The Walking Dead Thread (Spoilers Ahead)

[el_chode]

looking forward to daryl the indian zombie hunter developing more.  hope he bones carol soon.

If by bones, you mean shoots with an arrow, I agree.

I thought Rick made the right choice. I wonder what the fallout will be.

The women in this show need a strong leader and need to stop being emotionally driven impulsive asshats who fuck it up for everyone. Every good show needs a female heroine.

[Sticky Icky Green Stuff]

looking forward to daryl the indian zombie hunter developing more.  hope he bones carol soon.

If by bones, you mean shoots with an arrow, I agree.

I thought Rick made the right choice. I wonder what the fallout will be.

The women in this show need a strong leader and need to stop being emotionally driven impulsive asshats who fuck it up for everyone. Every good show needs a female heroine.

that's what michonne's role is.  she rivals rick in the comic for level of bad ass. 

[megalicious]

looking forward to daryl the indian zombie hunter developing more.  hope he bones carol soon.

If by bones, you mean shoots with an arrow, I agree.

I thought Rick made the right choice. I wonder what the fallout will be.

The women in this show need a strong leader and need to stop being emotionally driven impulsive asshats who fuck it up for everyone. Every good show needs a female heroine.

agreed 100%.

"oh, my husband and glenn are out trying to find herschel in a zombie-ridden wasteland of a town, so the most logical thing i can do is hop in a car and find the boys myself! oh, and let me make sure my pregnant ass doesn't pay attention to the road, either!"

>:(

[Jaimoe]

The scene in the bar was the most natural, honest, tense and best acted and written in the entire disappointing series. More of this and less of pointless and mostly ungrounded hostility between the underwritten living characters please! C'mon defenders, who didn't see it coming with Lori reading a road map while driving in a countryside full of zombies? 

[el_chode]

The scene in the bar was the most natural, honest, tense and best acted and written in the entire disappointing series. More of this and less of pointless and mostly ungrounded hostility between the underwritten living characters please! C'mon defenders, who didn't see it coming with Lori reading a road map while driving in a countryside full of zombies?

See we all knew what was gonna happen when she inexplicably just had to leave. Maybe I missed it, but what was the imminent emergency that necessitated her going out to a town she didn't know how to find to speed things up? What was she doing to do that Rick couldn't?

Also, I doubt the countryside full of zombies. That would require actual zombies during the filming of a show about zombies, not the remnants of last season's zombies.

Agreed about the rest. I was thinking, "WWE[l]C[hode]Do?" and I would be offering/demanding to hear an offer or compromise from the other side (depending if I was the one seeking refuge or in Rick's shoes).

If I'm Rick, I want to know what they're willing to do for me if I do this for them (those guys offered nothing but suspicion as probable rapists/the darkside of humanity that is revealed when all hope is lost).

If I'm the one talking to Rick, I put forth an offer, like "hey, just give us 3 days to get our bearings. I will not ask for an extension unless you offer it to me. In return, I'll be a hired gun for all scouting missions, no questions asked/bake you a pie/something to let them know I"m a normal human being"

In other news, that would be the best route for the show to explore now - what is it to be human vs zombie? Are a bunch of humans with no moral compass any better/worthy of living in this world than the zombie they are escaping?

[Devil Ledbetter]

The scene in the bar was the most natural, honest, tense and best acted and written in the entire disappointing series. More of this and less of pointless and mostly ungrounded hostility between the underwritten living characters please! C'mon defenders, who didn't see it coming with Lori reading a road map while driving in a countryside full of zombies?

Lori's accident will undoubtedly follow the tired old "accident causes convenient miscarriage" TV trope. When she miscarries, that will be the end of Rick's last best hope for convincing Hershel to let them stay on the farm. Which is great because the farm is played out.

I enjoy this show but honestly it's a straight up soap opera. It just has the great added tension of "and zombies might show up anytime." Lori pees on her EPT, not knowing whether Shane or Rick is the father ... but zombies could show up. There's an awkward meal inside Hershel's house ... but zombies could show up.  Glen and Maggie have sex at the pharmacy ... but zombies could show up. It works, because it works.

Anyone else notice the heavy-handed symbolism on the T-shirt the head bad guy at the bar was wearing?

[johnnYYac]

I can't argue with most of what's been said.  I'm hoping Rick, Glen, and Hershel come upon the overturned car to find Lori being munched upon by the walker she nailed with the car... poetic justice and more in line with the comic than the convenient miscarriage.

[Sticky Icky Green Stuff]

The scene in the bar was the most natural, honest, tense and best acted and written in the entire disappointing series. More of this and less of pointless and mostly ungrounded hostility between the underwritten living characters please! C'mon defenders, who didn't see it coming with Lori reading a road map while driving in a countryside full of zombies?

well, besides the dumb lori moment, the episode was awesome.  even the dumb lori moment to me was sweet because they launched that car.  who cares about the miscarriage bullshit, she could be dead already.  her storming off was because that was the second time she got bitched at for asking somebody else to go do something for her.  first maggie and then daryl.   not saying it was sweet or anything just saying her character did have motivation to go get rick and hershel.  beth had that stroke or whatever it was thus the need to get the only doctor left on earth.  hershel.

the final scene was great, the first time rick had to murder some people.  hershel losing his faith and then finding it again in Rick after Rick stands up for the farm and takes down Dave and Tony.  if they leave the farm it's going to be because it's not safe anymore, not because they're forced off.  they've spent the first 6episodes intergrating hershels family into the show.  the story is in a state of constant metamorphosis.  they showed a trailer for next week and apparently the philly boys weren't alone.  whoever they're with, which is unknown pins them down in the bar or some shit.  hershel is armed and they're bracing the door.  but not because of zombies.  shits going down people.  it's all about the finales.  hold tight.  there will be tanks and helicopters and machine guns and groups of crazy people and rapists and cannibals and all sorts of shit.  trust no one.  the truth aint out there, just zombies and evil.  there is no resolve to this story either really other than a characters death.  it's not like world war z where civilization recovers at the end. 

fuckin haters.

[Sticky Icky Green Stuff]

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[Jaimoe]

I'm not a "hater" SIGS. I find the series flawed and it comes down mostly to writing. Some of the dialogue is cringe-worthy and some of the support characters are under-written. And none of the women characters are interesting. The plots are fine for the most part. I think the producers made poor decisions in killing off two great one or two-off characters such as Otis and the main bar dude from Philly, who was also terrific in True Blood.

[Sticky Icky Green Stuff]

I'm not a "hater" SIGS. I find the series flawed and it comes down mostly to writing. Some of the dialogue is cringe-worthy and some of the support characters are under-written. And none of the women characters are interesting. The plots are fine for the most part. I think the producers made poor decisions in killing off two great one or two-off characters such as Otis and the main bar dude from Philly, who was also terrific in True Blood.

I sorta understand where you're coming from.  did you say you've read the comics or not yet?

The only character I think they missed the mark with is Andrea.  she's suppose to be a hot little piece of ass not some chick in her 40's with a lot of plastic surgery.   

I'm glad Dave got toasted in the bar.  they would have raped or killed some people for sure if they were taken back to the farm.  Rick knew that and had to light them up. 

Otis makes it to the prison in the comic but isn't really that sweet and sophia hasn't died yet in the comic so things are a lot different.  Shane shouldn't be alive, he's fucking up everything.  that dog needs to be put down.

as for the strong female role.  you'll have to wait until next season since andrea has turned out to blow:

[Eweezy]

I'm not a "hater" SIGS. I find the series flawed and it comes down mostly to writing. Some of the dialogue is cringe-worthy and some of the support characters are under-written. And none of the women characters are interesting. The plots are fine for the most part. I think the producers made poor decisions in killing off two great one or two-off characters such as Otis and the main bar dude from Philly, who was also terrific in True Blood.

I sorta understand where you're coming from.  did you say you've read the comics or not yet?

The only character I think they missed the mark with is Andrea.  she's suppose to be a hot little piece of ass not some chick in her 40's with a lot of plastic surgery.   

I'm glad Dave got toasted in the bar.  they would have raped or killed some people for sure if they were taken back to the farm.  Rick knew that and had to light them up. 

Otis makes it to the prison in the comic but isn't really that sweet and sophia hasn't died yet in the comic so things are a lot different.  Shane shouldn't be alive, he's fucking up everything.  that dog needs to be put down.

as for the strong female role.  you'll have to wait until next season since andrea has turned out to blow:

Michonne, Baby!  They don't get much stronger than her.  I keep hearing though we will see her for the first time in the finale.

[johnnYYac]

The key to a safe zombie... you got to de-jaw 'em!

[Devil Ledbetter]

The only character I think they missed the mark with is Andrea.  she's suppose to be a hot little piece of ass not some chick in her 40's with a lot of plastic surgery.   

I agree.

Also, in the books Lori is a lot bitchier, IMO. And she's bad enough in the series. Ugh.

I'm not a hater, though. I've read books 1-4 of the series and am addicted to the show.

[el_chode]

Ok it's getting much better. And Laurie just pulled a Livia Soprano. Shane is toast.

[Devil Ledbetter]

Ok it's getting much better. And Laurie just pulled a Livia Soprano. Shane is toast.

That chick sets women's lib back 20 years every time she opens her stupid gob. If she wants Shane dead she should put him away herself, not manipulate Rick into doing it.

What a twit.

Yeah, it's good. At least they didn't go the predictable accident/miscarriage route.

[el_chode]

Ok it's getting much better. And Laurie just pulled a Livia Soprano. Shane is toast.

...

Yeah, it's good. At least they didn't go the predictable accident/miscarriage route.

Yet...

[Sticky Icky Green Stuff]

Ok it's getting much better. And Laurie just pulled a Livia Soprano. Shane is toast.

...

Yeah, it's good. At least they didn't go the predictable accident/miscarriage route.

Yet...

I'm 98percent positive she's not going to miscarry the baby. 

[johnnYYac]

I have to say, I was rooting for the windshield zombie!  Laurie will die.  Why not at the hands of the walker she nailed with the car?  That would be a stunner and I could live without her.  Would set up a showdown between Rick and Shane, to be settled by Carl.  Now, I'm not so sure.  They've strayed from the comic quite a bit.

[Sticky Icky Green Stuff]

I have to say, I was rooting for the windshield zombie!  Laurie will die.  Why not at the hands of the walker she nailed with the car?  That would be a stunner and I could live without her.  Would set up a showdown between Rick and Shane, to be settled by Carl.  Now, I'm not so sure.  They've strayed from the comic quite a bit.

same world, different timeline.  love how hershel is like an army doctor fixing people up on the battlefield.  underrated character, imo.