Is a double album a possibility?

Started by MMJOwlz, May 22, 2014, 03:49 PM

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millerjustin

Quote from: MMJOwlz on May 22, 2014, 03:49 PM
As seen on r/mymorningjacket - maybe a double album is happening?

"A close friend lives in Louisville who knows a bunch of folks close to the band... they've recorded 40+ songs in the studio since October... so expect a double album and fall tour, a NYE run, and OBH2"

All of these are realistic assumptions.  New album format might be a full album plus an EP - 18-20 new songs all in.
What's in here won't disappear

APR

In this day of singles, it would be great to see MMJ go completely against the grain and make it a double.

dmooney99

that would be pretty awesome!

just hope it comes out soon! 

bartel

Quote from: Mr. White on May 26, 2014, 03:00 AM
Quote from: ajclements004 on May 26, 2014, 01:16 AM
well according to Mr. White, Jim said the album may not be out til next Spring.  :cry:

Hold on. I only asked Jim about when they might be playing their next show in Louisville. I didn't say anything to him about the album. He just mentioned that they were still working on it. He also said he didn't know right now when they would be playing a show in Louisville and that it might not be until the spring. I guess you can infer a lot from that, but then again, who knows. Maybe the album will come out earlier than the spring, and they will make the rounds of radio and TV shows with a few gigs sprinkled in before kicking off a major 2 year tour. Plus, Louisville might not be the site of a tour kick-off. It may land in the middle of the tour or even at the end. Who knows. I didn't really want to quiz him over it.

this is good stuff like the idea of a 2 year tour.

jimsflyingv

Quote from: bartel on May 26, 2014, 10:14 AM

this is good stuff like the idea of a 2 year tour.

I think they should follow Bob Dylan´s idea of a  "Never Ending Tour"  :wink:

Anyway, looking forward to a new Album.....really can not wait for new material from what is now the greatest and best band in the world !!


bartel

Quote from: jimsflyingv on May 26, 2014, 10:49 AM
Quote from: bartel on May 26, 2014, 10:14 AM

this is good stuff like the idea of a 2 year tour.

I think they should follow Bob Dylan´s idea of a  "Never Ending Tour"  :wink:

Anyway, looking forward to a new Album.....really can not wait for new material from what is now the greatest and best band in the world !!

what do you mean they are NOW the best band!?!?!

Tracy 2112

imagine if Circuital was a double album  :undecided:
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ajclements004

Quote from: Mr. White on May 26, 2014, 03:00 AM
Quote from: ajclements004 on May 26, 2014, 01:16 AM
well according to Mr. White, Jim said the album may not be out til next Spring.  :cry:

Hold on. I only asked Jim about when they might be playing their next show in Louisville. I didn't say anything to him about the album. He just mentioned that they were still working on it. He also said he didn't know right now when they would be playing a show in Louisville and that it might not be until the spring. I guess you can infer a lot from that, but then again, who knows. Maybe the album will come out earlier than the spring, and they will make the rounds of radio and TV shows with a few gigs sprinkled in before kicking off a major 2 year tour. Plus, Louisville might not be the site of a tour kick-off. It may land in the middle of the tour or even at the end. Who knows. I didn't really want to quiz him over it.


I misunderstood your post in the Tour 2014 thread.  I thought when you said something about next spring I thought you were referring to the album. Looking back I see now you were referring to them playing in Louisville again.  My bad man.  Hate to twist up words and interpretations of posts.

Crispy

Quote from: Tracy 2112 on May 26, 2014, 03:00 PM
imagine if Circuital was a double album  :undecided:

It is a double album -- double AWESOME.
"...it's gonna be great -- I mean me coming back with the band and playing all those hits again"

Tracy 2112

Quote from: Crispy on May 26, 2014, 05:03 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on May 26, 2014, 03:00 PM
imagine if Circuital was a double album  :undecided:

It is a double album -- double AWESOME.

I figured you'd get that one Crispy. I still remember the night that gem dropped and we had that ginormous long distance bill from the phone company cuz we listened to it together like 6 times!
Be the cliché you want to see in the world.

justbcuzido

Quote from: Crispy on May 26, 2014, 05:03 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on May 26, 2014, 03:00 PM
imagine if Circuital was a double album  :undecided:

It is a double album -- double AWESOME.

First, I dig Circuital (while it's my least favorite outing of theirs). But I think the boys are in a much different place as a band than they were then. They also were recording some of those songs for their muppets venture so it felt like they just threw those in with the rest to make Circuital.

With no muppets to worry about and the boys doing so many different things musically, I think we are looking at an awesome album to come!

Mona Lisa must'a had the highway blues, you can tell by the way she smiles.

jimsflyingv

Quote from: bartel on May 26, 2014, 01:47 PM

what do you mean they are NOW the best band!?!?!

I meant the best band "now" - as in this period of time. Did not want to say that MMJ are better than the Beatles ;)

rincon2

Quote from: jimsflyingv on May 27, 2014, 02:23 AM
Quote from: bartel on May 26, 2014, 01:47 PM

what do you mean they are NOW the best band!?!?!

I meant the best band "now" - as in this period of time. Did not want to say that MMJ are better than the Beatles ;)
Third party interpretation. I believe bartel meant "why have they now become the best band" as opposed to years earlier.

LB

so would double album mean two cd's with the same type of music, but they just couldn't fit it on one cd? or does it mean two different cds at the same time? eg. if they released At Dawn with two cds or if they released At Dawn and It Still Moves at the same time?
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justbcuzido

Quote from: LB on May 27, 2014, 12:52 PM
so would double album mean two cd's with the same type of music, but they just couldn't fit it on one cd? or does it mean two different cds at the same time? eg. if they released At Dawn with two cds or if they released At Dawn and It Still Moves at the same time?

Or At Dawn with more At Dawn songs (Chills/EP Stuff etc). Just too much to fit on one album.

It could be cool if they did a "concept" of a theme of each of the two albums. Whatever it may be, it's gonna be AWESOME!
Mona Lisa must'a had the highway blues, you can tell by the way she smiles.

Stevie

Its time for them to make an album that makes us forget about the earlier gems for a while.  Im tired of going to their shows and waiting out the circuital stuff for the real early stuff.  Its time to push boundaries and blow everything wide open again. 

scosby2

it's a good sign when a band that thinks like a lot of us here do, likes the same kind of music a lot of us here do, actually listen to what some of us here have to say goes into the studio to record an album and pretty much likes everything they recorded. I think it's gonna be awesome, whatever it is, and we are all gonna dig it...but I mean I also thought Circuital was gonna be a lot more than it ended up being so don't listen to a word I say

EverythingChanges

Quote from: Stevie on May 31, 2014, 09:05 PM
Its time for them to make an album that makes us forget about the earlier gems for a while.  Im tired of going to their shows and waiting out the circuital stuff for the real early stuff.  Its time to push boundaries and blow everything wide open again.

Agreed!

I didn't get into MMJ until after EU was out, but I could imagine that people were pretty stoked to hear Touch Me Pt. 2 and Smokin' for the first time right?  The rest of the album could definitely have some more meat to it, but those songs are killer. 
I wonder why we listen to poets when nobody gives a fuck

Stevie

Quote from: EverythingChanges on Jun 01, 2014, 08:48 AM
Quote from: Stevie on May 31, 2014, 09:05 PM
Its time for them to make an album that makes us forget about the earlier gems for a while.  Im tired of going to their shows and waiting out the circuital stuff for the real early stuff.  Its time to push boundaries and blow everything wide open again.

Agreed!

I didn't get into MMJ until after EU was out, but I could imagine that people were pretty stoked to hear Touch Me Pt. 2 and Smokin' for the first time right?  The rest of the album could definitely have some more meat to it, but those songs are killer.

This is about when i jumped on board as well.  Initially i was in love with evil urges and z and it took me quite a while to understand the first three albums.  Once i did... Its all i really want to hear now.  Sort of... Because i know they have played those songs a million times before i was even listening to good music.. So to expect them to rehash to the degree i would like is a little unrealistic.  The spontaneous curation tour was definitely quite a treat in that regard, however.   

Whether this new album is a double or not, it does feel like we are in for 12 new songs at a minimum.  How great!  The big question, then, is which songs get cut out of the current rotation to make room for the 6 or 7 new album tracks each night?  I think this is where we will truly see how they felt about circuital.  Certainly, wonderful is a lock to hang around.  But will victory dance stay when they will have a new intro type song to play with?  Jim seems to really like circuital (the track), so i think that stays.  Black metal and outta my system disappeared during the americana tour, but its hard to say whether that was because they were over the songs or just didnt think they fit with the tour.  I hope like hell its the former.  You wanna freak out never really made it on the setlists very often even on the album tour.  That leaves The day is coming, Slow, and Movin Away.  Its just my intuition but i dont think that any of these songs either disappear or are heavily incorporated on a nightly basis.  Sort of like how they have been uitilized so far, i think we see them sprinkled in here and there.  I would love it if slow became more of a stalwart but its such a different tempo that it doesnt really fit anywhere in a setlist.  Still, when the guitar wails i think everyone falls in love.  From a sheer power perspective, slow and victory dance are sonically massive songs, especially when they attach the extended jam onto vd. 

What about other albums?  That could be a lengthy debate but i think it's time to shelve songs like off the record, golden, im amazed...maybe even one big holiday?   Lets not stop here though, i think in creating a longer album they would finally have the material to go to more of a phish type of setlist pattern with very few repeats from one night to the next.  I realize that they are a rock band before they are a jam band but how long can they continue witht the current template?  I dont think we will see them go to phish's format of two setlists a night, 3 hours a night.  They still tour way too much for that to be realistic.  But i do think that they now have the songs and the right kind of fans, those that travel to see them, to think more globally than just night to night.  If they do go this route, fans ljke me would have no problem going to 5 to 10 stops on the tour.  If not, i suppose ill hit two or three stops and wait until a three night run pops up later on.  I realize that what i want and what they want could be completely different, though, i just hope they are challenging themselves and believe in what they are doing..  I can live with whatever spawns from that. 

EverythingChanges

Quote from: Stevie on Jun 02, 2014, 08:46 AM
Quote from: EverythingChanges on Jun 01, 2014, 08:48 AM
Quote from: Stevie on May 31, 2014, 09:05 PM
Its time for them to make an album that makes us forget about the earlier gems for a while.  Im tired of going to their shows and waiting out the circuital stuff for the real early stuff.  Its time to push boundaries and blow everything wide open again.

Agreed!

I didn't get into MMJ until after EU was out, but I could imagine that people were pretty stoked to hear Touch Me Pt. 2 and Smokin' for the first time right?  The rest of the album could definitely have some more meat to it, but those songs are killer.

This is about when i jumped on board as well.  Initially i was in love with evil urges and z and it took me quite a while to understand the first three albums.  Once i did... Its all i really want to hear now.  Sort of... Because i know they have played those songs a million times before i was even listening to good music.. So to expect them to rehash to the degree i would like is a little unrealistic.  The spontaneous curation tour was definitely quite a treat in that regard, however.   

Whether this new album is a double or not, it does feel like we are in for 12 new songs at a minimum.  How great!  The big question, then, is which songs get cut out of the current rotation to make room for the 6 or 7 new album tracks each night?  I think this is where we will truly see how they felt about circuital.  Certainly, wonderful is a lock to hang around.  But will victory dance stay when they will have a new intro type song to play with?  Jim seems to really like circuital (the track), so i think that stays.  Black metal and outta my system disappeared during the americana tour, but its hard to say whether that was because they were over the songs or just didnt think they fit with the tour.  I hope like hell its the former.  You wanna freak out never really made it on the setlists very often even on the album tour.  That leaves The day is coming, Slow, and Movin Away.  Its just my intuition but i dont think that any of these songs either disappear or are heavily incorporated on a nightly basis.  Sort of like how they have been uitilized so far, i think we see them sprinkled in here and there.  I would love it if slow became more of a stalwart but its such a different tempo that it doesnt really fit anywhere in a setlist.  Still, when the guitar wails i think everyone falls in love.  From a sheer power perspective, slow and victory dance are sonically massive songs, especially when they attach the extended jam onto vd. 

What about other albums?  That could be a lengthy debate but i think it's time to shelve songs like off the record, golden, im amazed...maybe even one big holiday?   Lets not stop here though, i think in creating a longer album they would finally have the material to go to more of a phish type of setlist pattern with very few repeats from one night to the next.  I realize that they are a rock band before they are a jam band but how long can they continue witht the current template?  I dont think we will see them go to phish's format of two setlists a night, 3 hours a night.  They still tour way too much for that to be realistic.  But i do think that they now have the songs and the right kind of fans, those that travel to see them, to think more globally than just night to night.  If they do go this route, fans ljke me would have no problem going to 5 to 10 stops on the tour.  If not, i suppose ill hit two or three stops and wait until a three night run pops up later on.  I realize that what i want and what they want could be completely different, though, i just hope they are challenging themselves and believe in what they are doing..  I can live with whatever spawns from that.

I would be happy to hear Wonderful, Victory Dance, or Slow Slow Tune occasionally on the sets. But I'm hoping they drop most of Circuital this next tour instead of older songs. I'm thinking songs from Evil Urges will become more of a rarity than they already are.  It just depends what sort of vibe the new album brings.

I wonder why we listen to poets when nobody gives a fuck