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Title: Strand of Oaks/MMJ album
Post by: Nikkogino on Jan 26, 2019, 07:40 PM
I know there is a thread about the new Strand of Oaks album in the other music thread, but in case some of you aren't aware, the new Strand of Oaks album features Tom, Carl, Pat, and Bo as the backing band.  This is a perfect combination of talent in my opinion, and this is the next best thing to a new MMJ album. The MMJ sound oozes out of this one and sounds like Steam Engine's distant cousin.  Can't wait to hear a true MMJ album, but until then, this will definitely do!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Mxn9iL3Bd-M
Title: Re: Strand of Oaks/MMJ album
Post by: ChiefOKONO on Jan 28, 2019, 04:06 PM
Thanks for the heads up, I will definitely have to check this one out!!!
Title: Re: Strand of Oaks/MMJ album
Post by: Jackets N Pones on Mar 13, 2019, 11:37 PM
Thanks for the heads up
Title: Re: Strand of Oaks/MMJ album
Post by: HardNightConformist on Mar 22, 2019, 08:52 PM
Man, do I ever wish Forever Chords was a MMJ song - Jim could've elevated this to another level and it could be a live show fixture that I could see extending beyond the 9 mins.
Title: Re: Strand of Oaks/MMJ album
Post by: Jackets N Pones on Mar 23, 2019, 01:50 AM
Like!
Title: Re: Strand of Oaks/MMJ album
Post by: Nikkogino on Mar 23, 2019, 02:02 PM
https://www.stereogum.com/2036496/strand-of-oaks-eraserland-tim-showalter-song-meanings/franchises/interview/

Excellent article for MMJ fans.  I loved the part where he talks about recording the one solo acoustic track and unknowingly was playing Jim's old acoustic guitar, and therefore brought Jim onto the record in a way.  This album is definitely part of MMJ lore now.  I also loved the part where he talks about messing up a part after the MMJ members nailed it and feeling inadequate compared to Jim.  No one is Jim...but Tim put together an excellent record here.
Title: Re: Strand of Oaks/MMJ album
Post by: Varitek on Mar 24, 2019, 01:37 AM
I've listened to this album 7 or 8 times since yesterday and it just keeps getting better to these ears of mine...
Title: Re: Strand of Oaks/MMJ album
Post by: Nikkogino on Mar 24, 2019, 09:34 AM
Quote from: Varitek on Mar 24, 2019, 01:37 AMI've listened to this album 7 or 8 times since yesterday and it just keeps getting better to these ears of mine...
So good.  Too bad this forum is dead...tons of MMJ talk to be had about this album.
Title: Re: Strand of Oaks/MMJ album
Post by: RobRoy286 on Mar 24, 2019, 10:36 AM
Quote from: Nikkogino on Mar 24, 2019, 09:34 AM
Quote from: Varitek on Mar 24, 2019, 01:37 AMI've listened to this album 7 or 8 times since yesterday and it just keeps getting better to these ears of mine...
So good.  Too bad this forum is dead...tons of MMJ talk to be had about this album.
Sorry but it just ain't MMJ without Jim. This actually seems real discouraging to me. More proof that everyone except Jim is down to play together. The guys create some great music, but it sucks that they're working with a different frontman while Jim is in la-la land. I hate to be a downer, this just doesn't strike me as MMJ talk.
Title: Re: Strand of Oaks/MMJ album
Post by: Nikkogino on Mar 24, 2019, 01:25 PM
Quote from: RobRoy286 on Mar 24, 2019, 10:36 AM
Quote from: Nikkogino on Mar 24, 2019, 09:34 AM
Quote from: Varitek on Mar 24, 2019, 01:37 AMI've listened to this album 7 or 8 times since yesterday and it just keeps getting better to these ears of mine...
So good.  Too bad this forum is dead...tons of MMJ talk to be had about this album.
Sorry but it just ain't MMJ without Jim. This actually seems real discouraging to me. More proof that everyone except Jim is down to play together. The guys create some great music, but it sucks that they're working with a different frontman while Jim is in la-la land. I hate to be a downer, this just doesn't strike me as MMJ talk.

It's obviously not MMJ without Jim, but the band is excellent here, and so is Tim.  4 of 5 members recording music in their home studio is definitely MMJ talk.
MMJ will get back together and it will be excellent.  I'd rather the guys make awesome music than sit on their hands waiting for Jim to come off his solo kick. 
Title: Re: Strand of Oaks/MMJ album
Post by: rincon2 on Mar 24, 2019, 05:11 PM
I have only heard the first song. It really reminded me of Israel Nash, who often sounds like a cross between Neil's Harvest, and ISM. Kind of a trip finding out the backing band is the same one Roger Waters once used at Newport.
Title: Re: Strand of Oaks/MMJ album
Post by: sillyboob on Mar 25, 2019, 12:08 PM
Just a heads up for those looking to buy it as a download - Amazon has it for $9.49 with the bonus track Cruel Fisherman (17 minutes long!), Bandcamp has it for $10 and it doesn't have the bonus track.
Title: Re: Strand of Oaks/MMJ album
Post by: MOWJO8185 on Mar 25, 2019, 12:43 PM
Quote from: sillyboob on Mar 25, 2019, 12:08 PMJust a heads up for those looking to buy it as a download - Amazon has it for $9.49 with the bonus track Cruel Fisherman (17 minutes long!), Bandcamp has it for $10 and it doesn't have the bonus track.

For as much as I like the album - and I liked it a LOT - Cruel Fisherman is nonsense. Droning abstract sound for 17 minutes. I'll be listening to the album without the bonus track.
Title: Re: Strand of Oaks/MMJ album
Post by: sillyboob on Mar 25, 2019, 01:43 PM
Quote from: MOWJO8185 on Mar 25, 2019, 12:43 PM
Quote from: sillyboob on Mar 25, 2019, 12:08 PMJust a heads up for those looking to buy it as a download - Amazon has it for $9.49 with the bonus track Cruel Fisherman (17 minutes long!), Bandcamp has it for $10 and it doesn't have the bonus track.

For as much as I like the album - and I liked it a LOT - Cruel Fisherman is nonsense. Droning abstract sound for 17 minutes. I'll be listening to the album without the bonus track.

Funny thing - I love that sort of noise track.  Probably because having some sort of background noise helps out tremendously with my tinnitus. 
Title: Re: Strand of Oaks/MMJ album
Post by: MOWJO8185 on Mar 25, 2019, 02:13 PM
Quote from: sillyboob on Mar 25, 2019, 01:43 PM
Quote from: MOWJO8185 on Mar 25, 2019, 12:43 PM
Quote from: sillyboob on Mar 25, 2019, 12:08 PMJust a heads up for those looking to buy it as a download - Amazon has it for $9.49 with the bonus track Cruel Fisherman (17 minutes long!), Bandcamp has it for $10 and it doesn't have the bonus track.

For as much as I like the album - and I liked it a LOT - Cruel Fisherman is nonsense. Droning abstract sound for 17 minutes. I'll be listening to the album without the bonus track.

Funny thing - I love that sort of noise track.  Probably because having some sort of background noise helps out tremendously with my tinnitus. 

There was a time in my life I thought stuff like that was cool. I just don't have the patience for it anymore. At least it is its own track at the end of the album and it can just be lopped off, as opposed to being the last 12 minutes of a track that starts as a song and then has another song after it (looking at you, Wilco's Less Than You Think).
Title: Re: Strand of Oaks/MMJ album
Post by: sillyboob on Mar 25, 2019, 03:27 PM
Quote from: MOWJO8185 on Mar 25, 2019, 02:13 PM
Quote from: sillyboob on Mar 25, 2019, 01:43 PM
Quote from: MOWJO8185 on Mar 25, 2019, 12:43 PM
Quote from: sillyboob on Mar 25, 2019, 12:08 PMJust a heads up for those looking to buy it as a download - Amazon has it for $9.49 with the bonus track Cruel Fisherman (17 minutes long!), Bandcamp has it for $10 and it doesn't have the bonus track.

For as much as I like the album - and I liked it a LOT - Cruel Fisherman is nonsense. Droning abstract sound for 17 minutes. I'll be listening to the album without the bonus track.

Funny thing - I love that sort of noise track.  Probably because having some sort of background noise helps out tremendously with my tinnitus. 

There was a time in my life I thought stuff like that was cool. I just don't have the patience for it anymore. At least it is its own track at the end of the album and it can just be lopped off, as opposed to being the last 12 minutes of a track that starts as a song and then has another song after it (looking at you, Wilco's Less Than You Think).

Definitely prefer having it as a separate track.  And yes, I was also thinking of Less Than You Think.
Title: Re: Strand of Oaks/MMJ album
Post by: parkervb on Mar 26, 2019, 10:03 AM
I think what we're seeing is that the band is just waiting on Jim.
Title: Re: Strand of Oaks/MMJ album
Post by: RobRoy286 on Mar 26, 2019, 10:07 AM
Quote from: parkervb on Mar 26, 2019, 10:03 AMI think what we're seeing is that the band is just waiting on Jim.
Yup :/
Title: Re: Strand of Oaks/MMJ album
Post by: Nikkogino on Mar 26, 2019, 08:06 PM
Quote from: parkervb on Mar 26, 2019, 10:03 AMI think what we're seeing is that the band is just waiting on Jim.
Or a band helping their friend make an awesome album.
Title: Re: Strand of Oaks/MMJ album
Post by: parkervb on Mar 27, 2019, 09:29 AM
Quote from: Nikkogino on Mar 26, 2019, 08:06 PM
Quote from: parkervb on Mar 26, 2019, 10:03 AMI think what we're seeing is that the band is just waiting on Jim.
Or a band helping their friend make an awesome album.
for sure & this seems different than when they backed Ray. My point of view comes from the fact the rest of the band (not just 1-2 guys) has now recorded two albums with other singers so its not like they aren't available.
Title: Re: Strand of Oaks/MMJ album
Post by: MOWJO8185 on Mar 27, 2019, 10:49 AM
The guys weren't featured on Ray's album, were they? Just the backing band for tour? I think it was the exact opposite of the Strand of Oaks setup.

Your point about availability stands, of course.
Title: Re: Strand of Oaks/MMJ album
Post by: parkervb on Mar 27, 2019, 12:20 PM
Quote from: MOWJO8185 on Mar 27, 2019, 10:49 AMThe guys weren't featured on Ray's album, were they? Just the backing band for tour? I think it was the exact opposite of the Strand of Oaks setup.

Your point about availability stands, of course.

you're correct. I was mistaken regarding Ouroboros.
Title: Re: Strand of Oaks/MMJ album
Post by: jttouch2 on Mar 27, 2019, 01:35 PM
Quote from: MOWJO8185 on Mar 27, 2019, 10:49 AMThe guys weren't featured on Ray's album, were they? Just the backing band for tour? I think it was the exact opposite of the Strand of Oaks setup.

Your point about availability stands, of course.
Jim was the producer for Ouroboros I believe, so the whole band was involved with the project in some capacity.
Title: Re: Strand of Oaks/MMJ album
Post by: Willard1979 on Mar 27, 2019, 08:56 PM
I still say It Still Moves is MMJs Masterpiece.
Title: Re: Strand of Oaks/MMJ album
Post by: robb on Mar 29, 2019, 08:15 AM
Quote from: jttouch2 on Mar 27, 2019, 01:35 PM
Quote from: MOWJO8185 on Mar 27, 2019, 10:49 AMThe guys weren't featured on Ray's album, were they? Just the backing band for tour? I think it was the exact opposite of the Strand of Oaks setup.

Your point about availability stands, of course.
Jim was the producer for Ouroboros I believe, so the whole band was involved with the project in some capacity.

On the record, though, it's mostly Jim's solo band--Givan, Kaufman, Ratterman, etc.