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Title: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: sillyboob on May 03, 2017, 10:14 AM
So I'm starting this thread based on this comment from dss on the 1st Bank Center (Colorado) NYE Run Rumor thread - I noticed that thread kinda got overtaken by OBH4 talk, so let's have that conversation here instead.

Here's dss' comment:
Quote from: dss on May 03, 2017, 09:51 AM
Really hoping they don't move OBH to the Barcelo. It's gigantic (I saw the inaugural phish fest there). The food is just awful, and the "special" experience about being in a buyout style environment does not translate since there are thousands of people having vacations, weddings, etc... The OBH crew will just be another large group at the place. Also, the stage was in a proper "venue" so you needed to actually get scanned into the venue and (depending on your building) it was a significant distance to go to/from to your room. Just nowhere close to being in the concert courtyard at Riviera Maya. Plus, at least for other events, the capacity was closer to 7k for the show, which just sucked compared to the roughly 2k for OBH's so far.

That all being said, I did some poking around and I don't see any obvious holds at the Hard Rock in the DR, nor does the Barcelo have "inflated rates" over those dates. But the Hard Rock Riviera Maya does have five events clearly being held. 3 Back to Back events in late Jan (similar to Zac Brown->OBH->Avetts) from last year, but moved up a few days so there is no event over the Super Bowl weekend. And another two events in March, one of which would be Panic in La Playa). Cloup9 did four events at the Riviera Maya last year, so unless they are adding two new events AND moving OBH to Barcelo, there is a shot we might be heading back to the Riviera Maya. Coming from the West coast, I really hope that is true. The DR sucks to get to from the West Coast and I think many of us let Cloud9 hear that in our feedback forms. Whatever and wherever it is, I just hope it is actually happening.

As for announcement timing, last year, they did a "save the date" in March (likely due to no OBH in 2016 and increased competition from phish and CID Productions who also announced early) with the actual announcement on 5/24. OBH 2 was announced the second week of June with no "save the date" so hopefully we will hear something in the next couple of weeks.

I agree with a couple of things in his post - namely that the Barcelo resort is huge and not ideal for a OBH type event (in my opinion).  Having to ride busses from one end of the resort to the other is not my idea of fun.  Also, coming from the West Coast as well, I really hope OBH isn't moved to the Dominican Republic.  That is a truly long day of travel from the left coast, especially compared with the very centrally located Rivieria Maya.

So here's to hoping we hear something about OBH4 soon.  And I'm hoping to see y'all down at the Hard Rock RM concert pavilion sometime late January 2018!!
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: ditty on May 03, 2017, 01:51 PM
Yes, after originally thinking I wanted a different venue and or destination after OBH 1, I changed my thought after OBH 2.   The Hard Rock has the system down and you can find good food, in my opinion.  Many people are starting to get familiar with the Cancun / Tulum area as well.  This is perfect for those looking to stay extra days and unwind in a relaxing atmosphere without having to go far. 
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: rumdiesel on May 03, 2017, 02:51 PM
The intimacy of these shows and the environment created by the group having full takeover of the resort is what makes OBH really special.   If the Barcelo rumors are true, it almost makes it a non-starter for us.  I'd hate to miss out, but it just wouldn't be the same and probably not worth it.
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: sillyboob on May 03, 2017, 03:28 PM
Quote from: rumdiesel on May 03, 2017, 02:51 PM
The intimacy of these shows and the environment created by the group having full takeover of the resort is what makes OBH really special.   If the Barcelo rumors are true, it almost makes it a non-starter for us.  I'd hate to miss out, but it just wouldn't be the same and probably not worth it.

For me, Barcelo and the DR puts me in the same boat, very regrettably.  Especially the flying time from the West Coast.

At this point, I'm guessing the details for the next OBH, and probably for the next 3 OBHs, are already signed, sealed & delivered (being that it's been posted that the original run of OBHs were a 3 year contract).

Now it's just a waiting game.
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: millerjustin on May 04, 2017, 08:57 AM
Quote from: sillyboob on May 03, 2017, 10:14 AM
So I'm starting this thread based on this comment from dss on the 1st Bank Center (Colorado) NYE Run Rumor thread - I noticed that thread kinda got overtaken by OBH4 talk, so let's have that conversation here instead.

Here's dss' comment:
Quote from: dss on May 03, 2017, 09:51 AM
Really hoping they don't move OBH to the Barcelo. It's gigantic (I saw the inaugural phish fest there). The food is just awful, and the "special" experience about being in a buyout style environment does not translate since there are thousands of people having vacations, weddings, etc... The OBH crew will just be another large group at the place. Also, the stage was in a proper "venue" so you needed to actually get scanned into the venue and (depending on your building) it was a significant distance to go to/from to your room. Just nowhere close to being in the concert courtyard at Riviera Maya. Plus, at least for other events, the capacity was closer to 7k for the show, which just sucked compared to the roughly 2k for OBH's so far.

That all being said, I did some poking around and I don't see any obvious holds at the Hard Rock in the DR, nor does the Barcelo have "inflated rates" over those dates. But the Hard Rock Riviera Maya does have five events clearly being held. 3 Back to Back events in late Jan (similar to Zac Brown->OBH->Avetts) from last year, but moved up a few days so there is no event over the Super Bowl weekend. And another two events in March, one of which would be Panic in La Playa). Cloup9 did four events at the Riviera Maya last year, so unless they are adding two new events AND moving OBH to Barcelo, there is a shot we might be heading back to the Riviera Maya. Coming from the West coast, I really hope that is true. The DR sucks to get to from the West Coast and I think many of us let Cloud9 hear that in our feedback forms. Whatever and wherever it is, I just hope it is actually happening.

As for announcement timing, last year, they did a "save the date" in March (likely due to no OBH in 2016 and increased competition from phish and CID Productions who also announced early) with the actual announcement on 5/24. OBH 2 was announced the second week of June with no "save the date" so hopefully we will hear something in the next couple of weeks.

I agree with a couple of things in his post - namely that the Barcelo resort is huge and not ideal for a OBH type event (in my opinion).  Having to ride busses from one end of the resort to the other is not my idea of fun.  Also, coming from the West Coast as well, I really hope OBH isn't moved to the Dominican Republic.  That is a truly long day of travel from the left coast, especially compared with the very centrally located Rivieria Maya.

So here's to hoping we hear something about OBH4 soon.  And I'm hoping to see y'all down at the Hard Rock RM concert pavilion sometime late January 2018!!

I'm starting to align with this thinking - I've been to all 3 OBH events and part of me wants a change just for the sake of recapturing the "newness" and excitement of OBH1, which was literally electric feeling.  However, the other options aren't that great and I really want to keep this thing at the approx. 3,000 person cap it's at right now.  (1,700 ppl first year undersold, 2,500 at OBH2 sold out and I'm guessing about 3,000 at OBH3 with triple rooms added)
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: APR on May 04, 2017, 10:04 AM
I knew the first year didn't sell out and the other years did, but it didn't realize it was that far away from a sell out in year 1.  It really feel that much more crowded in year two with the additional 800 people.   So if they can sneak in another 500 people and it still won't feel too packed (the resort, restaurants, and shows), then that would make a lot of people happy. 

I heard about the Barceló event from my friend who went to Phish.  That concept is not nearly as appealing to me either.  I could get behind the newness of the DR if it's all MMJ people and not too huge, which I don't think it can be since MMJ isn't as huge as Phish.
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: slappymoe on May 04, 2017, 03:11 PM
the cloud 9 survey asked where we'd like to see the next OBH. i simply said, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."  change solely for the sake of change makes no sense.

i've been to OBH2 and 3, and i can't imagine a more perfect place than the HRHRM.  maybe there are places that would be just as good, but they'd be hard-pressed to find anything better, top to bottom.
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: sillyboob on May 04, 2017, 06:26 PM
Quote from: slappymoe on May 04, 2017, 03:11 PM
the cloud 9 survey asked where we'd like to see the next OBH. i simply said, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."  change solely for the sake of change makes no sense.

i've been to OBH2 and 3, and i can't imagine a more perfect place than the HRHRM.  maybe there are places that would be just as good, but they'd be hard-pressed to find anything better, top to bottom.

I agree 100% with this post.
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: Lonndown27 on May 05, 2017, 06:41 PM
Quote from: sillyboob on May 04, 2017, 06:26 PM
Quote from: slappymoe on May 04, 2017, 03:11 PM
the cloud 9 survey asked where we'd like to see the next OBH. i simply said, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."  change solely for the sake of change makes no sense.

i've been to OBH2 and 3, and i can't imagine a more perfect place than the HRHRM.  maybe there are places that would be just as good, but they'd be hard-pressed to find anything better, top to bottom.

I agree 100% with this post.

me too, as I'd like my first OBH to be somewhere that other Jacket fans have been to before and can recommend the best places to eat, things to do, time to do them etc.
Also, can anything beat three MMJ 2 hour + shows in an intimate setting in a courtyard, 20 seconds away from your rooms???
Title: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: teej on May 05, 2017, 08:55 PM
Quote

Also, can anything beat three MMJ 2 hour + shows in an intimate setting in a courtyard, 20 seconds away from your rooms???

Nope


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Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: MMJ612 on May 08, 2017, 10:08 PM
The Hard Rock Riveria Maya calendar is blocked out for five 4 night chunks in Jan/Feb/March.  This very likely means 4-5 music festivals at HRRM.  I have a hard time believing OBH4 will not be one of these festivals. 

The official One Big Holiday Facebook and Twitter account is getting more active, which means we will likely get an announcement in the next 3-4 weeks.   :cool:
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: millerjustin on May 15, 2017, 12:02 PM
sadly, I'm starting to hear rumblings of no OBH4 until 2019.....
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: teej on May 15, 2017, 12:17 PM
Quote from: millerjustin on May 15, 2017, 12:02 PM
sadly, I'm starting to hear rumblings of no OBH4 until 2019.....
Nooooooooo. Can you share any more info?
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: millerjustin on May 15, 2017, 12:49 PM
Quote from: teej on May 15, 2017, 12:17 PM
Quote from: millerjustin on May 15, 2017, 12:02 PM
sadly, I'm starting to hear rumblings of no OBH4 until 2019.....
Nooooooooo. Can you share any more info?

just general rumblings and logistical speculation given the NYE run that's about to be announced - seems unlikely that they would try to promote and sell both events at the same time.  But who knows?  just take my money!!
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: MMJ612 on May 15, 2017, 02:45 PM
Quote from: millerjustin on May 15, 2017, 12:02 PM
sadly, I'm starting to hear rumblings of no OBH4 until 2019.....

:(
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: parkervb on May 15, 2017, 04:16 PM
Quote from: millerjustin on May 15, 2017, 12:49 PM
Quote from: teej on May 15, 2017, 12:17 PM
Quote from: millerjustin on May 15, 2017, 12:02 PM
sadly, I'm starting to hear rumblings of no OBH4 until 2019.....
Nooooooooo. Can you share any more info?

just general rumblings and logistical speculation given the NYE run that's about to be announced - seems unlikely that they would try to promote and sell both events at the same time.  But who knows?  just take my money!!

and it's not terrible long term strategy to skip a year now and then. I mean, they completely sold it out after taking a year off after not selling it out the first two years right?
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: MMJTX on May 15, 2017, 04:39 PM
i wouldn't mind them switching off between NYE 3night runs and OBH every year. For me personally it'd be hard to swing both within 2 months of each other.
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: walterfredo on May 15, 2017, 04:52 PM
Quote from: parkervb on May 15, 2017, 04:16 PM
Quote from: millerjustin on May 15, 2017, 12:49 PM
Quote from: teej on May 15, 2017, 12:17 PM
Quote from: millerjustin on May 15, 2017, 12:02 PM
sadly, I'm starting to hear rumblings of no OBH4 until 2019.....
Nooooooooo. Can you share any more info?

just general rumblings and logistical speculation given the NYE run that's about to be announced - seems unlikely that they would try to promote and sell both events at the same time.  But who knows?  just take my money!!

and it's not terrible long term strategy to skip a year now and then. I mean, they completely sold it out after taking a year off after not selling it out the first two years right?

I could be wrong, but I think OBH2 and OBH3 were both sold out. OBH1 was not.
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: parkervb on May 16, 2017, 02:05 PM
Quote from: walterfredo on May 15, 2017, 04:52 PM
Quote from: parkervb on May 15, 2017, 04:16 PM
Quote from: millerjustin on May 15, 2017, 12:49 PM
Quote from: teej on May 15, 2017, 12:17 PM
Quote from: millerjustin on May 15, 2017, 12:02 PM
sadly, I'm starting to hear rumblings of no OBH4 until 2019.....
Nooooooooo. Can you share any more info?

just general rumblings and logistical speculation given the NYE run that's about to be announced - seems unlikely that they would try to promote and sell both events at the same time.  But who knows?  just take my money!!

and it's not terrible long term strategy to skip a year now and then. I mean, they completely sold it out after taking a year off after not selling it out the first two years right?

I could be wrong, but I think OBH2 and OBH3 were both sold out. OBH1 was not.

yea, i had it mixed up in that OBH2 did sell out but had lower capacity than OBH3.  Still think it's a viable long term strategy to take a year off now and then to not make it so predictable that people go "I can just go next year when they have it again"

I haven't been yet, but hope to make it once the kids are old enough to stay with someone else for a week or old enough to travel with to a resort (got a 2 month old and a 2 year old). 
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: Lonndown27 on May 16, 2017, 07:18 PM
Quote from: parkervb on May 16, 2017, 02:05 PM
Quote from: walterfredo on May 15, 2017, 04:52 PM
Quote from: parkervb on May 15, 2017, 04:16 PM
Quote from: millerjustin on May 15, 2017, 12:49 PM
Quote from: teej on May 15, 2017, 12:17 PM
Quote from: millerjustin on May 15, 2017, 12:02 PM
sadly, I'm starting to hear rumblings of no OBH4 until 2019.....
Nooooooooo. Can you share any more info?

just general rumblings and logistical speculation given the NYE run that's about to be announced - seems unlikely that they would try to promote and sell both events at the same time.  But who knows?  just take my money!!

and it's not terrible long term strategy to skip a year now and then. I mean, they completely sold it out after taking a year off after not selling it out the first two years right?

I could be wrong, but I think OBH2 and OBH3 were both sold out. OBH1 was not.

yea, i had it mixed up in that OBH2 did sell out but had lower capacity than OBH3.  Still think it's a viable long term strategy to take a year off now and then to not make it so predictable that people go "I can just go next year when they have it again"

I haven't been yet, but hope to make it once the kids are old enough to stay with someone else for a week or old enough to travel with to a resort (got a 2 month old and a 2 year old). 

i sympathize with you Parkervb, i haven't been yet either :( you seem to be the biggest fan on here who HASN'T been to an OBH.

Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: parkervb on May 18, 2017, 10:06 AM
idk about that, but I've been lucky to be at some seminal shows in last 5 yrs. I'll make it to OBH soon enough and it will be glorious and hopefully a lil weird.
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: rkwedge on May 18, 2017, 10:24 AM
Quote from: parkervb on May 18, 2017, 10:06 AM
idk about that, but I've been lucky to be at some seminal shows in last 5 yrs. I'll make it to OBH soon enough and it will be glorious and hopefully a lil weird.
HaHa, yes definitely a little weird with 2500+ a "little weird" friends. You'll love it!
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: millerjustin on May 18, 2017, 12:11 PM
Quote from: rkwedge on May 18, 2017, 10:24 AM
Quote from: parkervb on May 18, 2017, 10:06 AM
idk about that, but I've been lucky to be at some seminal shows in last 5 yrs. I'll make it to OBH soon enough and it will be glorious and hopefully a lil weird.
HaHa, yes definitely a little weird with 2500+ a "little weird" friends. You'll love it!

a LOT weird
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: 1karen1 on May 22, 2017, 12:24 PM
Quote from: parkervb on May 16, 2017, 02:05 PM
Quote from: walterfredo on May 15, 2017, 04:52 PM
Quote from: parkervb on May 15, 2017, 04:16 PM
Quote from: millerjustin on May 15, 2017, 12:49 PM
Quote from: teej on May 15, 2017, 12:17 PM
Quote from: millerjustin on May 15, 2017, 12:02 PM
sadly, I'm starting to hear rumblings of no OBH4 until 2019.....
Nooooooooo. Can you share any more info?

just general rumblings and logistical speculation given the NYE run that's about to be announced - seems unlikely that they would try to promote and sell both events at the same time.  But who knows?  just take my money!!

and it's not terrible long term strategy to skip a year now and then. I mean, they completely sold it out after taking a year off after not selling it out the first two years right?

I could be wrong, but I think OBH2 and OBH3 were both sold out. OBH1 was not.

yea, i had it mixed up in that OBH2 did sell out but had lower capacity than OBH3.  Still think it's a viable long term strategy to take a year off now and then to not make it so predictable that people go "I can just go next year when they have it again"

I haven't been yet, but hope to make it once the kids are old enough to stay with someone else for a week or old enough to travel with to a resort (got a 2 month old and a 2 year old).


I had my 3 month old with me this year.
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: sillyboob on May 24, 2017, 10:24 AM
Somebody on the Facebook page posted that OBH3 was announced on May 24th last year.  Here's to hoping we hear something, preferably good news!
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: rkwedge on May 24, 2017, 12:25 PM
Quote from: sillyboob on May 24, 2017, 10:24 AM
Somebody on the Facebook page posted that OBH3 was announced on May 24th last year.  Here's to hoping we hear something, preferably good news!
Man I hope so, the wait is excruciating, especially for us on the left coast who have nothing coming up from the boys. At this point news on Denver for NYE or OBH4 would sure be nice to hear. Better yet BOTH
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: APR on May 24, 2017, 01:08 PM
Quote from: rkwedge on May 24, 2017, 12:25 PM
Quote from: sillyboob on May 24, 2017, 10:24 AM
Somebody on the Facebook page posted that OBH3 was announced on May 24th last year.  Here's to hoping we hear something, preferably good news!
Man I hope so, the wait is excruciating, especially for us on the left coast who have nothing coming up from the boys. At this point news on Denver for NYE or OBH4 would sure be nice to hear. Better yet BOTH

I'm pretty sure OBH1 and 2 were announced in June.  And June is right around the corner.  They sent out a very early save the date for OBH3.
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: millerjustin on May 24, 2017, 02:37 PM
Quote from: APR on May 24, 2017, 01:08 PM
Quote from: rkwedge on May 24, 2017, 12:25 PM
Quote from: sillyboob on May 24, 2017, 10:24 AM
Somebody on the Facebook page posted that OBH3 was announced on May 24th last year.  Here's to hoping we hear something, preferably good news!
Man I hope so, the wait is excruciating, especially for us on the left coast who have nothing coming up from the boys. At this point news on Denver for NYE or OBH4 would sure be nice to hear. Better yet BOTH

I'm pretty sure OBH1 and 2 were announced in June.  And June is right around the corner.  They sent out a very early save the date for OBH3.

OBH3 was announced 5/24/16 (today is anniversary of that day....)

still curious how they will time and coordinate announcements for NYE and OBH4 (if it's happening in 2018)
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: Woldie on Jun 05, 2017, 12:26 PM
Friday is the anniversary of the "No OBH2016" announcement.
:shocked:
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: slappymoe on Jun 05, 2017, 01:02 PM
Quote from: Woldie on Jun 05, 2017, 12:26 PM
Friday is the anniversary of the "No OBH2016" announcement.
:shocked:

mixed feelings.......best vacation ever, and I'd find a way to go every year if they hold it every year, but every other year is a lot more affordable for this working stiff. my car is due for some major maintenance, but I'm holding off on that until I find out if i'll need a couple thousand for OBH4. questionable priorities, I know.:tongue:

just give us the word.  if they already know they're not doing it in 2018, I can't see any reason why they wouldn't let us know.
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: teej on Jun 05, 2017, 01:41 PM
The Hard Rock Riviera Maya has five different four-day blocks that are unavailable for booking right now:

January 21-24;
January 26-29;
January 31-Feb. 3;
Feb 11-Feb 14; and
Feb 16-Feb 19.

Last year, I believe Cloud 9 did four different events at HRRM:

Zac Brown Band;
One Big Holiday;
Avett Bros at the Beach; and
Widespread Panic.

I find it very hard to believe that OBH is not happening in 2018.
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: sillyboob on Jun 05, 2017, 03:49 PM
Quote from: teej on Jun 05, 2017, 01:41 PM
The Hard Rock Riviera Maya has five different four-day blocks that are unavailable for booking right now:

January 21-24;
January 26-29;
January 31-Feb. 3;
Feb 11-Feb 14; and
Feb 16-Feb 19.

Last year, I believe Cloud 9 did four different events at HRRM:

Zac Brown Band;
One Big Holiday;
Avett Bros at the Beach; and
Widespread Panic.

I find it very hard to believe that OBH is not happening in 2018.

This is some good detective work. 
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: millerjustin on Jun 05, 2017, 03:53 PM
Quote from: sillyboob on Jun 05, 2017, 03:49 PM
Quote from: teej on Jun 05, 2017, 01:41 PM
The Hard Rock Riviera Maya has five different four-day blocks that are unavailable for booking right now:

January 21-24;
January 26-29;
January 31-Feb. 3;
Feb 11-Feb 14; and
Feb 16-Feb 19.

Last year, I believe Cloud 9 did four different events at HRRM:

Zac Brown Band;
One Big Holiday;
Avett Bros at the Beach; and
Widespread Panic.

I find it very hard to believe that OBH is not happening in 2018.

This is some good detective work. 

they've had those blocks up for a couple months - I'm more focused on May 24th being the latest announcement for prior years with June 9 being the no-go announcement for 2016 - it seems we are drifting toward the latter unless C9 has pushed off announcement process (or some other delay is gating this for some reason)
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: teej on Jun 05, 2017, 04:14 PM
I'd be curious to know if the other C9 events at HRRM had been announced by the time it was confirmed that OBH was a no-go for 2016. No announcements have been made by C9 for any events at HRRM in 2018 yet despite the blocks, so it's not just OBH that is "late" to be announced (or not).
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: sillyboob on Jun 05, 2017, 05:46 PM
Quote from: millerjustin on Jun 05, 2017, 03:53 PM
Quote from: sillyboob on Jun 05, 2017, 03:49 PM
Quote from: teej on Jun 05, 2017, 01:41 PM
The Hard Rock Riviera Maya has five different four-day blocks that are unavailable for booking right now:

January 21-24;
January 26-29;
January 31-Feb. 3;
Feb 11-Feb 14; and
Feb 16-Feb 19.

Last year, I believe Cloud 9 did four different events at HRRM:

Zac Brown Band;
One Big Holiday;
Avett Bros at the Beach; and
Widespread Panic.

I find it very hard to believe that OBH is not happening in 2018.

This is some good detective work. 

they've had those blocks up for a couple months - I'm more focused on May 24th being the latest announcement for prior years with June 9 being the no-go announcement for 2016 - it seems we are drifting toward the latter unless C9 has pushed off announcement process (or some other delay is gating this for some reason)

Gaahh!!  More detective work, piecing together the dates, the announcements.  The stress of this all!!!

And teej makes another good point!
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: dss on Jun 05, 2017, 06:18 PM
I do wonder how much wanting to sell through summer touring impacts (plus no phish event to compete with so far this year) is prompting them to hold off on announcements in general (for all the Cloud9 events).

None of the "Jan/Feb" events have been announced yet so in spite of some of the ominous reports here that NYE in Denver is supplanting OBH, i'm holding out hope that this isn't a zero sum equation and we'll still be in Mexico come Jan/Feb next year.

I also would imagine that those 5 blocks/windows of rooms on hold would need to be released really really soon by Cloud9 if they are just holds while they determine/confirm if an event is actually happening or not.
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: millerjustin on Jun 06, 2017, 08:57 AM
Quote from: dss on Jun 05, 2017, 06:18 PM
I do wonder how much wanting to sell through summer touring impacts (plus no phish event to compete with so far this year) is prompting them to hold off on announcements in general (for all the Cloud9 events).

None of the "Jan/Feb" events have been announced yet so in spite of some of the ominous reports here that NYE in Denver is supplanting OBH, i'm holding out hope that this isn't a zero sum equation and we'll still be in Mexico come Jan/Feb next year.

I also would imagine that those 5 blocks/windows of rooms on hold would need to be released really really soon by Cloud9 if they are just holds while they determine/confirm if an event is actually happening or not.

all good points dss - this guessing game is exhausting!  for now, I have a hold on a hotel room next to the 1st bank center (Aloft) just in case and at the same time bracing myself for an OBH deposit later this month (just in case!)
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: Woldie on Jun 08, 2017, 12:13 PM
The Avett Bros just announced their return to the Riviera Maya (with an impressive lineup).  They have claimed the Super Bowl slot for 2018.   
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: parkervb on Jun 08, 2017, 12:24 PM
Quote from: Woldie on Jun 08, 2017, 12:13 PM
The Avett Bros just announced their return to the Riviera Maya (with an impressive lineup).  They have claimed the Super Bowl slot for 2018.   

probably first domino to fall so to speak in finding out soon if OBH4 is happening
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: APR on Jun 08, 2017, 08:55 PM
Quote from: parkervb on Jun 08, 2017, 12:24 PM
Quote from: Woldie on Jun 08, 2017, 12:13 PM
The Avett Bros just announced their return to the Riviera Maya (with an impressive lineup).  They have claimed the Super Bowl slot for 2018.   

probably first domino to fall so to speak in finding out soon if OBH4 is happening

They're going to be awfully busy if they announce one per week for the next few weeks.  I wouldn't be surprised if they space them out.  And I think it's possible MMJ could blast us with a bunch of news all at once..... NYE run, OBH happening or not, fan club details/changes.
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: parkervb on Jun 09, 2017, 09:38 AM
Quote from: APR on Jun 08, 2017, 08:55 PM
Quote from: parkervb on Jun 08, 2017, 12:24 PM
Quote from: Woldie on Jun 08, 2017, 12:13 PM
The Avett Bros just announced their return to the Riviera Maya (with an impressive lineup).  They have claimed the Super Bowl slot for 2018.   

probably first domino to fall so to speak in finding out soon if OBH4 is happening

They're going to be awfully busy if they announce one per week for the next few weeks.  I wouldn't be surprised if they space them out.  And I think it's possible MMJ could blast us with a bunch of news all at once..... NYE run, OBH happening or not, fan club details/changes.

totally agree, but at least announcements are starting is what I meant
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: sillyboob on Jun 11, 2017, 07:28 PM
Two updates to post here, based on Facebook and Twitter posts, so take them with a grain of salt.

From Facebook, Jason Lawerence posted to the Jacket Fan Club page that he ran into a member of PHJB at Bonnaroo and asked him about OBH.  Said PHJB member said OBH4 is happening in the Dominican Republic next year.

And from Twitter, Jeff Clark posted to Jacket, JackOBH, Bo, Carl, Jim and Patrick asking: OBH4 in 2018?? The fanbase needs to prepare : ).  Patrick responds: "Never stop holding out hope. Hope is the little twinkle in a child's eye on Christmas morning. Hope is the feeling that keeps us going." And Bo responded: "I can not speak about classified information in an on going investigation in a public forum."  Things that make you say hmmmmm.....

And, also from Facebook, there apparently 2 four night blocks of rooms at the Hard Rock in the DR.  Feb 24 - 27 & Mar 2 - 5.

So now you know. 
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: Bulldog on Jun 11, 2017, 07:58 PM
The waits killing me, that said I know I'm in the minority, but I would LUV to hit the Dominican.

Thanks for the update Silly
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: millerjustin on Jun 12, 2017, 09:55 AM
yeah the waiting is killing us!  FYI OBH1 was announced on June 11, 2013 (a Tuesday), so I'm kinda betting we will see something tomorrow.

Given the pending NYE announcement, I'd be really surprised if they announce OBH4 at all, much less a more expensive option in the DR, but who knows?  Maybe there's a "Mega" fest at the DR with MMJ appearing as co-headliner?  Otherwise, I'm not sure they would break away from C9's bundle of fests unless there's a very good reason to do so?  Assuming CID is holding the DR blocks and organizing a monster fest, maybe it makes sense for MMJ to take a year off and avoid hassle and financial risk and just take a guaranteed payday in DR so they can have a little hay in the barn prior to album (hopefully) dropping in April/May?
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: Clarkwork on Jun 12, 2017, 10:08 AM
I was losing hope, but now I think it will be at the DR and just a bit of a later date, especially from the twitter responses.

I'm sure the guys are dying to make announcements on everything, the fact they haven't may mean bigger stuff in the works.
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: sillyboob on Jun 12, 2017, 11:08 AM
Quote from: millerjustin on Jun 12, 2017, 09:55 AM
yeah the waiting is killing us!  FYI OBH1 was announced on June 11, 2013 (a Tuesday), so I'm kinda betting we will see something tomorrow.

Given the pending NYE announcement, I'd be really surprised if they announce OBH4 at all, much less a more expensive option in the DR, but who knows?  Maybe there's a "Mega" fest at the DR with MMJ appearing as co-headliner?  Otherwise, I'm not sure they would break away from C9's bundle of fests unless there's a very good reason to do so?  Assuming CID is holding the DR blocks and organizing a monster fest, maybe it makes sense for MMJ to take a year off and avoid hassle and financial risk and just take a guaranteed payday in DR so they can have a little hay in the barn prior to album (hopefully) dropping in April/May?

Cloud 9 does Panic en la Playa at the Hard Rock in DR, so they could still be associated with Cloud 9 for OBH. 

But seriously, the wait is insufferable!
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: parkervb on Jun 16, 2017, 01:56 PM
so One Big Holiday Facebook account is asking what bands people would want to see a future OBH's....
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: bobmono on Jun 16, 2017, 05:39 PM
Quote from: parkervb on Jun 16, 2017, 01:56 PM
so One Big Holiday Facebook account is asking what bands people would want to see a future OBH's....

sounds like they are getting the chatter going, im thinking they announce next tuesday - right before summer tour starts.
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: dss on Jun 20, 2017, 02:41 PM
Quote from: teej on Jun 05, 2017, 01:41 PM
The Hard Rock Riviera Maya has five different four-day blocks that are unavailable for booking right now:

January 21-24;
January 26-29; (Widespread Panic)
January 31-Feb. 3; (Avetts)
Feb 11-Feb 14; and
Feb 16-Feb 19.

Last year, I believe Cloud 9 did four different events at HRRM:

Zac Brown Band;
One Big Holiday;
Avett Bros at the Beach; and
Widespread Panic.

I find it very hard to believe that OBH is not happening in 2018.

Updated to reflect Avett announcement (two weeks ago) and the WSP announcement this morning.
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: MMJ612 on Jun 22, 2017, 02:08 PM
Quote from: dss on Jun 20, 2017, 02:41 PM
Quote from: teej on Jun 05, 2017, 01:41 PM
The Hard Rock Riviera Maya has five different four-day blocks that are unavailable for booking right now:

January 21-24;
January 26-29; (Widespread Panic)
January 31-Feb. 3; (Avetts)
Feb 11-Feb 14; and
Feb 16-Feb 19.

Last year, I believe Cloud 9 did four different events at HRRM:

Zac Brown Band;
One Big Holiday;
Avett Bros at the Beach; and
Widespread Panic.

I find it very hard to believe that OBH is not happening in 2018.

Updated to reflect Avett announcement (two weeks ago) and the WSP announcement this morning.
Quote from: dss on Jun 20, 2017, 02:41 PM
Quote from: teej on Jun 05, 2017, 01:41 PM
The Hard Rock Riviera Maya has five different four-day blocks that are unavailable for booking right now:

January 21-24;
January 26-29; (Widespread Panic)
January 31-Feb. 3; (Avetts)
Feb 11-Feb 14; and
Feb 16-Feb 19.

Last year, I believe Cloud 9 did four different events at HRRM:

Zac Brown Band;
One Big Holiday;
Avett Bros at the Beach; and
Widespread Panic.

I find it very hard to believe that OBH is not happening in 2018.

Updated to reflect Avett announcement (two weeks ago) and the WSP announcement this morning.

Good info, thanks for posting
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: parkervb on Jun 29, 2017, 02:43 PM
March 2-6 in the DR
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: Emb1528 on Jun 29, 2017, 02:49 PM
YES!!! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: rumdiesel on Jun 29, 2017, 02:52 PM
Hell yeah!
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: rkwedge on Jun 29, 2017, 02:52 PM
Yay :cheesy: Finally, good call Justin!
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: sillyboob on Jun 29, 2017, 02:58 PM
Just announced, March 2 - 6 2018, Hard Rock, Dominican Republic!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: oistheone on Jun 29, 2017, 03:11 PM
Alright, reviews of the Hard Rock in Dominican as a concert venue, let's hear 'em people!!! Anyone been to that Widespread fest??
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: Cameron on Jun 29, 2017, 03:19 PM
way early but flights are...a lot!
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: parkervb on Jun 29, 2017, 03:29 PM
Quote from: Cameron on Jun 29, 2017, 03:19 PM
way early but flights are...a lot!

$560-630 from Norfolk, VA
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: APR on Jun 29, 2017, 03:36 PM
As much as getting away from winter in late Jan/early Feb is the greatest, I'm super happy that OBH4 is officially on and about the prospect of a visiting a new country and trying to make this work.  It will be tough to beat the concert courtyard, but those in the know, please chime in about venue as oistheone requested.
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: Cameron on Jun 29, 2017, 04:07 PM
Quote from: parkervb on Jun 29, 2017, 03:29 PM
Quote from: Cameron on Jun 29, 2017, 03:19 PM
way early but flights are...a lot!

$560-630 from Norfolk, VA

800 from Austin.
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: rkwedge on Jun 29, 2017, 04:28 PM
Quote from: APR on Jun 29, 2017, 03:36 PM
As much as getting away from winter in late Jan/early Feb is the greatest, I'm super happy that OBH4 is officially on and about the prospect of a visiting a new country and trying to make this work.  It will be tough to beat the concert courtyard, but those in the know, please chime in about venue as oistheone requested.
Not that I'm in the know but here's a good virtual tour of the place.
http://virtualtour.hardrockhotelpuntacana.com/
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: slappymoe on Jun 29, 2017, 04:30 PM
Quote from: Cameron on Jun 29, 2017, 04:07 PM
Quote from: parkervb on Jun 29, 2017, 03:29 PM
Quote from: Cameron on Jun 29, 2017, 03:19 PM
way early but flights are...a lot!

$560-630 from Norfolk, VA

800 from Austin.
yeah, looks like it's gonna be twice the $388 it cost me to fly from louisville to cancun earlier this year.

costly as it may be, i hope you pull the trigger on this one. you'll love it.
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: Cameron on Jun 29, 2017, 04:33 PM
We'll make it happen. Look forward to seeing you down there.
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: slappymoe on Jun 29, 2017, 04:38 PM
 
Quote from: Cameron on Jun 29, 2017, 04:33 PM
We'll make it happen. Look forward to seeing you down there.
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: Derek713 on Jun 29, 2017, 04:55 PM
Quote from: Cameron on Jun 29, 2017, 04:07 PM
Quote from: parkervb on Jun 29, 2017, 03:29 PM
Quote from: Cameron on Jun 29, 2017, 03:19 PM
way early but flights are...a lot!

$560-630 from Norfolk, VA

800 from Austin.
Any direct flight from Austin? I am not seeing any direct flight from Houston or New Orleans.
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: bobmono on Jun 29, 2017, 04:58 PM
This Hard Rock is WAY bigger - I wonder if we will see some bigger support acts in order to fill it???
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: MMJTX on Jun 29, 2017, 05:05 PM
have heard J Roddy Walston and the biz and PHJB will be there
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: slappymoe on Jun 29, 2017, 05:16 PM
Quote from: bobmono on Jun 29, 2017, 04:58 PM
This Hard Rock is WAY bigger - I wonder if we will see some bigger support acts in order to fill it???
yeah, 500 or so more rooms = 1000 or so more people.  not sure if that's good or bad.
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: bobmono on Jun 29, 2017, 05:34 PM
Quote from: slappymoe on Jun 29, 2017, 05:16 PM
Quote from: bobmono on Jun 29, 2017, 04:58 PM
This Hard Rock is WAY bigger - I wonder if we will see some bigger support acts in order to fill it???
yeah, 500 or so more rooms = 1000 or so more people.  not sure if that's good or bad.

either way - Jacket will deliver!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: oistheone on Jun 29, 2017, 06:09 PM
I think this might be the first major event in MMJ history that is cheaper to fly to from Canada than most places in the States.
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: robb on Jun 30, 2017, 08:59 AM
Quote from: oistheone on Jun 29, 2017, 06:09 PM
I think this might be the first major event in MMJ history that is cheaper to fly to from Canada than most places in the States.

so, see ya there?
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: Cameron on Jun 30, 2017, 12:25 PM
what was the cost per person last year for double occupancy?  just trying to ballpark what i'm dealing with.  thx!
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: rkwedge on Jun 30, 2017, 12:37 PM
 
Quote from: Cameron on Jun 30, 2017, 12:25 PM
what was the cost per person last year for double occupancy?  just trying to ballpark what i'm dealing with.  thx!
Mine was $1599 per person last year. That was courtyard building which is close to the stage. I think there was a $1499 per person double occupancy.  :beer:
Title: Re: OBH4 Thoughts
Post by: Cameron on Jun 30, 2017, 05:34 PM
Cool. Actually less than I thought. Thanks!