Tour 2014

[Murph]

The problem with having OBH in the states is that you lose the exclusivity of the event.  If it was in the states, everyone and their mother could go, and that's certainly not a good thing.

One thing I absolutely loved about OBH was how over-the-top friendly everyone was towards one another.  All that beer and all that booze for a week straight and not once did I see an altercation, fight or scuffle.  It was simply amazing that something like that could happen, and I don't think that it ever could at an event hosted in the states.

Keeping it somewhat expensive weens out the lowlifes that otherwise come to the event and ruin the experience for everyone else.

But anyway... I'm antsy for an announcement.  Let's do this.

I've tried to interpret that comment every way I could think of and all I could come up with is.... You're an asshole

[BigHerm]

The problem with having OBH in the states is that you lose the exclusivity of the event.  If it was in the states, everyone and their mother could go, and that's certainly not a good thing.

One thing I absolutely loved about OBH was how over-the-top friendly everyone was towards one another.  All that beer and all that booze for a week straight and not once did I see an altercation, fight or scuffle.  It was simply amazing that something like that could happen, and I don't think that it ever could at an event hosted in the states.

Keeping it somewhat expensive weens out the lowlifes that otherwise come to the event and ruin the experience for everyone else.

But anyway... I'm antsy for an announcement.  Let's do this.

I've tried to interpret that comment every way I could think of and all I could come up with is.... You're an asshole

Been to bonnaroo lately?

[slappymoe]

The problem with having OBH in the states is that you lose the exclusivity of the event.  If it was in the states, everyone and their mother could go, and that's certainly not a good thing.

One thing I absolutely loved about OBH was how over-the-top friendly everyone was towards one another.  All that beer and all that booze for a week straight and not once did I see an altercation, fight or scuffle.  It was simply amazing that something like that could happen, and I don't think that it ever could at an event hosted in the states.

Keeping it somewhat expensive weens out the lowlifes that otherwise come to the event and ruin the experience for everyone else.

But anyway... I'm antsy for an announcement.  Let's do this.

I've tried to interpret that comment every way I could think of and all I could come up with is.... You're an asshole

i don't think he meant it as "if you're not wealthy, you're a lowlife."  it's a bit harsh, but it's a valid point.  only passionate, die-hard fans are going to be willing to fork over that kind of money.  we've all dealt with loud, annoying people at concerts that make you wonder, "why the f are you even here?"   nice to know that those types aren't likely to be there to ruin an OBH style event.

[gluvmiller]

And in conseration of the states, why can't we have similiar all-inclusive resorts on the beaches of the US?

I'd imagine our ridiculous booze laws don't allow for any sort of 'all you drink' all inclusive setups.

Probably true. Plus staffing costs don't condone the same prices in the US compared to Mexico.

[gluvmiller]

The problem with having OBH in the states is that you lose the exclusivity of the event.  If it was in the states, everyone and their mother could go, and that's certainly not a good thing.

One thing I absolutely loved about OBH was how over-the-top friendly everyone was towards one another.  All that beer and all that booze for a week straight and not once did I see an altercation, fight or scuffle.  It was simply amazing that something like that could happen, and I don't think that it ever could at an event hosted in the states.

Keeping it somewhat expensive weens out the lowlifes that otherwise come to the event and ruin the experience for everyone else.

But anyway... I'm antsy for an announcement.  Let's do this.

I've tried to interpret that comment every way I could think of and all I could come up with is.... You're an asshole

i don't think he meant it as "if you're not wealthy, you're a lowlife."  it's a bit harsh, but it's a valid point.  only passionate, die-hard fans are going to be willing to fork over that kind of money.  we've all dealt with loud, annoying people at concerts that make you wonder, "why the f are you even here?"   nice to know that those types aren't likely to be there to ruin an OBH style event.

I agree. I don't think the intent of the statement was to condescend most of the forum peeps. I haven't seen much of the wookie crowd at Jacket shows, but this is certainly an issue when you consider a lot fo the other tropical destination concerts (Panic, String Cheese, Mule, Mayan Holidaze, etc). With each of these bands' scenes, there is the BIG wookie scene that is nice to escape from.

[walterfredo]

Perhaps worded poorly, but I don't think sb_gli meant to come across as an ass.  In fact I agree with his perspective, and I'm all in on paying some money to see the band in a beautiful spot that is extremely difficult to get to.  The cost means only the hardcore of the hardcore will make it happen, and this weeds out a lot of the riff-raff that can make seeing a show sometimes less than awesome.  Of course a byproduct is that there are undoubtedly some hardcores that can't swing it too, but c'est la vie!  I wouldn't want OBH to be in the states....keep it tropical and keep it exclusive.   

[manonthemoon]

Well considering the 2 best series of shows PC3 and T5 were both in the States and accessible to everyone I would think that exclusivity is highly overrated.  Both of those sets of shows were accessible to everyone and I can only think of one incident involving a wasted girl and Beth that happened at either event.  Come to think of it out of the 20+ shows I have been to there has only been one fight issue that has happened at any of them.  I don't think the Jacket crowd is really the crowd for that, but that's just my take on it.

[walterfredo]

Well considering the 2 best series of shows PC3 and T5 were both in the States and accessible to everyone I would think that exclusivity is highly overrated. 

Firstly...the above is your opinion, certainly not fact.  Music is subjective...obviously.  Definitely two amazing runs of MMJ, and agreeably some of their best.  That said, I'm fired up for OBH2 not because I'm expecting it to be the most amazing jacket experience musically.  I mean OBH1 (musically) doesn't come across as the most mind-melting jacket.  It's the overall experience I'm after, and from all acounts the fun meter at OBH1 was completely off the charts.  The way the overall experience was described by those who went was enough for me to be sold, and completely bummed that I missed the first one.  I like fun. 

[ralph]

Just wanna point out that even if the shows were in the US that doesn't make them accessible to "everyone". There's a whole world of MMJ fans out there...

[walterfredo]

Just wanna point out that even if the shows were in the US that doesn't make them accessible to "everyone". There's a whole world of MMJ fans out there...

indeed.  Hope to see you on the beach somewhere in January!  It's been a while. 

[ralph]

I hope so man, I really hope so....

[Gina]

I'm 45 years old...when I was 25 or even 35, I could never afford to do this trip, but now I make it happen, no matter what, because I'm not saving for retirement, I'm living for the moment! 

With that being said, I am glad that only the die hards are there.  The entire adventure was one of the absolute best trips that I have ever made that involved music and concerts because the fans were totally chill.  There was a real feeling of brotherhood/sisterhood, I guess, and it just enhanced the entire experience.  I do feel badly for those who can't afford to pull it off.  This is one of those expenses that I am not willing to give up, so I cut out other things. 

I noticed the other night that those black out dates at Rivieria Maya HR were no longer blacked out.  They were accepting reservations.  That makes me nervous.

DR looks beautiful, but it will 1) cost more to get there, 2) room service will not be included, 3) as far as I can tell, no vouchers good toward any spa services, and 3) the rooms, in general, look a little higher in price.  The only real downside to Riviera Maya to me is the fact that there is no real beach, otherwise, it's a fantastic location.

Where oh where will OBH2 be??? 

[IMeMine]

Saying "I had a blast at OBH" doesn't even cover how I felt at those shows and how special that time was to me, I would love to do it again...wherever it may take place.  But, ever since OBH, I've been ready to get back to basics.  I wanna see some smaller, local MMJ shows.  I wanna hear some new music. I wanna get back on the road. I'm excited to see what direction they will take us from here. 

[sb_gli]

I've tried to interpret that comment every way I could think of and all I could come up with is.... You're an asshole

Trust me, I'm not an asshole.  I'm a pretty nice guy.  I just speak the truth.  :)

I'm just a middle american in the midwest making a middle class wage allows me to support my family with not a whole lot extra cash to fling around.  What I can do is save up enough money to go on a vacation like this every once in a while.  It's a reward to go to something like OBH and not be surrounded by the ass hats you see at every other concert or festival in the states.

[sb_gli]

Just wanna point out that even if the shows were in the US that doesn't make them accessible to "everyone". There's a whole world of MMJ fans out there...

Other than the resort staff, there were only a handful of Mexicans who were in attendance OBH.

[gluvmiller]

Well considering the 2 best series of shows PC3 and T5 were both in the States and accessible to everyone I would think that exclusivity is highly overrated. 

Firstly...the above is your opinion, certainly not fact.  Music is subjective...obviously.  Definitely two amazing runs of MMJ, and agreeably some of their best.  That said, I'm fired up for OBH2 not because I'm expecting it to be the most amazing jacket experience musically.  I mean OBH1 (musically) doesn't come across as the most mind-melting jacket.  It's the overall experience I'm after, and from all acounts the fun meter at OBH1 was completely off the charts.  The way the overall experience was described by those who went was enough for me to be sold, and completely bummed that I missed the first one.  I like fun.

OBH1 was easily one of the best vacations of my life. The experience is uncoparable. I got to boogie with my little kids (kids were 13, 4 and 1.5 at the time). When my 4 year old son's favorite song came on I grabbed and easily walked up to the rail with people welcoming arms wide open. While hanging on the rail during a later night, every time I turned around a waiter was bringing me my drink of choice. I had a couples massage with my wife before the last show as part of the package. We randomly met band members as they wandered around. We casually walked up to the stage in the middle of the day to hear soundcheck and then strolled to the beach just a 100 yards away. Yeah, I can see how this compares to PC3 and T5 (and what do i know, i wasn't at those runs).

[gluvmiller]

The entire adventure was one of the absolute best trips that I have ever made that involved music and concerts because the fans were totally chill.  There was a real feeling of brotherhood/sisterhood, I guess, and it just enhanced the entire experience.  I do feel badly for those who can't afford to pull it off.  This is one of those expenses that I am not willing to give up, so I cut out other things. 

I noticed the other night that those black out dates at Rivieria Maya HR were no longer blacked out.  They were accepting reservations.  That makes me nervous.

Gina,
I couldn't agree more about that feeling of "brotherhood/sisterhood". It was overwhelming. In fact we had my mother in law with us and she was constantly commenting on how much she loved the experience and much of it was about the people.

And as far as HRRM being blacked out, my wife went on yesterday and the Heaven side is blacked out. The "family" side is still taking reservations. I'm wondering if they're considering a different set up. I'm pretty sure we're going back to that resort.

[MMJCOBRA]

Can not wait for the OBH announcement!  My only complaint was no ocean access. But seriously, I ate and drank my body wait, met tons of awesome people and walked about one hundred yards to see my favorite band put on three amazing performances.  One thing that wasn't talked about enough is that the band really stretched out each song, often times extending outros or adding cool new intros or blending songs from one the end of one to the beginning of the next.

Bring it again MMJ, I AM READY

[johnnYYac]

Its great when they mix it up. You should listen to the intro to Birlingham '10. That shit was cool!

http://archive.org/details/mmj2010-04-20.mk4v.flac16

[getinthevan]

Its great when they mix it up. You should listen to the intro to Birlingham '10. That shit was cool!

http://archive.org/details/mmj2010-04-20.mk4v.flac16

Moments like that are exactly why I love this band. 

I may be in the minority here, but I'm fine with waiting a little while longer for more shows.  I remember seeing them at Jazz Fest in 2010, which if memory serves right, was one of their first shows since the abrupt end to the Evil Urges cycle.  I was blown away by how tight they were and how excited they seemed to be.  I think it's these breaks between albums/tours that get us these really incredible, unexpected moments.




(Subtext: I really can't afford to go to shows right now and I don't want to miss out...)