I know there is a thread about the new Strand of Oaks album in the other music thread, but in case some of you aren't aware, the new Strand of Oaks album features Tom, Carl, Pat, and Bo as the backing band. This is a perfect combination of talent in my opinion, and this is the next best thing to a new MMJ album. The MMJ sound oozes out of this one and sounds like Steam Engine's distant cousin. Can't wait to hear a true MMJ album, but until then, this will definitely do!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Mxn9iL3Bd-M
Thanks for the heads up, I will definitely have to check this one out!!!
Thanks for the heads up
Man, do I ever wish Forever Chords was a MMJ song - Jim could've elevated this to another level and it could be a live show fixture that I could see extending beyond the 9 mins.
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https://www.stereogum.com/2036496/strand-of-oaks-eraserland-tim-showalter-song-meanings/franchises/interview/
Excellent article for MMJ fans. I loved the part where he talks about recording the one solo acoustic track and unknowingly was playing Jim's old acoustic guitar, and therefore brought Jim onto the record in a way. This album is definitely part of MMJ lore now. I also loved the part where he talks about messing up a part after the MMJ members nailed it and feeling inadequate compared to Jim. No one is Jim...but Tim put together an excellent record here.
I've listened to this album 7 or 8 times since yesterday and it just keeps getting better to these ears of mine...
Quote from: Varitek on Mar 24, 2019, 01:37 AMI've listened to this album 7 or 8 times since yesterday and it just keeps getting better to these ears of mine...
So good. Too bad this forum is dead...tons of MMJ talk to be had about this album.
Quote from: Nikkogino on Mar 24, 2019, 09:34 AMQuote from: Varitek on Mar 24, 2019, 01:37 AMI've listened to this album 7 or 8 times since yesterday and it just keeps getting better to these ears of mine...
So good. Too bad this forum is dead...tons of MMJ talk to be had about this album.
Sorry but it just ain't MMJ without Jim. This actually seems real discouraging to me. More proof that everyone except Jim is down to play together. The guys create some great music, but it sucks that they're working with a different frontman while Jim is in la-la land. I hate to be a downer, this just doesn't strike me as MMJ talk.
Quote from: RobRoy286 on Mar 24, 2019, 10:36 AMQuote from: Nikkogino on Mar 24, 2019, 09:34 AMQuote from: Varitek on Mar 24, 2019, 01:37 AMI've listened to this album 7 or 8 times since yesterday and it just keeps getting better to these ears of mine...
So good. Too bad this forum is dead...tons of MMJ talk to be had about this album.
Sorry but it just ain't MMJ without Jim. This actually seems real discouraging to me. More proof that everyone except Jim is down to play together. The guys create some great music, but it sucks that they're working with a different frontman while Jim is in la-la land. I hate to be a downer, this just doesn't strike me as MMJ talk.
It's obviously not MMJ without Jim, but the band is excellent here, and so is Tim. 4 of 5 members recording music in their home studio is definitely MMJ talk.
MMJ will get back together and it will be excellent. I'd rather the guys make awesome music than sit on their hands waiting for Jim to come off his solo kick.
I have only heard the first song. It really reminded me of Israel Nash, who often sounds like a cross between Neil's Harvest, and ISM. Kind of a trip finding out the backing band is the same one Roger Waters once used at Newport.
Just a heads up for those looking to buy it as a download - Amazon has it for $9.49 with the bonus track Cruel Fisherman (17 minutes long!), Bandcamp has it for $10 and it doesn't have the bonus track.
Quote from: sillyboob on Mar 25, 2019, 12:08 PMJust a heads up for those looking to buy it as a download - Amazon has it for $9.49 with the bonus track Cruel Fisherman (17 minutes long!), Bandcamp has it for $10 and it doesn't have the bonus track.
For as much as I like the album - and I liked it a LOT - Cruel Fisherman is nonsense. Droning abstract sound for 17 minutes. I'll be listening to the album without the bonus track.
Quote from: MOWJO8185 on Mar 25, 2019, 12:43 PMQuote from: sillyboob on Mar 25, 2019, 12:08 PMJust a heads up for those looking to buy it as a download - Amazon has it for $9.49 with the bonus track Cruel Fisherman (17 minutes long!), Bandcamp has it for $10 and it doesn't have the bonus track.
For as much as I like the album - and I liked it a LOT - Cruel Fisherman is nonsense. Droning abstract sound for 17 minutes. I'll be listening to the album without the bonus track.
Funny thing - I love that sort of noise track. Probably because having some sort of background noise helps out tremendously with my tinnitus.
Quote from: sillyboob on Mar 25, 2019, 01:43 PMQuote from: MOWJO8185 on Mar 25, 2019, 12:43 PMQuote from: sillyboob on Mar 25, 2019, 12:08 PMJust a heads up for those looking to buy it as a download - Amazon has it for $9.49 with the bonus track Cruel Fisherman (17 minutes long!), Bandcamp has it for $10 and it doesn't have the bonus track.
For as much as I like the album - and I liked it a LOT - Cruel Fisherman is nonsense. Droning abstract sound for 17 minutes. I'll be listening to the album without the bonus track.
Funny thing - I love that sort of noise track. Probably because having some sort of background noise helps out tremendously with my tinnitus.
There was a time in my life I thought stuff like that was cool. I just don't have the patience for it anymore. At least it is its own track at the end of the album and it can just be lopped off, as opposed to being the last 12 minutes of a track that starts as a song and then has another song after it (looking at you, Wilco's Less Than You Think).
Quote from: MOWJO8185 on Mar 25, 2019, 02:13 PMQuote from: sillyboob on Mar 25, 2019, 01:43 PMQuote from: MOWJO8185 on Mar 25, 2019, 12:43 PMQuote from: sillyboob on Mar 25, 2019, 12:08 PMJust a heads up for those looking to buy it as a download - Amazon has it for $9.49 with the bonus track Cruel Fisherman (17 minutes long!), Bandcamp has it for $10 and it doesn't have the bonus track.
For as much as I like the album - and I liked it a LOT - Cruel Fisherman is nonsense. Droning abstract sound for 17 minutes. I'll be listening to the album without the bonus track.
Funny thing - I love that sort of noise track. Probably because having some sort of background noise helps out tremendously with my tinnitus.
There was a time in my life I thought stuff like that was cool. I just don't have the patience for it anymore. At least it is its own track at the end of the album and it can just be lopped off, as opposed to being the last 12 minutes of a track that starts as a song and then has another song after it (looking at you, Wilco's Less Than You Think).
Definitely prefer having it as a separate track. And yes, I was also thinking of Less Than You Think.
I think what we're seeing is that the band is just waiting on Jim.
Quote from: parkervb on Mar 26, 2019, 10:03 AMI think what we're seeing is that the band is just waiting on Jim.
Yup :/
Quote from: parkervb on Mar 26, 2019, 10:03 AMI think what we're seeing is that the band is just waiting on Jim.
Or a band helping their friend make an awesome album.
Quote from: Nikkogino on Mar 26, 2019, 08:06 PMQuote from: parkervb on Mar 26, 2019, 10:03 AMI think what we're seeing is that the band is just waiting on Jim.
Or a band helping their friend make an awesome album.
for sure & this seems different than when they backed Ray. My point of view comes from the fact the rest of the band (not just 1-2 guys) has now recorded two albums with other singers so its not like they aren't available.
The guys weren't featured on Ray's album, were they? Just the backing band for tour? I think it was the exact opposite of the Strand of Oaks setup.
Your point about availability stands, of course.
Quote from: MOWJO8185 on Mar 27, 2019, 10:49 AMThe guys weren't featured on Ray's album, were they? Just the backing band for tour? I think it was the exact opposite of the Strand of Oaks setup.
Your point about availability stands, of course.
you're correct. I was mistaken regarding Ouroboros.
Quote from: MOWJO8185 on Mar 27, 2019, 10:49 AMThe guys weren't featured on Ray's album, were they? Just the backing band for tour? I think it was the exact opposite of the Strand of Oaks setup.
Your point about availability stands, of course.
Jim was the producer for Ouroboros I believe, so the whole band was involved with the project in some capacity.
I still say It Still Moves is MMJs Masterpiece.
Quote from: jttouch2 on Mar 27, 2019, 01:35 PMQuote from: MOWJO8185 on Mar 27, 2019, 10:49 AMThe guys weren't featured on Ray's album, were they? Just the backing band for tour? I think it was the exact opposite of the Strand of Oaks setup.
Your point about availability stands, of course.
Jim was the producer for Ouroboros I believe, so the whole band was involved with the project in some capacity.
On the record, though, it's mostly Jim's solo band--Givan, Kaufman, Ratterman, etc.