Occupy Wall Street

[el_chode]

Here's why I am generally anti-union in the current state of things:

The salary of the police officer who sprayed the UC students:

$110,000

http://www.sacbee.com/statepay/salary-details/?firstname=John&lastname=Pike&totalpay=107792.2&agency=UC+Davis

The salary of an Assistant Professor at UC Davis:

$64,000

http://www.sacbee.com/statepay/salary-details/?firstname=Nathan&lastname=Brown&totalpay=66244.96&agency=UC+Davis

Now, please feel free to bitch at me if I'm wrong, but professors are not unionized in the same way as public school teachers, correct?

While unions are good for organizing against unfair labor practices, they are not to be used to milk taxpayers and create an artificial job market.

[Nevermind90]

The Global R(evol)ution-2011-Occupy Love (New)

another nice video

[Sticky Icky Green Stuff]

Here's why I am generally anti-union in the current state of things:

The salary of the police officer who sprayed the UC students:

$110,000

http://www.sacbee.com/statepay/salary-details/?firstname=John&lastname=Pike&totalpay=107792.2&agency=UC+Davis

The salary of an Assistant Professor at UC Davis:

$64,000

http://www.sacbee.com/statepay/salary-details/?firstname=Nathan&lastname=Brown&totalpay=66244.96&agency=UC+Davis

Now, please feel free to bitch at me if I'm wrong, but professors are not unionized in the same way as public school teachers, correct?

While unions are good for organizing against unfair labor practices, they are not to be used to milk taxpayers and create an artificial job market.

I think there are some down sides to the bigger union's like the UAW and whatever.  but at the same time unions only make up like 7-14percent of the jobs out there or whatever.  I'm on nyquil and sick so I'm spacy as shit right now.  i work at my dad's printing company and there are only 4 of us who work there.  a chick in the office who answers phones, an old dude who does deliveries and me and my pops who print the shit.  we're a union shop, I've got a pension and all that jive but for the most part it's exactly the same as when I worked at a non-union window washing company.  we do work for other union shops but it's not like we hook them up over our other customers or anything.  we're priced low as fuck right now because of private companies that do printing online and all sorts of shit right now.  the post office could fuck us if it goes down because we do a lot of envelope orders and shit. 

it's definitely a power grab attempt for big business trying to dissolve these unions.  if you want to see how bad shit can get do some reading about detroits current situation.  we'll be broke by april, no later than june so they're cutting thousands of jobs, bleeding the pensions people have worked years to build up, etc. 

and when you dissolve a union it's not sporadic choosing the people that you get rid of either, it's 100's of people at a time, often all from the same communities. 

all I know is when we try and get union work usually we have to put in a bid to go up against other companies.  there's no secret handshake or anything like that.  it's business.   

as sad as it is I'm pretty ignorant to the downsides of unions so it's always interesting to hear what up.   as far as I can tell they're doing more good than bad.   they gave us the weekend, they gave us a minimum wage, they eliminated child labor, etc. 

with all the problems going down the last people we should blame and punish for it are teachers or firefighters or whomever.   seems like the classic example of big business picking on the little guy.  alright I'm not sure if what I said even made sense I feel like I'm robo-trippin.

[Sticky Icky Green Stuff]

all that said, I agree with your point about those police choders.  fuck the police, fuck them hard dude.   we waste so much fucking money on those bitches.  they're over armed.  over funded and have too much power.  it really does feel like they want to protect insurance companies more than people.

[ALady]

Here's why I am generally anti-union in the current state of things:

To be fair, choder, those are two very different professions.  Let's not blame unions for that particular gap in the pay scale.

[e_wind]

Police pepper spraying and arresting students at UC Davis

this seems to be quite the hot talk in recent occupy business. its sad/true that until authority steps out of line nothing major happens.

being campus police, I'm sure the action the see is minimal. I guess they just got too damn excited that people were noticing them.

[Tracy 2112]

I am beginning to come around (i.e. this is starting to make sense to me)

Amy Goodman & Chris Hedges With Charlie Rose Exploring the Occupy Movement

http://newparadigmdigest.com/6951/amy-goodman-chris-hedges-with-charlie-rose-exploring-the-occupy-movement/

[el_chode]

Here's why I am generally anti-union in the current state of things:

To be fair, choder, those are two very different professions.  Let's not blame unions for that particular gap in the pay scale.

I agree they are different, but as a matter of labor markets, I do not think one is worth six figures and it is artificially inflated due to a bargaining position that many others do not have access to. That is not right.

Or in other words, their proper role is to act as shields against the swords of unfair practices, not the other way around.

[Jaimoe]

The cops are possibly kicking out the remaining protestors still entrenched in St. James Park in downtown Toronto at some point overnight, making work for me a living hell. I have to cut out of programming for live news hits every half hour and then fly by the seat of my pants in switching back to shows while keeping things on time before the Breakfast TV morning news program begins at 5am. This will not look pretty.

[darkglow]

Ron Paul Town Hall Gets Occupied