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Re: DANGER! - Political Thread
« Reply #240 on: Oct 11, 2017, 03:11 PM »
albeit with a little help from Comey and Russia.
Come on John!  You can't really still think this was anything but a wholesale repudiation of Hillbilly (and her mysoginist pedophile husband) who also happens to be a hapless leader (check with the families of the Benghazi victims on that one) who lies to cover her own ineptitude!  How do you like Bernie's new houses and that multiple 100K car he tools around in while failing to pay his staff minimum wage?  Meanwhile our wonderful commander in chief is refusing his salary in favor of trying to get Anerica back on track for Americans first.
You're THAT gullible?

http://www.snopes.com/bernie-sanders-audi-8/
John--SNOPES has been debunked as unreliable c'mon man
By who? Answer: everyone, which suggests to me they are dismissed by folks like you who get their weak points exposed as bullshit.

http://www.snopes.com/info/notes/politics.asp

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/04/snopescom/
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« Reply #241 on: Oct 11, 2017, 03:12 PM »
just wow.  but pretty typical for lots of unfounded Clinton "facts" get thrown around when people ask basic and honest questions about our current President's behavior and abilities (or lack thereof). 

I'd love to hear MMJ Fanatic provide a detailed response outlining the great things Trump has accomplished in 9 months as President.  I'll wait. 

And don't forget the parts about international stability, championing successful legislation, and setting an example for leadership throughout the world?  Oh, and please let's not forget about how he supports racial equality and is so effective in pulling American's together as a people - that's surely going to be the best part!


How about destroying ISIS with improved rules of engagement?  How about superb disaster response to 3 different hurricane sites?  How about putting himself out there to meet and support the massacre survivors in Las Vegas?  How about policies that are kickstarting the economy and knocking unemployment numbers down to an 8 year low?  How about policies that have put >$4 trillion back into our economy.  Iknow this all news to lots of people who only watch things like the daily show or this week with John watever-his-name-is but hey are just some of the impacts President Trump has had in just 8 months

yeah, I'm sure tossing paper towels into the press pool saved lots of lives in PR.  And there's nothing any President can do to change the economy in 9 months, so you're pulling that out of your arse (FYI - Trump's first Federal Budget year just started, so Obama's policies have driven any and ALL statistics until about a month ago).

I'm not going to get sucked into this any further, man - I just feel sad that you're somehow inclined to defend Trump - and how this squares with being a fan of Jim James baffles me.
You're flat wrong--he's made many changes the economy is responding positively too--go check Stuart Varney's website if you think the 4+ trillion number is a figment. 
Not sure what you're smoking to issue a comment like that about being a fan and being conservative but opinions, as they say, are like assholes--"if you wanna come off like one feel free to attack people personally when you disagree with facts they present that challenge your vesion of reality"
I've been here on this forum and promoting MMJ a lot longer than you so you can take your judgment about me as a fan a shove it all the way to your molars.
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Re: DANGER! - Political Thread
« Reply #242 on: Oct 11, 2017, 03:13 PM »
albeit with a little help from Comey and Russia.
Come on John!  You can't really still think this was anything but a wholesale repudiation of Hillbilly (and her mysoginist pedophile husband) who also happens to be a hapless leader (check with the families of the Benghazi victims on that one) who lies to cover her own ineptitude!  How do you like Bernie's new houses and that multiple 100K car he tools around in while failing to pay his staff minimum wage?  Meanwhile our wonderful commander in chief is refusing his salary in favor of trying to get Anerica back on track for Americans first.
You're THAT gullible?

http://www.snopes.com/bernie-sanders-audi-8/
John--SNOPES has been debunked as unreliable c'mon man
By who? Answer: everyone, which suggests to me they are dismissed by folks like you who get their weak points exposed as bullshit.

http://www.snopes.com/info/notes/politics.asp
They are flat unreliable and biased :
https://wearechange.org/shady-fact-checking-sources-snopes-politifact-debunked/
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Re: DANGER! - Political Thread
« Reply #243 on: Oct 11, 2017, 03:23 PM »
Not sure one sentence reminding people of the moral and at times political views of MMJ constitutes "rambling". Also, goodbye.
It's Jim's opinion, which he's entitled too, but doesn't mean he's necessarily correct.
keep that thought in mind when you're saying things like liberal think is a mental disease...

Sorry but all these posts insinuating that fans of the band who hold the same views politically as the band does are somehow magically superior to those who have differing opinions is just ridiculous and specious.  The point of this site (used to be) celebrating the greatness of this magical group and it worked.  Somewhere the site decided to let this type of thread in and that the majority of forums ban:  political threads.  Nuff said let's all get back to MMJ love
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Re: DANGER! - Political Thread
« Reply #244 on: Oct 11, 2017, 03:41 PM »
FYI, I've merged the two political threads into this one.

I agree that political discourse, or whatever these last few days have been, might not be welcomed on a forum dedicated to My Morning Jacket. However, the 1st Amendment exists and many fans of MMJ are politically active and opinionated.

As always, keep it respectful and keep it here.

Oh, and Trump sucks bigly!

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Re: DANGER! - Political Thread
« Reply #245 on: Oct 11, 2017, 03:44 PM »
"Is Trump Smart Enough To Be President?
Drumpf decided to continue attacking Republican Senator Bob Corker, now he's getting personal. Cenk Uygur breaks it down on The Young Turks. Tell us what you think in the comment section below. Take our poll here: https://tytnetwork.com/25th/

"Over the weekend, President Drumpf was accused by a Republican senator of running the White House like a ďreality show.Ē In the 48 hours that followed, this is how the president refuted the characterization.

He called out the offending senator for being short and sounding like ďa fool.Ē He challenged his secretary of state to an I.Q. contest and insisted he would win. He celebrated the downfall of a critic who was suspended from her job. And his first wife and third wife waged a public war of words over who was really his first lady.

Mr. Drumpfís West Wing has always seemed to be the crossroads between cutthroat politics and television drama, presided over by a seasoned showman who has made a career of keeping the audience engaged and coming back for more. Obsessed by ratings and always on the hunt for new story lines, Mr. Drumpf leaves the characters on edge, none of them ever really certain whether they might soon be voted off the island."



Here are Cenk's comments from the last 3 minutes of this video.

"Cenk Uyugar Ė Quote on 10/10/2017  - Speaking directly to the Republican establishment/power structure/politicians as a warning about the danger Little Donnie Tiny Hands poses to the whole world (in light of Republican Senator Bob Corker making critical remarks about him and stating that Drumpf is setting us off on the path to WWIII and must be stopped.): ďWeíre not kidding, and your gonna see it, and itís gonna be the thing that Iím most upset Iím right about. Heís gonna do something monstrous. Thatís who he is. He has no bounds. There is no bottom to the barrel. He has no intellect whatsoever. Heís gonna do something monumentally stupid that is going to hurt the whole planet. I mean forget the fact that heís already done it on a long-term path with Climate Change etcetera. Iím not talking about that, and Iím not talking about regular politics. You are underestimating how stupid he is. You are underestimating what a sociopath he is. He is going to do something that is going to hurt the whole world. It is going to be inarguable. It isnít about politics. You gotta get him out. Tick-Toc, Tick-Tock! Are you kidding me!? Mike Pence is actually way more conservative than Donald Drumpf. Mike Pence is way more competent than Donald Drumpf. Mike Pence might actually get some conservative ideas passed. Iím telling you, go to Mike Pence. This isnít about politics. This is about this guy that is gonna ruin millions of lives. I hope to God Iím wrong, but Iím not.Ē
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Re: DANGER! - Political Thread
« Reply #246 on: Oct 12, 2017, 12:41 PM »
just wow.  but pretty typical for lots of unfounded Clinton "facts" get thrown around when people ask basic and honest questions about our current President's behavior and abilities (or lack thereof). 

I'd love to hear MMJ Fanatic provide a detailed response outlining the great things Trump has accomplished in 9 months as President.  I'll wait. 

And don't forget the parts about international stability, championing successful legislation, and setting an example for leadership throughout the world?  Oh, and please let's not forget about how he supports racial equality and is so effective in pulling American's together as a people - that's surely going to be the best part!


How about destroying ISIS with improved rules of engagement?  How about superb disaster response to 3 different hurricane sites?  How about putting himself out there to meet and support the massacre survivors in Las Vegas?  How about policies that are kickstarting the economy and knocking unemployment numbers down to an 8 year low?  How about policies that have put >$4 trillion back into our economy.  Iknow this all news to lots of people who only watch things like the daily show or this week with John watever-his-name-is but hey are just some of the impacts President Trump has had in just 8 months

yeah, I'm sure tossing paper towels into the press pool saved lots of lives in PR.  And there's nothing any President can do to change the economy in 9 months, so you're pulling that out of your arse (FYI - Trump's first Federal Budget year just started, so Obama's policies have driven any and ALL statistics until about a month ago).

I'm not going to get sucked into this any further, man - I just feel sad that you're somehow inclined to defend Trump - and how this squares with being a fan of Jim James baffles me.
You're flat wrong--he's made many changes the economy is responding positively too--go check Stuart Varney's website if you think the 4+ trillion number is a figment. 
Not sure what you're smoking to issue a comment like that about being a fan and being conservative but opinions, as they say, are like assholes--"if you wanna come off like one feel free to attack people personally when you disagree with facts they present that challenge your vesion of reality"
I've been here on this forum and promoting MMJ a lot longer than you so you can take your judgment about me as a fan a shove it all the way to your molars.

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Re: DANGER! - Political Thread
« Reply #247 on: Oct 12, 2017, 01:08 PM »
millerjustin, seems the white supremacist sympathizer/enabler who keeps denigrating people who don't seem to want to jump on the racist/nationalistic bandwagon they are espousing is having a moment of psychic crisis/breakdown right now. They are engaging in a lot of projection. I've never tried to brag on here as to what kind of super-fan I may or may not be, however, they seemed to be convinced that my simple comments reminding them (and anyone else who might not know or remember) that all the members of MMJ (and most of the bands, friends, family members they hang out with) are against racist, sexist, xenophobic, bigoted, Drumpf. I was making this point to emphasize the fact that dogging and degrading the mass amount of MMJ fans on here who are either liberal, left-leaning, or even Progressive, is suggesting they are idiots and fools and need to forget what they know to be the truth and fall in line with the new racist ideology that has gained temporary control of our national government. I never said I'm a superior fan or even mentioned anything remotely approaching this. I never said I was better than anyone else or have done anything to support MMJ more than them. Seems they were heavily involved with the early promotion and success of MMJ (said so in a couple of posts/replies), so I must bow to their seniority.
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Re: DANGER! - Political Thread
« Reply #248 on: Oct 12, 2017, 01:40 PM »
millerjustin, seems the white supremacist sympathizer/enabler who keeps denigrating people who don't seem to want to jump on the racist/nationalistic bandwagon they are espousing is having a moment of psychic crisis/breakdown right now. They are engaging in a lot of projection. I've never tried to brag on here as to what kind of super-fan I may or may not be, however, they seemed to be convinced that my simple comments reminding them (and anyone else who might not know or remember) that all the members of MMJ (and most of the bands, friends, family members they hang out with) are against racist, sexist, xenophobic, bigoted, Drumpf. I was making this point to emphasize the fact that dogging and degrading the mass amount of MMJ fans on here who are either liberal, left-leaning, or even Progressive, is suggesting they are idiots and fools and need to forget what they know to be the truth and fall in line with the new racist ideology that has gained temporary control of our national government. I never said I'm a superior fan or even mentioned anything remotely approaching this. I never said I was better than anyone else or have done anything to support MMJ more than them. Seems they were heavily involved with the early promotion and success of MMJ (said so in a couple of posts/replies), so I must bow to their seniority.

I've got to get back to work but will revisit this a bit later.

yeah, apparently getting into MMJ first totally rationalizes any viewpoint and belligerent behavior, right? 

Thanks Mr. White - we're on the same page buddy.  No need to engage with this fool any more.  The most likely ironic part is that he's advocating against his own self-interests and/or overcompensating for inherent racist leanings (and/or Trump-like hands lol)
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Re: DANGER! - Political Thread
« Reply #249 on: Oct 12, 2017, 04:06 PM »
The thing is, I've always liked MMJ_fanatic as a Jacket fan and Forum pal. He's a fellow New Englander and I'm pretty sure we've met before. We can still use our shared love of MMJ as the basis of a friendship, despite disagreeing about politics.

Still, this is a My Morning Jacket fan forum, and the band is politically active. Having one thread to contain political discussions and debate seems reasonable.

One thing I've learned is that even liberals need to get out of their bubble, try to coax conservatives out of theirs, and have a dialog to find common ground. I don't believe the mainstream media is "fake", but we should free ourselves from 24 hour "Breaking News" and listen to each other... with love and respect.
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« Reply #250 on: Oct 12, 2017, 04:42 PM »
The thing is, I've always liked MMJ_fanatic as a Jacket fan and Forum pal. He's a fellow New Englander and I'm pretty sure we've met before. We can still use our shared love of MMJ as the basis of a friendship, despite disagreeing about politics.

Still, this is a My Morning Jacket fan forum, and the band is politically active. Having one thread to contain political discussions and debate seems reasonable.

One thing I've learned is that even liberals need to get out of their bubble, try to coax conservatives out of theirs, and have a dialog to find common ground. I don't believe the mainstream media is "fake", but we should free ourselves from 24 hour "Breaking News" and listen to each other... with love and respect.

AMEN John!  thx for the reminder - I wasn't being the person Jim knows I can be lol
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Re: DANGER! - Political Thread
« Reply #251 on: Oct 13, 2017, 12:29 AM »
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« Reply #252 on: Oct 20, 2017, 02:33 AM »
Most of us believe that this is wrong.

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« Reply #253 on: Dec 12, 2017, 10:38 PM »
Well done Alabama! It appears only 49% of you want a pedophile...who thinks homosexuality should be a crime, and Muslims should be banned from the govt, and that all the amendments after the 10th should be repealed...representing you. Impressive.

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« Reply #254 on: Jan 22, 2018, 04:04 PM »



And there's nothing any President can do to change the economy in 9 months,

I'm not going to get sucked into this any further, man - I just feel sad that you're somehow inclined to defend Trump - and how this squares with being a fan of Jim James baffles me.



I live in Albany - feel free to stop by any time and we can finish this discussion in person.

Again you're just flat wrongg--all of the policy changes he's brought, taking the handcuffs of industry has done nothing if not build the consumer confidence and drive these market surges--my 401k is a testimony. 
As far as where you live--I could give a shit.  I live in Oxford MA whoo hoo come get me snowflake

The whole point about fandom was you all attacking me for having my own opinions, that don't necessarily line up with Jim James and "How can you possibly be a fan".....well that's a bullshit attack as big as any liberal bullshit attacke I've ever heard.  Try read back in the thread before attacking to maybe see where I was trying to persuade the staff here to avoid political threads as so many of the other forums I visit do, so we can focus on the band, their greatness, and wonder of good music
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« Reply #255 on: Jan 22, 2018, 04:06 PM »


Sorry but all these posts insinuating that fans of the band who hold the same views politically as the band does are somehow magically superior to those who have differing opinions is just ridiculous and specious.  The point of this site (used to be) celebrating the greatness of this magical group and it worked.  Somewhere the site decided to let this type of thread in and that the majority of forums ban:  political threads.  Nuff said let's all get back to MMJ love

Here's just a reminder
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« Reply #256 on: Jan 22, 2018, 08:34 PM »
if you're happy with the current state of our economy, and the health of your 401K, you can thank the Obama administration.

Trump inherited a healthy, strong economy surging upward. Just like Obama inherited an economy in shambles which had nothing to do with him and everything to do with the previous administration. Of course Trump likes to take credit for it. He likes to take all credit for the good things, and blame the past administration for all the not-so-good things.

Anyhow, we should be thankful for the previous administration for the current health of our economy.

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« Reply #257 on: Jan 23, 2018, 06:57 AM »
if you're happy with the current state of our economy, and the health of your 401K, you can thank the Obama administration.

Trump inherited a healthy, strong economy surging upward. Just like Obama inherited an economy in shambles which had nothing to do with him and everything to do with the previous administration. Of course Trump likes to take credit for it. He likes to take all credit for the good things, and blame the past administration for all the not-so-good things.

Anyhow, we should be thankful for the previous administration for the current health of our economy.

INCORRECT  All the executive orders and industry restricitions Obummer put in place was choking off industry.  With the measures President Trump has taken the markets are feeling more confident about Ameircan industry now that companies are bringing jobs back to the states period, but by all means fantasize that the community organizer who's never run a business magically fixed the economy by choking  off industry with regulation good luck.  P.S.--remember Hillary saying she was going to kill coal jobs, well Guess what?  PRESIDENT Trump prevented that and is even hading their keys back to them so thay can run full throttle.
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« Reply #258 on: Jan 23, 2018, 10:25 AM »
Why I even responded, I do not know. Clearly you know better than the majority of respected economists.

Let me guess, all these scientists are wrong about climate change too?

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Re: DANGER! - Political Thread
« Reply #259 on: Jan 23, 2018, 09:55 PM »
I thought that one dude that was so pissed off that politics is even allowed to be discussed here on this Forum would be the last person to come on here doing the very same thing ... again. Guess I was wrong.

That's why I'll go ahead and post this here once more.

Hope it makes a difference ... but probably not. PEACE!!!

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