"We're in the process of doing another live record so another thing that I found while remixing this is like "Wow, all these songs have changed even more live."
http://noisey.vice.com/blog/jim-james-interview-my-morning-jacket-it-still-moves-remaster
It Still Moves, Still: Jim James Discusses My Morning Jacket's Remastered Blast from the Past
By Dan Hyman
Jim James is not one for nostalgia. Indulging in it can fool one into a grander opinion of themselves. The My Morning Jacket frontman even goes so far as to call it "dangerous." Yet his band just reissued its monumental 2003 album It Still Moves, and, by some small wonder, I found myself on the phone with James discussing it on a recent afternoon.
On the surface, It Still Moves was a mammoth success. It took a then up-and-coming band signed to a independent label into a revered major-label rock outfit in the elite class of bands to have headlined nearly every major music festival. Earwormy tracks like "One Big Holiday," "Golden," and "Mahgeetah" have become staples of the band's celebrated live show because of their anthemic choruses, ripping riffs and crowd sing-along potential. But the album always nagged at James. Yes, on the rare occasions the singer listened back to It Still Moves, he couldn't stand what he heard.
"Any time I would listen to it I would be like 'Oh man, I wish this could have come out better' or 'I wish that could have been a little more clear,'" he admits. "It didn't sound right." So when ATO Records, in celebration of the label's 15th anniversary, presented the band with the opportunity to reissue It Still Moves, the Louisville musicians jumped at the chance. The remixed and touched-up deluxe reissue, which also includes a handful of demos from the album's recording sessions, was released May 27.
Now, as James reflects back with Noisey on the album's initial recording, the remixing process, and the mountains of other My Morning Jacket demos he hopes to eventually release, he can breathe easy knowing that It Still Moves at last sounds as he'd hoped it would from the start.
Noisey: Let's start with the obvious question: What bothered you about the original version of It Still Moves?
Jim James: Well, it was just kind of that we were rushed through the original mixing process. We were still pretty new to making records. Our first two records we made completely by ourselves at our home studio. We worked on them over the course of a couple months. So we weren't rushed; as we'd finish a song we'd mix it or whatever. But with this record, when we finished, we just had this really short window of time before we were supposed to get back out on the road. So we were really stressing over mixing it. And when we tried mixing it at home it didn't sound right. So we flew out to Capitol in LA and mixed it there. When we left it we were happy with it; it's not like we were severely bumming on it. But I think we were just green and didn't know that we should have taken more time on it rather than rushing to go play more shows. We should have waited on the record or canceled the shows to take the time to finish the record.
Has it nagged at you for the last 13 years?
Hindsight is always 20/20. It's not one of those things that has made me lose sleep or anything. It's just one of those things in the back of my mind. I always thought (a reissue would happen) for more of a 25th anniversary of the album or something like that. But then when ATO approached us about wanting to re-release it for their 15th anniversary it lit up a light in my head and I was like, "Yeah, let's do that. I've always wanted to remix it anyway."
Are you one to listen back to old MMJ albums?
No. I can't listen to them. When you listen to yourself so long ago it's such a weird experience. But there are times when I had to go back and listen to a song to learn it if, say, it was a song we hadn't played in awhile just to re-remember how I played it or what I did. Those are the only times I listen to them. And any time I would do that (with It Still Moves) I would be like "Oh man, I wish this could have come out better" or "I wish that could have been a little more clear." That kind of stuff.
It Still Moves came at a very transitional point for MMJ.
It was definitely a big time of change for us. We'd signed to a major-label deal and there's always the pressure of that process and wanting to do something we believed in artistically but also hoping it would be successful. Also, after we did some touring for the record, our original guitarist (Johnny Quaid) and keyboardist (Danny Cash) left the band so it was also a lot of change and turmoil in that regard. But luckily we found (guitarist) Carl (Broemel) and (keyboardist) Bo (Koster), and they came in and have been in ever since. But yeah, it was a crazy time.
Some of the songs on the album have become live staples. Do you feel then it was a crucial one for the band?
I consider every album important. I kind of consider them all the same. I look back at them, and it's like looking back through a time machine. At that particular moment of time, whatever album it was, that was the most important thing in the world to me other than the people I love. I know every album we've done I've put every last ounce of energy that I had into it.
When looking back at old albums I also imagine there's a fine line of not indulging in the nostalgic aspect of it all.
Yeah. Nostalgia is dangerous. It's fun and it's nice, but I feel like it can be a dangerous thing if you get too sucked into it and living in the past. That's one of my favorite things about music: It will last forever. And hopefully people will enjoy it forever. Obviously everybody hopes the music they make will stand the test of time and people will want to listen to it years from now. I looked at this project as remixing this thing and getting it the way I wanted it to be and then kind of walking away from it forever. Because the rest of our catalog I don't really have any desire to revisit or remix or anything. Now I can set this one on the shelf.
How active a role did you personally play in the remixing?
We had Kevin Ratterman mix it; he's worked with us a lot and played a lot of shows with us and really knows us and also knows that record really well. So he would start and pull up the old mix and then pull up the mix he was working on and get it started, and then I would come in and say "Oh, it needs more snare or more guitar" or whatever I thought. It was a pretty quick process actually 'cause he's got really good ears. He'd cook up a quick mix and then (drummer) Patrick (Hallahan) and I would listen to it and give him a few notes. But other than that we were pretty happy about it.
I was happy to see you guys included demos for nearly every album track on the reissue.
I think that stuff's fun. I know any band I enjoy I really love hearing the demo recordings. It's such a cool thing to hear. It's usually just the person sitting there with a guitar or piano or whatever just working through the song or committing the song to tape for the first time just to remember it. I dunno... there's just something so fascinating about that when you compare it to not only what the album version ends up being but if you listen to a live recording of how the song is now it's even different still. It's kind of cool that a song can change and grow over time. We're in the process of doing another live record so another thing that I found while remixing this is like "Wow, all these songs have changed even more live."
I'd have to imagine watching these songs evolve over time in the live setting is what keeps them fresh.
Yeah, it's crazy. It just sounds different. We all change as people, and even if the song structurally hasn't changed I feel like I sing it differently or we play it faster or slower or however we've changed in regards to that song. I think that's pretty cool.
Back to the demos—do you guys have a backlog of them for all your material or is it pretty limited?
There are tons of demos for every record. That's one of the fun things as the years go by: We can do a release of demos for whatever anniversary of the record or whenever that comes up. Hopefully people would enjoy that 'cause I really enjoy that.
On a widescreen level, does a project like the It Still Moves reissue help you assess where you're at now as a songwriter versus earlier in your career?
I mean I hope the music I make always sounds different than the music I've made before. I think the only reason to want to keep listening to somebody is if they are making new sounds. Obviously part of what you do will always sound like you because you are who you are. But I feel like there's so much music in the world, and you could never listen to it all. So therefore there's so much limitless inspiration from which to make new music. I'm not listening to what I was listening to back then or living the way I was living. I try to keep an open ear.
This is the part that got me most excited:
"There are tons of demos for every record. That's one of the fun things as the years go by: We can do a release of demos for whatever anniversary of the record or whenever that comes up. Hopefully people would enjoy that 'cause I really enjoy that."
Glad Jim feels that way. I know I do!
This, to me, explains the relative silence on the livedownloads.com front. They don't want too many recent shows out there available for purchase when they have a proper live album on the horizon.
Very exciting news. I'm assuming it's the Beacon based on the no taping policy. I just hope, that in addition to the compilation of songs over the 4 nights that is likely to be the more widespread release, they also release a box set of all 4 nights for the diehard fans. Not having every song just feels criminal to me.
Nice!
I would assume the Beacon as well.
How the hell do you not follow up that answer with:
"Can you tell me about this live record?"
That's just poor journalism haha. Very exciting news though. Here's hoping for the Beacon Run to be released since I've given up hope of ever hearing the T5 shows.
Quote from: Murph on Jun 10, 2016, 03:54 PM
How the hell do you not follow up that answer with:
"Can you tell me about this live record?"
That's just poor journalism haha. Very exciting news though. Here's hoping for the Beacon Run to be released since I've given up hope of ever hearing the T5 shows.
I'm with you just about all the way there Murph! :thumbsup:
I haven't really given up on ever hearing the T5 shows but I've just stopped thinking about them. I'm the eternal optimist so always holding out hope but I'm not giving them any more thought til if and when there's an official announcement on them. :wink: :beer:
As much as I would prefer it to be T5, the Beacon seems more logical based upon the inclusion of songs from the recent albums. I've all but given up hope on T5 ever being released.
Quote from: walterfredo on Jun 10, 2016, 04:43 PM
As much as I would prefer it to be T5, the Beacon seems more logical based upon the inclusion of songs from the recent albums. I've all but given up hope on T5 ever being released.
agreed. if they do beacon, i wonder if they'll do all of the nights or a compilation.
as for T5, i'd be more than happy with buying it off of live downloads. but we'll see.
I know this is a VERY unpopular opinion around here, but I really wouldn't mind seeing a "Live Anthology"-type release, with a bunch of awesome takes from different shows stitched together to create a "show" per disc. Petty and Bruce did similar releases and I love 'em. Flows all the way through and you get bangin' take after bangin' take, no weak spots!
I'm good with compilations or anthologies in general, as the idea of getting only the best live performances from a tour, or even a series of tours, would make for a great live album. What I am NOT in favor of is for any potential compilation to take songs from Beacon or T5, at the expense of those ever getting a more comprehensive release. They seem like they were both just such a special run of shows with so many deep cuts, that it's hard to imagine me not being disappointed about something that was left off.
Now, I could care less about what format I get those complete shows in. If they put all those shows on livedownloads.com, and save the more proper "live album" for a compilation type thing, I'd be thrilled with that.
Okonokos is not a complete show, so it appears the precedent has been set. If I had to guess, it's another 4 disc record release with digital downloads of the remaining songs.
just re-visited the set lists from the beacon run and yes please - will take that as a box set!
Quote from: subinai on Jun 13, 2016, 08:05 PM
just re-visited the set lists from the beacon run and yes please - will take that as a box set!
yes. I'm in for this. how many records is that? 16 likely?
Quote from: beardedwonder on Jun 13, 2016, 10:53 PM
Quote from: subinai on Jun 13, 2016, 08:05 PM
just re-visited the set lists from the beacon run and yes please - will take that as a box set!
yes. I'm in for this. how many records is that? 16 likely?
That'll work! :thumbsup:
if the PC shows were 2-3 discs per night (based off my iTunes), i have no idea how that would translate into vinyl. my mention of a box set in my earlier post is speculation. if they did do that though it would be $$$
i dont like the idea of a limited edition vinyl boxset that costs 300 dollars for either T5 OR Beacon or whatever is coming out next....I think this live album / DVD NEEDS to be something anyone can buy to get into these guys...Okonokos got them so many fans, and still does, that needs to be replicated with the second phase of their career....cause now we're getting to the third phase....the EVIL URGES / CIRCUITAL / WATERFALL era must be captured, with applicable cuts not shown or heard on the Okonokos first volume: Phone Went West, War Begun, Picture of You, The Bear etc.
I would buy anything the guys put out, obviously, but I'd rather go for a DVD / multiple CD set instead of a vinyl only release. That seems so limiting to me...I LOVE and ADORE vinyl...but I gotta have things on multiple formats.
Knowing MMJ they'll get this exactly right. They always do
Any new rumblings on the live release which I assume will be from the Beacon run? A release leading up to the holidays perhaps?
I think its a outside shot but the "LIVE" album might very easily be the run from Lousville shows.They had the stage flowered up & it was an amazing two night.
This is the underdog call that i think takes it.
Quote from: rna2525 on Oct 18, 2016, 01:01 PM
I think its a outside shot but the "LIVE" album might very easily be the run from Lousville shows.They had the stage flowered up & it was an amazing two night.
This is the underdog call that i think takes it.
would definitely make sense for a live DVD. I feel like someone said they saw cameras set up but I am hazy on that.
Quote from: parkervb on Oct 18, 2016, 02:28 PM
Quote from: rna2525 on Oct 18, 2016, 01:01 PM
I think its a outside shot but the "LIVE" album might very easily be the run from Lousville shows.They had the stage flowered up & it was an amazing two night.
This is the underdog call that i think takes it.
would definitely make sense for a live DVD. I feel like someone said they saw cameras set up but I am hazy on that.
I was there for both Iroquois Amphitheater shows and don't remember seeing any cameras there. At last year's Ascend Amphitheater show in Nashville, there was a guy with a shoulder mounted camera recording almost the entire time from the rail (he was in the way of me and my brother on the 2nd row). They may have been recording for promotional purposes. Who knows?...
I'm thinking they put together a comprehensive, well mixed and produced Live document that will stand the test of time and represent the last year or two of performances. They have held back on live releases for the last year which creates interest and buzz for something to come out, and after it does they can start to put out the occasional LiveDownloads again which don't require meticulous mixing and production and are more for the hardcore fans. That's my 2 cents but I don't know much and am just hoping to see a stream of live releases again after listening to the Lockn' show everyday since it took place..
Quote from: Varitek on Oct 19, 2016, 12:28 AM
I'm thinking they put together a comprehensive, well mixed and produced Live document that will stand the test of time and represent the last year or two of performances. They have held back on live releases for the last year which creates interest and buzz for something to come out, and after it does they can start to put out the occasional LiveDownloads again which don't require meticulous mixing and production and are more for the hardcore fans. That's my 2 cents but I don't know much and am just hoping to see a stream of live releases again after listening to the Lockn' show everyday since it took place..
I think you are right and I think they release it next year with a tour to support.
Quote from: Clarkwork on Oct 19, 2016, 12:20 PM
Quote from: Varitek on Oct 19, 2016, 12:28 AM
I'm thinking they put together a comprehensive, well mixed and produced Live document that will stand the test of time and represent the last year or two of performances. They have held back on live releases for the last year which creates interest and buzz for something to come out, and after it does they can start to put out the occasional LiveDownloads again which don't require meticulous mixing and production and are more for the hardcore fans. That's my 2 cents but I don't know much and am just hoping to see a stream of live releases again after listening to the Lockn' show everyday since it took place..
I think you are right and I think they release it next year with a tour to support.
I would love this but if they are going back into the studio in early 2017 i dont know where they would find the time to do that. So maybe its more realistic that it becomes a record store day release or it is saved for the holiday season next year.
Quote from: Stevie on Oct 19, 2016, 04:40 PM
Quote from: Clarkwork on Oct 19, 2016, 12:20 PM
Quote from: Varitek on Oct 19, 2016, 12:28 AM
I'm thinking they put together a comprehensive, well mixed and produced Live document that will stand the test of time and represent the last year or two of performances. They have held back on live releases for the last year which creates interest and buzz for something to come out, and after it does they can start to put out the occasional LiveDownloads again which don't require meticulous mixing and production and are more for the hardcore fans. That's my 2 cents but I don't know much and am just hoping to see a stream of live releases again after listening to the Lockn' show everyday since it took place..
I think you are right and I think they release it next year with a tour to support.
I would love this but if they are going back into the studio in early 2017 i dont know where they would find the time to do that. So maybe its more realistic that it becomes a record store day release or it is saved for the holiday season next year.
A Live Album could give the band a chance to be in the news without having to do tours or press to promote, and also buy some time to work on a new album. Whatever this Live album is made up of, I bet it comes out in December or January and gives them plenty of space to work on a new album in whatever time frame they like...
Quote from: Varitek on Oct 19, 2016, 05:09 PM
Quote from: Stevie on Oct 19, 2016, 04:40 PM
Quote from: Clarkwork on Oct 19, 2016, 12:20 PM
Quote from: Varitek on Oct 19, 2016, 12:28 AM
I'm thinking they put together a comprehensive, well mixed and produced Live document that will stand the test of time and represent the last year or two of performances. They have held back on live releases for the last year which creates interest and buzz for something to come out, and after it does they can start to put out the occasional LiveDownloads again which don't require meticulous mixing and production and are more for the hardcore fans. That's my 2 cents but I don't know much and am just hoping to see a stream of live releases again after listening to the Lockn' show everyday since it took place..
I think you are right and I think they release it next year with a tour to support.
I would love this but if they are going back into the studio in early 2017 i dont know where they would find the time to do that. So maybe its more realistic that it becomes a record store day release or it is saved for the holiday season next year.
A Live Album could give the band a chance to be in the news without having to do tours or press to promote, and also buy some time to work on a new album. Whatever this Live album is made up of, I bet it comes out in December or January and gives them plenty of space to work on a new album in whatever time frame they like...
Ha, i just skipped over this coming holiday season. That makes a lot of sense.
Unfortunately, I think this band has the best intentions when it comes to live releases, but also seems to keep a pretty small camp as far as employees who can work on things like this, so when other things are happening in MMJ-land, these best intentions get pushed to the wayside. The MMJ machine is probably in full swing with Jim's upcoming album and the tour to support it. I hope I'm wrong and that there's some arm of the band's camp working on something like this, but it just doesn't seem like that's how they have operated. I remember when we were getting livedownloads every month or so, it was during a VERY dead time in MMJ land, and they sort of stopped when the Waterfall cycle came into full swing.
Quote from: MOWJO8185 on Oct 20, 2016, 12:30 PM
Unfortunately, I think this band has the best intentions when it comes to live releases, but also seems to keep a pretty small camp as far as employees who can work on things like this, so when other things are happening in MMJ-land, these best intentions get pushed to the wayside. The MMJ machine is probably in full swing with Jim's upcoming album and the tour to support it. I hope I'm wrong and that there's some arm of the band's camp working on something like this, but it just doesn't seem like that's how they have operated. I remember when we were getting livedownloads every month or so, it was during a VERY dead time in MMJ land, and they sort of stopped when the Waterfall cycle came into full swing.
I think that's okay. For a number of reasons, none of which are the quality of the band, i dont think the demand will ever reach a point where we can expect anything like what phish has where you can just download any show they play in multiple formats. I like what we have now. We get what we need and more for the most part.
Quote from: MOWJO8185 on Oct 20, 2016, 12:30 PM
Unfortunately, I think this band has the best intentions when it comes to live releases, but also seems to keep a pretty small camp as far as employees who can work on things like this, so when other things are happening in MMJ-land, these best intentions get pushed to the wayside. The MMJ machine is probably in full swing with Jim's upcoming album and the tour to support it. I hope I'm wrong and that there's some arm of the band's camp working on something like this, but it just doesn't seem like that's how they have operated. I remember when we were getting livedownloads every month or so, it was during a VERY dead time in MMJ land, and they sort of stopped when the Waterfall cycle came into full swing.
now that they have the relationship with Capitol Records, one might assume that means more resources and possibly some contractual requirements for releases.
I've been thinking that maybe there's a chance that they're hanging on to some of the recordings of their most notable shows so they can be released long down the road, to extend the legacy of the band. But they don't have to hang on to all of them...
Quote from: Stevie on Oct 20, 2016, 06:35 PM
Quote from: MOWJO8185 on Oct 20, 2016, 12:30 PM
Unfortunately, I think this band has the best intentions when it comes to live releases, but also seems to keep a pretty small camp as far as employees who can work on things like this, so when other things are happening in MMJ-land, these best intentions get pushed to the wayside. The MMJ machine is probably in full swing with Jim's upcoming album and the tour to support it. I hope I'm wrong and that there's some arm of the band's camp working on something like this, but it just doesn't seem like that's how they have operated. I remember when we were getting livedownloads every month or so, it was during a VERY dead time in MMJ land, and they sort of stopped when the Waterfall cycle came into full swing.
I think that's okay. For a number of reasons, none of which are the quality of the band, i dont think the demand will ever reach a point where we can expect anything like what phish has where you can just download any show they play in multiple formats. I like what we have now. We get what we need and more for the most part.
we got spoiled with the instant release of the port chester run - that was possible in large part due to the Cap's state of the art sound system (see what I did there?) - the band invests more in road technology for OBH so those shows can be captured safely (wind and all). However, general road shows aren't packaged electronically due to prohibitive costs - so, the best chances of getting official release material is from well established and high tech venues (red rocks, ascend, beacon, the cap). This being said, my money is on a beacon compilation - the venue had several permits posted from NYC film commission (which is a required permit for all recordings and filming) - I looked far and wide for cameras - esp given strict prohibition on film and recordings (which is another indicator) - there were a couple small fixed cameras mounted under the loge and on the wings of the stage, but no conspicuous camera guys or boom arms. Also, the quick release of EODM's I love You All The Time in near perfect sound quality indicates that the whole run got captured
but of course, I could be full of shit
I was amazed that Carl's Nashville show got released like it did. Then, I started thinking about The Basement East being pretty new and being in Nashville (Music City USA). They probably thought ahead and included/built in technology that allows for quick and easy recordings of shows performed there. Just thinking that's what it might have been...
was hoping we'd have some news by now...i'd much rather have an MMJ live album, especially a second Okonokos, than Jim's new solo album. I love Jim's solo work but...............THIS IS THE JACKET....
I remember thinking the 2 nights at Iroquois were possibly being filmed too bc of all the flowers and it being a hometown show at an awesome venue and all, but I also do not remember seeing any cameras there filming.
Those shows were incredible though and would definitely make a great release on CD or DVD.
Okonokos on CD was the first MMJ I ever heard.
Quote from: LBSUNFLWR on Oct 24, 2016, 02:04 PM
I remember thinking the 2 nights at Iroquois were possibly being filmed too bc of all the flowers and it being a hometown show at an awesome venue and all, but I also do not remember seeing any cameras there filming.
Those shows were incredible though and would definitely make a great release on CD or DVD.
Okonokos on CD was the first MMJ I ever heard.
no doubt an Okonokos II would bring even more fans
I was there for both nights of Iroquois. Saw camera guys second night before the show but when I asked them who they were filming for they said Twin Limb, and I don't believe the MMJ set was filmed, but I was 5th row so cameras very well could have been planted back towards the soundboard.
anything new?!?!?! Im dyin for this new live LP / DVD / whatever
i neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed this
this is when someone should have news about how they met up with a band member at OBH and pressed them with the question or something....I wonder why no news has come about...if anything, Jimbo and the guys are mixing this thing down right this second, hopefully out by Summer (fingers crossed)
At the very least, we should have OBH 2017 audio in a couple months. I'll take an additional show as well, most definitely!!
Quote from: sillyboob on Feb 14, 2017, 06:17 PM
At the very least, we should have OBH 2017 audio in a couple months. I'll take an additional show as well, most definitely!!
yeah that's totally true, and the OBH nights were epic! We ARE spoiled as Jacket fans, yes indeed, but there's been a bigger gap between Okonokos I and Okonokos II than I would've ever expected (no matter what it's called, if it's a Live LP / DVD and is extremely high quality, I'm probably going to call it Okonokos II) . I thought we'd get a second Okonokos after Evil Urges, then I was like OK well that makes sense, maybe after Circuital. Then, we get to The Waterfall tour and I'm like OK...NOW THIS TOUR HAS TO HAVE AN OKONOKOS FOR SURE....and now i'm hoping, along with the MMJ fans who want in on the action of Okonokos-esque greatness.
I hope someone heard something at OBHIII about a live album, because without that interview from Jimbo 7-8 months ago, we got nothin!
(fingers crossed)
I posted in shows about this earlier, but at OBH3 this year there was a substantial video crew around the entire time - both roving cameras and fixed/tripod as well. They were around for all 3 MMJ shows, and it was a larger crew than I ever remember seeing at OBH2. Seemed like serious overkill if it were just for Cloud 9 promo videos or something like that.
No idea if it means anything, and I posted hoping that someone else may have talked w/ them or heard rumors, but no luck. There were other rumors about this during the Beacon run (I remember someone posting a photo of a film permit), but I wasn't there and can't confirm.
AHHHHHHHHHH YES this is great news!!!! detective hats firmly on!
OKONOKOS II (my hopes, dreams, wants and needs all in a box, realistically and using known sources)
live: Beacon 2015
1. EVIL URGES
2. VICTORY DANCE
3. CIRCUITAL
4. SPRING (AMONG THE LIVING)
5. COMPOUND FRACTURE
6. MASTERPLAN
7. EVELYN'S NOT REAL
8. OUTTA MY SYSTEM
9. I'M AMAZED
10. IN ITS INFANCY (THE WATERFALL)
11. PICTURE OF YOU
12. WAR BEGUN
13. SLOW SLOW TUNE
14. TONITE I WANT 2 CELEBRATE WITH U
15. DEATH IS THE EASY WAY (DEATH IS MY SLEEEEEEEZAAAAY PAYBABY)
16. WONDERFUL (THE WAY I FEEL)
17. KNOT COMES LOOSE
18. THEY RAN
19. HEARTBREAKIN MAN
20. ALUMINUM PARK
21. EASY MORNING REBEL (w/ PHJB)
22. TROPICS (ERASE TRACES)
23. HOLDING ON TO BLACK METAL (w/ PHJB)
24. HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS (w/ PHJB)
25. GRAB A BODY / HIT IT & QUIT IT (Funkadelic Cover) (w/ PHJB)
26. COBRA (w/ PHJB on intro / 1st & 2nd verse only)
27. SMOKIN FROM SHOOTIN
28. TOUCH ME (I'M GOING TO SCREAM) PT. II
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29. ONLY MEMORIES REMAIN
30. THE BEAR
31. ROLLIN BACK
32. CARRIED AWAY (Carl song)
33. STATE OF THE ART (A.E.I.O.U) (Jim song)
34. THE DARK
35. PHONE WENT WEST (ULTRAGOD VERSION)
WATERFALL=5
CIRCUITAL= 6
EVIL URGES=6
Z= 1 (well what? it did have 9 songs on Okonokos I for fuck's sake haha )
IT STLL MOVES= 3
AT DAWN= 2
THE TENN. FIRE= 7
CHOC & ICE EP =1
SPLIT EP= 0
HEARTBREAKIN MAN EP= 1
MISCELLANEOUS / COVERS = 1
* Ultragod Version = the greatest Phone Went West we've ever seen / heard (how could it beat RR2012????)
i think this is exactly what the band needs to get into the fans' hands. this would expand their fanbase, get newer fans acquainted or caught up with the last three albums, while getting them into the deeper cuts and gems that they hadn't heard or had neglected until they heard a crystal clear, sonically brilliant version of it (ala what Okonokos I did to people's awareness of the band's brilliance).
with a discography as big as they have, they cannot afford to have another Okonokos where they do Wordless, OBH, Lowdown, Mahgeeta, Golden etc again and get away with it, or hope to grow their fanbase.
It's the deep cuts, damnit!!
Cheers
Quote from: Lonndown27 on Feb 27, 2017, 05:48 PM
OKONOKOS II (my hopes, dreams, wants and needs all in a box, realistically and using known sources)
live: Beacon 2015
1. EVIL URGES
2. VICTORY DANCE
3. CIRCUITAL
4. SPRING (AMONG THE LIVING)
5. COMPOUND FRACTURE
6. MASTERPLAN
7. EVELYN'S NOT REAL
8. OUTTA MY SYSTEM
9. I'M AMAZED
10. IN ITS INFANCY (THE WATERFALL)
11. PICTURE OF YOU
12. WAR BEGUN
13. SLOW SLOW TUNE
14. TONITE I WANT 2 CELEBRATE WITH U
15. DEATH IS THE EASY WAY (DEATH IS MY SLEEEEEEEZAAAAY PAYBABY)
16. WONDERFUL (THE WAY I FEEL)
17. KNOT COMES LOOSE
18. THEY RAN
19. HEARTBREAKIN MAN
20. ALUMINUM PARK
21. EASY MORNING REBEL (w/ PHJB)
22. TROPICS (ERASE TRACES)
23. HOLDING ON TO BLACK METAL (w/ PHJB)
24. HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS (w/ PHJB)
25. GRAB A BODY / HIT IT & QUIT IT (Funkadelic Cover) (w/ PHJB)
26. COBRA (w/ PHJB on intro / 1st & 2nd verse only)
27. SMOKIN FROM SHOOTIN
28. TOUCH ME (I'M GOING TO SCREAM) PT. II
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29. ONLY MEMORIES REMAIN
30. THE BEAR
31. ROLLIN BACK
32. CARRIED AWAY (Carl song)
33. STATE OF THE ART (A.E.I.O.U) (Jim song)
34. THE DARK
35. PHONE WENT WEST (ULTRAGOD VERSION)
WATERFALL=5
CIRCUITAL= 6
EVIL URGES=6
Z= 1 (well what? it did have 9 songs on Okonokos I for fuck's sake haha )
IT STLL MOVES= 3
AT DAWN= 2
THE TENN. FIRE= 7
CHOC & ICE EP =1
SPLIT EP= 0
HEARTBREAKIN MAN EP= 1
MISCELLANEOUS / COVERS = 1
* Ultragod Version = the greatest Phone Went West we've ever seen / heard (how could it beat RR2012????)
i think this is exactly what the band needs to get into the fans' hands. this would expand their fanbase, get newer fans acquainted or caught up with the last three albums, while getting them into the deeper cuts and gems that they hadn't heard or had neglected until they heard a crystal clear, sonically brilliant version of it (ala what Okonokos I did to people's awareness of the band's brilliance).
with a discography as big as they have, they cannot afford to have another Okonokos where they do Wordless, OBH, Lowdown, Mahgeeta, Golden etc again and get away with it, or hope to grow their fanbase.
It's the deep cuts, damnit!!
Cheers
There's a 0% chance that they release an official live album with no repeats from Okonokos.
how do you know? hahaha I think if they did that it'd make more sense. But, after all, I guess they'll probably show off the Steam Engine with sax version (that I really don't care for, the sax ruins it for me, it belongs in Dondante and First Light, but not Steam).....I mean do they really need to put another Wordless Chorus on Okonokos II or whatever it'll be called ?? Especially over something like War Begun? Or Cobra? It'd be a straight up travesty, in my opinion. Also, it'd show Evil Urges and Circuital's songs in a whole new light, because we all know those albums are better on stage. You're pragmatically right, though...sadly.
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/8061828/jim-james-tribute-to-2-interview
we now have yet another official notice: 2018 = new live record / maybe something DVD wise i hope too but either way, Jimbo says "ITS IN THE CAN".....this thing is in the post production phase, we're talking after mixing and on to mastering and the concept, packaging etc. i wonder what fucking songs were picked...its gonna be nuts.
I feel like literally bowing to the guys for this three-fer: NYE, OBH4 then new live record...that shoild more than satisfy us fans for until 2019, as well as Tribute To and hopefully a Carl record
Quote from: Lonndown27 on Dec 07, 2017, 08:05 PM
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/8061828/jim-james-tribute-to-2-interview
we now have yet another official notice: 2018 = new live record / maybe something DVD wise i hope too but either way, Jimbo says "ITS IN THE CAN".....this thing is in the post production phase, we're talking after mixing and on to mastering and the concept, packaging etc. i wonder what fucking songs were picked...its gonna be nuts.
I feel like literally bowing to the guys for this three-fer: NYE, OBH4 then new live record...that shoild more than satisfy us fans for until 2019, as well as Tribute To and hopefully a Carl record
I have my hopes up
REALLY HIGH right now but he does say these "could hopefully come out next year," so theres a definite chance thats another big interview tease for the live album/2nd waterfall album. but UGH I want it to be real!! This combining with the new weird gif/logo-y thing they put on instagram today gives me hope that this happens sooner rather than later
Quote from: jttouch2 on Dec 07, 2017, 11:17 PM
Quote from: Lonndown27 on Dec 07, 2017, 08:05 PM
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/8061828/jim-james-tribute-to-2-interview
we now have yet another official notice: 2018 = new live record / maybe something DVD wise i hope too but either way, Jimbo says "ITS IN THE CAN".....this thing is in the post production phase, we're talking after mixing and on to mastering and the concept, packaging etc. i wonder what fucking songs were picked...its gonna be nuts.
I feel like literally bowing to the guys for this three-fer: NYE, OBH4 then new live record...that shoild more than satisfy us fans for until 2019, as well as Tribute To and hopefully a Carl record
I have my hopes up REALLY HIGH right now but he does say these "could hopefully come out next year," so theres a definite chance thats another big interview tease for the live album/2nd waterfall album. but UGH I want it to be real!! This combining with the new weird gif/logo-y thing they put on instagram today gives me hope that this happens sooner rather than later
EXACTLY!!!! the GIF is a huge clue!!!
and now its on the back of a limited edition run of really fuckin cool jackets and this is from someone who doesnt like denim jackets
OKONOKOS II
recorded live at the Beacon Theater, NYC 2015 and Iroqouis Theater, Louisville 2016
except where noted
1. EVIL URGES
2. VICTORY DANCE
3. CIRCUITAL
4. THE DARK
5. MASTERPLAN
6. COMPOUND FRACTURE
7. I'M AMAZED
8. EVELYN'S NOT REAL
9. OUTTA MY SYSTEM
10.JUST BECAUSE I DO
11.WAR BEGUN
12.PICTURE OF YOU
13.SLOW SLOW TUNE
14.WONDERFUL
15.TONITE I WANT 2 CELEBRATE WITH U
16.DEATH IS THE EASY WAY
17.THEY RAN
18.HEARTBREAKIN MAN
19.ALUMINUM PARK
20.SPRING (AMONG THE LIVING) / OFF THE RECORD (hybrid jam from MPP 2017)
21.EASY MORNING REBEL
22.TROPICS
23.HOLDIN ON TO BLACK METAL
24.DONDANTE
25.GIDEON
26.SMOKIN FROM SHOOTIN
27.TOUCH ME PT.II
28.THE BEAR
29.ONLY MEMORIES REMAIN
30.CARRIED AWAY
31.ROLLIN BACK
32.STATE OF THE ART (A.E.I.O.U)
33.COBRA (14 minutes made up of a few different Cobras to extend it)
34.PHONE WENT WEST
3 disc set
hopefully with a DVD to go with it.
the Beacon could've been filmed by tiny tiny cameras??? has anyone thought of that possiblity cause i definitely have.
Quote from: Lonndown27 on Dec 11, 2017, 01:17 PM
OKONOKOS II
recorded live at the Beacon Theater, NYC 2015 and Iroqouis Theater, Louisville 2016
except where noted
1. EVIL URGES
2. VICTORY DANCE
3. CIRCUITAL
4. THE DARK
5. MASTERPLAN
6. COMPOUND FRACTURE
7. I'M AMAZED
8. EVELYN'S NOT REAL
9. OUTTA MY SYSTEM
10.JUST BECAUSE I DO
11.WAR BEGUN
12.PICTURE OF YOU
13.SLOW SLOW TUNE
14.WONDERFUL
15.TONITE I WANT 2 CELEBRATE WITH U
16.DEATH IS THE EASY WAY
17.THEY RAN
18.HEARTBREAKIN MAN
19.ALUMINUM PARK
20.SPRING (AMONG THE LIVING) / OFF THE RECORD (hybrid jam from MPP 2017)
21.EASY MORNING REBEL
22.TROPICS
23.HOLDIN ON TO BLACK METAL
24.DONDANTE
25.GIDEON
26.SMOKIN FROM SHOOTIN
27.TOUCH ME PT.II
28.THE BEAR
29.ONLY MEMORIES REMAIN
30.CARRIED AWAY
31.ROLLIN BACK
32.STATE OF THE ART (A.E.I.O.U)
33.COBRA (14 minutes made up of a few different Cobras to extend it)
34.PHONE WENT WEST
3 disc set
hopefully with a DVD to go with it.
the Beacon could've been filmed by tiny tiny cameras??? has anyone thought of that possiblity cause i definitely have.
1. Circuital
2. The Dark
3. Compound Fracture
4. Touch Me Pt. 1
5. I'm Amazed
6. Spring/OTR/hybrid jam
7. Outta My System
8. In It's Infancy
9. Only Memories Remain
10. Picture of You (RR 2016 version)
11. State of the Art (AEIOU)
12. Smokin' from Shootin
13. Tropics
14. Carried Away
15. War Begun>IWSYS
16. Dondante
17. Victory Dance>
18. end of Run Thru
19. Touch Me Pt. 2>
20. Cobra
21. Phone Went West
22. Wonderful (the Way I Feel)
23. Evil Urges
24. Highly Suspicious
25. Steam Engine
26. Holdin' On to Black Metal
27. One Big Holiday
This what I think we will get. maybe a couple less songs and a couple more repeats, but this is probably the best realistic option IMO. I would LOVE that 34 song behemoth you threw out there though so heres to hoping :grin: :grin: :grin:
Quote from: jttouch2 on Dec 11, 2017, 05:21 PM
Quote from: Lonndown27 on Dec 11, 2017, 01:17 PM
OKONOKOS II
recorded live at the Beacon Theater, NYC 2015 and Iroqouis Theater, Louisville 2016
except where noted
1. EVIL URGES
2. VICTORY DANCE
3. CIRCUITAL
4. THE DARK
5. MASTERPLAN
6. COMPOUND FRACTURE
7. I'M AMAZED
8. EVELYN'S NOT REAL
9. OUTTA MY SYSTEM
10.JUST BECAUSE I DO
11.WAR BEGUN
12.PICTURE OF YOU
13.SLOW SLOW TUNE
14.WONDERFUL
15.TONITE I WANT 2 CELEBRATE WITH U
16.DEATH IS THE EASY WAY
17.THEY RAN
18.HEARTBREAKIN MAN
19.ALUMINUM PARK
20.SPRING (AMONG THE LIVING) / OFF THE RECORD (hybrid jam from MPP 2017)
21.EASY MORNING REBEL
22.TROPICS
23.HOLDIN ON TO BLACK METAL
24.DONDANTE
25.GIDEON
26.SMOKIN FROM SHOOTIN
27.TOUCH ME PT.II
28.THE BEAR
29.ONLY MEMORIES REMAIN
30.CARRIED AWAY
31.ROLLIN BACK
32.STATE OF THE ART (A.E.I.O.U)
33.COBRA (14 minutes made up of a few different Cobras to extend it)
34.PHONE WENT WEST
3 disc set
hopefully with a DVD to go with it.
the Beacon could've been filmed by tiny tiny cameras??? has anyone thought of that possiblity cause i definitely have.
1. Circuital
2. The Dark
3. Compound Fracture
4. Touch Me Pt. 1
5. I'm Amazed
6. Spring/OTR/hybrid jam
7. Outta My System
8. In It's Infancy
9. Only Memories Remain
10. Picture of You (RR 2016 version)
11. State of the Art (AEIOU)
12. Smokin' from Shootin
13. Tropics
14. Carried Away
15. War Begun>IWSYS
16. Dondante
17. Victory Dance>
18. end of Run Thru
19. Touch Me Pt. 2>
20. Cobra
21. Phone Went West
22. Wonderful (the Way I Feel)
23. Evil Urges
24. Highly Suspicious
25. Steam Engine
26. Holdin' On to Black Metal
27. One Big Holiday
This what I think we will get. maybe a couple less songs and a couple more repeats, but this is probably the best realistic option IMO. I would LOVE that 34 song behemoth you threw out there though so heres to hoping :grin: :grin: :grin:
i would have no problem with the one you just put up! either or would be fine as long as some of the best songs arent skipped over.
requirements:
Phone Went West
War Begun
Smokin' From Shootin
Spring
Touch Me pt 2
Tropics
Quote from: gardenparty on Dec 18, 2017, 06:52 PM
requirements:
Phone Went West
War Begun
Smokin' From Shootin
Spring
Touch Me pt 2
Tropics
i like this hahah
here's mine:
PHONE WENT WEST (obviously)
EASY MORNING REBEL
MASTERPLAN
WAR BEGUN (duh)
SMOKIN FROM SHOOTIN / TOUCH ME II
SPRING / OFF THE RECORD (hybrid jam)
CARRIED AWAY
STATE OF THE ART
THEY RAN
EVELYN
EVIL URGES
ALUMINUM PARK
etc upon etc upon etc
just do the right thing boys
- the 2 or 3 disc official upcoming live album from the Beacon 2015 shows
- a two DVD set from Dec 29-31st in Denver, 2017, along with a bonus DVD showing them putting the shows together, interviews with fans and the band
- a single DVD consisting of the entire Bonnaroo 2008 performance with testimony from people who witnessed it as a bonus feature
- both nights at Red Rocks, 2016, in their entirety , one disc per show, with possible backstage footage showing Johnny Quaid and the band. A mini documentary, as a bonus feature, showing Johnny coming back into the band and his and the band's feelings on that, with a little bit of historical footage to show the journey from lead guitarist to ex-band member, to back in the band time to time as a guest, all while still being friends and family with the band, cordial and perfect. I dunno about you guys, but when those two shows went down and they had Johnny up onstage for some of those songs I cried my eyes out. You know how much it meant to him and to them....it was glorious. I get there's a few noticable issues with whether his guitar is actually buried in the mix, but we'll find that out if they ever release the real deal.
- another disc consisting of Bonnaroo 2006, the full performance!
this project would take a lot of time to get through, with license clearings for the covers, etc, BUT BUT BUT...maybe that'd explain why the band haven't released one in 12 fucking years (which is a century in the time of this band).
everything i just mentioned deserves that exact, pampered release!
and then two years later, when that boxset sells like hotcakes and becomes the biggest selling and greatest box set of all time, the band release yet another on vinyl and CD "LIVE AT TERMINAL 5: ALL 5 NIGHTS" with a bonus DVD featuring a documentary on the shows AND IF THERE'S FOOTAGE OF ALL 5 NIGHTS, INCLUDE IT!!!!
Quote from: Lonndown27 on Dec 21, 2017, 05:22 PM
- the 2 or 3 disc official upcoming live album from the Beacon 2015 shows
- a two DVD set from Dec 29-31st in Denver, 2017, along with a bonus DVD showing them putting the shows together, interviews with fans and the band
- a single DVD consisting of the entire Bonnaroo 2008 performance with testimony from people who witnessed it as a bonus feature
- both nights at Red Rocks, 2016, in their entirety , one disc per show, with possible backstage footage showing Johnny Quaid and the band. A mini documentary, as a bonus feature, showing Johnny coming back into the band and his and the band's feelings on that, with a little bit of historical footage to show the journey from lead guitarist to ex-band member, to back in the band time to time as a guest, all while still being friends and family with the band, cordial and perfect. I dunno about you guys, but when those two shows went down and they had Johnny up onstage for some of those songs I cried my eyes out. You know how much it meant to him and to them....it was glorious. I get there's a few noticable issues with whether his guitar is actually buried in the mix, but we'll find that out if they ever release the real deal.
- another disc consisting of Bonnaroo 2006, the full performance!
this project would take a lot of time to get through, with license clearings for the covers, etc, BUT BUT BUT...maybe that'd explain why the band haven't released one in 12 fucking years (which is a century in the time of this band).
everything i just mentioned deserves that exact, pampered release!
and then two years later, when that boxset sells like hotcakes and becomes the biggest selling and greatest box set of all time, the band release yet another on vinyl and CD "LIVE AT TERMINAL 5: ALL 5 NIGHTS" with a bonus DVD featuring a documentary on the shows AND IF THERE'S FOOTAGE OF ALL 5 NIGHTS, INCLUDE IT!!!!
I'm gonna go towel off now
Quote from: gardenparty on Dec 28, 2017, 01:52 PM
Quote from: Lonndown27 on Dec 21, 2017, 05:22 PM
- the 2 or 3 disc official upcoming live album from the Beacon 2015 shows
- a two DVD set from Dec 29-31st in Denver, 2017, along with a bonus DVD showing them putting the shows together, interviews with fans and the band
- a single DVD consisting of the entire Bonnaroo 2008 performance with testimony from people who witnessed it as a bonus feature
- both nights at Red Rocks, 2016, in their entirety , one disc per show, with possible backstage footage showing Johnny Quaid and the band. A mini documentary, as a bonus feature, showing Johnny coming back into the band and his and the band's feelings on that, with a little bit of historical footage to show the journey from lead guitarist to ex-band member, to back in the band time to time as a guest, all while still being friends and family with the band, cordial and perfect. I dunno about you guys, but when those two shows went down and they had Johnny up onstage for some of those songs I cried my eyes out. You know how much it meant to him and to them....it was glorious. I get there's a few noticable issues with whether his guitar is actually buried in the mix, but we'll find that out if they ever release the real deal.
- another disc consisting of Bonnaroo 2006, the full performance!
this project would take a lot of time to get through, with license clearings for the covers, etc, BUT BUT BUT...maybe that'd explain why the band haven't released one in 12 fucking years (which is a century in the time of this band).
everything i just mentioned deserves that exact, pampered release!
and then two years later, when that boxset sells like hotcakes and becomes the biggest selling and greatest box set of all time, the band release yet another on vinyl and CD "LIVE AT TERMINAL 5: ALL 5 NIGHTS" with a bonus DVD featuring a documentary on the shows AND IF THERE'S FOOTAGE OF ALL 5 NIGHTS, INCLUDE IT!!!!
I'm gonna go towel off now
haha what does that exactly mean??
On KCRW this morning, Jim just confirmed the live album is finished . No more details
also he plans on releasing another solo album this summer. hmm
Quote from: gardenparty on Jan 17, 2018, 02:29 PM
On KCRW this morning, Jim just confirmed the live album is finished . No more details
also he plans on releasing another solo album this summer. hmm
This live album has been in talks for ages it seems. Now that Jim says it's done, what's the holdup on releasing it?? If they're waiting to release it to promote some live shows, that doesn't bode well, with the only live shows coming up being One Big Holiday, which was five rooms from a sellout as of yesterday.
What gives??
Quote from: sillyboob on Jan 17, 2018, 03:30 PM
Quote from: gardenparty on Jan 17, 2018, 02:29 PM
On KCRW this morning, Jim just confirmed the live album is finished . No more details
also he plans on releasing another solo album this summer. hmm
Quote from: sillyboob on Jan 17, 2018, 03:30 PM
Quote from: gardenparty on Jan 17, 2018, 02:29 PM
On KCRW this morning, Jim just confirmed the live album is finished . No more details
also he plans on releasing another solo album this summer. hmm
This live album has been in talks for ages it seems. Now that Jim says it's done, what's the holdup on releasing it?? If they're waiting to release it to promote some live shows, that doesn't bode well, with the only live shows coming up being One Big Holiday, which was five rooms from a sellout as of yesterday.
What gives??
This live album has been in talks for ages it seems. Now that Jim says it's done, what's the holdup on releasing it?? If they're waiting to release it to promote some live shows, that doesn't bode well, with the only live shows coming up being One Big Holiday, which was five rooms from a sellout as of yesterday.
What gives??
I'm guessing it will be announced after OBH.
Gotta stretch the limited activity across the entire year if there is no touring and potentially no new studio album.
Maybe live album out this spring and a new album announced late fall?
Quote from: sillyboob on Jan 17, 2018, 03:30 PM
Quote from: gardenparty on Jan 17, 2018, 02:29 PM
On KCRW this morning, Jim just confirmed the live album is finished . No more details
also he plans on releasing another solo album this summer. hmm
This live album has been in talks for ages it seems. Now that Jim says it's done, what's the holdup on releasing it?? If they're waiting to release it to promote some live shows, that doesn't bode well, with the only live shows coming up being One Big Holiday, which was five rooms from a sellout as of yesterday.
What gives??
My hope is that now that the Waterfall tour seems to be officially over we'll start to hear of these new things coming out. We're all starved for them that's for sure. I'm really wanting the Broomfield shows to come out as downloads too. So much stuff we need MMJ
Quote from: rkwedge on Jan 17, 2018, 03:44 PM
Quote from: sillyboob on Jan 17, 2018, 03:30 PM
Quote from: gardenparty on Jan 17, 2018, 02:29 PM
On KCRW this morning, Jim just confirmed the live album is finished . No more details
also he plans on releasing another solo album this summer. hmm
This live album has been in talks for ages it seems. Now that Jim says it's done, what's the holdup on releasing it?? If they're waiting to release it to promote some live shows, that doesn't bode well, with the only live shows coming up being One Big Holiday, which was five rooms from a sellout as of yesterday.
What gives??
My hope is that now that the Waterfall tour seems to be officially over we'll start to hear of these new things coming out. We're all starved for them that's for sure. I'm really wanting the Broomfield shows to come out as downloads too. So much stuff we need MMJ
He also mentioned the 2nd part of the Waterfall we've heard about for a while now is finished. Sounds like we'll have the new live one, and that to get us through the year. In addition to any solo stuff
Love the idea of a live album coming out this year, love the idea of another Jim solo album coming out this year, I still cant get behind the idea that the next MMJ record will be stuff left over from the Waterfall sessions. I'd rather they scrap all that stuff for a later time (throw it in the vault, if you will), go back in and start fresh and see what they can come up with. I wouldnt even care if that took until 2020.
End of the day though, I'll gladly listen to whatever they put out.
Quote from: gardenparty on Jan 17, 2018, 03:41 PM
Quote from: sillyboob on Jan 17, 2018, 03:30 PM
Quote from: gardenparty on Jan 17, 2018, 02:29 PM
On KCRW this morning, Jim just confirmed the live album is finished . No more details
also he plans on releasing another solo album this summer. hmm
Quote from: sillyboob on Jan 17, 2018, 03:30 PM
Quote from: gardenparty on Jan 17, 2018, 02:29 PM
On KCRW this morning, Jim just confirmed the live album is finished . No more details
also he plans on releasing another solo album this summer. hmm
This live album has been in talks for ages it seems. Now that Jim says it's done, what's the holdup on releasing it?? If they're waiting to release it to promote some live shows, that doesn't bode well, with the only live shows coming up being One Big Holiday, which was five rooms from a sellout as of yesterday.
What gives??
This live album has been in talks for ages it seems. Now that Jim says it's done, what's the holdup on releasing it?? If they're waiting to release it to promote some live shows, that doesn't bode well, with the only live shows coming up being One Big Holiday, which was five rooms from a sellout as of yesterday.
What gives??
I'm guessing it will be announced after OBH.
Gotta stretch the limited activity across the entire year if there is no touring and potentially no new studio album.
Maybe live album out this spring and a new album announced late fall?
Here's a question about OBH - the past three OBHs were made available as downloads (and were included with the admission price for all attendees) pretty quickly after the shows. I haven't seen anything about that for OBH4, although I'm assuming we will still be getting audio downloads of all three nights. Does anyone have any info on that? Are we really going to get 4 live albums this year???
When the new live album comes out, I will certainly buy it. I do have a question though. With all of the quality MMJ recordings for free on Archive.org, what is the general reason everyone is so excited about an official release? Is it to see what they chose to release and see if it matches up to expectations, release of versions not readily available online, or simply the tangible greatness of holding, looking at, and playing new MMJ vinyl? I mean, after all, most of the music is out there and available for free downloads.
Quote from: rincon2 on Jan 18, 2018, 12:11 PM
When the new live album comes out, I will certainly buy it. I do have a question though. With all of the quality MMJ recordings for free on Archive.org, what is the general reason everyone is so excited about an official release? Is it to see what they chose to release and see if it matches up to expectations, release of versions not readily available online, or simply the tangible greatness of holding, looking at, and playing new MMJ vinyl? I mean, after all, most of the music is out there and available for free downloads.
well if it's the Beacon shows, then the question is moot really.
But, I think the band will ensure the mix meets their expectations and that it will far exceed the aud recordings that are out there (as good as many of them are). I also feel the selections they make will reflect their feelings about who they are as a band at that time and place and to me, that's also interesting.
I just got a Pearl Jam live record where the audio had been out for years (Soldier Field 1995) and it was FAR better than the decent radio rips that had been out there. It showed me how much impact professional mixing can have, esp on a live record.
Quote from: parkervb on Jan 18, 2018, 01:52 PM
Quote from: rincon2 on Jan 18, 2018, 12:11 PM
When the new live album comes out, I will certainly buy it. I do have a question though. With all of the quality MMJ recordings for free on Archive.org, what is the general reason everyone is so excited about an official release? Is it to see what they chose to release and see if it matches up to expectations, release of versions not readily available online, or simply the tangible greatness of holding, looking at, and playing new MMJ vinyl? I mean, after all, most of the music is out there and available for free downloads.
well if it's the Beacon shows, then the question is moot really.
But, I think the band will ensure the mix meets their expectations and that it will far exceed the aud recordings that are out there (as good as many of them are). I also feel the selections they make will reflect their feelings about who they are as a band at that time and place and to me, that's also interesting.
I just got a Pearl Jam live record where the audio had been out for years (Soldier Field 1995) and it was FAR better than the decent radio rips that had been out there. It showed me how much impact professional mixing can have, esp on a live record.
Good answer. Can you school me on the specialness of the Beacon show? I saw the setlist and it is a good one, but so are many other shows. Not being a dick, just not up on everything.
I wasn't at the Beacon shows, but I think this article covers a good amount of the reasons why that run was so special: https://www.stereogum.com/1846327/four-nights-at-the-beacon-theatre-with-my-morning-jacket/concert/
I wasn't there either but 89 songs over 4 nights and no cameras allowed so very little footage or audio exists. There's a video on youtube of PWW that's pretty good but not much else.
OK. I clearly get it. :thumbsup: 4 night run with little or no taping. Even a 6 album release is only gonna scratch that surface. I'm on that bandwagon now, as opposed to the theory that it will be the summer '17 tour.
Quote from: rkwedge on Jan 18, 2018, 04:09 PM
I wasn't there either but 89 songs over 4 nights and no cameras allowed so very little footage or audio exists. There's a video on youtube of PWW that's pretty good but not much else.
Best Phone I've ever seen! :thumbsup:
Quote from: ericm on Jan 18, 2018, 04:28 PM
Quote from: rkwedge on Jan 18, 2018, 04:09 PM
I wasn't there either but 89 songs over 4 nights and no cameras allowed so very little footage or audio exists. There's a video on youtube of PWW that's pretty good but not much else.
Best Phone I've ever seen! :thumbsup:
Agreed Eric, ever since I saw that video I've dreamed of a soundboard quality version of that performance. One of my favorite songs and the best version. :tongue:
Quote from: rkwedge on Jan 18, 2018, 04:46 PM
Quote from: ericm on Jan 18, 2018, 04:28 PM
Quote from: rkwedge on Jan 18, 2018, 04:09 PM
I wasn't there either but 89 songs over 4 nights and no cameras allowed so very little footage or audio exists. There's a video on youtube of PWW that's pretty good but not much else.
Best Phone I've ever seen! :thumbsup:
Agreed Eric, ever since I saw that video I've dreamed of a soundboard quality version of that performance. One of my favorite songs and the best version. :tongue:
Ahh man, right there with ya. 🙏 🙏
The whole run was just amazing and there were so many highlights but that Phone, man it's right at the top and we still continue to talk about how blown away we were by it.
I'm hoping the new live album is from the Beacon. Not just because I was fortunate to have been there but so everyone who wasn't can experience what we were treated to. :beer:
that beacon phone was majestic. one of my top all time live jacket moments, right up there with anything from the t5 or port chester runs.
would love for the whole beacon run to see the light of day.
Quote from: ericm on Jan 18, 2018, 05:15 PM
Quote from: rkwedge on Jan 18, 2018, 04:46 PM
Quote from: ericm on Jan 18, 2018, 04:28 PM
Quote from: rkwedge on Jan 18, 2018, 04:09 PM
I wasn't there either but 89 songs over 4 nights and no cameras allowed so very little footage or audio exists. There's a video on youtube of PWW that's pretty good but not much else.
Best Phone I've ever seen! :thumbsup:
Agreed Eric, ever since I saw that video I've dreamed of a soundboard quality version of that performance. One of my favorite songs and the best version. :tongue:
Ahh man, right there with ya. 🙏 🙏
The whole run was just amazing and there were so many highlights but that Phone, man it's right at the top and we still continue to talk about how blown away we were by it.
I'm hoping the new live album is from the Beacon. Not just because I was fortunate to have been there but so everyone who wasn't can experience what we were treated to. :beer:
exactly we need it to be from The Beacon shows...so much amazing music to choose from, especially songs not found on Okonokos.
We need the songs to not have a single repeat from Okonokos, BUT IF THEY DO, I'm okay with just Beats 4 U (with the new solo), Gideon (with the new end jam) and Dondante or Steam, but not more than 3 repeats. This band has so much music that's still not commercially noticed and that's a problem. I want this band to have all the success in the world and we've been lucky to see their gradual rise to this positon.
The NYE shows gave us all a look at what an arena Jacket band would be like and all I can say is SIGN ME THE FUCK UP (as long as it stays to a bit more than this level, ill be fine, i know our boys will stay grounded like they always do, they deserve everything good in this world).
But the MUSTS of the day are:
AT DAWN:
-PWW from Beacon 2015, we need to hear it at its optimum (a DVD release would be perfect for this type of a scene, Carl headbanging against the light of christ, Jim going nuts and doing his hilariously badass voodoo dancing, oh my god....that youtube video alone makes me shake
-DEATH IS THE EASY WAY
-JUST BECAUSE I DO or HONEST MAN?
TENNESSEE FIRE:
-THEY RAN from Beacon 2015 with those swimming guitars of Carl and Jim, such brilliance!!! They Ran 2015 set a new standard for They Ran for time and all eternity.
-HEARTBREAKIN MAN from Beacon 2015
-EVELYNS NOT REAL
-THE DARK
-IT'S ABOUT TWILIGHT NOW
-THE BEAR
-PICTURE OF YOU
-WAR BEGUN
ISM
-MASTERPLAN
-ROLLIN BACK
-EASY MORNING REBEL
-JUST ONE THING
-DANCEFLOORZZ (we need footage of it as we didnt get that sadly for Okonokos)
Z
no need for a new version of Off The Record unless thats the Merriweather 2017 recording combination hybrid jam with Spring...that IS what its all about if you're gonna be showing songs from Okonokos I in a new light at all, THATS how you do it!!!
since Z was so well covered by Okonokos (every song except for INTO THE WOODS and KNOT COMES LOOSE) I think it's only fair if maybe just this comes from it:
- KNOT COMES LOOSE
- OFF THE RECORD / SPRING hybrid jam
at least 7 songs from EVIL URGES: my 7 would be:
- EVIL URGES
- ALUMINUM PARK (so underrated and so kickass)
- SMOKIN FROM SHOOTIN
- TOUCH ME II
- HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS
- THANK YOU TOO (possibly???) or maybe LOOK AT YOU??? im in for TU2
- IM AMAZED
5 or 6 from CIRCUITAL
- VICTORY DANCE
- CIRCUITAL
- OUTTA MY SYSTEM
- SLOW SLOW TUNE
- WONDERFUL (i'd trade this for any other great acoustic Jacket song especially inc. EASYWAY)
- HOLDIN ON TO BLACK METAL (i hope they dont include it but i know they will)
a few from WATERFALL
- SPRING
- TROPICS
- COMPOUND FRACTURE
- ONLY MEMORIES REMAIN
and that sounds about right from the Waterfall
then odds and ends, odds and sods, pricks and nobs:
- STATE OF THE ART
- DOWN ON THE BOTTOM
- CARRIED AWAY
- TONITE I WANT 2 CELEBRATE WITH U
- COBRA FOR DAMN SURE (i'd even take a weird collage of fifteen different Cobras that extends it to 14 minutes ahahah)
Quote from: crooney on Jan 18, 2018, 05:36 PM
that beacon phone was majestic. one of my top all time live jacket moments, right up there with anything from the t5 or port chester runs.
would love for the whole beacon run to see the light of day.
Totally agree and it's right up there for me as well. High praise considering some of the things I've been really lucky to have seen but well deserved. It was that great! :beer:
finally this thread is alive!!!!
Quote from: sillyboob on Jan 18, 2018, 04:03 PM
I wasn't at the Beacon shows, but I think this article covers a good amount of the reasons why that run was so special: https://www.stereogum.com/1846327/four-nights-at-the-beacon-theatre-with-my-morning-jacket/concert/
Nice write up and I don't remember seeing that before. That pic was exactly my spot for night 3. :shocked:
Quote from: parkervb on Jan 18, 2018, 01:52 PM
Quote from: rincon2 on Jan 18, 2018, 12:11 PM
When the new live album comes out, I will certainly buy it. I do have a question though. With all of the quality MMJ recordings for free on Archive.org, what is the general reason everyone is so excited about an official release? Is it to see what they chose to release and see if it matches up to expectations, release of versions not readily available online, or simply the tangible greatness of holding, looking at, and playing new MMJ vinyl? I mean, after all, most of the music is out there and available for free downloads.
well if it's the Beacon shows, then the question is moot really.
But, I think the band will ensure the mix meets their expectations and that it will far exceed the aud recordings that are out there (as good as many of them are). I also feel the selections they make will reflect their feelings about who they are as a band at that time and place and to me, that's also interesting.
I just got a Pearl Jam live record where the audio had been out for years (Soldier Field 1995) and it was FAR better than the decent radio rips that had been out there. It showed me how much impact professional mixing can have, esp on a live record.
Good question and answer. I like the archive recordings but don't spend much time listening to them because of the sound. I'm no audiophile, but I way prefer the 12/31/17 Sirius broadcast or some of the other radio station recordings like the Queens show from NYC last summer. So you could argue that with enough of those types of amazing soundings shows that another live album isn't really necessary. With nine shows from Mexico, three from Port Chester, a few Red Rocks and others I don't think we're hurting for great sounding shows. And I don't know how much better a properly mixed show could sound to my ears. But if it's MMJ, I want to get it and listen to it over and over.
And I agree with Parker about what the band actually selects being interesting. I love the songs, the flow, and Jim's banter on Celebration de la Ciudad Natal. The version of Dondante on that disc is one of the greatest Dondantes ever.
a beacon box set make the most sense. and it sounds right.
unless they just come completely out of the blue with the long awaited T5. Just don't see that happening though.
The beacon is such a legendary venue. T5 is a fucking shithole! (but it was a helluva shithole for 5 nights!) Pure branding alone... Beacon wins out.
So i asked JJ at the amoeba signing today
me "jim is it live album 1st or solo album?"
JJ "I dont know good question" with that classic smirk :evil:
Quote from: rna2525 on Jan 19, 2018, 12:07 AM
So i asked JJ at the amoeba signing today
me "jim is it live album 1st or solo album?"
JJ "I dont know good question" with that classic smirk :evil:
That's kind of like when I asked Tom which show or shows would be released on Livedownloads (Nugs) next, and he said, "That's a good question. Carl would know better than me." - Tom said this right after the Carl solo show at The Basement East in Nashville last January
As for the content of this box, I'm not picky. Choose anything fellas, we know it'll be good!
I'm most excited for the SOUND! Okonokos has some of the most stellar fidelity I've ever heard on a live album. Doesn't hurt that it was mastered by the legendary Bob Ludwig. Hoping the next live album has the same fortune!
Quote from: walterfredo on Jan 18, 2018, 09:33 PM
a beacon box set make the most sense. and it sounds right.
unless they just come completely out of the blue with the long awaited T5. Just don't see that happening though.
The beacon is such a legendary venue. T5 is a fucking shithole! (but it was a helluva shithole for 5 nights!) Pure branding alone... Beacon wins out.
Quote from: APR on Jan 18, 2018, 09:01 PM
Quote from: parkervb on Jan 18, 2018, 01:52 PM
Quote from: rincon2 on Jan 18, 2018, 12:11 PM
When the new live album comes out, I will certainly buy it. I do have a question though. With all of the quality MMJ recordings for free on Archive.org, what is the general reason everyone is so excited about an official release? Is it to see what they chose to release and see if it matches up to expectations, release of versions not readily available online, or simply the tangible greatness of holding, looking at, and playing new MMJ vinyl? I mean, after all, most of the music is out there and available for free downloads.
well if it's the Beacon shows, then the question is moot really.
But, I think the band will ensure the mix meets their expectations and that it will far exceed the aud recordings that are out there (as good as many of them are). I also feel the selections they make will reflect their feelings about who they are as a band at that time and place and to me, that's also interesting.
I just got a Pearl Jam live record where the audio had been out for years (Soldier Field 1995) and it was FAR better than the decent radio rips that had been out there. It showed me how much impact professional mixing can have, esp on a live record.
Good question and answer. I like the archive recordings but don't spend much time listening to them because of the sound. I'm no audiophile, but I way prefer the 12/31/17 Sirius broadcast or some of the other radio station recordings like the Queens show from NYC last summer. So you could argue that with enough of those types of amazing soundings shows that another live album isn't really necessary. With nine shows from Mexico, three from Port Chester, a few Red Rocks and others I don't think we're hurting for great sounding shows. And I don't know how much better a properly mixed show could sound to my ears. But if it's MMJ, I want to get it and listen to it over and over.
And I agree with Parker about what the band actually selects being interesting. I love the songs, the flow, and Jim's banter on Celebration de la Ciudad Natal. The version of Dondante on that disc is one of the greatest Dondantes ever.
Im sorry but those shows you've checked off are all epic and all 100% Grade A Jacket and we love them to death but they won't sound anywhere near as alive as a second official live album. You dont get how good it can be. I feel like you kinda want it both ways when you rip on the audience recordings that are the best in the business our tapers are the greatest without doubt but then that we also DON'T need a live album? I dont get it.
Btw WE NEED ONE.
ITS BEEN 11 YEARS SINCE OKONOKOS and we all thought in 2012 or 2013 we'd be getting the second Okonokos but we waited patiently and those amazing soundboard shows kept us alive
Any Jacket fan who isnt salivating at the idea of a second official live album is either not really a big fan or has no idea how great this band can be onstage and has been the last three years.
And actually more than anything we should be clamoring for a live DVD to go with it
Quote from: walterfredo on Jan 18, 2018, 09:33 PM
a beacon box set make the most sense. and it sounds right.
unless they just come completely out of the blue with the long awaited T5. Just don't see that happening though.
The beacon is such a legendary venue. T5 is a fucking shithole! (but it was a helluva shithole for 5 nights!) Pure branding alone... Beacon wins out.
Beacon box set or best of the Beacon run is my prediction too. Why else would they have signs telling people that recording was not allowed?
Quote from: APR on Jan 19, 2018, 08:58 PM
Quote from: walterfredo on Jan 18, 2018, 09:33 PM
a beacon box set make the most sense. and it sounds right.
unless they just come completely out of the blue with the long awaited T5. Just don't see that happening though.
The beacon is such a legendary venue. T5 is a fucking shithole! (but it was a helluva shithole for 5 nights!) Pure branding alone... Beacon wins out.
Beacon box set or best of the Beacon run is my prediction too. Why else would they have signs telling people that recording was not allowed?
Best Of The Beacon would be my guess as well but man would I love a Beacon Box set or some type of bonus set being made available. I'll also 2nd Lonn's idea of a DVD being a part of the release. :thumbsup: Fingers crossed. :beer:
As for the signs at The Beacon, yeah the shows being recorded was my thought at the time too and I sure hope that was the case.
Quote from: ericm on Jan 19, 2018, 09:18 PM
Quote from: APR on Jan 19, 2018, 08:58 PM
Quote from: walterfredo on Jan 18, 2018, 09:33 PM
a beacon box set make the most sense. and it sounds right.
unless they just come completely out of the blue with the long awaited T5. Just don't see that happening though.
The beacon is such a legendary venue. T5 is a fucking shithole! (but it was a helluva shithole for 5 nights!) Pure branding alone... Beacon wins out.
Beacon box set or best of the Beacon run is my prediction too. Why else would they have signs telling people that recording was not allowed?
Best Of The Beacon would be my guess as well but man would I love a Beacon Box set or some type of bonus set being made available. I'll also 2nd Lonn's idea of a DVD being a part of the release. :thumbsup: Fingers crossed. :beer:
As for the signs at The Beacon, yeah the shows being recorded was my thought at the time too and I sure hope that was the case.
they would HAVE TO BE...
the band always records every show they play and have since at least 2008 (i'd venture to say maybe earlier) but the Beacon shows were huge, i get a feeling from the setlists that they were setting it up for a live album: let's have an opening version of Victory Dance and then going straight into Evil Urges, just these little bridges song to song and opening the shows and closing the shows with certain songs, just watch out for that when it comes to it being all put together.
If you look at OKONOKOS now, in retrospect you can see that they were tailoring the setlists exactly to what the film / live LP needed. I'm extremely shocked at how the first five song sequence on the record and the DVD, WOrdless, Beats, Gideon, OBH and I Will Sing U all were played on one of the nights, with one or two repeated the next night just to make sure but they used the takes from that night, all in one take no fucking with it from one show to the other, second by second like some live DVD editing.
It's hard to tell with OKONOKOS...such mystery, power and energy. All I can think about right now is the Beacon shows coming out with a big fat beautiful DVD box with the words OKONOKOS II: From the Beacon Theater, with a CD digipack next to it on the shelf of my favorite record store, Music 2 The Maxx here in Utah (FOR ALL BUYING THIS WHEN IT COMES OUT BUY ONLY FROM INDEPENDENT RECORD STORES..DONT FUCK AROUND) with two or three discs of live audio, mastered by Bob Ludwig, the Darth Vader of audio perfection. Even Bob Ludwig's shits sound like Steely Dan records.
EricM seriously i'm glad you agree with the visual experience being very much necessary. Sometimes, this band just MUST be seen to be believed, not just heard. I get that truly listening to these magic moments onstage is what it's all about, but my ears tune in even more hardcore when I'm watching Carl headbanging to the end of PWW or Jim doing his funny little dances and smirking at Patrick. That interplay and emotional love between the band members is such a revelation and is so interesting to me, as well as such brilliant photographers / artists like Danny Clinch, Todd Haynes, oscar winning Cameron Crowe and Sam Erickson.
Just look at the footage of RR2015 and you know more of that, ALL of that is just gonna make our lives even more spoiled and better.
SPOILED.
FUCKING.
ROTTEN.
being a Jacket fan in 2018 isn't a bad thing, NOT AT ALL....
No doubt Lonn. I was at all four and fortunate to have some incredible seats taboot. Even though I have those shows stored away forever I'm my mind's eye, I sure would like a DVD to pop in when I have company over and blow them away. :thumbsup:
I have a good friend who's on here once in a while and she has a yearly get together at her house for a bunch of friends. It's for another band that we love but every year, late night when only the hearty souls are still kicking, she pops in Okonokos, and we rock the joint late night, Jacket style! :grin:
Here's hoping we get to pop in a Jacket double feature next September! :beer:
Quote from: ericm on Jan 21, 2018, 09:15 PM
No doubt Lonn. I was at all four and fortunate to have some incredible seats taboot. Even though I have those shows stored away forever I'm my mind's eye, I sure would like a DVD to pop in when I have company over and blow them away. :thumbsup:
I have a good friend who's on here once in a while and she has a yearly get together at her house for a bunch of friends. It's for another band that we love but every year, late night when only the hearty souls are still kicking, she pops in Okonokos, and we rock the joint late night, Jacket style! :grin:
Here's hoping we get to pop in a Jacket double feature next September! :beer:
ABSOLUTELY its just like the NYe stand in my mind: i remember every goddamn moment but seeing Pat Myers' footage and having full audio (and fantastic audio) of each night makes it even better, you can just hold on to every moment cause its right there to remind you of the brilliance, as if we needed reminding.
But then again, Denver is an experience everyone can see and listen to so far, whether there or not (BEING THERE WAS THE GODDAMN TITS THREE BEST SHOWS EVER )
but The Beacon shows will garner more mystery, as the Terminal 5 run has, due to its inability to be heard mostly. The Terminal 5 run has that semi full length video from the Tennessee Fire night on youtube that's in good to average quality for a 2010 camera phone video (just shows how damn good My Morning Jacket sound live). The bastard cuts during I Just Wanted To Say, Weeks Go By Like Days among a bunch of other huge rarities. Very frustrating!!
Wonder if it will be what the band feels the best songs were from the entire Waterfall tour. Meaning not one show but songs from all different shows.
Quote from: Clarkwork on Jan 26, 2018, 09:46 AM
Wonder if it will be what the band feels the best songs were from the entire Waterfall tour. Meaning not one show but songs from all different shows.
I like where your heads at. That would be pretty neat.
Quote from: Emb1528 on Jan 26, 2018, 01:01 PM
Quote from: Clarkwork on Jan 26, 2018, 09:46 AM
Wonder if it will be what the band feels the best songs were from the entire Waterfall tour. Meaning not one show but songs from all different shows.
I like where your heads at. That would be pretty neat.
A DVD version of that would be amazing.
Hey MMJ GIVE US SOMETHING TO DROOL ABOUT LIKE A TRAILER OR A COVER OF THE LIVE LP ANYTHING
Quote from: Lonndown27 on Jan 26, 2018, 04:59 PM
Hey MMJ GIVE US SOMETHING TO DROOL ABOUT LIKE A TRAILER OR A COVER OF THE LIVE LP ANYTHING
Yes, what he said, puhleeze...
im literally thinking about this at least twice a day every day, I NEED ANOTHER OKONOKOS
fuckin hate how there's never news about this until Jim says it's coming and then it doesnt. lets blast the Jacket twitter with requests until they produce this hahah
Quote from: Lonndown27 on Feb 15, 2018, 05:46 PM
fuckin hate how there's never news about this until Jim says it's coming and then it doesnt. lets blast the Jacket twitter with requests until they produce this hahah
I get my hopes up every time i get the little notification that they've tweeted/posted in instagram and every time i am disappointed. Bust it out soon guys please!!!!
Quote from: jttouch2 on Feb 15, 2018, 08:36 PM
Quote from: Lonndown27 on Feb 15, 2018, 05:46 PM
fuckin hate how there's never news about this until Jim says it's coming and then it doesnt. lets blast the Jacket twitter with requests until they produce this hahah
I get my hopes up every time i get the little notification that they've tweeted/posted in instagram and every time i am disappointed. Bust it out soon guys please!!!!
big things rolling out after OBH
Quote from: millerjustin on Feb 16, 2018, 10:25 AM
Quote from: jttouch2 on Feb 15, 2018, 08:36 PM
Quote from: Lonndown27 on Feb 15, 2018, 05:46 PM
fuckin hate how there's never news about this until Jim says it's coming and then it doesnt. lets blast the Jacket twitter with requests until they produce this hahah
I get my hopes up every time i get the little notification that they've tweeted/posted in instagram and every time i am disappointed. Bust it out soon guys please!!!!
big things rolling out after OBH
<Insert Michael Jackson eating popcorn meme>
Jim James solo album announcement for the summer?
Quote from: millerjustin on Feb 16, 2018, 10:25 AM
Quote from: jttouch2 on Feb 15, 2018, 08:36 PM
Quote from: Lonndown27 on Feb 15, 2018, 05:46 PM
fuckin hate how there's never news about this until Jim says it's coming and then it doesnt. lets blast the Jacket twitter with requests until they produce this hahah
I get my hopes up every time i get the little notification that they've tweeted/posted in instagram and every time i am disappointed. Bust it out soon guys please!!!!
big things rolling out after OBH
To quote one.of.my favorite Jacket songs:
HOW DO YOUUUU KNOOOOWWW???
Can we task you OBH attendees the job of getting to the bottom of this?
Buy one of the dudes a drink and get some info please
need more tunes :headphones:
Quote from: gardenparty on Feb 16, 2018, 05:35 PM
Can we task you OBH attendees the job of getting to the bottom of this?
Buy one of the dudes a drink and get some info please
need more tunes :headphones:
Absolutely guys and gals if this thing is close to being released we gotta get some info on this as soon as possible. I think a Jim solo record is WAY too soon after Eternally Even and Tribute To 2 to be released . Gimme both i dont mind hahaha but i think the band will put out the live album and then in September we'll see the new Jimothy record
Quote from: Lonndown27 on Feb 16, 2018, 09:39 PM
Quote from: gardenparty on Feb 16, 2018, 05:35 PM
Can we task you OBH attendees the job of getting to the bottom of this?
Buy one of the dudes a drink and get some info please
need more tunes :headphones:
Absolutely guys and gals if this thing is close to being released we gotta get some info on this as soon as possible. I think a Jim solo record is WAY too soon after Eternally Even and Tribute To 2 to be released . Gimme both i dont mind hahaha but i think the band will put out the live album and then in September we'll see the new Jimothy record
Maybe if we're lucky they announce the live record at OBH4 and like idk maybe include something cool from the live album (physical copy of the single or something if live albums get singles lol) thatd be sweet for those lucky ones attending and also the earliest possible announcement we could get i believe
Quote from: jttouch2 on Feb 17, 2018, 01:02 AM
Quote from: Lonndown27 on Feb 16, 2018, 09:39 PM
Quote from: gardenparty on Feb 16, 2018, 05:35 PM
Can we task you OBH attendees the job of getting to the bottom of this?
Buy one of the dudes a drink and get some info please
need more tunes :headphones:
Absolutely guys and gals if this thing is close to being released we gotta get some info on this as soon as possible. I think a Jim solo record is WAY too soon after Eternally Even and Tribute To 2 to be released . Gimme both i dont mind hahaha but i think the band will put out the live album and then in September we'll see the new Jimothy record
Maybe if we're lucky they announce the live record at OBH4 and like idk maybe include something cool from the live album (physical copy of the single or something if live albums get singles lol) thatd be sweet for those lucky ones attending and also the earliest possible announcement we could get i believe
That would be sexy and yes live records do deserve singles look at Im Ready by Humble Pie or Do You Feel Like We Do by Frampton or Rock and roll All Nite from Alive or Freebird from One More From the Road , Whipping Post from At Fillmore East, Anytime from Okonokos was a sorta single, it WAS the preview video released before Okonokos came out, I remember!!!! I was eagerly anticipating it and that version of Anytime totally twisted my view of that song inside out. Little Feat's "Dixie Chicken" from Waiting For Columbus, Grateful Dead's "Wharf Rat" and "Goin Down The Road Feelin Bad" and "Me and My Uncle" from Skulls and Roses, He's Gone, Brown Eyed Women and Cumberland Blues from Europe 72. Maybe some of these aren't or weren't official singles, but they sure as fucking hell would work :cool: :cool: :cool:
Quote from: millerjustin on Feb 16, 2018, 10:25 AM
Quote from: jttouch2 on Feb 15, 2018, 08:36 PM
Quote from: Lonndown27 on Feb 15, 2018, 05:46 PM
fuckin hate how there's never news about this until Jim says it's coming and then it doesnt. lets blast the Jacket twitter with requests until they produce this hahah
I get my hopes up every time i get the little notification that they've tweeted/posted in instagram and every time i am disappointed. Bust it out soon guys please!!!!
big things rolling out after OBH
Super. Thanks for brightening our day. This is my favorite post in a while. I'm stoked......millerjustin is in the know so I'm looking forward to some March news.
Millerjustin HOW DO YOUUUUU KNOW?!??!!?? Are you the arcitect (sp) on the ceiling??
here's an idea: don't put the guys in a position where you are asking them something they may not be allowed to share. Ask them about what they've been listening to or something they've read recently, what's their favorite venue to play, shit like that.
I can't decide if i prefer the live album or the Jim solo album to come out first-live album will no doubt be more fun & exciting, but Jim solo would set up a summer tour AND would give us the opportunity to hear a couple new tunes with the louisville orchestra in april. Can't stop thinking about the prospects of either one though!!!!!
Quote from: jttouch2 on Feb 21, 2018, 02:52 PM
I can't decide if i prefer the live album or the Jim solo album to come out first-live album will no doubt be more fun & exciting, but Jim solo would set up a summer tour AND would give us the opportunity to hear a couple new tunes with the louisville orchestra in april. Can't stop thinking about the prospects of either one though!!!!!
Regarding live albums, keep in mind we *should* be getting three live My Morning Jacket albums a month or so after One Big Holiday if things are like they were with prior OBHs.
Quote from: sillyboob on Feb 21, 2018, 03:24 PM
Quote from: jttouch2 on Feb 21, 2018, 02:52 PM
I can't decide if i prefer the live album or the Jim solo album to come out first-live album will no doubt be more fun & exciting, but Jim solo would set up a summer tour AND would give us the opportunity to hear a couple new tunes with the louisville orchestra in april. Can't stop thinking about the prospects of either one though!!!!!
Regarding live albums, keep in mind we *should* be getting three live My Morning Jacket albums a month or so after One Big Holiday if things are like they were with prior OBHs.
a lot of people seem to be worried about that being the case this year though with the impending release of a true live album, it could seem like a conflict of interest for the band to release that live material. hopefully they just release it all though, i know i'd definitely be purchasing it all
Quote from: jttouch2 on Feb 21, 2018, 04:49 PM
Quote from: sillyboob on Feb 21, 2018, 03:24 PM
Quote from: jttouch2 on Feb 21, 2018, 02:52 PM
I can't decide if i prefer the live album or the Jim solo album to come out first-live album will no doubt be more fun & exciting, but Jim solo would set up a summer tour AND would give us the opportunity to hear a couple new tunes with the louisville orchestra in april. Can't stop thinking about the prospects of either one though!!!!!
Regarding live albums, keep in mind we *should* be getting three live My Morning Jacket albums a month or so after One Big Holiday if things are like they were with prior OBHs.
a lot of people seem to be worried about that being the case this year though with the impending release of a true live album, it could seem like a conflict of interest for the band to release that live material. hopefully they just release it all though, i know i'd definitely be purchasing it all
Absolutely!!! MMJ.....have my money!!!
I believe THIS will come out :
OKONOKOS II: The Beacon Odyssey
Featuring
Phone Went West
Victory Dance
Circuital
State of the Art
Picture of You
War Begun
The Dark
Spring into Off the Record from MPP (pipe dream)
Tropics
Only memories Remain
Compound Fracture
Masterplan
They Ran
Easy Morning Rebel
Evelyns Not Real
Outta My System
Evil Urges
Touch Me II
Highly Suspicious
Rollin Back
Cobra
Its about Twilight Now
Just because I Do
Etc etc and many more
And justin miller can you confirm.anything especially regarding the visual realm???
People who keep putting out wish tracklists that don't include any Okonokos songs are fooling themselves. I get the wishful thinking, MMJ coming out with a live album that doesn't include Wordless Chorus, One Big Holiday, etc. is just not in the realm of possibility.
Quote from: MOWJO8185 on Feb 23, 2018, 01:28 PM
People who keep putting out wish tracklists that don't include any Okonokos songs are fooling themselves. I get the wishful thinking, MMJ coming out with a live album that doesn't include Wordless Chorus, One Big Holiday, etc. is just not in the realm of possibility.
You're very correct I'm afraid. Hopefully the only Okonokos repeats are songs that have undergone live changes though, I.E. the Steam Sax, the extra long Dondantes, the Gideon jam, and War>IWSYS. Wordless too i guess with the "lights out" stop thing, even if thats not a big change. I just really dont want a wordless or OBH be included at the expense of an awesome Only Memories Remain jam or something like that.
Quote from: jttouch2 on Feb 23, 2018, 05:26 PM
Quote from: MOWJO8185 on Feb 23, 2018, 01:28 PM
People who keep putting out wish tracklists that don't include any Okonokos songs are fooling themselves. I get the wishful thinking, MMJ coming out with a live album that doesn't include Wordless Chorus, One Big Holiday, etc. is just not in the realm of possibility.
You're very correct I'm afraid. Hopefully the only Okonokos repeats are songs that have undergone live changes though, I.E. the Steam Sax, the extra long Dondantes, the Gideon jam, and War>IWSYS. Wordless too i guess with the "lights out" stop thing, even if thats not a big change. I just really dont want a wordless or OBH be included at the expense of an awesome Only Memories Remain jam or something like that.
You do have the OBH2 Only Memories Remain I hope. That jam was a cool groove, for a time, there by the sea.
Quote from: sillyboob on Feb 23, 2018, 05:46 PM
Quote from: jttouch2 on Feb 23, 2018, 05:26 PM
Quote from: MOWJO8185 on Feb 23, 2018, 01:28 PM
People who keep putting out wish tracklists that don't include any Okonokos songs are fooling themselves. I get the wishful thinking, MMJ coming out with a live album that doesn't include Wordless Chorus, One Big Holiday, etc. is just not in the realm of possibility.
You're very correct I'm afraid. Hopefully the only Okonokos repeats are songs that have undergone live changes though, I.E. the Steam Sax, the extra long Dondantes, the Gideon jam, and War>IWSYS. Wordless too i guess with the "lights out" stop thing, even if thats not a big change. I just really dont want a wordless or OBH be included at the expense of an awesome Only Memories Remain jam or something like that.
You do have the OBH2 Only Memories Remain I hope. That jam was a cool groove, for a time, there by the sea.
I hope the safe speculation is wrong and theres no repeats. I just simply put the tracks that HAVE to make it. I really dont understand the point of yet another Obh or Mahgeetah or Wordless ESPECIALLY at the expense of more than worthy masterpieces we all know the names of that weren't on Okonokos I. Itd be criminal. Call it wishful thinking call it naive but i call it common sense with such a ridiculous discography with only 1/4 of it discovered by the mainstream so far.
Repeats thatd not only make sense but would be alright:
Dondante
Steam Engine
And really none other come to mind. Especially at the expense of 6 or 7 off Evil Urges 5 from Circuital 4 or 5 from Waterfall then State of the Art Carried away potentially. As long as say 18 of 25 songs arent from Okonokos ill be more than pleased but lets remember how gigantic and beautiful their discography is and hope they think the same
I really really hope OBH4 is the live album or that we get both the live album and obh4 downloads
edit: crazy thought-will we get this for a record store day release!?!?!?! its coming up and that would be totally wicked and much sooner than I anticipated!!!
Quote from: jttouch2 on Mar 03, 2018, 10:42 PM
I really really hope OBH4 is the live album or that we get both the live album and obh4 downloads
edit: crazy thought-will we get this for a record store day release!?!?!?! its coming up and that would be totally wicked and much sooner than I anticipated!!!
Well Jim is on record saying the new live album is already done so it's not gonna be OBH 4, but I'm with you on hoping they'll be available for download.
if they release the OBH4 recordings, can we lobby for the band to release the b-sides/covers from T5?
Quote from: subinai on Mar 06, 2018, 09:54 AM
if they release the OBH4 recordings, can we lobby for the band to release the b-sides/covers from T5?
That would be fantastic but we're gonna have MORE THAN ENOUGH to sift through for the next year or more. I've listened to the RR2015 show but haven't studied it as i have other shows and i need to. I did get the pay per view live stream that night though. Even RR2016 hasn't been discovered yet completely
Shows the band has done recently that have or will be released in the last/ next year:
RR2016 Night I 2 hours and 55 minutes
RR2016 NIght II 3 hours
Denver 2017 Night I 2 hours and 40 minutes
Denver 2017 Night II 2 hours and 35 minutes
Denver 2017 Night III NYE 2 hours and 48 minutes
OBH4 Night I 3 hours
OBH4 Night II 3 hours and 5 minutes
OBH4 Night III 3 hours and 15 minutes
Forest Hills 2017 2 hours and 25 minutes
MPP2017 2 hours and 20 minutes
Cincy 2017 2 hours and 30 minutes
Thats 11 full shows we've got in full footage, audio etc. Well documented and represented shows.
Then theres the Beacon 2015 shows that'll most likely make up the live album.
That's an incredible list from November 2015 to now. This touring cycle for Waterfall 2015-March 2018 may go down as potentially the greatest touring cycle of their career easily challenging the magnificent megalodon that was the 2011-2012 Circuital cycle which i had always thought was an apex they'd never get back to. And here they are.
As sad as i am to have missed their 2007 Depot show, i feel very privileged to haveseen them 5 times and 4 of them from 2015 to 2017 and once in 2012. Feelsgood when i look at my show list compared to others. Can you say Jacket show list size insecurity??? :cool:
I'm gonna roll the dice and say, Brooklyn Bowl/Las Vegas/2015
Holy Shit Yes! Somebody knows what the $$$$$$$
Quote from: KingCobra on Apr 12, 2018, 08:46 PM
I'm gonna roll the dice and say, Brooklyn Bowl/Las Vegas/2015
Really??? Where does this guess come from?? Very cool two night stand only two days after i saw them my second time. Just curious
This is getting pretty stupid. What will be released first, MMJ live album or Trump's tax returns?
Quote from: walterfredo on Apr 16, 2018, 10:50 PM
This is getting pretty stupid. What will be released first, MMJ live album or Trump's tax returns?
Now that's funny :grin: :grin: :grin: :beer:
Quote from: walterfredo on Apr 16, 2018, 10:50 PM
This is getting pretty stupid. What will be released first, MMJ live album or Trump's tax returns?
Quote from: rkwedge on Apr 16, 2018, 11:24 PM
Quote from: walterfredo on Apr 16, 2018, 10:50 PM
This is getting pretty stupid. What will be released first, MMJ live album or Trump's tax returns?
Now that's funny :grin: :grin: :grin: :beer:
AAHAHHAHAHAH i know MMJ boyz this is getting fucking crazy!! release this already!
hey i have an idea: over the next few days, if you have a moment, when you have a moment, send the band a twitter message and say Where the fuck is the live album / DVD guys??? WHERE???? I think we ALL need ths....if we can make it happen faster by bugging the christ outta them, let's do it!!!!!
BUGCHRIST
Jim James becomes a vortex and flies into my living room, now, in white dancing shoes, spinning around and saying "we are a part of the rhythm nation" and his eyes are spinning circles of jellyfish art....he wields a scepter, white with a black and tan marble top. He grins a fancy grin, holding out the cover to OKONOKOS II. It's got a psychedelic band photo, ala Okonokos, but to the next level. I can see some of the tracklisting from here , but Jim isn't giving anything away. He spins again, his back now to me. I carefully lift myself out of the chair and the frozen / stoned way I deal with Jim James appearing in my personal life, then creep up to Jim, silently, tip toeing, in case I can get a sneak peak of OKONOKOS II.
I can only study the back head of Jim and his labrynthian pomp of barracuda hair, his long beard seen slighlty from the side. I go to put my arm around the dood and offer the Willy Wonka of Rock and Roll a shot or a joint.
That is when he turns around, eyes turned yellow and animalistic...crazy eyes...his beard and long hair now given way to a woven brown mane all over his face and hands: THE JIMWOLF. I shriek, running for the door, but the door is so locked by time and all authority that the more I shake at it, the more the door knob elongates, like Pinnochio's nose right before me...I can feel Jim doing the slinky dance he does during Cobra as he growls and comes up from behind me and rips my face into two, blood flying from all orifices and plateaus of bodily collapse.
Jim James owns my soul.
Quote from: Lonndown27 on Apr 23, 2018, 05:28 PM
Quote from: walterfredo on Apr 16, 2018, 10:50 PM
This is getting pretty stupid. What will be released first, MMJ live album or Trump's tax returns?
Quote from: rkwedge on Apr 16, 2018, 11:24 PM
Quote from: walterfredo on Apr 16, 2018, 10:50 PM
This is getting pretty stupid. What will be released first, MMJ live album or Trump's tax returns?
Now that's funny :grin: :grin: :grin: :beer:
AAHAHHAHAHAH i know MMJ boyz this is getting fucking crazy!! release this already!
hey i have an idea: over the next few days, if you have a moment, when you have a moment, send the band a twitter message and say Where the fuck is the live album / DVD guys??? WHERE???? I think we ALL need ths....if we can make it happen faster by bugging the christ outta them, let's do it!!!!!
BUGCHRIST
Jim James becomes a vortex and flies into my living room, now, in white dancing shoes, spinning around and saying "we are a part of the rhythm nation" and his eyes are spinning circles of jellyfish art....he wields a scepter, white with a black and tan marble top. He grins a fancy grin, holding out the cover to OKONOKOS II. It's got a psychedelic band photo, ala Okonokos, but to the next level. I can see some of the tracklisting from here , but Jim isn't giving anything away. He spins again, his back now to me. I carefully lift myself out of the chair and the frozen / stoned way I deal with Jim James appearing in my personal life, then creep up to Jim, silently, tip toeing, in case I can get a sneak peak of OKONOKOS II.
I can only study the back head of Jim and his labrynthian pomp of barracuda hair, his long beard seen slighlty from the side. I go to put my arm around the dood and offer the Willy Wonka of Rock and Roll a shot or a joint.
That is when he turns around, eyes turned yellow and animalistic...crazy eyes...his beard and long hair now given way to a woven brown mane all over his face and hands: THE JIMWOLF. I shriek, running for the door, but the door is so locked by time and all authority that the more I shake at it, the more the door knob elongates, like Pinnochio's nose right before me...I can feel Jim doing the slinky dance he does during Cobra as he growls and comes up from behind me and rips my face into two, blood flying from all orifices and plateaus of bodily collapse.
Jim James owns my soul.
I'll have what Lonndown27's having :thumbsup: