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Title: X-MAS JAM JIM JAMES FULL SET ( VIDEO)
Post by: cshum372 on Dec 11, 2018, 02:19 PM
Hey folks,

If you haven't already had a chance to check out Jim's set at Christmas Jam- there is a beautiful stream posted on YouTube. Enjoy!

Setlist:

Just a Fool
Throwback
Get to Rome
Here in Spirit
Over and Over
No Use Waiting
No Secrets
New Life ( Has it ever been played at this tempo??)
State of the Art

Title: Re: X-MAS JAM JIM JAMES FULL SET ( VIDEO)
Post by: cshum372 on Dec 11, 2018, 02:23 PM

If you wanna check out the rock tempo " New Life" it starts around 31:09
Title: Re: X-MAS JAM JIM JAMES FULL SET ( VIDEO)
Post by: parkervb on Dec 11, 2018, 02:34 PM
nice, looks like this guy has all the Xmas Jam stuff. Going to checkout Dark Side of the Mule (Jim on Us and Them)
Title: Re: X-MAS JAM JIM JAMES FULL SET ( VIDEO)
Post by: cshum372 on Dec 11, 2018, 03:39 PM
Quote from: parkervb on Dec 11, 2018, 02:34 PM
nice, looks like this guy has all the Xmas Jam stuff. Going to checkout Dark Side of the Mule (Jim on Us and Them)

I used to live in Asheville, and have attended or streamed every X-mas jam for the past 10 years or so. This year's was really wonderful! There's so much great music that came from the " house band"- Now i live 10 hours away from Asheville, but still love the tradition of staying up, making cookies, eggnog, and jamming through these marathon shows! :P
Title: Re: X-MAS JAM JIM JAMES FULL SET ( VIDEO)
Post by: ericm on Dec 11, 2018, 04:01 PM
I heard there was a killer pop up show in town taboot as guys couldn't get out of town because of the snow.   :cool:  $10 a ticket and sold out in a heartbeat.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: X-MAS JAM JIM JAMES FULL SET ( VIDEO)
Post by: cshum372 on Dec 11, 2018, 04:14 PM
Quote from: ericm on Dec 11, 2018, 04:01 PM
I heard there was a killer pop up show in town taboot as guys couldn't get out of town because of the snow.   :cool:  $10 a ticket and sold out in a heartbeat.   :thumbsup:

Yeah- It was Warren Haynes with David Grohl and a bunch of other musicians the next day. Talk about a once in a lifetime show!
Title: Re: X-MAS JAM JIM JAMES FULL SET ( VIDEO)
Post by: ericm on Dec 11, 2018, 04:21 PM
Quote from: cshum372 on Dec 11, 2018, 04:14 PM
Quote from: ericm on Dec 11, 2018, 04:01 PM
I heard there was a killer pop up show in town taboot as guys couldn't get out of town because of the snow.   :cool:  $10 a ticket and sold out in a heartbeat.   :thumbsup:

Yeah- It was Warren Haynes with David Grohl and a bunch of other musicians the next day. Talk about a once in a lifetime show!

Yup, must've been great to see.

https://jambands.com/news/2018/12/10/warren-haynes-and-dave-grohl-play-surprise-asheville-pop-up-show/
Title: Re: X-MAS JAM JIM JAMES FULL SET ( VIDEO)
Post by: RobRoy286 on Dec 12, 2018, 08:38 AM
I hate to be negative but...that just does not sound good. I know Jim is in this quick and dirty rock phase but it really just sounds flat. I guess it's unfair to compare any band to Jacket, but I'd way rather hear Jim play solo acoustic. That A New Life is...something.
Title: Re: X-MAS JAM JIM JAMES FULL SET ( VIDEO)
Post by: jttouch2 on Dec 12, 2018, 10:03 AM
Quote from: RobRoy286 on Dec 12, 2018, 08:38 AM
I hate to be negative but...that just does not sound good. I know Jim is in this quick and dirty rock phase but it really just sounds flat. I guess it's unfair to compare any band to Jacket, but I'd way rather hear Jim play solo acoustic. That A New Life is...something.

That other guitar player was pretty rough and I don't love that A New Life arrangement either. No Secrets still kicks major ass though.
Title: Re: X-MAS JAM JIM JAMES FULL SET ( VIDEO)
Post by: RobRoy286 on Dec 12, 2018, 10:13 AM
Quote from: jttouch2 on Dec 12, 2018, 10:03 AM
Quote from: RobRoy286 on Dec 12, 2018, 08:38 AM
I hate to be negative but...that just does not sound good. I know Jim is in this quick and dirty rock phase but it really just sounds flat. I guess it's unfair to compare any band to Jacket, but I'd way rather hear Jim play solo acoustic. That A New Life is...something.

That other guitar player was pretty rough and I don't love that A New Life arrangement either. No Secrets still kicks major ass though.
Yeah...no idea what he's seeing in that guitarist.
Title: Re: X-MAS JAM JIM JAMES FULL SET ( VIDEO)
Post by: Mr. White on Dec 12, 2018, 10:35 AM
Quote from: RobRoy286 on Dec 12, 2018, 10:13 AM
Quote from: jttouch2 on Dec 12, 2018, 10:03 AM
Quote from: RobRoy286 on Dec 12, 2018, 08:38 AM
I hate to be negative but...that just does not sound good. I know Jim is in this quick and dirty rock phase but it really just sounds flat. I guess it's unfair to compare any band to Jacket, but I'd way rather hear Jim play solo acoustic. That A New Life is...something.

That other guitar player was pretty rough and I don't love that A New Life arrangement either. No Secrets still kicks major ass though.
Yeah...no idea what he's seeing in that guitarist.

Jim's guitarist is Kevin Ratterman (formerly of Wax Fang - a Louisville band that's still around without him). He's been in Jim's solo band since the beginning (2013). He's a big friend of Jim's and owns and operates La La Land in Louisville where he produces and does engeneering for lots of local and national bands - including MMJ. He recently moved out to L.A. (probably to be near Jim and collaborate better with him) but still owns La La Land and has left trusted friends in charge of the place while he's away.

Also, Ratterman is in Twin Limb who have opened for MMJ and for Jim solo on several occasions.
Title: Re: X-MAS JAM JIM JAMES FULL SET ( VIDEO)
Post by: jttouch2 on Dec 12, 2018, 10:37 AM
Quote from: Mr. White on Dec 12, 2018, 10:35 AM
Quote from: RobRoy286 on Dec 12, 2018, 10:13 AM
Quote from: jttouch2 on Dec 12, 2018, 10:03 AM
Quote from: RobRoy286 on Dec 12, 2018, 08:38 AM
I hate to be negative but...that just does not sound good. I know Jim is in this quick and dirty rock phase but it really just sounds flat. I guess it's unfair to compare any band to Jacket, but I'd way rather hear Jim play solo acoustic. That A New Life is...something.

That other guitar player was pretty rough and I don't love that A New Life arrangement either. No Secrets still kicks major ass though.
Yeah...no idea what he's seeing in that guitarist.

Jim's guitarist is Kevin Ratterman (formerly of Wax Fang - a Louisville band that's still around without him). He's been in Jim's solo band since the beginning (2013). He's a big friend of Jim's and owns and operates La La Land in Louisville where he produces and does engeneering for lots of local and national bands - including MMJ. He recently moved out to L.A. (probably to be near Jim and collaborate better with him) but still owns La La Land and has left trusted friends in charge of the place while he's away.

Dang, didn't know that was Kevin. Obviously love all the engineering work he's done but some of those guitar tracks on this show are pretty subpar. Hope they can get it ironed out before the expected solo tour this spring.
Title: Re: X-MAS JAM JIM JAMES FULL SET ( VIDEO)
Post by: Mr. White on Dec 12, 2018, 10:42 AM
Quote from: jttouch2 on Dec 12, 2018, 10:37 AM
Quote from: Mr. White on Dec 12, 2018, 10:35 AM
Quote from: RobRoy286 on Dec 12, 2018, 10:13 AM
Quote from: jttouch2 on Dec 12, 2018, 10:03 AM
Quote from: RobRoy286 on Dec 12, 2018, 08:38 AM
I hate to be negative but...that just does not sound good. I know Jim is in this quick and dirty rock phase but it really just sounds flat. I guess it’s unfair to compare any band to Jacket, but I’d way rather hear Jim play solo acoustic. That A New Life is...something.

That other guitar player was pretty rough and I don't love that A New Life arrangement either. No Secrets still kicks major ass though.
Yeah...no idea what he’s seeing in that guitarist.

Jim's guitarist is Kevin Ratterman (formerly of Wax Fang - a Louisville band that's still around without him). He's been in Jim's solo band since the beginning (2013). He's a big friend of Jim's and owns and operates La La Land in Louisville where he produces and does engeneering for lots of local and national bands - including MMJ. He recently moved out to L.A. (probably to be near Jim and collaborate better with him) but still owns La La Land and has left trusted friends in charge of the place while he's away.

Dang, didn't know that was Kevin. Obviously love all the engineering work he's done but some of those guitar tracks on this show are pretty subpar. Hope they can get it ironed out before the expected solo tour this spring.

He's really a drummer. That's what he was in Wax Fang. When he toured with Jim for the Regions ... album, he didn't do a lot of soloing stuff or stuff that resembled what Carl does. Instead, he manned the computers/synthesizers/drum machine aspects and played some filler on guitar. He does need to work on not getting out of sync with what Jim's playing and just going with it. He can do a wonderful job, if he tries ... in my opinion.
Title: Re: X-MAS JAM JIM JAMES FULL SET ( VIDEO)
Post by: RobRoy286 on Dec 12, 2018, 11:03 AM
Jim's solo bands are just not good. It's a bummer that Jim seems more interested in this mediocre stuff while the best live band to ever exist is just sitting on the sidelines, and will be for ANOTHER year. Obviously they're all humans, and MMJ won't get together just because I want them to. But mannn, these solo bands just sound bad.
Title: Re: X-MAS JAM JIM JAMES FULL SET ( VIDEO)
Post by: crooney on Dec 12, 2018, 11:18 AM
imho, jim's solo bands are fantastic.  different than the jacket, but when you have ratterman, seth from floating action, and givan, that's a killer band.  different strokes for different folks i guess, but maybe listen a little closer.
Title: Re: X-MAS JAM JIM JAMES FULL SET ( VIDEO)
Post by: RobRoy286 on Dec 12, 2018, 11:33 AM
For the record, I love Uniform as a studio album. The live performances just sound flat, jagged, and awkward. If this was my first exposure to Jim, I don't think I'd be in a rush to hear more.

Okay, I'm done. I'll crawl back into my hole and wait for Red Rocks.
Title: Re: X-MAS JAM JIM JAMES FULL SET ( VIDEO)
Post by: cshum372 on Dec 12, 2018, 12:28 PM


you guy's aren't wrong. I thought the X-mas jam performance was pretty flat also.
Title: Re: X-MAS JAM JIM JAMES FULL SET ( VIDEO)
Post by: MOWJO8185 on Dec 12, 2018, 04:40 PM
Yeah, this didn't sound great, but I thought the Regions and Eternally Even bands were pretty solid. I listened to the Tabernacle show from the Eternally Even tour just a couple days ago and enjoyed it a good deal. I would expect, if there's a full band spring tour, they will work out some of the kinks and sound pretty good.

In any case, glad to have this recording just so the completist in me has some live documentation of Jim full band touring behind Uniform Distortion. Hope there are longer shows this spring!
Title: Re: X-MAS JAM JIM JAMES FULL SET ( VIDEO)
Post by: jttouch2 on Dec 12, 2018, 05:32 PM
Quote from: MOWJO8185 on Dec 12, 2018, 04:40 PM
Yeah, this didn't sound great, but I thought the Regions and Eternally Even bands were pretty solid. I listened to the Tabernacle show from the Eternally Even tour just a couple days ago and enjoyed it a good deal. I would expect, if there's a full band spring tour, they will work out some of the kinks and sound pretty good.

In any case, glad to have this recording just so the completist in me has some live documentation of Jim full band touring behind Uniform Distortion. Hope there are longer shows this spring!
The touring band behind Eternally Even was PHENOMENAL, and the KCRW session of Uniform Distortion sounds a lot better than this so maybe it was just a rough day
Title: Re: X-MAS JAM JIM JAMES FULL SET ( VIDEO)
Post by: cshum372 on Dec 12, 2018, 08:12 PM
Quote from: jttouch2 on Dec 12, 2018, 05:32 PM
Quote from: MOWJO8185 on Dec 12, 2018, 04:40 PM


The touring band behind Eternally Even was PHENOMENAL, and the KCRW session of Uniform Distortion sounds a lot better than this so maybe it was just a rough day

It's the same exact band; I think the difference is the nature of the songs- these Uniform Distortion songs are just so raw ( garage band-y) whereas Eternally Even was these really produced, synth led tracks-( which I also preferred in the live setting.)

I have yet to hear a solid performance of this new material- in fact, I think I ended up preferring the stripped down acoustic takes in the live setting.

Title: Re: X-MAS JAM JIM JAMES FULL SET ( VIDEO)
Post by: davymac on Dec 13, 2018, 06:29 AM
Quote from: RobRoy286 on Dec 12, 2018, 08:38 AM
I hate to be negative but...that just does not sound good. I know Jim is in this quick and dirty rock phase but it really just sounds flat. I guess it's unfair to compare any band to Jacket, but I'd way rather hear Jim play solo acoustic. That A New Life is...something.

I wasn't gonna say anything, but completely I agree.  This is probably the worst JJ performance I've heard.