Annoying Concert Behavior

[kholl44]

The only problem you run into with assigned seating (at least up front) is that you would then see people who 'lucked' into the good seats (like the 'handicapped' seating in row 1) that may not care about Jacket as much as those behind them talking through songs and such. I noticed this in Nashville last summer when MMJ was one of the first acts to play the new Ascend Amphitheater. I was in assigned seating in row 5 and it really pissed me off to see people in front of me sitting down and talking during the show.

[Stevie]

It's a catch 22.. if you make it all assigned seating, you avoid some problems but then say goodbye to having the entire collection of MMJ super fans all in one group at the very front (which I think really makes the band feel at home especially at big venues like that, and is a great experience for all those in-line-at-7am-freaks... i'm with you guys in spirit but i just can't wait in line all day like that, however i'm always getting a kick out of watching ya'll go nuts) 

[Santo]

Between the coordinated line holding, waves of people rushing the gate and the blanket towns created to save spots for dozens of late comers, the early entry line can feel like a Black Friday riot. Though it is fun to sit back and make fun of it all.

[BigHerm]

Between the coordinated line holding, waves of people rushing the gate and the blanket towns created to save spots for dozens of late comers, the early entry line can feel like a Black Friday riot. Though it is fun to sit back and make fun of it all.

This perfectly describes my experience Saturday. The guy that rolled out a 20 ft piece of carpet was impressive.

Watching it from afar on Sunday was far more enjoyable.


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[Fartsmakemegiggle]

First time at Red Rocks, went to both shows. The venue was fantastic (sound wise/view) and the shows were great,  but to commiserate, I can't believe this thread exists because it is spot on.

I'm from NJ so I've seen a lot of shows in Philly and NY where the reputation is generally rough/tough crowds. But I think the crowd at Red Rocks might have been worse, and might have been worse than I've ever been to. I couldn't believe in this historic/cool venue their is ZERO security checking tickets and making sure people are where they are suppose to be.

Also, I've never heard so much talking during a performance. After reading this thread, I didn't realize that locals probably go regardless of the band just because it's a party. But the constant chatter didn't stop. Also, I know it's bench seating with long rows but the amount of people coming and going during songs is insane. I've never seen that before. Very distracting.

I agree with the post that making the venue GA and Reserved causes issues. Make it one or the other. I didn't pay extra on stub hub to have a seat for my pregnant wife so that I had to constantly ask people to move just so I could b in the seat I paid for. Oh yeah, don't wear shorts either, because on BOTH nights I had a full beer spilled on my legs from the row behind me. Also, on Saturday the guy next to my wife fell over, twice and knocked into her. I'm all about positivity but it took everything I had to not punch the guy in the face after the second time. He was apologetic both times but still. Have some regard for other people (and is there a need for a 40ish year old guy, who's at a concert alone, to get so drunk he can't stand? Anyone reading this far: You have to b conscious of other people and hitting them and knocking into them, especially women, because you might not realize they are 9 weeks pregnant with twins).
I could go on but I'll cut it short. Beautiful venue, unbelievably rude people .

[Lonndown27]

First time at Red Rocks, went to both shows. The venue was fantastic (sound wise/view) and the shows were great,  but to commiserate, I can't believe this thread exists because it is spot on.

I'm from NJ so I've seen a lot of shows in Philly and NY where the reputation is generally rough/tough crowds. But I think the crowd at Red Rocks might have been worse, and might have been worse than I've ever been to. I couldn't believe in this historic/cool venue their is ZERO security checking tickets and making sure people are where they are suppose to be.

Also, I've never heard so much talking during a performance. After reading this thread, I didn't realize that locals probably go regardless of the band just because it's a party. But the constant chatter didn't stop. Also, I know it's bench seating with long rows but the amount of people coming and going during songs is insane. I've never seen that before. Very distracting.

I agree with the post that making the venue GA and Reserved causes issues. Make it one or the other. I didn't pay extra on stub hub to have a seat for my pregnant wife so that I had to constantly ask people to move just so I could b in the seat I paid for. Oh yeah, don't wear shorts either, because on BOTH nights I had a full beer spilled on my legs from the row behind me. Also, on Saturday the guy next to my wife fell over, twice and knocked into her. I'm all about positivity but it took everything I had to not punch the guy in the face after the second time. He was apologetic both times but still. Have some regard for other people (and is there a need for a 40ish year old guy, who's at a concert alone, to get so drunk he can't stand? Anyone reading this far: You have to b conscious of other people and hitting them and knocking into them, especially women, because you might not realize they are 9 weeks pregnant with twins).
I could go on but I'll cut it short. Beautiful venue, unbelievably rude people .

thats awful sorry bro! i hope the power of the Jacket helped though man!

[pagerage]

You all are describing why most people like red rocks. Sit up top if you don't want in the madness. Light show is better that way too :)

[ericm]

You all are describing why most people like red rocks. Sit up top if you don't want in the madness. Light show is better that way too :)

Bullshit!

No one likes having their space crashed at a show regardless of the venue. While it might be expected in a ga section, I don't know anyone who appreciates that shit. It's definitely not "liked" by people who try to avoid it by buying a reserved seat. No excuse for that kind of behavior at a show IMO, and if the reasoning is everyone does it, then those doing it need to grow the hell up.

[pagerage]

crash my space anytime ericm

[ericm]

crash my space anytime ericm

Haha. Well played.   

I take back my "no one" comment because clearly you're one who doesn't mind space crashers. I might take you up on holding a spot for me but I'll pass on just outright crashing your space. It's just not cool IMO and not my thing. Can't do it. 

You do bring up a good point though. If friends try to make room to squeeze in another friend, and don't  mind sharing their space, that's different. It's not really crashing someone's space if you're invited. I think most people including me don't like perfect strangers crashing their space uninvited, and acting like it's an accepted thing and ok to do.

[Shug]

The sound in the back HALF of Red Rocks is often shitty because of the wind.  Some people don't care that much about sound quality, but to me it takes precedence over sight lines, being up close, and really just about everything.  I'm there for the SOUND of MUSIC!

People should not have to go to back half just to avoid rude selfish behavior from strangers who really should be treating each other as neighbors, or better yet, as brothers and sisters.

[rincon2]

I arrived at noon on Sunday. My sons job was to run ahead of me to get the best center seats available. When I reached him he was about 6th row stage left. I immediately said, not good enough, and walked right down to an open spot, second row center. 3 times people tried to worm into our area. Security, being 10 feet away and directly in front of me, disposed of them immediately each time, except for when I went to the bathroom during gideon, and one of the Mrs. Millers came down to fill my spot and hang with Alex. I almost felt like there was some divine intervention leading me to those unbelievable seats, when everything else was filled. My best concert ever, of any band.

[gardenparty]

About the handicapped section...it is interesting to hear there weren't handicapped people in them

When looking for tickets a few months ago there were "row one - handicapped" tickets available on stub hub for $100 each.  I called to inquire if they were handicapped only, as it was only mentioned in small print.  They basically told me I could buy them if I wanted and didn't need to prove I was handicapped. They just said security may give me a hard time when I got there.  I chose not to buy them because it just didn't feel right but damn, maybe I should have purchased a couple front row seats for $100 after all

[beardedwonder]

My buddy and I sat 2nd row center on night 1. And row 12 Jim side on night 2. I can concur that there were near zero handicapped in the front of the stage.

My experience was great at RR minus the cigarette smoking. To me thats the biggest character defect in a concert goer. The crowd/situation felt very tame - which I was grateful for - but Im also from the NE. We had two thick 6'3 dudes sit in front of us on night 2, I'm 5'9 and my buddy shorter, and we were super pumped for the riser height between rows. No obstruction at all! The weather was near perfect. And zero traffic leaving the venue either nights. Could not believe that.

Also I was very stoked on the entire VIP experience. Easy ticket pickup. Poster is freakin awesome, was in a poster holder AND signed which I did not know about. Fa get about it. Then roped off seats for night 2 so we did not have to wait in roll call line. Perfect!

Will definitely return!

[Fartsmakemegiggle]

You all are describing why most people like red rocks. Sit up top if you don't want in the madness. Light show is better that way too :)

Bullshit!

No one likes having their space crashed at a show regardless of the venue. While it might be expected in a ga section, I don't know anyone who appreciates that shit. It's definitely not "liked" by people who try to avoid it by buying a reserved seat. No excuse for that kind of behavior at a show IMO, and if the reasoning is everyone does it, then those doing it need to grow the hell up.

This guy gets it. I like you

[ruralt]

You all are describing why most people like red rocks. Sit up top if you don't want in the madness. Light show is better that way too :)

I went up to the very top for night 2, thinking I would avoid the bullshit of night 1, and still had the same problems. There isn't a section of the venue that is immune to dickheads.

[MMJ612]

Seen MMJ 20 plus times and Red Rocks far and away has the most inconsiderate fans. Flew in from Mpls night one and got in line at 3:30. Bunch of d-bags rushed to the front ignoring the line and we ended up in row 16. I loved the concert and had a great time, but based on where we were in line we should have been much much closer.

Night 2 decided to skip the line because of night 1 experience. We got there around 6:15 and got in with early entry around row 23.  People in front of us turned 2 seats into 6 with some rude ass college kids. Talked the whole show and got so belegirent we had to move.

I love MMJ and I love Red Rocks, but the fan behavior can be really selfish. We shouldn't have to get in line at 8am to have a more positive experience.

And this is why I'm so looking forward to OBH3.  The fans are the best part! There is only one asshole in the entire place, the whistler. 

[Lonndown27]

You all are describing why most people like red rocks. Sit up top if you don't want in the madness. Light show is better that way too :)

Bullshit!

No one likes having their space crashed at a show regardless of the venue. While it might be expected in a ga section, I don't know anyone who appreciates that shit. It's definitely not "liked" by people who try to avoid it by buying a reserved seat. No excuse for that kind of behavior at a show IMO, and if the reasoning is everyone does it, then those doing it need to grow the hell up.

This guy gets it. I like you

ericm is the shit!!! we alllllll like him!   

[ericm]

Thanks for the kind words Lonndown. 

[Crispy]

Yeah, that ericm, he's pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty good. Never annoyed me at a concert once!