Red Rocks - August 14

[Frank G]

yeah, I'm all good.
the big problem is "we" need to chill and not spend that money on these things.  When there is no market for a $200/600 poster the prices will eventually came back down to earth

I wouldn't consider paying over $70 for it

You are correct.  BUT, I always look at it this way.  There is nothing I hate more than trying to keep up with a tube the entire night during a show.  I feel it's on my mind all damn night and I just don't need that while I'm making love to the notes these guys are putting out into the atmosphere.  Therefore, I have no problem paying $100 for someone else to do the dirty work.  I'm trying to buy an Atlanta poster now and would pay $100 in a blink of an eye. 

Not a fan of flippers, especially during a re-release like today, but I also understand it.

Just my .02¢

[Bernard]

last Slater-Atlanta sold on ebay for $75.  Time is your friend here.

[ruralt]

Really sucks to hear about the negative experiences people have been having with "fans" - not just at RR but also at other shows. I don't like to say I know what Jim would or wouldn't say but I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be too fond of people hurling homophobic slurs.

I'm also not a fan of Tucker Martine's production.  Guitars are buried too deep for my tastes, but my tastes run more towards Led Zeppelin and Humble Pie.

I'd like to hear the results of someone like Glynn Johns engineering and producing a Jacket album.

The air kind of let out of me when I heard Martine was doing The Waterfall. I liked the production on Circuital and some bands can do great things sticking with the same producer. I liked The Waterfall a lot and don't have anything against Martine, and it's Jim's decision, but I still felt a little disappointed. And I was even more disappointed when I heard the production on the album, which really bore a resemblance to Circuital's production. I guess you could say Martine is consistent, in that respect, but that adds to why I wished someone else had been chosen: variety.

I think it is a good production, for what it is, and I love most of the songs themselves dearly, but it still sounds like Circuital's twin, production wise.

[gardenparty]

if I had a nickel for every back handed comment in that last post. haha
no seriously, I agree with most of your points

however, I love 90% the Waterfall a whole lot

[CHIMMJFAN]

Ok so I'm late on my Red Rocks review but it was a long and glorious weekend!
This show was the 20th for me and the first for my friend who wasn't very familiar with MMJ. After pretty much being up for 24 hours we go to Red Rocks early for Roll Call Early entry. The hike up got the hammies all worked up and the anticipation of seeing Red Rocks was at an all time high. We didn't run to get a good GA spot, instead we posted up to the left of the "VIP" section maybe 10 rows up.
There was one guy waiting for his friend and was very cool about us sitting down next to them. He and his friend (from Nashville and Louisville) were the nicest guys and fans of MMJ. Throughout the night we took turns keeping each others spots, grabbing drinks for each other, chatting MMJ stories, etc.... I couldn't have asked for a better crowd experience near me.

As for Red Rocks Amphitheatre, WOW! I was truly amazed....I hope that people who live close to Red Rocks do not take that for granted because damn is that place special. The view at night when the lights come on in the rocks, the acoustics were fantastic, and damn was it great weather with a cool breeze coming through!

As for the show itself, I was torn because as always I was looking for a few deeper cuts but at the same time since my friend was new to MMJ live, I was really hoping certain songs were played (Run Thru, Dondante, Phone Went West, Evil Urges, Steam Engine, OBH, Touch Pt 2). All were played and he got to experience the same feeling as did I when hearing those songs for the first time live.

I was impressed by some of the performances of some of the songs, they seemed really "on" and in their groove. Interested to see the electric guitar out for Jim on "At Dawn", "Only Memories" in a different key was well, different, I'll have to listen back to that as the jury is still out on that, but hey I'm glad they tried something different.

I'm a sucker for and still think "Spring" is the best new song live and this version did not disappoint. I didn't get the download and I'll really have to go back and listen or hopefully view the show if they put it on DVD but I had an amazing time. 28 songs and 3 hours worth? And they busted their butts too and I will always respect that.

For me the Chicago three night run was my favorite this year, I loved hearing "Just One Thing" at soundcheck in Milwaukee, and Red Rocks the experience as a whole was just phenomenal. And damn we stayed in Blackhawk, Co and boy is it beautiful! Highly recommend the drive through the mountains for anyone.

CHIMMJFAN

[Lonndown27]

I was eagerly awaiting how your experience went CHIMMJFAN and im WAY glad everything went perfect!

[CHIMMJFAN]

I was eagerly awaiting how your experience went CHIMMJFAN and im WAY glad everything went perfect!

Appreciate it, yeah now I'm in MMJ withdrawal.......somehow need to find a way of getting to another show this 2015, haha

CHIMMJFAN

[pagerage]

That shirt thing is hilarious.  Good luck with that...
I like this print (weird arms and all) but really just want it because I was there.
There are 350 of these.  Compared to the Reno T5 run of only 136.  Prices will drop.

T5 is a 3,000 capacity venue. Apples and oranges.

[Bernard]

That shirt thing is hilarious.  Good luck with that...
I like this print (weird arms and all) but really just want it because I was there.
There are 350 of these.  Compared to the Reno T5 run of only 136.  Prices will drop.

T5 is a 3,000 capacity venue. Apples and oranges.

Perhaps, but I don't think so. 
Most collectors want the full T5 set, so it's more desirable than a stand alone like RR 2015.  Plus, I personally think the Reno T5 image is much better.  There's a guy on this board right now trying to sell one for $400, last one on Ebeans sold for $300, 5yrs after the show, those are still fetching that kind of money.

I personally dont think there is any chance this print is going for that kind of money in 5 yrs.  I could be wrong, but I bet these are under $100 within a year.

[gardenparty]

which T5 poster is the most desirable?

[Bernard]

The Z one by Jason Brammer seems to be the hardest to find from what I've seen/heard.  The Reno is a close 2nd.

[tdb810]

which T5 poster is the most desirable?

My fave is the Burwell.

[Bernard]

which T5 poster is the most desirable?

My fave is the Burwell.

Mine too, it's one of my all time favorite MMJ prints.

[walterfredo]

The Z one by Jason Brammer seems to be the hardest to find from what I've seen/heard.  The Reno is a close 2nd.

this always shocks me because, personally, it's my least fav.  I have all 5.  The Reno is my fav of the 5, followed closely the Burwell.  The Reno is one of my favorites in my entire collection. 

agree that the RR poster will come down in time. They always do.

[ericm]

which T5 poster is the most desirable?

My fave is the Burwell.

Mine too, it's one of my all time favorite MMJ prints.

Definitely my favorite of the T5's too, and one of the favorites of my collection. 

[gardenparty]

ahh I see

I've only got the Clinton Reno.  A beautiful poster as well

[excel]

I really hope they can release more posters!

Came all the way down from Canada to see the show. Had an amazing time.

Highlight songs for me:

Bermuda Highway
Dondante
At Dawn
Spring
Steam Engine
Phone Went West
Magheetah
Run Thru

[Shug]

Jim had a nice long solo in Spring,  I dug that.  I wish that In Its Infancy had a huge Carl face melting solo, that song is screaming out for one!

[mynameiscurt]

I'm also not a fan of Tucker Martine's production.  Guitars are buried too deep for my tastes, but my tastes run more towards Led Zeppelin and Humble Pie.

I'd like to hear the results of someone like Glynn Johns engineering and producing a Jacket album.

Not to be "audiophile guy", but.......  the guitars are far from buried on this recording in a hi-fi environment.  Honestly Waterfall and Circuital sound significantly better than any of the other albums on my set up, it's not even close.   My buddy ParkerVB brought over some special pressing of It Still Moves that was super hot, but beyond that the studio albums are a little flat on hi-fi.  Honestly, The Waterfall is one of the best sounding records I own, I put it on when trying to impress someone with the system.  I am a big fan of most of the songs, but the production itself is a real nice touch. 

As for Glyn Johns - the only contemporary albums he has done that I am aware of (Band of Horses and Ryan Adams) were snore fests IMO. 

[JacketJayhawk]

Just got back from CO yesterday. Had to post my review of the show although a little late to that party...
Honestly one of the best nights of my life - not kidding
10 years ago I heard Wordless Chorus for the first time on a Ski Trip in CO; liked it so much our group continued to pump it right before we hit the slopes every day that trip to get us jacked up for the days carving. MMJ has been a part of me ever since...Although, I would have been considered more of a casual fan over this time-span, the past 2 years I have dug into their early stuff while really obsessing over their newer stuff (fav album: EVIL URGES)
Opted out to see them in hometown of KC to road trip out to CO as to not spoil my first live MMJ show...which turned out to be a great decision. My anticipation since getting the tix on pre-sale the day they came out was killing me, I was in part nervous they would not live up to my lofty expectations or worried I would not hear all my fav songs, and there was too much excitement / build-up and I was thus setting myself up for disappointment...ok, here we go...Jim lifted off with Wordless and Compound Fracture - BOOM - hit me like ton of bricks...all my expectations were blown away and I was in pure music euphoria / bliss. It was at that moment I did not care what other songs were coming up next and just had to let them take over and drive this crazy / awesome ride that is a MMJ live show. I could not have ever imagined these guys were that good live! Song after song my grin got bigger and at times I could not help but laugh to myself at how ridiculously good they sounded.
Highlight: As I sat up in my reserved seats with my wife, I look above the stage seeing the Denver skyline with flickers of lightning in the background as the GA crowd fist pumped in unison to Touch me pt 2, as billows of fresh CO herb floats into the nights air...Wow, what an epic night!...
I tailgated with quite a few groups and met a lot of you knowledgeable / loyal MMJ fans and want to give you all a quick shout out for being a fun and passionate fan base!
My only two regrets was not getting a poster - (which I doubt I'll get now that they are fetching for $200+ online) and that I was not in GA with all you guys playing air guitar and singing along...(I might have been a little too into the music up in the chill zone of row 50)
See you all hopefully very soon at the next show! I am hooked! Wife is now saying I am turning into Stan from that American Dad episode...hell, it might be true - and I don't care!