broad audience of music lovers, certainly not just audiophiles. It's a portable player that breathes life back into music, it is easy to use, and it won't break your budget.

I'm an audiophile. Explain what is so special about the PonoPlayer technology?

The PonoPlayer was designed with a "no compromises" approach to sound quality. We partnered with the engineering team at Ayre (www.ayre.com (http://www.ayre.com)) to include some of their world-class audio technology in our PonoPlayer. The Ayre team describes their contribution to the PonoPlayer design as follows:

• The digital filter used in the PonoPlayer has minimal phase, and no unnatural (digital sounding) pre-ringing. All sounds made (including music) always have reflections and/or echoes after the initial sound. There is no sound in nature that has any echo or reflection before the sound, which is what conventional linear-phase digital filters do. This is one reason that digital sound has a reputation for sounding "unnatural" and harsh.

• All circuitry is zero-feedback. Feedback can only correct an error after it has occurred, which means that it can never correct for all errors. By using proprietary ultra-linear circuitry with wide bandwidth and low output impedance, there is no need for unnatural sounding feedback.

• The DAC (Digital-to-Analog Converter) chip being used is widely recognized in the audio and engineering community as one of the best sounding DAC chips available today.

• The output buffer used to drive the headphones is fully discrete so that all individual parameters and circuit values and parts quality can be fully optimized for the absolute finest sound quality. The output impedance is very low so that the PonoPlayer delivers perfectly flat frequency response and wide volume range using virtually any set of headphones.

Is PonoMusic a new audio format? What about PonoMusic quality?

No. We want to be very clear that PonoMusic is not a new audio file format or standard. It is an end-to-end ecosystem for music lovers to get access to and enjoy their favorite music in the highest resolution possible for that song or album. The music in the PonoMusic.com Store is sold and downloaded in industry standard audio file formats.

The PonoMusic.com Store uses FLAC (Free Lossless Audio Codec) audio format as its standard, for compatibility, although the PonoPlayer can play most popular high-resolution music formats from other sources. PonoMusic has a quality spectrum, ranging from really good to really great, depending on the quality of the available master recordings:

• CD lossless quality recordings: 1411 kbps (44.1 kHz/16 bit) FLAC files
• High-resolution recordings: 2304 kbps (48 kHz/24 bit) FLAC files
• Higher-resolution recordings: 4608 kbps (96 kHz/24 bit) FLAC files
• Ultra-high resolution recordings: 9216 kbps (192 kHz/24 bit) FLAC files
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: buymycar on Mar 14, 2014, 03:09 AM
Quote from: Santo on Mar 13, 2014, 10:35 PM
I know the player is getting a lot of press because of the Kickstarter page, but I get the feeling that the real point of Pono is the music service. Neil Young is on record for criticizing the sound of downloads from iTunes. It sounds like he is designing Ponomusic to be the go-to download store for the lossless format with the Pono player being the signature companion piece.

I guess people don't know about HDTracks?  I purchased Beck's Morning Phase from there, and it sounds fantastic.  Albums on there are less than 20 bucks a pop, but I'm not sure they have the three (is it really down to three now?) major labels that Pono will have.

http://www.hdtracks.com (http://www.hdtracks.com)
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: oistheone on Mar 15, 2014, 02:35 PM
There is speculation that HDTracks just upsamples a large majority of their offerings, while Pono will "reportedly" be offering Pono-authorized remasters. I'd love some concrete info though, because this Pono Store, if it does indeed offer complete remasters, would be pretty damn awesome. Expensive, but awesome.
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Mr. White on Mar 15, 2014, 03:14 PM
http://youtu.be/Pa2rpJtUItE (http://youtu.be/Pa2rpJtUItE)
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Mr. White on Mar 15, 2014, 10:53 PM
This article has some pretty good information.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/music/neil-youngs-pono-hi-def-mp3-player/# (http://www.digitaltrends.com/music/neil-youngs-pono-hi-def-mp3-player/#)!zVqaz
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Mr. White on Mar 16, 2014, 12:14 PM
Billboard from a few days ago.


http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/digital-and-mobile/5930488/neil-young-on-pono-raising-16-million-in-24-hrs-on (http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/digital-and-mobile/5930488/neil-young-on-pono-raising-16-million-in-24-hrs-on)
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Somey on Mar 16, 2014, 12:25 PM
Official backer sucks I'm going to need to re buy live shows and stuff I bought but I can't wait to get my hands on this, Mmj signature series.
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: GO4IT on Mar 18, 2014, 07:51 PM
C'mon all you MMJ fans that didn't go to OBH and have all that disposable income :rolleyes:

MMJ is losing out to all the other bands' signature edition Pono players.  It's embarrassing.  We've got only 69 sold and only Lyle Lovett, who was just added, is behind us at 2. :grin:
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Mr. White on Mar 18, 2014, 11:27 PM
Quote from: GO4IT on Mar 18, 2014, 07:51 PM
C'mon all you MMJ fans that didn't go to OBH and have all that disposable income :rolleyes:

MMJ is losing out to all the other bands' signature edition Pono players.  It's embarrassing.  We've got only 69 sold and only Lyle Lovett, who was just added, is behind us at 2. :grin:

We're at 70 now!
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Mr. White on Mar 19, 2014, 12:02 AM
This is Neil's.

(http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o583/Darkstarflashes/PonoMusicPlayer_zps475e8548.jpg)
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Mr. White on Mar 19, 2014, 06:37 PM
From All Songs Considered on NPR today.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2014/03/19/291130878/neil-young-wants-you-to-truly-hear-music (http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2014/03/19/291130878/neil-young-wants-you-to-truly-hear-music)

18 minute long video interview with Neil.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2014/03/19/291130878/neil-young-wants-you-to-truly-hear-music (http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2014/03/19/291130878/neil-young-wants-you-to-truly-hear-music)

Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: itrainmonkeys on Mar 20, 2014, 12:13 PM
Really wish I could afford this. I probably can't contribute for the device yet and I would probably have to slowly but surely re-build my catalog by buying a ton of stuff since I don't have a ton of high-quality audio already.
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: buymycar on Mar 30, 2014, 06:23 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bj_83mPCYAAZqqC.jpg)
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Mr. White on Mar 30, 2014, 09:13 PM
Quote from: buymycar on Mar 30, 2014, 06:23 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bj_83mPCYAAZqqC.jpg)

Where was this picture? I check the fundraising progress and most of the comments/updates just about each day and still haven't seen any pictures other than the ones on the main page. I guess I'm just not looking in the right place. Could you give me some direction to the photo, buymycar? Thanks!
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: buymycar on Mar 30, 2014, 10:59 PM
It looks like it came from the Pono twitter feed:

http://twitter.com/pono (http://twitter.com/pono)

Is Patrick's autograph missing?
Title: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: adastra on Mar 31, 2014, 11:33 PM
My High Rez music player has a platter and a needle.
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Mr. White on Apr 10, 2014, 02:53 PM
This testimonial from My Morning Jacket is on the Pono Interweb site. It is a video on Vimeo, and their part starts at around 30 seconds into it. The video was recorded at Bonnaroo in 2011. You can find it at the ponomusic.com link when you scroll down to the testimonials and look for Jim's face with a "play" button over it.

http://www.ponomusic.com/ (http://www.ponomusic.com/)
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: itrainmonkeys on Apr 11, 2014, 03:53 PM
Makes me sad that the number is so low.

I'd LOVE to have one of these but I just can't afford it right now. Just plunked down $500 for a root canal and $400 on car repairs so I'm pretty shot in terms of money. I'll be upset about missing out on an MMJ Limited one...especially if I end up getting a regular one down the line.

Of course....if anyone wants to gift me one I won't turn it down. My birthday is in November and I can pay you back in hugs and jokes. Haha, but seriously it's a shame that I'm going to likely miss out on this.  :cry:
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Mr. White on Apr 12, 2014, 01:32 PM
Hey, itrainmonkeys. I'm right with you on just about not being able to afford the Pono Player. I've been having to help out my daughter and her family financially a lot recently, but I have a plan. I'm going to have a birthday in early September, and usually my parents just ask me to give them an idea of what to get, or they just give me money to get something I want. My wife usually does the same. I'll head off my brother with the same plan before he actually buys me anything and pool the money together to almost have enough to cover the $400 cost. I recently got my tax return, so that is where the money will come from until September. (The player won't be shipped out until October.)

Here is another interview with Neil about Pono.

http://radio.com/2014/04/11/neil-young-interview-pono/ (http://radio.com/2014/04/11/neil-young-interview-pono/)
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: GO4IT on Apr 14, 2014, 07:06 PM
Only 18 hrs left to get your MMJ Pono player and then they will never be sold again!

We're only up to 90 so 410 left to go.

Then again, the less they sell the more unique mine will be  :wink:
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: johnnYYac on Apr 14, 2014, 09:02 PM
I'm so very tempted, but it goes beyond the $400 cost of the player to the cost of the music that will make the player worthwhile.  I'll save for One Big Holiday II instead.
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: rincon2 on Apr 15, 2014, 01:14 PM
Quote from: Mr. White on Mar 19, 2014, 06:37 PM
From All Songs Considered on NPR today.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2014/03/19/291130878/neil-young-wants-you-to-truly-hear-music (http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2014/03/19/291130878/neil-young-wants-you-to-truly-hear-music)

18 minute long video interview with Neil.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2014/03/19/291130878/neil-young-wants-you-to-truly-hear-music (http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2014/03/19/291130878/neil-young-wants-you-to-truly-hear-music)
Don't get me wrong, I think this is a great option for anyone who has the inclination to upgrade everything just one more time, but I thought Neil came off as condescending and just another corporate con man. Was he complaining when everyone was listening to shitty 8 tracks, while less shitty cassettes were an option? He ridicules anyone who feels an mp3 whether listened via bluetooth,  good earphones, or any other mode, is  having a satisfying experience. That is like him walking onto a Toyota lot and telling someone buying a Camry that it sucks because it is not a Tesla. (I rode in one this week, the Camry does suck in comparison, but not the point.) When he pulled it out of his jacket pocket to prove it is pocket friendly I wanted to jump through the computer screen and slap his shaky ass. It is a purely luxury item in this phase.  MR. White, I am not insinuating you made a bad purchase by any means. I just resent his approach that implies I'm an idiot because I use an iPhone with a Bose bluetooth speaker. In over a year, not one person has failed  to be blown away by the sound. If Pono is better, great! There is always something better coming down the pike. But it does not have to be marketed by an icon telling you your a putz if you don't buy his product. (Next he will be telling parents who buy Thomas The Tank Engine toys they need to buy a Lionel train set because it is more realistic. He owns Lionel also.) I am not bias against Neil. I thought he was the reigning king of RNR. I do feel some of the newer bands have taken what he has laid the groundwork of, and actually improved on it. MMJ is only one example in my mind.
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: GO4IT on Apr 15, 2014, 10:21 PM
Quote from: rincon2 on Apr 15, 2014, 01:14 PM
Quote from: Mr. White on Mar 19, 2014, 06:37 PM
From All Songs Considered on NPR today.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2014/03/19/291130878/neil-young-wants-you-to-truly-hear-music (http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2014/03/19/291130878/neil-young-wants-you-to-truly-hear-music)

18 minute long video interview with Neil.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2014/03/19/291130878/neil-young-wants-you-to-truly-hear-music (http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2014/03/19/291130878/neil-young-wants-you-to-truly-hear-music)
Don't get me wrong, I think this is a great option for anyone who has the inclination to upgrade everything just one more time, but I thought Neil came off as condescending and just another corporate con man. Was he complaining when everyone was listening to shitty 8 tracks, while less shitty cassettes were an option? He ridicules anyone who feels an mp3 whether listened via bluetooth,  good earphones, or any other mode, is  having a satisfying experience. That is like him walking onto a Toyota lot and telling someone buying a Camry that it sucks because it is not a Tesla. (I rode in one this week, the Camry does suck in comparison, but not the point.) When he pulled it out of his jacket pocket to prove it is pocket friendly I wanted to jump through the computer screen and slap his shaky ass. It is a purely luxury item in this phase.  MR. White, I am not insinuating you made a bad purchase by any means. I just resent his approach that implies I'm an idiot because I use an iPhone with a Bose bluetooth speaker. In over a year, not one person has failed  to be blown away by the sound. If Pono is better, great! There is always something better coming down the pike. But it does not have to be marketed by an icon telling you your a putz if you don't buy his product. (Next he will be telling parents who buy Thomas The Tank Engine toys they need to buy a Lionel train set because it is more realistic. He owns Lionel also.)
Maybe you're having a bad day, but if you're labeling Neil as a "corporate con man" you no nothing about the man, his life and his passions.  I don't see him in this clip or anywhere else implying that you are an "idiot" or telling anyone that they are a "putz".  He's passionate about retaining as much of the music quality as possible in this digital age and making it convenient to access.  What is wrong with that, coming from an artist of his stature?  And in the price structure of smartphones and decent audio components, is $300 really that extravagant?  If you don't think it's worth it, no one is forcing you to buy it.
Certainly you can find more worthy targets of your animus these days.
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: LB on Apr 15, 2014, 10:54 PM
yea silly question but do they have these pono players in certain stores where I can sample them? Do y'all think any store would do this? kinda like best buy where you can sample headphones
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: rincon2 on Apr 15, 2014, 11:05 PM
Quote from: GO4IT on Apr 15, 2014, 10:21 PM
Quote from: rincon2 on Apr 15, 2014, 01:14 PM
Quote from: Mr. White on Mar 19, 2014, 06:37 PM
From All Songs Considered on NPR today.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2014/03/19/291130878/neil-young-wants-you-to-truly-hear-music (http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2014/03/19/291130878/neil-young-wants-you-to-truly-hear-music)

18 minute long video interview with Neil.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2014/03/19/291130878/neil-young-wants-you-to-truly-hear-music (http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2014/03/19/291130878/neil-young-wants-you-to-truly-hear-music)
Don't get me wrong, I think this is a great option for anyone who has the inclination to upgrade everything just one more time, but I thought Neil came off as condescending and just another corporate con man. Was he complaining when everyone was listening to shitty 8 tracks, while less shitty cassettes were an option? He ridicules anyone who feels an mp3 whether listened via bluetooth,  good earphones, or any other mode, is  having a satisfying experience. That is like him walking onto a Toyota lot and telling someone buying a Camry that it sucks because it is not a Tesla. (I rode in one this week, the Camry does suck in comparison, but not the point.) When he pulled it out of his jacket pocket to prove it is pocket friendly I wanted to jump through the computer screen and slap his shaky ass. It is a purely luxury item in this phase.  MR. White, I am not insinuating you made a bad purchase by any means. I just resent his approach that implies I'm an idiot because I use an iPhone with a Bose bluetooth speaker. In over a year, not one person has failed  to be blown away by the sound. If Pono is better, great! There is always something better coming down the pike. But it does not have to be marketed by an icon telling you your a putz if you don't buy his product. (Next he will be telling parents who buy Thomas The Tank Engine toys they need to buy a Lionel train set because it is more realistic. He owns Lionel also.)
Maybe you're having a bad day, but if you're labeling Neil as a "corporate con man" you no nothing about the man, his life and his passions.  I don't see him in this clip or anywhere else implying that you are an "idiot" or telling anyone that they are a "putz".  He's passionate about retaining as much of the music quality as possible in this digital age and making it convenient to access.  What is wrong with that, coming from an artist of his stature?  And in the price structure of smartphones and decent audio components, is $300 really that extravagant?  If you don't think it's worth it, no one is forcing you to buy it.
Certainly you can find more worthy targets of your animus these days.
Not a bad day. You just must by anything your heroes say.First off it is $400 plus replacing all of your music with $20 replacements. Fine if you can afford it. He implies nothing short of listening to an album, or his system in a car is adequate, and he can't listen to an album. You did not pick up on his condescending approach to anything mp3 related? Road noise alone makes it relatively silly. For the home, sure. I thought he was a dick in his approach. You did not see his total dismissal of the interviewer when he stated the positive aspects of CD's or MP3s. I guess we disagree. I do know quite a bit about the man. A very long history of screwing his fans in concert. I have seen him 3 times. Once was the Weld tour, unbelievable. Also saw Trans and Greendale. I was prepared, but most fans were livid.
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Mr. White on Apr 15, 2014, 11:35 PM
My Morning Jacket sold 96 out of the 500 that were available. It will come with 2 albums already pre-loaded to it that were selected by MMJ. Maybe one will be the new album! That would be really cool!
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Mr. White on Apr 16, 2014, 12:11 AM
This Pono Player thing came along at just the right time for me. I think I'll enjoy having it. I hope I do.
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: rincon2 on Apr 16, 2014, 09:22 AM
According to him I am stupid because I don't insist on having access to the highest quality player available. I am not hearing music, and my ears hurt, even though I don't feel any pain. If I got a Pono would Arc suddenly sound wonderful?
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Fully on Apr 16, 2014, 11:02 AM
Trust me, no one thinks you are an idiot for not buying a Pono.
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: rincon2 on Apr 16, 2014, 02:07 PM
Quote from: Fully on Apr 16, 2014, 11:02 AM
Trust me, no one thinks you are an idiot for not buying a Pono.
Neil does.
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: walterfredo on Apr 16, 2014, 04:33 PM
Quote from: rincon2 on Apr 16, 2014, 02:07 PM
Quote from: Fully on Apr 16, 2014, 11:02 AM
Trust me, no one thinks you are an idiot for not buying a Pono.
Neil does.

well if Neil believes it, he's probably right. 
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: rincon2 on Apr 16, 2014, 08:49 PM
Quote from: walterfredo on Apr 16, 2014, 04:33 PM
Quote from: rincon2 on Apr 16, 2014, 02:07 PM
Quote from: Fully on Apr 16, 2014, 11:02 AM
Trust me, no one thinks you are an idiot for not buying a Pono.
Neil does.

well if Neil believes it, he's probably right.
Thanks. Unless you ordered one, we share that quality.
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: iLikeBeer on Apr 17, 2014, 11:48 AM
Just thought I would chime in on this subject.  Personally, is it really all that shocking that all of those musicians in that promo piece for the PonoMusic player are raving about the quality of the music?  I mean, they're the ones that will also have a chance to profit from the music sales for this PonoMusic are they not?

One thing I think is funny is how all of these musicians are so down on cd's and digital music, yet I wonder what their feelings were when cd's were first introduced which forced people who had large collections of cassette tapes to have to go out and re-purchase their entire music collection on cd because cassette tapes were now obsolete?  I'm guessing there were some pretty nice profits being made off of these now horrible cd's???  And I doubt there was much groaning about the quality of the music on cd's back then?!   :rolleyes:

But now, as digital music such as mp3's have basically made cd's obsolete, it's now time for the music industry to come up with something new to make even more money off of us, the consumers.

Look, these PonoMusic players might just be musical ecstasy for all I know and might just give my ears an orgasm every time they listen to one.  But I guess I won't know for a while because I'm perfectly content listening to my mp3's under water as Neil would have us believe is how it sounds listening to such poor quality music.  Funny thing is, as a former swimmer, I have swam in pools where the music is pumped in underwater and I have to say, my mp3's I play over my home stereo sure do sound a tad bit better than anything I ever heard through music pumped in through underwater speakers...  :tongue:   :beer:

Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Mr. White on May 12, 2014, 07:39 PM
http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/580-audio-salon-pono-event-wrap/ (http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/580-audio-salon-pono-event-wrap/)
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Mr. White on May 23, 2014, 10:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mG1bzeEGm4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mG1bzeEGm4)
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Mr. White on May 23, 2014, 11:04 PM
Quote from: buymycar on Mar 30, 2014, 10:59 PM
It looks like it came from the Pono twitter feed:

http://twitter.com/pono (http://twitter.com/pono)

Is Patrick's autograph missing?

I think it is. I hope somebody catches it before they are actually made and shipped out.
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: rincon2 on May 27, 2014, 12:26 PM
Oh, the irony! Neil Young's Letter Home came out today. Recorded with Jack Whites 50's tech direct to vinyl process, it sounds like it was recorded in a cigar box with a fish hook as a stylus. So, we are supposed to be appalled by mp3's yet he can release analog turds and it is OK? I don't know if it is hypocritical, marketing, or just plain crazy.
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Santo on May 27, 2014, 01:05 PM
Quote from: rincon2 on May 27, 2014, 12:26 PM
Oh, the irony! Neil Young's Letter Home came out today. Recorded with Jack Whites 50's tech direct to vinyl process, it sounds like it was recorded in a cigar box with a fish hook as a stylus. So, we are supposed to be appalled by mp3's yet he can release analog turds and it is OK? I don't know if it is hypocritical, marketing, or just plain crazy.

Its fits perfectly with his plan. You can get the Deluxe Set which includes both "Standard Audiophile" recordings. Its only $109 ($75 on Popmarket). Nostalgia (and lack thereof) is expensive. Love Neil Young, but he is rarely affordable.
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: rincon2 on May 27, 2014, 02:04 PM
Quote from: Santo on May 27, 2014, 01:05 PM
Quote from: rincon2 on May 27, 2014, 12:26 PM
Oh, the irony! Neil Young's Letter Home came out today. Recorded with Jack Whites 50's tech direct to vinyl process, it sounds like it was recorded in a cigar box with a fish hook as a stylus. So, we are supposed to be appalled by mp3's yet he can release analog turds and it is OK? I don't know if it is hypocritical, marketing, or just plain crazy.

Its fits perfectly with his plan. You can get the Deluxe Set which includes both "Standard Audiophile" recordings. Its only $109 ($75 on Popmarket). Nostalgia (and lack thereof) is expensive. Love Neil Young, but he is rarely affordable.
So marketing it is. Marketing with hypocrisy. If listening to the OBH recordings is akin to listening to music underwater, then listening to his new album is like being underwater with dogpoop in your ears.
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Mr. White on Aug 02, 2014, 03:00 PM
(http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae233/bis_cuit/PAGE1.jpg) (http://s975.photobucket.com/user/bis_cuit/media/PAGE1.jpg.html)

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This is a closer view of the previous image, so you can read it better.
(http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae233/bis_cuit/pono.jpg) (http://s975.photobucket.com/user/bis_cuit/media/pono.jpg.html)
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Emb1528 on Aug 05, 2014, 12:48 AM
Would love to hear the PCs and OBHs on here. Probably not likely they'll put the new album on here. The 400 bones is a lot to shell out. Buuttt would be sweet to score the mmj version.

I'm still waiting for them to release the early greats in flac!!! Or even better, vinyl!
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Mr. White on Aug 05, 2014, 05:00 PM
Quote from: Emb1528 on Aug 05, 2014, 12:48 AM
Would love to hear the PCs and OBHs on here. Probably not likely they'll put the new album on here. The 400 bones is a lot to shell out. Buuttt would be sweet to score the mmj version.

I'm still waiting for them to release the early greats in flac!!! Or even better, vinyl!

Emb1528, you can still play your downloads of the Port Chester and One Big Holiday shows (or any other shows you may have downloaded) on the Pono Music Player. The Pono Music Player can play just about any digital music file you could think of. It can play FLAC-HD, FLAC, ALAC-HD, ALAC, WAV, AAC, AIFF, WMA, 320 MP3, or MP3's of lower quality...and several more formats I'm not really familiar with. When My Morning Jacket started offering their "Official Bootlegs" for downloading, there was quite a detailed discussion here on the Forum about the various audio quality/formats they were being offered in and which ones most of us on here were interested in. I decided back then that I would go ahead and purchase the best ones available (knowing full well that I would have to purchase a DAC in the not too distant future in order to fully enjoy their potential). The Pono Music Player has one of the highest quality DAC's built in. It is built by Ayre Acoustics, so that took care of the DAC issue for me.  I have all the 15 available MMJ shows in either FLAC or FLAC-HD. The only ones I have in MP3 form are the 2 Bonnaroo shows from 2004 and 2005 that are only offered in that format (since they were originally made available through Bonnaroo alone). So, you see, even if you purchased the Pono Music Player (or plan to in the future), you are not obliged or required to buy ANYTHING from the Pono Music Store. You can purchase your digital music files from anywhere and still be able to play them on your  Pono Music Player. The main hope is that people will "discover" that higher resolution digital files/downloads just sound better. In turn, people will begin to become more discerning in their digital music downloading. In fact, those of us on the Pono Kickstarter comments board have been discussing "ripping" CD's to FLAC and/or WAV for playback on the Pono Music Player for several months now. I have around 60 to 70 albums already done. I am going ahead and converting/ripping my best CD's (re-masters and hard to find albums) to 3 different formats, just to be covered in the future. I convert/rip to FLAC, WAV, and 320 MP3 just about every night. I hope to have my entire CD collection done in the next few months.

Like I said before, the Pono Music Player is capable of playing back just about any digital music format you may have. The hardware in the Player will make any file format sound somewhat better, but the main thrust of the Pono movement is to make people aware of the difference in higher resolution music files. Therefore, people will seek them out...Pono Music hopes you will want to purchase them from their soon-to-be launched Music Store, but you don't have to. You can simply live with whatever downloads you already have...whether they be from an included download card in the jacket of a new vinyl album, from iTunes, from Amazon, or converted/ripped from your own CD or vinyl collection. I hope this clears up some of the confusion. 

Again, you do not have to purchase any music from Pono in order to use the Pono Music Player. It can play back ANY FORMAT digital music file. ...but go high resolution. You won't regret it!

Long Live Pono!
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Emb1528 on Aug 05, 2014, 09:58 PM
White - Oh I totally agree that the high quality stuff makes a huuuge difference. I to have all the flac-HD offerings of the shows. I just feel like I am going to have to do some serious upgrades to my stereo system to REALLY get the full effect.

Converting all your current media is a great idea. Forward thinking my friend! Niiice.
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Mr. White on Aug 05, 2014, 10:37 PM
Quote from: Emb1528 on Aug 05, 2014, 09:58 PM
White - Oh I totally agree that the high quality stuff makes a huuuge difference. I to have all the flac-HD offerings of the shows. I just feel like I am going to have to do some serious upgrades to my stereo system to REALLY get the full effect.

Converting all your current media is a great idea. Forward thinking my friend! Niiice.

Yeah, I am probably being a bit too optimistic in saying I'll have most of my collection converted in the next few months ... unless a few months means maybe a year from now! I had been converting my CD's into those 3 formats a few months before finding out about the Pono Music Player (and being spurred into action by My Morning Jacket endorsing the Player and allowing there to be an Artist Signature Series Player made in their name). I usually put the WAV versions on my little cheap GPX MP3 player. The only lower than 320 MP3 files/songs/albums I ever listen to on my MP3 player are the ones that came free with a vinyl album or that were only available in that lesser quality MP3 form.

As far as having to upgrade all my stereo equipment, I'm not going that route. I have some basic stuff (15 year old RCA Stereo/Receiver/Amp from Radio Shack, an Audio-Technica AT-LP60-USB Turntable, random DVD Players (Sylvania and Memorex DVD Recorder, and Toshiba Blu-Ray Player). The only "High Quality" stuff I own are my 24 year old Bose Acoustimass (AM-5) speakers. The Pono Music Player should make all the difference. The way it has been described by people who have listened to it is that even with the simplest set of headphones being used, you will hear a major difference. The conversation over on their Kickstarter comments section has centered around quality headphones though. The most recent "listening parties" have proven to some that all kinds of headphones allow the listener to "hear the difference". Like I mentioned in the earlier post, the big upgrade that I was going to have to make at some point in the game was to purchase a quality DAC. Well, that is all done with the inclusion of the Ayre Acoustics DAC being installed in the Pono Player. I will probably use it at home on the stereo (with my Bose speakers) and in my car through the audio-in jack. That's the way Neil demonstrated it to people in the music industry (including to members of MMJ). I'm probably going to purchase a set of Sennheiser Momentums for my headphones, but I'm going to wait until I get the Player in my hands to truly test it out to the fullest. I'm not trying to "push" Pono on to anyone here. It seemed to only generate a lot of negative comments saying I was foolish or that it was just a "money grab" by a man that really probably already has enough money to last a couple of lifetimes.

Anyway, let's all be "Pono" to each other!
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Emb1528 on Aug 05, 2014, 11:09 PM
Yeah it's a very interesting little device. I watched some of those testimonial videos which seemed pretty cool. Some Sennheisers would be awesome!

Wait till they start offering this on quality on phones  :happy:
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: GO4IT on Aug 08, 2014, 09:42 PM
Great posts, Mr. White, articulating what Pono is and isn't.  I'm happy, along with you, that I jumped on early even though I had to take a lot on faith.  Certainly looking forward to getting my MMJ edition!
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Mr. White on Aug 08, 2014, 09:48 PM
Quote from: GO4IT on Aug 08, 2014, 09:42 PM
Great posts, Mr. White, articulating what Pono is and isn't.  I'm happy, along with you, that I jumped on early even though I had to take a lot on faith.  Certainly looking forward to getting my MMJ edition!

It's hard to believe, but it looks like you and I are the ONLY FORUM FOLK who got one...at least the only ones who still frequent this place anymore. There has to be a couple more of us out of the 96 Players sold!?! Kind of trippy if there's not...
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: johnnYYac on Aug 14, 2014, 12:40 AM
I wish I could, but I'm focusing on expanding my vinyl collection. I'd love to hear one someday, though.
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: itrainmonkeys on Aug 14, 2014, 01:06 PM
Quote from: johnnYYac on Aug 14, 2014, 12:40 AM
I wish I could, but I'm focusing on expanding my vinyl collection. I'd love to hear one someday, though.

Same here but replace "expanding my vinyl collection" with "trying to pay my bills" haha.

Would have loved to have been able to afford this but just couldn't pull the trigger.
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Mr. White on Sep 17, 2014, 01:09 AM
Pre-loaded albums on the My Morning Jacket Limited Edition Artists Signature Series Pono Music Player

Okonokos

Circuital

Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: itrainmonkeys on Sep 17, 2014, 02:38 PM
Great choice with Okonokos
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: johnnYYac on Sep 17, 2014, 05:21 PM
It should be the entire discography at that price...
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: buymycar on Sep 18, 2014, 07:13 PM
24 bit Okonokos?  :cheesy:
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: EverythingChanges on Sep 18, 2014, 10:37 PM
Quote from: johnnYYac on Sep 17, 2014, 05:21 PM
It should be the entire discography at that price...

Agreed, and if they had to pick two, Circuital really? I just don't get the Pono. I'm happy with vinyl for a more audiophile listening experience, and Spotify fulfills any other void I could have with music save for just going to a show.

Albeit an interesting idea, this just seems like an expensive gimmick. I can't tell a difference in digital music past the 320kbps mark. Past that, I feel like I would be listening too hard for a difference instead of enjoying the music. Maybe that's just me.
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Santo on Sep 18, 2014, 11:43 PM
I wonder which Okonokos track listing it will be. CD, Vinyl or DVD?
Title: Re: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: johnnYYac on Sep 19, 2014, 12:58 AM
Quote from: Santo on Sep 18, 2014, 11:43 PM
I wonder which Okonokos track listing it will be. CD, Vinyl or DVD?
Good question. Not the DVD, but I'm guessing the CD.
Title: Re: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Santo on Sep 19, 2014, 02:23 AM
Quote from: johnnYYac on Sep 19, 2014, 12:58 AM
Quote from: Santo on Sep 18, 2014, 11:43 PM
I wonder which Okonokos track listing it will be. CD, Vinyl or DVD?
Good question. Not the DVD, but I'm guessing the CD.

Given that Pono is supposed to be the best digital replication of vinyl, you would hope that it would at least be the LP boxed set. But I agree, I think it will be the CD track list. Although how could one complain about any version of Okonokos?
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Mr. White on Sep 25, 2014, 11:47 PM
From CNET "Will the $400 Pono Music Player sound like a $27,500 stereo preamplifier?"
http://www.cnet.com/news/will-the-400-pono-music-player-sound-like-a-27500-stereo-preamplifier/ (http://www.cnet.com/news/will-the-400-pono-music-player-sound-like-a-27500-stereo-preamplifier/)
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: buymycar on Oct 13, 2014, 12:23 AM
So the Pono Music store has sort of gone live (you can't buy any tracks yet). But no My Morning Jacket tracks or albums are up yet.

https://ponomusic.force.com/
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: logan5ive on Nov 07, 2014, 05:22 PM
So...has anybody received theirs yet?
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: jmoney on Nov 19, 2014, 11:20 AM
Quote from: logan5ive on Nov 07, 2014, 05:22 PM
So...has anybody received theirs yet?

Not yet nor received a shipping notification.

From what I can gather, they had production issues with the limited editions players.  While they fixed the bugs with production they kept producing the regular edition players and started shipping those early.  They have apparently worked out the production issues and should be shipping more limited edition players soon.
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Mr. White on Nov 19, 2014, 08:31 PM
Quote from: jmoney on Nov 19, 2014, 11:20 AM
Quote from: logan5ive on Nov 07, 2014, 05:22 PM
So...has anybody received theirs yet?

Not yet nor received a shipping notification.

From what I can gather, they had production issues with the limited editions players.  While they fixed the bugs with production they kept producing the regular edition players and started shipping those early.  They have apparently worked out the production issues and should be shipping more limited edition players soon.

I'll be cool with it as long as I get mine by Jan. 1, 2015. (Hopefully, it'll be in my hands by Dec. 1, 2014!) From all accounts by those who have already gotten their Pono Players, they sound wonderful! I'm extremely excited to be in on this first edition of the Player!
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: GO4IT on Nov 21, 2014, 10:51 PM
Since I ordered the MMJ edition, along with Mr White and others, I'm also waiting for mine.  As long as I get it before X-Mas I'm fine.  I won't have much time to play with it before then anyway.
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Mr. White on Nov 21, 2014, 11:26 PM
Quote from: GO4IT on Nov 21, 2014, 10:51 PM
Since I ordered the MMJ edition, along with Mr White and others, I'm also waiting for mine.  As long as I get it before X-Mas I'm fine.  I won't have much time to play with it before then anyway.

Here is the part of the most recent Pono Kickstarter Update (#50) that addresses what may be the holdup with the MMJ Pono Players
"Delivery Schedule
Many of you have asked us to publish a delivery schedule. Unfortunately, that's not possible because we have a large number of products in process and any of a multitude of reasons can change the production and shipment schedule. These reasons include the need to re-etch housings for minor cosmetic defects, possible unavailability of the artist's albums, reworking some units that failed quality inspections, regulations against bamboo boxes in some countries, etc. We did our best to prioritize things according to Kickstarter pledge sequence, however, in practice things didn't pan out the way we'd hoped.
We follow military-grade inspection specs that require sampling from each lot. If we find one defect from the samples, then we re-inspect every unit within the lot, and depending on the defect discovered, put the players through a battery of tests including a fully automatic audio test, touch screen display test, testing of all buttons and connectors, and a listening test by a real person.
Once the players are approved they are shipped to another area in the same building where each unit is weighed to ensure it contains everything intended and is scanned and matched to the individual pledgee. A label is printed only if the information is complete and passes UPS requirements. And quite candidly, that's been where the holdup has been and where a great deal of effort is now being expended to solve shipping address related issues."

I'd bet that My Morning Jacket Players fall into that category of album not available. A few weeks ago, a lot of MMJ's stuff was in the "Beta" version of the Pono Store. However, they disappeared a while back and there's only about 8 singles available at the moment. The Store is still in the works, and their pricing isn't even set yet. I just hope they get things worked out soon.
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: buymycar on Nov 21, 2014, 11:32 PM
Quote from: Mr. White on Nov 21, 2014, 11:26 PM

I'd bet that My Morning Jacket Players fall into that category of album not available. A few weeks ago, a lot of MMJ's stuff was in the "Beta" version of the Pono Store. However, they disappeared a while back and there's only about 8 singles available at the moment. The Store is still in the works, and their pricing isn't even set yet. I just hope they get things worked out soon.

Not only did the albums disappear from the store, the links that I posted in this thread disappeared as well!   :cry:
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: jmoney on Nov 24, 2014, 04:11 PM
I checked the address update they sent out in their last email.  You can go there and make sure everything they need for shipping is correct and verified.

At the bottom it lists the status of your player.  It says mine (and probably the other MMJ players) will be manufactured soon.  Not sure on turnaround time from manufacturing to shipping, but I guess we will probably be looking at an ETA of around the end of December.

Anyone else's order status state something different?
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: jmoney on Dec 05, 2014, 11:26 PM
My order status has changed.  Now it says the player will be shipped soon.  Looks like it should arrive before Christmas!
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Mr. White on Dec 07, 2014, 07:06 PM
Over at the Pono Community/Forum, James MacCallum from Canada posted this earlier today, "UPS tried to deliver my MMJ LE on Friday. But I was in the shower! :( Have to wait for Monday now." This is the first confirmed (almost) sighting of a My Morning Jacket Pono Player out in the wild! Hopefully, they will all make it to their owners by Christmas!
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: GO4IT on Dec 08, 2014, 09:39 PM
Got the following e-mail message today about my MMJ-edition Pono player:

"We've got some great news for you today! Your PonoPlayer has shipped and should be arriving shortly."

Woo hoo!! :thumbsup: :cheesy:
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Mr. White on Dec 08, 2014, 10:36 PM
Quote from: GO4IT on Dec 08, 2014, 09:39 PM
Got the following e-mail message today about my MMJ-edition Pono player:

"We've got some great news for you today! Your PonoPlayer has shipped and should be arriving shortly."

Woo hoo!! :thumbsup: :cheesy:

Same here, GO4IT! I have UPS My Choice, and it went from an estimated delivery of Dec. 15th to Dec. 10th. It should be here in less than 48 hours! I hope all goes well with the shipments. It would not be cool if a couple of the 96 or 97 Players pledged for had some sort of issue in delivery or were damaged/defective. So far, I've read on the Pono Community that a few people have already received their MMJ LE Players. Steve Carman is testing his out for the first time right now and said Circuital is in 96 kHz/24 Bit vs. the promised 48/24. Hopefully, Okonokos will be that high in kHz as well.
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: jmoney on Dec 10, 2014, 12:37 PM
Received my player today!  I got #89 out of 94.  Looks very nice!  Giving it a charge now.

I took a few pics, but I can't figure out how to post them here from my iPad.
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: GO4IT on Dec 10, 2014, 06:01 PM
Got mine today.  Here's the unboxing......

https://www.flickr.com/photos/89843352@N07/sets/72157647369942844/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/89843352@N07/sets/72157647369942844/)

Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Mr. White on Dec 10, 2014, 11:49 PM
Thanks for the wonderful photos, GO4IT. I got my Player today too! I'm #16 of 94. Okonokos is sounding pretty killer right now!
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: APR on Dec 11, 2014, 02:20 PM
For you audophiles and vinyl fans with the good sound systems (that's you Mr. GO4IT), how does it sound?  Are you using headphones?  The photos look cool.

Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: GO4IT on Dec 11, 2014, 10:07 PM
Quote from: APR on Dec 11, 2014, 02:20 PM
For you audophiles and vinyl fans with the good sound systems (that's you Mr. GO4IT), how does it sound?  Are you using headphones?  The photos look cool.
I've only used earbuds so far since I don't have high-end headphones.

By Sat I should have the cable I need to hook it to my stereo and I will do a comparison vs vinyl for Circuital and Okonokos Sat night.  That's a tough test given how great my vinyl pressing of these two albums are.  You are welcome to join me for the test and some libations. :beer:
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: APR on Dec 12, 2014, 09:57 AM
Quote from: GO4IT on Dec 11, 2014, 10:07 PM
Quote from: APR on Dec 11, 2014, 02:20 PM
For you audophiles and vinyl fans with the good sound systems (that's you Mr. GO4IT), how does it sound?  Are you using headphones?  The photos look cool.
I've only used earbuds so far since I don't have high-end headphones.

By Sat I should have the cable I need to hook it to my stereo and I will do a comparison vs vinyl for Circuital and Okonokos Sat night.  That's a tough test given how great my vinyl pressing of these two albums are.  You are welcome to join me for the test and some libations. :beer:

Great idea....that is a test I wouldn't mind taking!   I got high-end headphones about three years ago and don't know what took me so long to get them.  Good potential Christmas gift from Mrs. GO4IT.
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: GO4IT on Dec 12, 2014, 10:00 PM
Quote from: APR on Dec 12, 2014, 09:57 AM
Quote from: GO4IT on Dec 11, 2014, 10:07 PM
Quote from: APR on Dec 11, 2014, 02:20 PM
For you audophiles and vinyl fans with the good sound systems (that's you Mr. GO4IT), how does it sound?  Are you using headphones?  The photos look cool.
I've only used earbuds so far since I don't have high-end headphones.

By Sat I should have the cable I need to hook it to my stereo and I will do a comparison vs vinyl for Circuital and Okonokos Sat night.  That's a tough test given how great my vinyl pressing of these two albums are.  You are welcome to join me for the test and some libations. :beer:

Great idea....that is a test I wouldn't mind taking!   I got high-end headphones about three years ago and don't know what took me so long to get them.  Good potential Christmas gift from Mrs. GO4IT.
Well bring your headphones over tomorrow night and we'll have a three-way comparison!
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: buymycar on Dec 27, 2014, 01:35 PM
I really wish I could hear 24-bit Okonokos. I hope Pono adds it to their store soon. Those who have had it for a few weeks now, how is it?
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Mr. White on Dec 27, 2014, 10:09 PM
Quote from: buymycar on Dec 27, 2014, 01:35 PM
I really wish I could hear 24-bit Okonokos. I hope Pono adds it to their store soon. Those who have had it for a few weeks now, how is it?

Yeah buymycar, I keep checking the Pono Store for more High-Resolution releases, but there are absolutely zero albums available on there right now from MMJ. (It is still in the Beta form and only available to those who pledged for a Player or donated some money to the original Kickstarter campaign, but it is really taking a long time.)

I have always been very impressed with the mix and production of Okonokos. I have never gotten the opportunity to listen to it on vinyl, but I can say the higher-resolution version does sound fantastic. The even higher-resolution of Circuital sounds really good too. I don't listen to the original album all that much (I much prefer the live versions of the Circuital songs), but I almost thought they had gone and re-mastered it for the Pono Store. However, I think it is really my new ears via my Pono Player paired with my Sennheiser Momentum On-Ear headphones making that jump. I hope GO4IT gets back to us with a report after his Okonokos vinyl vs. High-Resolution test he was going to conduct with the help of APR.
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: buymycar on Dec 28, 2014, 01:12 AM
Thanks for your thoughts, Mr. White. I can't believe there are only 94 of these MMJ Pono Players in existence! Makes me wish I had ponied up for one. I did ask for and receive the new Sony NWZ-A17 Hi-Rez digital audio player for Christmas (retails for $300), and it sounds amazing (with the few Hi-Rez files I have). I really wish I could put some Hi-Rez MMJ on there, though! I wonder how the sound of the Sony compares to the Pono sound.
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: GO4IT on Dec 28, 2014, 09:36 PM
Quote from: Mr. White on Dec 27, 2014, 10:09 PM
Quote from: buymycar on Dec 27, 2014, 01:35 PM
I really wish I could hear 24-bit Okonokos. I hope Pono adds it to their store soon. Those who have had it for a few weeks now, how is it?

Yeah buymycar, I keep checking the Pono Store for more High-Resolution releases, but there are absolutely zero albums available on there right now from MMJ. (It is still in the Beta form and only available to those who pledged for a Player or donated some money to the original Kickstarter campaign, but it is really taking a long time.)

I have always been very impressed with the mix and production of Okonokos. I have never gotten the opportunity to listen to it on vinyl, but I can say the higher-resolution version does sound fantastic. The even higher-resolution of Circuital sounds really good too. I don't listen to the original album all that much (I much prefer the live versions of the Circuital songs), but I almost thought they had gone and re-mastered it for the Pono Store. However, I think it is really my new ears via my Pono Player paired with my Sennheiser Momentum On-Ear headphones making that jump. I hope GO4IT gets back to us with a report after his Okonokos vinyl vs. High-Resolution test he was going to conduct with the help of APR.

Hey, sorry for the delay in my review of Pono vs vinyl.  I have been diligently working on it, including the first weekend I mentioned when I had a couple of old friends over to help me with the review and I want to get it right.  Given that it was my absolute first time playing tracks with the Pono, there was some operator error, including plugging the lead into the headphone jack instead of the line out jack which made a big difference in a not so good way. Not sure why that is.  Hold the jokes about not being able to get it in the right hole :embarrassed:

Based on listens so far after these first hiccups, I feel I need to go to side-by-side comparisons, that is switching back and forth between vinyl and Pono during the songs to really discriminate.  That should tell you something.

Family, work, and holidaze have slowed my evaluation but I will post it by the end of the long New Years weekend when guests have moved on and I can do some tests at the proper volume without waking them up :cool:

Stay tuned and I hope everyone is enjoying their holidays :beer:
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: buymycar on Jan 05, 2015, 12:19 AM
For those that have the MMJ LE Pono, does the Hi-Rez version of Circuital come with the different colored "eye" artwork for each song? I'm just curious because I had forgotten that we received a lossless copy (16/44.1 in ALAC) from the Circuital download if we preordered the album from the website. I always thought it was cool that each song had a different color for its artwork.
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Mr. White on Feb 03, 2015, 11:00 PM
Quote from: buymycar on Jan 05, 2015, 12:19 AM
For those that have the MMJ LE Pono, does the Hi-Rez version of Circuital come with the different colored "eye" artwork for each song? I'm just curious because I had forgotten that we received a lossless copy (16/44.1 in ALAC) from the Circuital download if we preordered the album from the website. I always thought it was cool that each song had a different color for its artwork.
No. They,re all green.
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: buymycar on Feb 04, 2015, 12:00 AM
Quote from: Mr. White on Feb 03, 2015, 11:00 PM
Quote from: buymycar on Jan 05, 2015, 12:19 AM
For those that have the MMJ LE Pono, does the Hi-Rez version of Circuital come with the different colored "eye" artwork for each song? I'm just curious because I had forgotten that we received a lossless copy (16/44.1 in ALAC) from the Circuital download if we preordered the album from the website. I always thought it was cool that each song had a different color for its artwork.
No. They,re all green.

Thanks. It wouldn't be too hard to change the artwork, I suppose, so no big deal.

Still waiting on MMJ's additions to the Pono store. The split EP with Songs:Ohia is up there, but only in CD quality.
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: buymycar on Feb 05, 2015, 07:42 AM
Circuital is now in the Pono store, but only in 44.1kHz/16 bit? What is going on here?
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Mr. White on Feb 05, 2015, 10:28 PM
Quote from: buymycar on Feb 05, 2015, 07:42 AM
Circuital is now in the Pono store, but only in 44.1kHz/16 bit? What is going on here?

Doesn't make any sense, does it? There's been several albums from other artists that also started out as 44/16 and later got upgraded, but many have not...so far. I think Pono is having issues dealing with the big record companies. It's got to be money. They started out at really inflated prices and later some came down in price a bit. Many people are sort of waiting for the pricing and the resolution issues to play out/settle out and become somewhat stablized. Others are buying and hoping for upgrades later (Kickstarter Pledgers with the LE Players are supposed to be guaranteed free upgrades if and when a higher resolution version becomes available). I'm pretty ill that they haven't gotten ALL of My Morning Jacket's albums in the Store by now. I hope it gets straightened out soon.
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: dontgetupset on Feb 17, 2015, 02:31 PM
Pretty scary

http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2015/02/ponoplayer_review_neil_young_s_new_streaming_device_sounds_no_better_than.2.html (http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2015/02/ponoplayer_review_neil_young_s_new_streaming_device_sounds_no_better_than.2.html)
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Mr. White on Feb 17, 2015, 03:01 PM
More good reviews of the Pono Player

http://www.engadget.com/2015/01/06/pono-player-sounds-good/ (http://www.engadget.com/2015/01/06/pono-player-sounds-good/)

http://www.slashgear.com/pono-player-hands-on-believe-the-hype-06362860/ (http://www.slashgear.com/pono-player-hands-on-believe-the-hype-06362860/)

http://www.audiostream.com/content/pono-player (http://www.audiostream.com/content/pono-player)
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Derek713 on Feb 20, 2015, 10:30 AM
I saw the standard yellow Pono in a Fry's ad today for $399.00 with a free $50 gift card with purchase for anyone wanting one.
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: buymycar on Feb 22, 2015, 10:27 PM
Pono has put some remaining KickStarter Edition LE players with the signatures on sale for $499. It appears that there is one My Morning Jacket player left.
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Mr. White on Feb 24, 2015, 10:07 PM
There's been a hell of a lot of negative talk about Pono on the Interweb (mostly from those who have never listened to one themselves), but I just had to brag on the Pono Team. After reading some posts from Forum members who were upset (sad) that Spotify wasn't offering Ready To Be Called On anymore for free streaming, I decided to post the Pono Music Store link to the song (I had purchased it a couple of months ago). The song is there for a single download (all other stores on the Interweb require you to purchase the whole album).

ALSO - THE NEW RELEASE/SINGLE FROM MMJ IS AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW!!!
THE SONG IS CALLED BIG DECISIONS AND CAN BE PURCHASED FROM THE PONO MUSIC STORE FOR $1.99 ($2.11 with Tax). JUST GO TO THIS LINK, CHOOSE THE SONG, PAY FOR IT (after signing up), AND DOWNLOAD! YOU WILL BE PROMPTED TO DOWNLOAD THE PONO MUSIC WORLD APPLICATION IN ORDER TO ACTUALLY DOWNLOAD THE SONG ONTO YOUR COMPUTER. I HAVE IT ON REPLAY AND HAVE LISTENED TO THE WHOLE SONG AT LEAST 8 OR 9 TIMES NOW!

Edit: Had to repost a faulty link.


https://ponomusic.force.com/ccrz__CCPage?pageKey=artistDetails&aId=of:b16d96be7cf04d6f87c99a95e5d98fe3
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Mr. White on Feb 25, 2015, 06:53 PM
Well...it looks as though there have been several developments regarding the availability of My Morning Jacket's new single, "Big Decisions" in the Pono Music Store. It was provided to Pono by the band (or at least their record company) and was put on sale for $1.99 and dated Feb. 24, 2015. I posted the link, and several Forum members (as well as some on the Pono Community/Forum) successfully purchased it (and I say good for them/us!). Pono may have made a mistake, but we didn't! We simply searched for music from our favorite band, purchased it legally, downloaded it, and began enjoying it (sharing our joy and thoughts about it on this here mighty Forum). Now...it's status on Pono Music's Interweb site has changed to "Not In Territory"...Boooooooo! I guess it will still be in the Pono Store and made available again whenever the band (or more likely their management) decide they are ready to make money from it...again. As far as it being uploaded to YouTube for FREE viewing/downloading/listening goes...I had nothing to do with that and don't think it was a good idea for whoever did it (especially this soon after it was released, but that could have happened at any time after it was released -early or late). This is all a bit weird...and I don't mean in the "Keep Louisville Weird" kind of way. What's even weirder is that somebody here in charge of MMJ's Forum thought it wise to delete the threads discussing this whole thing. Very odd indeed! Oh well...
Long Live MMJ!
Long Live Pono!
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: highwaytothedangerzone on Feb 25, 2015, 07:16 PM
Weird is the word of the day  :huh:
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: frontwards on Feb 25, 2015, 07:37 PM
Ugh. I purchased the tune last night as well as downloaded PonoMusic World 20, but I am unable to download the song because I cannot commute with the server for whatever reason.  I changed my firewall settings for Pono, but no dice.  Bummer town.  Have any of you good folks had a similar problem by chance?
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Mr. White on Feb 11, 2022, 10:04 PM
My Morning Jacket Limited Edition Pono Music Player - 16 of 94 with Etched Autographs of All 5 Current Members & Real Autographs from Current Members - Jim, Tom, Patrick, & Carl, & Former Members - Johnny Quaid & Danny Cash - (Missing Real Autographs from Bo Koster, J. Glenn, & Chris Guetig)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51944949053_b031665015_k.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51943886367_2428245f0d_k.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51943888857_82442ef9ee_k.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51944946283_b4c4e9435f_k.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51876947825_73e7b41fcc_k.jpg)

https://www.instagram.com/p/CZ3COWFs7sB/
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: ChiefOKONO on Feb 14, 2022, 12:23 PM
Hmm interesting.  Any idea how much it is?
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: Mr. White on Feb 14, 2022, 01:20 PM
Quote from: ChiefOKONO on Feb 14, 2022, 12:23 PMHmm interesting.  Any idea how much it is?

They don't sell them any more. The Limited Edition Artist Signature Series players were only offered during the Kickstarter campaign. They were around $400.00, if I remember correctly. I actually got a Black Pono Player for free because someone in their original Forum for the Kickstarter Campaign mentioned me as a good candidate to be a Beta Tester. They sent me one in September 2014 to test out with some Hi-Res albums and singles pre-loaded, and I was supposed to send them my evaluation/feedback. They told me I could keep it. There are probably some old ones available for re-sale on ebay. Fry's had some at a discount, but this was back in 2014-2015. I use my Black Pono Player from time to time, but I hardly ever use my MMJ one. I turned it on the other day (when I took these pictures that I shared here) just to make sure the built in battery still worked. It took a very, very long time to scan the music library, but it did come alive and played.

Here's an article I just found with a quick search from 2017. It says the store for downloads went down in 2016.

http://www.noise11.com/news/r-i-p-pono-neil-young-kills-off-his-digital-player-20170423

Here's an article about how the powers that be shut down the store making it impossible for the thing to continue on as planned.

"Neil Young says record labels killed his high-resolution music player Pono
"They killed it by insisting on charging two to three times as much for the high-res files as for MP3s," claims the legendary singer-songwriter"

https://consequence.net/2018/02/neil-young-says-record-labels-killed-his-high-resolution-music-player-pono/
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: ChiefOKONO on Feb 15, 2022, 12:31 PM
Bummer for sure.  They really shouldn't charge that much more for hi res but I suppose we can't control that....
Title: Re: PonoMusic - My Morning Jacket Artist Edition
Post by: ranyart on Mar 16, 2022, 07:16 PM
Quote from: Mr. White on Feb 11, 2022, 10:04 PMMy Morning Jacket Limited Edition Pono Music Player - 16 of 94 with Etched Autographs of All 5 Current Members & Real Autographs from Current Members - Jim, Tom, Patrick, & Carl, & Former Members - Johnny Quaid & Danny Cash - (Missing Real Autographs from Bo Koster, J. Glenn, & Chris Guetig)

https://www.instagram.com/p/CZ3COWFs7sB/

That is some cool shit Mr. White.  Seriously...  :thumbsup:

My biggest problem with Pono and anything else that is a locked ecosystem forcing hardware, software, and media into a straight jacket is simple.  It just doesn't work for me or most folks.  And the "cloud" ain't worth the cloud it's built on in the long run as Pono proves once again so no telling what will happen next.