"One Big Holiday" in MEXICO!!

[Bulldog]

All,

Here is a link from over on the Further site thats got a pretty decent map of the grounds.

http://www.furthur.net/media/kunena/attachments/1117/UpdatedHRRMMap.pdf

[ms. yvon]

I first read this as "I'd like some fresh fruit to be able to sleep in" and thought, yeah, sleeping in a bed of fresh fruit does sound kind of awesome.

agreed.

[rincon2]

All,

Here is a link from over on the Further site thats got a pretty decent map of the grounds.

http://www.furthur.net/media/kunena/attachments/1117/UpdatedHRRMMap.pdf

Which is the nude beach? Adult, Eden, or VIP? All sound like they could be!

[Furthur fan]

Well it looks the roaches have been invited to the orgy 

Check out todays latest greatest review.



http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g153510-d209429-Reviews-Aventura_Spa_Palace-Puerto_Aventuras_Yucatan_Peninsula.html

[MrWhippy]

Well it looks the roaches have been invited to the orgy 

Ooh, kinky!  Crispy, I think this calls for a revision of the orgy compensation conversion factor.

[Fully]

Well it looks the roaches have been invited to the orgy 

Ooh, kinky!  Crispy, I think this calls for a revision of the orgy compensation conversion factor.

I don't know if I've ever told you this, but I love you, friend.

[MrWhippy]

I don't know if I've ever told you this, but I love you, friend.

I love you too, my dear.  The ground-level, roach-infested, sewer-smelling, construction hazard-filled orgy won't be the same without you. 

[Fully]

I don't know if I've ever told you this, but I love you, friend.

I love you too, my dear.  The ground-level, roach-infested, sewer-smelling, construction hazard-filled orgy won't be the same without you.

I would gladly go if circumstances allowed even with all of the above. It can't be as bad as a dark portapotty late night at Bonnaroo. And even if it is, it wouldn't bother me at all.

[ItBeats4Jew]

It seems like some people actually hope this place is a shithole just so they can say "I told you so" on this thread.

[ItBeats4Jew]

I still have hope that everything will be fine by the time we get there. And if it's not perfect, I'm still gonna have a great time.
I was just passing along some information that people might be interested in.

Not referring to you IMM. 

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go make pancakes for my kids and go back to freaking out with them that this is only 2 weeks away 

[given2jacket]

It seems like some people actually hope this place is a shithole just so they can say "I told you so" on this thread.

Just when I think responses can't get any more absurd...you thrash my expectations.  Well done good sir!

IMeMine:  Thanks for the info.  If we stayed at a different hotel we'd probably just book something completely separate from Hard Rock.  There is really nothing else I can do at this point but wait till reviews from Further trickle in.  If they are mixed, I'll take my chances.  If they are universally negative, I will book something else and deal with Cloud 9. 

It should go without saying since I booked this vacation that I would be very bummed out not being able to see MMJ.  Why else would I book a week away at premium prices where they are playing 4 nights in a row? 

[rincon2]

It seems like some people actually hope this place is a shithole just so they can say "I told you so" on this thread.

I don't think that is accurate, or adds anything other than animosity to this thread.

[Fully]

Hey look who's already in Mexico!

JIMCHAIN!!!

[ms. yvon]

 

if he's gonna walk in the waves he best roll up those pants.

[ms. yvon]

despite all the emotions and backlash flying around this thread i'm glad the negative reports have been posted.  i - me, personally - would rather be prepared to deal with construction and an unfinished hotel than shocked and angry that it didn't meet my expectations.

meaning:  i'm buying at the duty free en route. 

[rincon2]

despite all the emotions and backlash flying around this thread i'm glad the negative reports have been posted.  i - me, personally - would rather be prepared to deal with construction and an unfinished hotel than shocked and angry that it didn't meet my expectations.

meaning:  i'm buying at the duty free en route. 

Thanks for your respected perspective. To those who disagree, WTF..... DUH!!

[LeanneP]

Maybe it's the critical reading skills but when I read the reveiws on the HRHRM Trip Advisor the negative reviews sound like sour grapes and over reactions. Frankly, on that site, close to half of the reviews are on the positive side. Even the outraged reviews on the ASP Trip Advisor are often rating individual features surprisingly highly but then giving a very low overall score. And that, to me, reads as sour grapes.

When I was a restaurant reviewer, there were some pitiful places that I ate in. But, it was a truism that if the space sucked, the food and service were probably awesome, if the food was dicey, the location and decor were probably really great, if the service was awful, the food was likely pretty stellar. And there were different kinds of stellar food or service: maybe the cooking wasn't fancy but it was incredibly tasty home style, or maybe the servers weren't terribly efficient but they were kind and personable and charming. And all of that is to say that I never trust any review that doesn't try to be balanced in some way.

It's a 5 star resort that got phenomenal reviews up until the renos. Renos suck. Of course exposure to the renovations is not going to be great. But the resort is a really, really big place. Go elsewhere. Food kinda crappy and run of the mill at the buffet, go to one of the real restaurants. Hot tub lukewarm or closed, get your walking shoes on and go exploring. Go find some happy people to hang out with. Oh, and here's a tip: if something kinda sucks and you can't live with it? BE NICE TO THE STAFF WHILE TRYING TO FIND SOLUTIONS BECAUSE WHEN YOU ARE NICE PEOPLE ARE NICE BACK!

The people whining, in the reviews, about the resort not being perfect remind me of my kids whining at me that they're bored. I don't care. Go make your vacation awesome instead of expecting awesome to be handed to you. Honestly, if you can't make your own fun, you'll be miserable whether the renos were done or not. I have so little patience for whingers.

The fact that there are reviews on both sides of the fence, and the fact that many of the reviews point out that the problems are all on the adult side and that the family side is completed and pretty fine, all that points out that the problems being raised by some people are very likely exaggerated and often hinge on personal experiences ("wouldn't let us check out until we returned the xbox" - yeah, no shit sherlock, return the expensive, if defective, equipment you borrowed and stop being an entitled tool!).

THere is a term that describes what the whiners are doing perfectly: AGGRANDIZE - to make things appear bigger than they are, to exaggerate.

So, yeah, the slow renos and the couple of unpleasant glitches that weren't completed/fixed as of a few days ago are NOT the worst thing that will have ever happened to us and if you are a fairly flexible, easy going person, you'll be well able to roll with the punches and enjoy yourself. You'll be able to make your own fun with your spouses and friends and new friends and you'll walk away feeling changed, for the better, for ever! 

Cripes!  Can you Assholes imagine g2j a week before PC3 last year looking at the forecast and fretting about how it's a complete travesty to have to stand in the snow and sleet so they can get decent spots on the floor?! Gah!

[Bulldog]

Amen sister....

[alexzbik]

Maybe it's the critical reading skills but when I read the reveiws on the HRHRM Trip Advisor the negative reviews sound like sour grapes and over reactions. Frankly, on that site, close to half of the reviews are on the positive side. Even the outraged reviews on the ASP Trip Advisor are often rating individual features surprisingly highly but then giving a very low overall score. And that, to me, reads as sour grapes.

When I was a restaurant reviewer, there were some pitiful places that I ate in. But, it was a truism that if the space sucked, the food and service were probably awesome, if the food was dicey, the location and decor were probably really great, if the service was awful, the food was likely pretty stellar. And there were different kinds of stellar food or service: maybe the cooking wasn't fancy but it was incredibly tasty home style, or maybe the servers weren't terribly efficient but they were kind and personable and charming. And all of that is to say that I never trust any review that doesn't try to be balanced in some way.

It's a 5 star resort that got phenomenal reviews up until the renos. Renos suck. Of course exposure to the renovations is not going to be great. But the resort is a really, really big place. Go elsewhere. Food kinda crappy and run of the mill at the buffet, go to one of the real restaurants. Hot tub lukewarm or closed, get your walking shoes on and go exploring. Go find some happy people to hang out with. Oh, and here's a tip: if something kinda sucks and you can't live with it? BE NICE TO THE STAFF WHILE TRYING TO FIND SOLUTIONS BECAUSE WHEN YOU ARE NICE PEOPLE ARE NICE BACK!

The people whining, in the reviews, about the resort not being perfect remind me of my kids whining at me that they're bored. I don't care. Go make your vacation awesome instead of expecting awesome to be handed to you. Honestly, if you can't make your own fun, you'll be miserable whether the renos were done or not. I have so little patience for whingers.

The fact that there are reviews on both sides of the fence, and the fact that many of the reviews point out that the problems are all on the adult side and that the family side is completed and pretty fine, all that points out that the problems being raised by some people are very likely exaggerated and often hinge on personal experiences ("wouldn't let us check out until we returned the xbox" - yeah, no shit sherlock, return the expensive, if defective, equipment you borrowed and stop being an entitled tool!).

THere is a term that describes what the whiners are doing perfectly: AGGRANDIZE - to make things appear bigger than they are, to exaggerate.

So, yeah, the slow renos and the couple of unpleasant glitches that weren't completed/fixed as of a few days ago are NOT the worst thing that will have ever happened to us and if you are a fairly flexible, easy going person, you'll be well able to roll with the punches and enjoy yourself. You'll be able to make your own fun with your spouses and friends and new friends and you'll walk away feeling changed, for the better, for ever! 

Cripes!  Can you Assholes imagine g2j a week before PC3 last year looking at the forecast and fretting about how it's a complete travesty to have to stand in the snow and sleet so they can get decent spots on the floor?! Gah!

well said

[MarkW]

This thread 

Hope you guys have an awesome time - free booze and MMJ will definitely help with that.  I loved Mexico when we went about 10 years ago - we spent six weeks or so travelling around and ten days or so in that part of the Yucutan peninsular before heading to Cuba.

If the resort isn't working out for you, I suggest heading up the road to Cancun and getting a scheduled boat across to Isla Mujeres (takes about 20 minutes).  One of the most beautiful sets of beaches I've ever visited, anywhere.  You can get a bucket of beers for about $10 at a beachside bar too.

http://www.isla-mujeres.net/generalinfo.htm