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Title: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: Jackets N Pones on May 08, 2018, 11:26 PM
Rockets over Dubs in 7
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: iLikeBeer on May 09, 2018, 02:28 PM
I wouldn't complain about that one bit!!!  :thumbsup:

Oh, and I really wish someone would take Charles Barkley's advice regarding what he would do to Draymond Green!!! 
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: rkwedge on May 09, 2018, 02:48 PM
Rockets over Dubs in 7
Wish I could agree but Chris Paul tends to disappear in big moments. Dubs in 6
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: parkervb on May 09, 2018, 04:18 PM
worst nightmare for the Dubs. They can't guard PGs and Capela is playing his best basketball right now. Still think they win in 7 though.

Very excited for this matchup and very excited Houston is in central time zone b/c this guy can't handle 10:30 tip offs anymore.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: ericm on May 09, 2018, 04:35 PM
Rockets over Dubs in 7
Wish I could agree but Chris Paul tends to disappear in big moments. Dubs in 6

Same here.

I need to see Paul and Harden show up for a whole big time series before I can pick them to win anything.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: iLikeBeer on May 09, 2018, 06:15 PM
Rockets over Dubs in 7
Wish I could agree but Chris Paul tends to disappear in big moments. Dubs in 6

Same here.

I need to see Paul and Harden show up for a whole big time series before I can pick them to win anything.

He was pretty clutch last night.  Houston was down 3 after 3 when he went off for 20 in the 4th quarter.  Granted, that's probably the first time that's happened, but he did carry them to the win to finally get his 1st conference finals appearance.  BTW, he also became the first player in playoff history to go for 40+ points, 10+ assists and ZERO turnovers.  Not a bad stat line...

As a Cavs fan, I can't imagine what Toronto fans are feeling after LeBronto ripped their hearts out again.  I remember how much I disliked (I'm being kind) MJ and he just beat us with the Ehlo shot.  LeBron has crushed Raptors fans spirits for 3 straight years?!?!

Regardless of who the Cavs face in the East Finals, I think they get it done in 6 or less.  And then in the Finals?  I'm not so confident against either Houston or Golden State...
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: Osistheones on May 09, 2018, 09:46 PM
I think Boston has a great shot at beating the Cavs. The Warriors most likely roll to another title.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: parkervb on May 10, 2018, 10:09 AM
this series is going to be tougher for LeBron than I think people are acknowledging and he won't have Kyrie this year to beat up on IT. Love has to continue the play he found in last 2 games of Raps series.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: Murph on May 10, 2018, 10:30 AM
I never have been a Lebron guy, but it sure has been fun watching him carry this team.  I still see this series going 7.  Warriors in 5.

How crazy is this picture?!  Lebron and a young Jayson Tatum.  Now going head to head in the ECF

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/AqZY6biCIAAHsfe.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: APR on May 11, 2018, 05:59 PM
Cavs - Warriors round 4 a few weeks away. 
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: rkwedge on May 13, 2018, 08:39 PM
Boston hammers Cleveland in game 1. Reguardless how this series goes, Brad Stevens is one of the best coaches in basketball. The Celtics are going to be a powerhouse for years to come.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: parkervb on May 14, 2018, 09:44 AM
Boston hammers Cleveland in game 1. Reguardless how this series goes, Brad Stevens is one of the best coaches in basketball. The Celtics are going to be a powerhouse for years to come.

no doubt about it. He's so good he's resetting players expectations for how teams should be run and coached. One reason the IT/Crowder to Cavs part of the Kyrie deal didn't work is that those guys were not impressed with Ty Lue and how the team was run.

How lucky did they get that the Sixers fell in love with Fultz?? They got arguably the best player in the draft and picked up a 1st round pick in addition.

Game 2 of ECF, it will be interesting to see how the Cavs respond to the way the Celtics defended Lebron. It's these types of adjustments that are so crucial in a series that had me saying Celtics in 7. I just don't think Lue is up to the task vs Stevens.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: iLikeBeer on May 14, 2018, 05:06 PM
Game 2 of ECF, it will be interesting to see how the Cavs respond to the way the Celtics defended Lebron. It's these types of adjustments that are so crucial in a series that had me saying Celtics in 7. I just don't think Lue is up to the task vs Stevens.

I'm not throwing in the towel on the series after one game by any means, but you bring up a great point.  IMO, Lue is not that great of a coach, he has just benefitted from being able to coach the greatest player to play the game since MJ.  Same could be said about Eric Spoelstra when LeBron was at Miami.  Lue seems to be slow to make the right adjustments in games and in series.  He got completely outcoached with halftime adjustments in the Indiana series.  Lue was just fortunate that LeBron is so much in Dwane Casey's and the rest of the Raptors' heads to make his questionable coaching a nonfactor.   It will be interesting to see how he fares against arguably the best coach in the NBA at the moment.

Personally, I don't think Boston can hold LeBron in check 2 games in a row.  I also thought the refs let a lot of things go that could have been called so it will be interesting to see how they call things in game 2.  All the Cavs were looking for was a split in Boston when this series began and they can still get it done on Tuesday...

Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: Osistheones on May 14, 2018, 06:31 PM
Let's slow down before we crown the guy. Pop is still the best currently doing it.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: parkervb on May 15, 2018, 11:26 AM
Let's slow down before we crown the guy. Pop is still the best currently doing it.

Pop is a first ballot HoFer. But, if we're talking best coach right now, I think it's Brad Stevens and not really close. He has take 2 totally different rosters to the ECF and as of now they are the favorite to win the East w/out their 2 best players vs one of the top 2 basketball players of all time. I'm not going to tell someone they are wrong at all if they say Pop is best doing it because he's earned that but if I had one game to win right now, I'd take Stevens.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: Osistheones on May 15, 2018, 12:58 PM
I just think the jury is still out to a large degree. Getting to the ECF isn't exactly a monumental task and imo Stevens should be getting a little less credit and Ainge should be getting a whole lot more. The bench is thin, but Brad is still working with a lot of talent and a well-balanced crew out there. They've done very well with their 1st picks the last 4 yrs. They're also playing against an aging superstar who has a mediocre supporting cast and as you guys pointed out a non-existent coach.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: parkervb on May 15, 2018, 01:26 PM
I just think the jury is still out to a large degree. Getting to the ECF isn't exactly a monumental task and imo Stevens should be getting a little less credit and Ainge should be getting a whole lot more. The bench is thin, but Brad is still working with a lot of talent and a well-balanced crew out there. They've done very well with their 1st picks the last 4 yrs. They're also playing against an aging superstar who has a mediocre supporting cast and as you guys pointed out a non-existent coach.

all valid points, I would quibble with "aging" superstar unless you are talking about Kevin Love. LBJ just played all 82 games and had one of his 3-5 best regular seasons.

another point on Stevens, it's not a large sample but the C's are 4-2 vs the Warriors over the last 3 seasons. I would guess that's the best H2H record in that span.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: APR on May 15, 2018, 01:29 PM
I like the Warriors and am now more convinced they're going to repeat, but I'm getting sick of Draymond.  I think he should have been ejected in the first quarter of game one just from shoving Harden and then a few of his other antics (recanting to fouls he obviously committed and yelling and over-reacting to fouls agains him that were actually called anyway). 

Regarding the Celtics, Ainge is great, but Stevens is winning without the top players Ainge brought in for them.  That is impressive as is Brown and Tatum.  The Celtics and Sixers should rule the East for a  long time.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: Murph on May 15, 2018, 05:18 PM

Regarding the Celtics, Ainge is great, but Stevens is winning without the top players Ainge brought in for them.  That is impressive as is Brown and Tatum.  The Celtics and Sixers should rule the East for a  long time.

...meanwhile Phil Jackson was falling asleep through Donovan Mitchell's workout and we ended up taking a 19 year old French kid who looked lost for 82 games. 
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: rkwedge on May 15, 2018, 11:01 PM
Wow Celtics exposing the Cavs. Cavs canít play team defense. 2-0 heading to the Land
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: Jackets N Pones on May 24, 2018, 04:54 PM
LET'S GO ROCKETS!
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: walterfredo on May 24, 2018, 10:38 PM
LET'S GO ROCKETS! Dubs!
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: parkervb on May 25, 2018, 10:05 AM
Let's go 'Bron! Back against the wall like 2016
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: APR on May 25, 2018, 01:42 PM
Let's go 'Bron! Back against the wall like 2016

It's going to be fun!  Also less surprising if the Cavs win this series compared to the '16 Finals.  He doesn't have Kyrie this time, and the Celtics don't have the lineup or the most wins ever like the Warriors had then.  I really hope he pulls out another win.  A Rockets-Celtics series doesn't have the same spark as Warriors-Cavs rematch.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: Osistheones on May 26, 2018, 07:30 PM
Maybe not the same spark, but probably a more entertaining and competitive series I would guess. I think GS steamrolls this Cavs team worse than last year.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: parkervb on May 28, 2018, 11:02 AM
Celtics shot themselves out of the game...well, Terry Rozier & Jaylen Brown going 3-22 from 3 shot them out of the game. I can't think that was part of the gameplan.

Lebron did what he had to (incl getting some generous calls/non-calls) and he's now won 6 straight games 7. Not bad.

One more game 7 to go. I think Warriors win handily.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: Jackets N Pones on May 28, 2018, 06:30 PM
Rockets over Dubs in 7

Anything is posssssiiiiiibbbblllleeeeeeee!
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: rkwedge on May 29, 2018, 12:23 AM
Cavs-Dubs round 4. Houston put up a good effort, just seemed to run out of steam. I donít feel the Cavs have a chance, same as last year, Dubs in 5
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: parkervb on May 29, 2018, 09:54 AM
Cavs-Dubs round 4. Houston put up a good effort, just seemed to run out of steam. I donít feel the Cavs have a chance, same as last year, Dubs in 5

is "run out of steam" a euphemism for "missing 27 straight 3s"? for real, it's one of the craziest things I've ever seen to miss 27 straight 3s.

Warriors in 6
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: ericm on May 29, 2018, 10:21 AM
Cavs-Dubs round 4. Houston put up a good effort, just seemed to run out of steam. I donít feel the Cavs have a chance, same as last year, Dubs in 5

is "run out of steam" a euphemism for "missing 27 straight 3s"? for real, it's one of the craziest things I've ever seen to miss 27 straight 3s.

Warriors in 6

I hear ya Parker. They were chipping the paint off those rims last night with those bricks. Embarrassing shooting for any team let alone one at home in a game 7 of a Conference final.

And boy oh boy did Harden leave the court quick when it was over. So much for poor shooting "not mattering". Lol
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: rkwedge on May 29, 2018, 10:47 AM
Cavs-Dubs round 4. Houston put up a good effort, just seemed to run out of steam. I don’t feel the Cavs have a chance, same as last year, Dubs in 5

is "run out of steam" a euphemism for "missing 27 straight 3s"? for real, it's one of the craziest things I've ever seen to miss 27 straight 3s.

Warriors in 6
HaHa exactly, you lose your legs the long jumper is the first thing to go!

Harden sure didn't make any new fans either with that qiuck exit from the court. Like you said earlier ericm "need to see Paul and Harden show up for a whole big time series" and we didn't.

Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: ericm on May 29, 2018, 11:02 AM
Cavs-Dubs round 4. Houston put up a good effort, just seemed to run out of steam. I donít feel the Cavs have a chance, same as last year, Dubs in 5

is "run out of steam" a euphemism for "missing 27 straight 3s"? for real, it's one of the craziest things I've ever seen to miss 27 straight 3s.

Warriors in 6
HaHa exactly, you lose your legs the long jumper is the first thing to go!

Harden sure didn't make any new fans either with that qiuck exit from the court. Like you said earlier ericm "need to see Paul and Harden show up for a whole big time series" and we didn't.

Yup. Harden got his 32 or whatever he finished with but they sure were a quiet 32. What did it take to get them? It seemed like he took a ton of shots.

No doubt the loss of CP for games 6 and 7 hurt them but I don't want to hear that excuse. There's no guarantee they would've won had he played, yet I'm sure we'll hear that out of them all offseason.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: iLikeBeer on May 29, 2018, 11:45 AM
No doubt the loss of CP for games 6 and 7 hurt them but I don't want to hear that excuse. There's no guarantee they would've won had he played, yet I'm sure we'll hear that out of them all offseason.

It's not really an excuse though.  CP3 was arguably Houston's best player in this series.  It's tough to overcome an injury of that magnitude against a team as good as Golden State.

Let's say Steph or Clay goes down in the finals and the Cavs somehow would go on to win.  You don't think everyone would be saying the Cavs won BUT...

And one last thing, LeBron is far and away the MVP this season and that is even MORE obvious after watching the performances of LeBron and Harden in the conference finals.  One went on the road and led his team to a win in game 7, the other disappeared in a home game in a loss in game 7.  Too bad the people that vote for it can't figure it out...
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: APR on May 29, 2018, 11:57 AM
Playoff performances don't factor into MVP voting, but I still agree LeBron should be MVP.  It's Harden's turn so he'll get it.  LeBron deserves a few more MVPs as did Kobe (who only got one).

Boston and Houston both had terrible nights shooting when it mattered most.  It happens.   Injuries happen too.  Warriors beat Cleveland without Kyrie and Love, Houston without Paul, and the Spurs without Leonard.  They're lucky and good.

Warriors in 5 if Igoudala is back...... maybe it goes to 6 if he is out.  I'm just glad I get to watch LeBron more, and it would be insane if he could pull out an upset.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: Osistheones on May 29, 2018, 12:03 PM
Get your brooms out.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: parkervb on May 29, 2018, 12:17 PM
Quote
Let's say Steph or Clay goes down in the finals and the Cavs somehow would go on to win.  You don't think everyone would be saying the Cavs won BUT...

This already happens with Draymond missing game 5 in 2016.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: ericm on May 29, 2018, 03:59 PM
No doubt the loss of CP for games 6 and 7 hurt them but I don't want to hear that excuse. There's no guarantee they would've won had he played, yet I'm sure we'll hear that out of them all offseason.

It's not really an excuse though.  CP3 was arguably Houston's best player in this series.  It's tough to overcome an injury of that magnitude against a team as good as Golden State.

Let's say Steph or Clay goes down in the finals and the Cavs somehow would go on to win.  You don't think everyone would be saying the Cavs won BUT...

And one last thing, LeBron is far and away the MVP this season and that is even MORE obvious after watching the performances of LeBron and Harden in the conference finals.  One went on the road and led his team to a win in game 7, the other disappeared in a home game in a loss in game 7.  Too bad the people that vote for it can't figure it out...

Too easy and a cop out imo. It would be different if they proved themselves in the past like GS and suffered an injury like you describe but CP and Harden haven't won squat. While they might've won if CP played, I don't want to hear them say they would've as if it was a certainty. I could just as easily say with certainty CP would've choked. Until they prove themselves as winners, to me they'll be looked at as always coming up short when it matters.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: Murph on May 29, 2018, 05:14 PM
Very strange series.  I don't remember two series going 7 games that each had so many blowouts one way or the other.

If somehow, someway Lebron can pull this out I'm ready to call him to GOAT (Warriors in 5 is my prediction though)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: parkervb on May 31, 2018, 10:08 AM
not playoffs but this is a great story:

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/5/29/17406750/bryan-colangelo-philadelphia-76ers-twitter-joel-embiid-anonymous-markelle-fultz

the best league.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: Murph on May 31, 2018, 11:27 AM
not playoffs but this is a great story:

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/5/29/17406750/bryan-colangelo-philadelphia-76ers-twitter-joel-embiid-anonymous-markelle-fultz

the best league.

Haha you cant make this shit up.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: parkervb on May 31, 2018, 11:31 AM
not playoffs but this is a great story:

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/5/29/17406750/bryan-colangelo-philadelphia-76ers-twitter-joel-embiid-anonymous-markelle-fultz

the best league.

Haha you cant make this shit up.

it's now looking like his wife may have been behind these accounts.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: rkwedge on May 31, 2018, 12:51 PM
not playoffs but this is a great story:

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/5/29/17406750/bryan-colangelo-philadelphia-76ers-twitter-joel-embiid-anonymous-markelle-fultz

the best league.

Haha you cant make this shit up.

it's now looking like his wife may have been behind these accounts.
OMG this is getting funnier by the minute. I wonder if the wife is the scape goat or if it's truly her behind it.  Stay tuned....
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: ericm on Jun 01, 2018, 07:08 AM
not playoffs but this is a great story:

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/5/29/17406750/bryan-colangelo-philadelphia-76ers-twitter-joel-embiid-anonymous-markelle-fultz

the best league.

Haha you cant make this shit up.

it's now looking like his wife may have been behind these accounts.
OMG this is getting funnier by the minute. I wonder if the wife is the scape goat or if it's truly her behind it.  Stay tuned....

Zero chance his wife is behind this,IMO. She's clearly taking the fall here in order to try and save his job and rep. I think he might've used her number to set up these accounts but no way do I think she's the one who actually wrote the tweets.

I think he's gone and will be lucky to get another administrative job in the NBA ever again and I expect Silver to come down pretty hard on him.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: parkervb on Jun 01, 2018, 09:34 AM
fucking JR Smith...
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: Murph on Jun 01, 2018, 09:53 AM
Hahah I still cant get over that.  Game 1 was an instant classic though
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: parkervb on Jun 01, 2018, 10:06 AM
any shot the Cavs had, gone. An all time great Finals performance for naught. I haven't felt this way since 28-3 (this is nowhere near that feeling but still hurts)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: APR on Jun 01, 2018, 11:01 AM
Questionable calls, Hill missing the free throw, but JR..... come on!  Everyone else knew the score.  I read one of his quotes from last night claiming he knew the score and was looking for a better shot.  Ridiculous. 

On another note, I'm no fan of violence, but would not mind if Barkley came thru on his threat and punched Draymond.  I hope Tristen isn't punished for the late game skirmish. 

Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: rkwedge on Jun 01, 2018, 11:21 AM
That was just a crazy last few minutes of regulation, questionable calls (I do think that was a block on Lebron) the Dubs blowing a nice lead down the stretch, JR losing his mind, Lebron just being the beast he is, it had everything. It'll be interesting to see if the Cavs can let it go and regroup for game 2 as they had them in game 1. Finally a close playoff game to watch too.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: Osistheones on Jun 01, 2018, 11:33 AM
Too early to discuss where Lebron ends up/should go next year? Philly is appealing obviously. Back to Miami? Indiana to team up with his pal Born Ready? Super team in Houston? LA isn't a good option unless someone else signs there.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: iLikeBeer on Jun 05, 2018, 08:30 AM
Too early to discuss where Lebron ends up/should go next year? Philly is appealing obviously. Back to Miami? Indiana to team up with his pal Born Ready? Super team in Houston? LA isn't a good option unless someone else signs there.
Houston would make the most sense to me but I don't see LeBron going west to have to deal with Golden State before the Finals.  Being here in NE Ohio, I have been hearing more and more national media interviewed on local sports talk leaning more towards him staying because there really isn't a great fit for him anywhere else right now. 

Although, with all the fuckups at the end of Game 1 by his teammates and his coach, maybe he's finally decided enough is enough.  I saw video of the Cav's huddle after regulation and he pretty much look beyond frustrated.  Then Ty Lue joined the huddle and you could see LeBron ask if they were out of timeouts and when he found out they had one and didn't use it he looked like he wanted to leave the gym?!?! 

As for my opinion of whether LeBron stays or goes, I'm hoping for him staying but I'm not going to be shocked or angered if he goes like I was when he left the first time.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: parkervb on Jun 05, 2018, 09:11 AM
yea, there is no clear landing place for him. I would guess he signs a 1-year deal to stay with Cavs. Maybe they can do something with that #8 pick and get another piece either via a trade or trying to take a player who can make an immediate impact. They have some other expiring contracts that could possibly be packaged to a team looking to rebuild.

PHI doesn't immediately look like a basketball fit, but Lebron is one of the smartest players in the league so he could probably make it work. HOU seems too obvious to me. The Lakers are still an interesting destination if they choose to add another max deal this summer.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: rkwedge on Jun 05, 2018, 01:25 PM
I can't think of anyway Lebron and Harden could co-exist. They're both the same type players so there wouldn't be enough ball to share for those egos. It is only an opinion but Lebron seems to be hard to play with, i.e. Kyrie Irving. He wants so bad to be considered the best ever (which he may be) that he's forgotten it's a game and should be fun. I think he stays in Cleveland and the supporting cast gets rebuilt. I really think he'd go to NY if anything good could work out there.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: iLikeBeer on Jun 06, 2018, 01:46 PM
The Knicks are a freaking trainwreck.  They've got a ways to go before they become appealing enough for LeBron.  I do agree that I think he probably wants to go to the Knicks and bring them a banner more than anywhere else which is why he should just keep signing one year deals with the Cavs until the Knicks can figure things out and they finally make sense for him to sign there.

I forgot about the Lakers when I was posting yesterday.  They could sign Paul George as well and still have room for another significant FA signing.  The thing is, how appealing is Paul George as an option?  He didn't exactly make OKC better.  And it seems like the Pacers did better with addition by subtraction in letting George go and adding Oladipo and others.  And then there's the whole West thing again.  IMO, even with George, the Lakers w/LeBron are still a less talented team overall than the Cavs are w/LeBron.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: Osistheones on Jun 06, 2018, 07:45 PM
Lakers with George and Lebron are a better team than the Cavs ime. Green behind the ears sure, but a lot more potential there. I also believe he could definitely make it work with Harden in Houston and they would be deadly. And I think he knows that's the only chance he has to beat GS for the foreseeable future. I agree that he wants to lockdown the GOAT title so I think there's a really good chance that he ends up there. What's the point of staying in the EC and losing in the finals every year? And maybe not even making the finals with up and coming teams like Philly, Boston, Milwaukee, etc. He'll have to slay the beast one or two rounds sooner, but gives himself a much better chance. If his finals record gets worse, it just gives people more fodder to say he's overrated/choker, blah blah blah.

Also he seems like he still has a fair amount of fun currently, aside from the losing of course. I think the notion that he's an uptight jerk is way overblown and off base. Not sure Kyrie's perspective is something to put a lot of stock in.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: Jackets N Pones on Jun 29, 2018, 07:54 PM
I agree iLikeBeer and rkwedge...Bron to the Knicks...

I think the storyline of bringing back a historic franchise over time is more appealing to him than going to some frankenstein team that is going to lose to GSW anyway. Plus Fiz is HC now from Bron's Miami days and the young talent is there just like when he came back to cleveland for the second time. Sign with the Knicks even if PG and The Klaw don't, try to make a deep playoff run and get the buzz going, attract free agents next year or year after. KD is incredible, can't take anything away from him, but I think just joining up with a team that is already close and trying to make it work is just kind of played out. I dunno I always felt like he has a connection with NYC and this is his chance to run the mecca. Who knows maybe Kyrie could join him later per recent rumors online.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2018
Post by: Jackets N Pones on Jun 29, 2018, 07:56 PM
I can't think of anyway Lebron and Harden could co-exist. They're both the same type players so there wouldn't be enough ball to share for those egos. It is only an opinion but Lebron seems to be hard to play with, i.e. Kyrie Irving. He wants so bad to be considered the best ever (which he may be) that he's forgotten it's a game and should be fun. I think he stays in Cleveland and the supporting cast gets rebuilt. I really think he'd go to NY if anything good could work out there.

Yes I don't think Harden wants Bron in HOU at all.