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Title: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: Mr. White on Apr 02, 2021, 10:23 PM
I thought I'd start a thread on the Coronavirus (Covid-19) vaccine(s).

I'm not sure anyone on here is interested in sharing their thoughts and opinions, but I thought I'd give it a space (thread) for discussion to include worries, experiences, articles/information, etc.

I got my first shot this past Monday, March 29, 2021. I got the Pfizer/BioNTech two dose vaccination. My arm was sore and still is a little bit after 4 full days (not too bad at all). My second shot is scheduled for April 26, 2021.

John Prine was with me today for my first Covid-19 vaccination shot. I just want to keep myself, my family, my friends, and all I come into contact with as safe as I possibly can. I'm tryin' John. I'm tryin'.

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Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: rkwedge on Apr 03, 2021, 02:19 AM
:thumbsup: Right there with you Mr White, I got my first dose of the Pfizer on 3/26 so just a few days ahead of you. My arm was slightly sore for about a day and that was it.  So awesome you wore your John Prine shirt that day. I also wish to keep everyone in my life safe and healthy. Let's hope we get a handle on this virus soon and can all rock out to some MMJ shows in the near future. R.I.P John Prine
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: iLikeBeer on Apr 03, 2021, 10:23 AM
I'm fully vaccinated as of March 26th!!! :thumbsup:  :beer:  I'm an assistant swim coach for our local high school so I got to get in with all of the educators a little early!  We got Phizer as well.

First shot made my arm a little sore (like someone punched me) but it was only for the first day.  My wife had a pretty bad reaction as her shoulder swelled up pretty good and she could barely lift her arm for the first day but she survived!

Second round went without any reaction other than I woke up a little achey all over but I took 3 tylenol and had a cup of coffee and I was good to go! 

As someone who doesn't get the flu vaccine, I did not even hesitate to get this one.  The way I look at it, anything to do my part to get things back to as close to normal as things were before I will gladly do! 
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: ericm on Apr 03, 2021, 11:23 AM
Good going Mr. White. 👍🏻

I got my 1st dose of the Pfizer vaccine on 3/8 and like others, only a bit of a sore arm for a day.

Got my 2nd dose this past Tuesday 3/30 and again a bit of a sore arm but this time around I experienced some fatigue for a couple of days. Definitely nothing major and a heck of a lot less side effects than some get but I'm usually pretty active so the fatigue was definitely noticeable and took me by surprise a bit.

One good thing was I sure slept good in the days after!  :grin:
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: ranyart on Apr 03, 2021, 06:23 PM
Betsy and I have both had our first with no ill effects and number two is scheduled for this coming Tuesday.  We live in Moderna land and we're not hearing anyone complaining about troubles.  Git 'r done!
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: Mr. White on Apr 06, 2021, 03:46 PM
Thanks for the words of encouragement and the experiences with the vaccine(s)!

I was very hesitant and/or reluctant to even get it, but I work with the public in my current job and have to come into contact with everyone who comes in to the place. Luckily, we are required to follow the safety protocol and mandates related to Covid-19 by the state of Kentucky. I have to remind people to wear their masks every now and then.

Also, my wife is a CNA at the nursing home that my mother lives in, so I have to think about them. The deciding factor was the fact that they are just now beginning to let family members make appointments to see their loved ones at the facility. I haven't seen her in person since March 27, 2020, other than through her room's window with me on the outside talking on the phone. I'm hoping the vaccine card will help me gain access to her room. Right now, they are saying only outdoor visits for 20 min. Also, I need to set up her new smart Roku TV soon. They can't seem to get her old one to work right. She really depends on her TV.

As for me and the vaccine, I hope I don't have any bad reactions or any long term complications related to getting it. I guess we'll see ...
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: walterfredo on Apr 07, 2021, 10:24 AM
I'm fully vax'd (moderna) arm was sore after first shot, and felt a tad lethargic about 24 hours after my second shot but all in all, pretty much no side effects.

I have never got a flu shot in my life, but this was a no-brainer for me. I want life back! And this seems like the obvious way forward.
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: ranyart on Apr 08, 2021, 08:29 PM
Second shot for us both showed arm pain and some ill effects similar to the flu, but it all cleared within a day or so and we're good to go.  I get a flu shot every year and I have never felt anything similar from it, and when I don't get it I am very likely to get really sick for days.  YMMV  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: ZMan on Apr 09, 2021, 11:13 PM
52 year old male, two weeks post second Pfizer shot. No complications from either shot, only a slight headache the day after due to one too many Captains.
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: sillyboob on Apr 10, 2021, 06:52 PM
Quote from: ZMan on Apr 09, 2021, 11:13 PM52 year old male, two weeks post second Pfizer shot. No complications from either shot, only a slight headache the day after due to one too many Captains.

Good to know.  48 year old male here, getting Pfizer shot 2 on Monday.  Hoping for minimal side effects.  My wife had chills, naseau, and a fever about a day after Pfizer shot 2.
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: Lucius on Apr 13, 2021, 02:23 PM
28 years old, living in the UK. I had the first vaccine about a month ago. I had the Oxford one which they're now not giving to people under 30 because of blood clots. The first one didn't kill me so I'm not too worried about the second :grin:

I actually had a bad reaction to the BCG vaccine when I was 11/12 and ended up with a condition called CIDP which is kind of similar to MS. I felt cautious ahead of this vaccine not knowing if my body might react badly again but it was all good. I actually could have opted out of the whole thing with minimal fuss but I wanted to have it. I'm so desperate for freedom! (Important to note that what happened to me could also happen from something as simple as catching a cold, don't let it put you off!)

I had a sore arm for a few days and felt kind of hungover but that was all. No big deal. My fingers are crossed for the return of live music in the UK this summer, got enough festivals and rescheduled indoor dates to keep me busy most weeks from August onwards :beer:
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: ranyart on Apr 13, 2021, 06:12 PM
Glad to hear it's working out for you Lucius!  I was unfamiliar with the BCG vaccine so I did some reading on it and see that it is for tuberculosis and that it sounds a bit more risky than the vaccines we are dealing with for Covid-19, so I'm happy you got past that experience and were able to get the Oxford jabs.  Enjoy your shows!
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: Mr. White on Apr 28, 2021, 09:58 PM
Got my 2nd dose of the Pfizer vaccine on Monday (about 53 hours ago) and so far, I've had no side-effects at all. My shot arm is a little bit sore but probably not even as sore as it was after the 1st shot. I think I'm gonna be all good.

My brother got his 2nd shot a couple of days before me, and he said he got the chills and had to cover up and sleep it off, about 24 hours after he got his shot. After he slept for a few hours, he felt much better. He also thinks he was probably sick with the virus way back in January of 2020. We've read and heard that the side-effects from the vaccine might be worse in those who have had Covid-19 in the past.
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: ranyart on Apr 29, 2021, 03:21 PM
Congratulations Mr. White and glad to hear that you got through them without trouble!  We are three weeks out from our second shots now and our reward was to eat lunch with my mom for the first time in a very long time last weekend.  It is amazing how liberating it feels to have them behind us.  Of course we're still being careful but it really does feel like there will be a time sooner than later when this mess will be behind all of us.

My thoughts go out to our Indian friends.  I work with a good number of Indians and everyone I talk to is scared, and I can't blame them.
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: ChiefOKONO on May 05, 2021, 02:42 PM
2 of us in our family got both doses with minimal side effects.  So far so good and I hope that as many people as possible get this vaccine!
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: slappymoe on Jul 29, 2021, 09:57 AM
So, with the delta variant surging, retuning mask mandates, and a country filled with moronic anti-vax deplorables, are we about to see a return to last year?  Life....and concerts....canceled?
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: rkwedge on Jul 29, 2021, 10:03 AM
Quote from: slappymoe on Jul 29, 2021, 09:57 AMSo, with the delta variant surging, retuning mask mandates, and a country filled with moronic anti-vax deplorables, are we about to see a return to last year?  Life....and concerts....canceled?
I've had the same thoughts/fears! "moronic anti-vax deplorables" I like this  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: sillyboob on Jul 29, 2021, 11:34 AM
Quote from: slappymoe on Jul 29, 2021, 09:57 AMSo, with the delta variant surging, retuning mask mandates, and a country filled with moronic anti-vax deplorables, are we about to see a return to last year?  Life....and concerts....canceled?

Man, I hate this possibility, or is it a probability.  Got so many shows lined up to see, so many cool places to go.  This virus sucks.
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: walterfredo on Jul 29, 2021, 11:44 AM
Quote from: slappymoe on Jul 29, 2021, 09:57 AMSo, with the delta variant surging, retuning mask mandates, and a country filled with moronic anti-vax deplorables, are we about to see a return to last year?  Life....and concerts....canceled?

entirely possible. Bordering on probable. Thank you to all you unvax'd f#cks.

Have tix to phish in Nashville in a few days and still skeptical it will actually happen.
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: slappymoe on Jul 29, 2021, 12:47 PM
Quote from: walterfredo on Jul 29, 2021, 11:44 AM
Quote from: slappymoe on Jul 29, 2021, 09:57 AMSo, with the delta variant surging, retuning mask mandates, and a country filled with moronic anti-vax deplorables, are we about to see a return to last year?  Life....and concerts....canceled?

entirely possible. Bordering on probable. Thank you to all you unvax'd f#cks.

Have tix to phish in Nashville in a few days and still skeptical it will actually happen.
just bought tix for the stones in Nashville October 9, all the while wondering if I was just wasting my time.
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: ranyart on Jul 29, 2021, 02:05 PM
At this point, at least here in the good old USA, I don't think there's any will to go back to lockdown/shutdown mode, and I'm not seeing venues canceling any shows so it would probably be up to the individual bands to cancel them and I have little doubt that would cost bands some $$$ which they aren't going to be willing to let go of.  Combine that with the fact that musicians and fans are all chomping at the bit for some live in person fun and my money is on full steam ahead and damn the torpedoes for shows in general.
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: Mr. White on Jul 29, 2021, 04:36 PM
I have a job that has "high exposure to the public", so this morning I discussed re-masking up with my wife (she works at a nursing home and still wears a mask while there). I decided to start wearing my mask(s) again. My boss said she was glad I had made that decision. She said another facility like ours a couple of counties away had vaccinated employees catch the virus, so they have had to close temporarily.

The following is the most recent "recommendation" list of what to do locally here in Kentucky.

"To protect against the spread of coronavirus and the delta variant, Kentucky shared mask recommendations:

 - Unvaccinated people should wear a mask indoors
 - Those at high risk should wear a mask indoors, even if vaccinated
 - Vaccinated people working jobs with high exposure to the public should consider wearing a
   mask

 - All unvaccinated people should get vaccinated immediately."
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: ranyart on Jul 29, 2021, 05:56 PM
Betsy is a school counselor and registration starts next week with students following not too far behind.  We have not heard a final answer from the administration on what the rules are going to be, but in any case she's pretty much expecting to be wearing a mask all the time again while she is indoors.  Our county just moved into the substantial spread zone so in theory the school board should require masks for everyone, so we'll see which direction they pick.
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: parkervb on Jul 30, 2021, 09:51 AM
Quote from: ranyart on Jul 29, 2021, 02:05 PMAt this point, at least here in the good old USA, I don't think there's any will to go back to lockdown/shutdown mode, and I'm not seeing venues canceling any shows so it would probably be up to the individual bands to cancel them and I have little doubt that would cost bands some $$$ which they aren't going to be willing to let go of.  Combine that with the fact that musicians and fans are all chomping at the bit for some live in person fun and my money is on full steam ahead and damn the torpedoes for shows in general.

yup. This is why we're starting to see the mandates. Mandates aren't being that well received but imagine how lockdowns would go over?
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: MOWJO8185 on Jul 30, 2021, 03:26 PM
I think unless hospital capacity gets in a really bad way we are infinitely more likely to see vaccine mandates at shows than full-on cancellations. Which is fantastic for me, I'm pretty comfortable with my vaxxed 35 year old self going to shows and being safe regardless, but knowing I'm only surrounded by smart people would be a nice added bonus.
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: ranyart on Aug 11, 2021, 11:39 AM
I have to admit I was surprised to see the New Orleans Jazz Fest reschedule again although I totally understand why they did.  Betsy's first day with students is today.  Cases are way up in our county and sounds like our hospital is full so school starting at this moment is probably not the best thing but at least the school board decided to require everyone to mask up.
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: walterfredo on Aug 12, 2021, 12:54 PM
I need a shirt that reads "I went to see phish in Nashville and all I got was covid"  :undecided:

Seriously though, fully vax'd since May, tested positive on Tuesday. That said, this was all on me, I made poor choices and am dealing with the consequences of them. Felt totally safe at the shows, and while obviously don't know know the where/whens of it all, acted a fool and fell in line with my surroundings...went into numerous packed bars unmasked (in the south!) over the course of nearly a week. Moving forward I will still go to shows, but will curtail my pre/post show activities until numbers are better. The numbers are insane right now. Cases in FL are at the highest level at any point EVER! That is whack. Be safe out there fans!

I also feel like the vax is doing it's thing as I would classify by symptoms (so far) as fairly mild compared to what others have experienced.
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: rkwedge on Aug 12, 2021, 01:03 PM
Quote from: walterfredo on Aug 12, 2021, 12:54 PMI need a shirt that reads "I went to see phish in Nashville and all I got was covid"  :undecided:

Seriously though, fully vax'd since May, tested positive on Tuesday. That said, this was all on me, I made poor choices and am dealing with the consequences of them. Felt totally safe at the shows, and while obviously don't know know the where/whens of it all, acted a fool and fell in line with my surroundings...went into numerous packed bars unmasked (in the south!) over the course of nearly a week. Moving forward I will still go to shows, but will curtail my pre/post show activities until numbers are better. The numbers are insane right now. Cases in FL are at the highest level at any point EVER! That is whack. Be safe out there fans!

I also feel like the vax is doing it's thing as I would classify by symptoms (so far) as fairly mild compared to what others have experienced.
That sucks walterfredo, hope everything continues to be mild for you.  I get it, you get lulled into a false sense of security and it prays on that. Best of luck to you and stay safe everybody!
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: ranyart on Aug 12, 2021, 01:23 PM
Sorry to hear your news walterfredo!  Here's hoping there is no long term trouble that comes from it.  So far the posse I know that went to the Phish shows outside of Indy are doing fine but they didn't do any pre/post show bar hopping and pretty much stuck to their campsite for the whole weekend, and of course the shows were all outside.

As Colonel Kilgore said "Some day this war's gonna end".  It's going to take patience and determination though, and unfortunately some folks have run out of both (or never had it in the first place).
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: parkervb on Aug 12, 2021, 01:32 PM
i was chatting with a buddy who had Pfizer vax and got a breakthrough case with symptoms like lethargy, headaches and loss of sense of smell. He told they've said the Pfizer vax is less effective vs Delta.

I am going to AC this weekend, I'm 100% masking up anywhere indoors and when in conversations but hope I can find some space where I can take it off for some of the show.

Genuine thank you to Walter for sharing this cautionary tale with us, you didn't have to but its a good lesson for us to hear. I hope you're feeling 100% again soon!
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: ranyart on Aug 12, 2021, 01:45 PM
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/entertainment/music/2021/08/12/string-cheese-incident-cancels-shows-louisville-due-covid/8108666002/ (https://www.courier-journal.com/story/entertainment/music/2021/08/12/string-cheese-incident-cancels-shows-louisville-due-covid/8108666002/)

At one point we were thinking about going to one of these shows.  What a freaking mess!!!
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: iLikeBeer on Aug 16, 2021, 01:01 PM
Quote from: ranyart on Jul 29, 2021, 05:56 PMBetsy is a school counselor and registration starts next week with students following not too far behind.  We have not heard a final answer from the administration on what the rules are going to be, but in any case she's pretty much expecting to be wearing a mask all the time again while she is indoors.  Our county just moved into the substantial spread zone so in theory the school board should require masks for everyone, so we'll see which direction they pick.

My wife teaches 2nd grade and I have 3 girls in HS and our local school board did vote for a mask mandate for all students and staff.  Expectedly, the retrumplicans are outraged that our school board would actually be looking out for the safety of it's children and have begun a petition to cancel the mask mandate?!?!  They state that masks are unsafe for their children to wear?!?!  These people are utter morons!!!  We even have some of these retrumplican parents who are now petitioning to have their names on the ballots to run for school board in the next election.  What a fucking shit show this is?!?!  Anyways, school starts in 3 days here in OH and the board is holding an emergency meeting tonight to hear arguments for and against the mask mandate.  I have my popcorn in hand!!!  :beer:

Also, I have tix to see Dead and Co in about a month and I'm beginning to wonder if this will happen??? :undecided:
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: ranyart on Aug 16, 2021, 05:43 PM
School is going about as well as can be expected here.  Masks are required for everyone in the building and folks are complying and only one person has been sent home for refusing.  Cases are raging here of course and one of the school systems in the are has closed and gone virtual for a couple of weeks.  Sound like about 10-15% of our school is out for positive cases or close contact so hopefully everyone does their best to keep the train on the tracks for as long as possible!

Best of luck to your gals iLikeBeer and maybe we'll cross paths at D&C...
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: Mr. White on Aug 17, 2021, 07:41 PM
Edit from another post in another thread about vaccinations required to attend select MMJ shows that I feel I should post here instead in order to avoid extra drama and all that stuff (deleted the other one).

I'm finally able to visit my mother in the nursing home (that's just a half mile from my house) for the first time since March of 2020. I have to wear their facemask (over my own cloth one) and now a clear plastic face shield in order to go in (plus temperature checks and filling out several pages of documentation each and every time). I've seen her 10 times over the past 5 weeks. If things get much worse, I'm pretty certain they will cut off those visits. Those reluctant to get the vaccination are welcome to stay at home, in my opinion. Just ... stay at home. Order out and do remote learning/work/visiting of friends, but don't ruin things further for those of us doing our part to slow this pandemic and hopefully see it come to an end. After all, freedom isn't total and 100% in anything we do in life. As for concerts, they are not a right but merely a privilege. If you'd like to partake in that privilege, then do your duty.

Just as an aside, as they say, why aren't people calling it the "trump warp speed vaccine"? That's what is, so why not make the far-right-wing-extremists own up to their hero's legacy?
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: ranyart on Aug 18, 2021, 02:31 PM
Just got this in my work email (company name removed to protect the innocent).  The survey had three choices (yes/no/not saying) and I would love to know what other questions were asked for the no/not people (if any)...

"Within the last few days, three of our long-standing customers have notified us that they are mandating proof of vaccination before any individual, including their employees and employees of business partners such as our company, will be allowed to arrive on site and enter their facilities.

While this mandate does not come as a complete surprise, given the new world order that COVID has spawned, it does present a series of complex and competing priorities that we need to navigate for the collective good of our company, our people, and our customers.

First and foremost, we respect your individual right regarding personal health decisions on whether or not you choose to get vaccinated. There are multiple arguments, some factual and some not so much, being contested on both sides of this issue. What we can say with certainty is that our company will not insert itself into what you decide as your best course of action regarding your confidential, personal health decision(s).

However, our corporate stance does intersect with your personal health decision when we have customers mandating proof of vaccination before they will allow our employees (you) into their facilities to perform on site delivery of our services.

Which brings me to the crux of the issue. All of us have a role to fulfill as we operate our company with our collective goal to expertly provide great service to our customers. You've probably heard me say it before, but without our customers, we don't collect the critical revenue that we use to pay our people's salaries, bonuses and health coverage. The bottom line is that without our customers, we don't have a business.

Therefore, our first order of priority will be to honor the requirements of our customers, which means we need to report to them the vaccination status of our people assigned to perform on site work at their facilities.

In order to understand the percentage of our employee base that would be able to comply with this type of request, our Health Services group is confidentially tracking voluntarily provided vaccination status of our employees. We are requesting you to complete this survey regarding your vaccination status, which will remain confidential."
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: Lonndown27 on Aug 31, 2021, 12:40 PM
Quote from: ranyart on Aug 18, 2021, 02:31 PMJust got this in my work email (company name removed to protect the innocent).  The survey had three choices (yes/no/not saying) and I would love to know what other questions were asked for the no/not people (if any)...

"Within the last few days, three of our long-standing customers have notified us that they are mandating proof of vaccination before any individual, including their employees and employees of business partners such as our company, will be allowed to arrive on site and enter their facilities.

While this mandate does not come as a complete surprise, given the new world order that COVID has spawned, it does present a series of complex and competing priorities that we need to navigate for the collective good of our company, our people, and our customers.

First and foremost, we respect your individual right regarding personal health decisions on whether or not you choose to get vaccinated. There are multiple arguments, some factual and some not so much, being contested on both sides of this issue. What we can say with certainty is that our company will not insert itself into what you decide as your best course of action regarding your confidential, personal health decision(s).

However, our corporate stance does intersect with your personal health decision when we have customers mandating proof of vaccination before they will allow our employees (you) into their facilities to perform on site delivery of our services.

Which brings me to the crux of the issue. All of us have a role to fulfill as we operate our company with our collective goal to expertly provide great service to our customers. You've probably heard me say it before, but without our customers, we don't collect the critical revenue that we use to pay our people's salaries, bonuses and health coverage. The bottom line is that without our customers, we don't have a business.

Therefore, our first order of priority will be to honor the requirements of our customers, which means we need to report to them the vaccination status of our people assigned to perform on site work at their facilities.

In order to understand the percentage of our employee base that would be able to comply with this type of request, our Health Services group is confidentially tracking voluntarily provided vaccination status of our employees. We are requesting you to complete this survey regarding your vaccination status, which will remain confidential."

scary stuff...
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: Mr. White on Aug 31, 2021, 02:48 PM
Update on my mother's nursing home restrictions:
They stopped allowing outside visitation last week. They had a resident get the Coronavirus from their husband who was visiting (and had the virus). She got it, had to be transferred to the hospital and later died. Another resident has it and has also been transferred out. They dis-allowed any outside visitors to the facility. My wife, who is a CNA there, has had to attend to the remaining residents who are infected with the virus but not bad enough to require hospitalization (made to wear extra PPE). Things are getting much worse in Kentucky and in my county particularly. I went to the grocery store on Sunday to get just a couple of items, and not a single worker had on a mask, and only one or two customers had one on. My county also lags way behind the state's average as far as vaccinated people goes. I recently saw a clip of Little Donnie Tiny Hands urging his cult members to get the vaccine saying he did and that it works. They didn't seem to like him hawking his "trump-warp-speed-vaccine" very much. Seems his baby was dead on arrival, so to speak. Anyway, have a good time out there, all you good people (and you know who you are) but be safe. I'm trying here at work. I'm trying.
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: Mr. White on Sep 13, 2021, 01:13 PM
Well, I feel I need to update this thread for a number of reasons.

First, I started it so we could have a place to come together and discuss what we know, what we want to know, how things are changing, to share about our own experiences, and to be able to provide updates on those we know and love (not just stuff we saw/read on the Interweb).

So ... I got the Coronavirus, and so did my wife (we had both been fully vaccinated). This is my first day back to work after the 10 day Isolation Period (starting on the first day of symptoms). I'm not sure where we got the virus from, but there were a couple of opportunities for us to have been exposed a while back. My wife is a Certified Nurse Aid (CNA) at the nursing home just up the road from our house (worked there for 20 years now). The night of the MMJ Railbird Festival show (8/28/2021), my wife had to work with a Coronavirus patient that hadn't been tested yet. He got tested the next night and was positive for the virus. So, there's that (probably the highest chance that's where we got it). She had to wear extra PPE the next night she worked with him. Also, I went to a concert for the first time in 1 year and 6 months. There were 30,000 tickets sold for that day. All concert goers were supposed to be tested before coming to the show (had to show proof that it was within 72 hours of the first day of the festival) or been fully vaccinated (I was). I rode up to the show with a friend and his wife from their house in Frankfort, Kentucky (both had been fully vaccinated as well). I decided not to wear a mask the whole day. I only talked to a hand-full of people the entire day and thought I was pretty careful in general. Also, I have a job where I come into contact with every patron who enters the establishment where I work. I am still trying to keep a safe distance and all that stuff. With all that being said, it is still unknown where we got the virus, but I'd say there is a higher chance it came from my wife working with a Covid-19 patient ... but who knows for sure.

Anyway, I think our symptoms were not too bad since we had both been vaccinated (at least that's what the two different pharmacy employees said when I spoke to them on the phone at different times and places). We both had sniffles, runny nose, sinus pressure and headache, tiredness, fatigue, brain fog, felt/feel disoriented, slight chest pressure when breathing deeply, loss of taste and smell, and a low fever. Plus, after about 4 or 5 days, my wife had two days where she had nausea and couldn't keep food down and had to go to bed very early. We did feel like doing some yard work over the end of our Isolation Period and got a good bit done. It just took us a while longer, and we needed lots of extra breaks. I don't know what the long-term effects will be. I'm still having upper-respiratory problems that make me cough from time to time. I still have sinus pressure resulting in ears being somewhat clogged, making my hearing a bit less because of the balance of pressure (that is an issue I've been battling since I was 10 years old). We are still very tired and lethargic. I don't have a lot of physical stress in my job, and I can take breaks if I need them. My wife can't. She goes back to work this Friday. I'll keep you all posted as to any new concerns or if we make a speedy recovery.

Also, a family friend and former Kentucky State Representative from my hometown got the Coronavirus (after being fully vaccinated) and was hospitalized and later died (I wrote about this person on my Instagram page that I'll link here. His name was Brent Yonts.)
https://www.instagram.com/p/CSsspSHsKcW/
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: sillyboob on Sep 13, 2021, 02:23 PM
Just want to send you my best thoughts on a speedy and full recovery for both you and your wife Mr. White. 
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: ChiefOKONO on Sep 13, 2021, 02:58 PM
All the best for a quick recovery Mr. White and the Mrs. !!!
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: Mr. White on Sep 13, 2021, 03:25 PM
Quote from: Mr. White on Sep 13, 2021, 01:13 PMWell, I feel I need to update this thread for a number of reasons.

First, I started it so we could have a place to come together and discuss what we know, what we want to know, how things are changing, to share about our own experiences, and to be able to provide updates on those we know and love (not just stuff we saw/read on the Interweb).

So ... I got the Coronavirus, and so did my wife (we had both been fully vaccinated). This is my first day back to work after the 10 day Isolation Period (starting on the first day of symptoms). I'm not sure where we got the virus from, but there were a couple of opportunities for us to have been exposed a while back. My wife is a Certified Nurse Aid (CNA) at the nursing home just up the road from our house (worked there for 20 years now). The night of the MMJ Railbird Festival show (8/28/2021), my wife had to work with a Coronavirus patient that hadn't been tested yet. He got tested the next night and was positive for the virus. So, there's that (probably the highest chance that's where we got it). She had to wear extra PPE the next night she worked with him. Also, I went to a concert for the first time in 1 year and 6 months. There were 30,000 tickets sold for that day. All concert goers were supposed to be tested before coming to the show (had to show proof that it was within 72 hours of the first day of the festival) or been fully vaccinated (I was). I rode up to the show with a friend and his wife from their house in Frankfort, Kentucky (both had been fully vaccinated as well). I decided not to wear a mask the whole day. I only talked to a hand-full of people the entire day and thought I was pretty careful in general. Also, I have a job where I come into contact with every patron who enters the establishment where I work. I am still trying to keep a safe distance and all that stuff. With all that being said, it is still unknown where we got the virus, but I'd say there is a higher chance it came from my wife working with a Covid-19 patient ... but who knows for sure.

Anyway, I think our symptoms were not too bad since we had both been vaccinated (at least that's what the two different pharmacy employees said when I spoke to them on the phone at different times and places). We both had sniffles, runny nose, sinus pressure and headache, tiredness, fatigue, brain fog, felt/feel disoriented, slight chest pressure when breathing deeply, loss of taste and smell, and a low fever. Plus, after about 4 or 5 days, my wife had two days where she had nausea and couldn't keep food down and had to go to bed very early. We did feel like doing some yard work over the end of our Isolation Period and got a good bit done. It just took us a while longer, and we needed lots of extra breaks. I don't know what the long-term effects will be. I'm still having upper-respiratory problems that make me cough from time to time. I still have sinus pressure resulting in ears being somewhat clogged, making my hearing a bit less because of the balance of pressure (that is an issue I've been battling since I was 10 years old). We are still very tired and lethargic. I don't have a lot of physical stress in my job, and I can take breaks if I need them. My wife can't. She goes back to work this Friday. I'll keep you all posted as to any new concerns or if we make a speedy recovery.

Also, a family friend and former Kentucky State Representative from my hometown got the Coronavirus (after being fully vaccinated) and was hospitalized and later died (I wrote about this person on my Instagram page that I'll link here. His name was Brent Yonts.)
https://www.instagram.com/p/CSsspSHsKcW/

Thanks sillyboob and ChiefOKONO!

I'm in the last 3 hours of my first day back and am doing pretty good. Last week, we had Monday off because of the holiday. I had to be off from Tue. through Friday to Isolate. I thought I'd have to take sick days, but my supervisor said they had approved up to 10 Covid-19 days off before having to take sick days or vacation days, so that's good news. It's the opposite with my wife. She has to use up all her PTO or Paid Time Off (sick/vacation days) earned before OSHA would begin picking up some of her hours.

I also forgot to mention that this has all been a "game changer" for me as they say. I had been keeping up with a lot of the literature related to the Coronavirus and the vaccines and all that, but now I don't know what to think. My wife and I are one of a growing category. We are "Break-Through Cases" of the Coronavirus because we actually got sick with symptoms after having been fully vaccinated. I've heard our "immunity" to the virus should be the highest level now since we had been vaccinated and caught the virus and survived. However, maybe that's bullshit, and we are at the same exact risk we were at before we got sick. Who knows?!? I'm still masking up here at work (most who have had the vaccine aren't) with the exception of the one guy who doesn't want to take it (he has remained masked the entire time ... he has his mother who works with us and an elderly father with health issues to worry about). I'll be re-evaluating my life, my future, and our lives going forward. One thing is for sure, this time we've all been suffering through, coupled with the most recent sickness and Isolation has given my wife and I a renewed sense that we need to retire soon and spend much more time at our little house in our little town with our little issues and concerns. We are pretty good at that anyway but need to refocus on the "Here and Now" of it all. All in all, with all that's happened, "Music Heals". It always has, and it always will. Thank you My Morning Jacket and all the family, friends, and fans out there (in here).
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: ranyart on Sep 13, 2021, 05:50 PM
So sorry to hear your latest update Mr. White, but I'm glad the vaccines seemed to have helped keep the troubles tamped down especially the truly horrible ones.  The chaos a virus can cause is simply amazing - it's so damn small and simple yet terribly effective.  We've been watching old Star Trek episodes and it's funny to see how many of the plots relate to virus troubles.

It drives me nuts to hear stories like your wife's about employers who screw people out of PTO for situations like this, especially for healthcare workers and even more especially because sounds like she likely caught it at work.  I'm glad to hear that your employer is more reasonable and that the two of you are on the mend slowly but surely, and that your first day back at work is going good.

We were at Dead & Co. Saturday night and all I can say is it was surreal.  The place was packed and people were passing joints to strangers acting like nothing is going on, and the pre concert checks were not very thorough which did not give me a good feeling at all so we'll see what happens.  Our little group was being very good but not so much for most everyone else.  But it was good to be with friends and we were able to keep some space so hopefully that's good enough to stay out of trouble.  And it will probably be the last time I see D&C because frankly they were pretty bad overall - zero energy.

Not sure how this is going to end up and when the waves of this crap finally stop.  Until then it's going to be a wild ride.
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: rkwedge on Sep 14, 2021, 10:15 AM
Dang Mr. and Mrs. White, I hate to hear this. Sending positive energy your way for getting better and having no long term affects. From your posts, it sounds like you guys were doing all the right things and being very careful and it still found you. This thing is just way to unpredictable, so stay safe everybody and don't let your guard down. If it happened to Mr. White it can happen to any of us. Thanks for keeping us updated Mr. White, things everybody should know. Take Care!
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: ChiefOKONO on Sep 14, 2021, 04:18 PM
Yes indeed, I totally appreciate all of the details in your posts Mr. White.  Cheers to a full recovery very soon!
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: Mr. White on Oct 27, 2021, 08:57 PM
I guess I need to give a quick update since it's been since 9/13/2021 for my last one. I seem to be doing real well. I've got most if not all my strength back. I've been feeling pretty good and stronger for a couple of weeks now. My sinuses still aren't totally back to my usual normal, but they are a lot better, and I can get my ears to balance out the pressure to a better degree. This thing with my ears has been with me since I was a pre-teen, so I am highly aware of any changes. I have to have my musical ears!!! My wife seems to be pretty much back to normal. She hasn't had any nausea or other issues. However, she still seems to have less energy (we're getting older though). I don't have as much trouble with my balance or my dizziness or memory/forgetting stuff like simple words or phrases to where you had to search for what you wanted to say, but it isn't totally gone. I think my wife may have slightly more problems with the searching for what you wanted to say stuff. As far as wanting or needing or even going out to get the next available booster shot goes ... I still don't know yet. We were Breakthrough Cases, so we have some added immunity in our system, I guess. I think we will play the wait and see game for the next several months. My mother who is in the nursing home had the booster shot the other day and said her arm hurt. So far, she hasn't had any side effects. We'll have to keep an eye on the local positivity rate (been going down pretty good here in Kentucky for the past couple of weeks, and our county has been out of the red zone for a while). I don't really want to take the booster, if it's not really necessary, and I hope the CDC doesn't do what some predict by "moving the goalposts" on us and saying "Fully Vaccinated" will require even more shots. I'd more than likely call BULLSHIT and totally retreat from society for a while, concerts be damned (mind you, I won't bitch and complain but will say so long to concerts and other events for a while without a problem). Hopefully that won't come to pass. I've had my shots. I've had the motherfucking virus. I'm fucking done ... I hope.
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: crooney on Oct 28, 2021, 10:13 AM
So what would you have preferred?  That a vaccine wasn't developed to combat Covid?  Just let the virus run wild and cross our fingers that we can beat it on our own?

If you are the same MamaKel, I admire your past contributions to this forum.  But I'm confused by this rant.
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: ranyart on Oct 28, 2021, 06:47 PM
Glad to hear things are looking better for you and your wife Mr. White.  We hear a lot about vaccine stuff at work and they are still struggling with getting the first dose going so I seriously doubt anyone is moving the target to include boosters anytime soon.

MamaKel I agree the medical industrial complex that has been developed in the USA is truly crazy, especially since we literally pay 3 times what the rest of the world pays for crappier outcomes and we still have millions of folks that get essentially zero medical care.  But then I think about how far things have progressed over my lifetime and beyond and I have to believe that we're generally moving in the right direction.  Things will get better especially once the brunt of this virus mess is truly behind us.
Title: Re: Covid-19 Vaccine
Post by: Mr. White on Oct 29, 2021, 10:30 AM
medicament
[ muh-dik-uh-muhnt, med-i-kuh- ]
noun
a healing substance; medicine; remedy.
ORIGIN OF MEDICAMENT
1535–45; <Latin medicāmentum remedy, physic, equivalent to medicā(rī) to cure + -mentum-ment. See medicate

vaccine
[ vak-seen or, especially British, vak-seen, -sin ]
noun
any preparation used as a preventive inoculation to confer immunity against a specific disease, usually employing an innocuous form of the disease agent, as killed or weakened bacteria or viruses, to stimulate antibody production.
the virus of cowpox, used in vaccination, obtained from pox vesicles of a cow or person.
a software program that helps to protect against computer viruses, as by detecting them and warning the user.
adjective
of or relating to vaccination.
of or relating to vaccinia.
of, relating to, or derived from cows.

I am not a doctor, nor do I play one on TV, but I am a "Word Guy" (Follower of such other word guys like George Carlin & spent 20 years as an educator), so I like to know the meanings of words that I've only heard once or twice in my life. "Medicament" is a drug or substance used in treatment of an ailment. "Vaccine" is a substance used in an attempt to prevent someone from contracting an ailment.