What is missing from Evil Urges?

[Goat Boy]

I know what everybody is thinking...Pink Floyd Sucks ;D

Good lad.  My good taste is obviously rubbing off on people!  Small correction - Syd's Floyd rules.  Waters Floyd, well, you know, although I do like Rick Wright.  He always seemed like a nice chap and it's a shame he was bullied by that ogre Waters.  I listened to Remember A Day today and forgot how wonderful a song that is.  Great stuff.  

[Coltrane]

i think the whole argument that blew up a few weeks ago about "newbies," etc is clearly magnified in the first post.

Sure, everyone can have an opinion. Not everyone will love everything the band does. But this forum, this place, is different. It began with only people who love everything the band does.

Everything the band does?  That sounds like a statement of blind faith!  See, I don't get this attitude.  Look, I love The Jacket but I can view them critically as well.  They are not above criticism - nobody is - and I think that out of this real debate emerges.  Then again, I'm a bit of an iconoclast.

If you were let down by the album, fine. Start a blog. Or send your review to Ben Fong-Torres. Why place it in a space that exudes love??

Well, why not?  This is a place for fans of the band and if some fans want to voice a contradictory opinion that goes against the love fest these places tend to be then that should be embraced imo.  This is a good thing.  After all we are ALL fans of the band and all viewpoints – positive and negative – should be heard, welcomed and debated.  It's just a shame the 'review' was, well, you know.

For the record I think Evil Urges is a grower.  Sure there's a couple of fillers but overall I'm happy and these songs will sound real fucking good when I see them in Amsterdam  8-)  

I think you've missed it completely. This is no ordinary band forum. This is no ordinary band.

I can't explain it as well as others here (Tracy, db, Meg, Conaway, Tom, etc, etc); you just have to know. It is blind faith. I will follow them to the ends of the earth. They did something for my wife and I that is beyond words, and I will be forever grateful . And this forum, and the people here that I have come to know over the years-- I will be forever grateful as well.


Viva La Jacket!

Fa-Fa Flo-high

[tower]

I know what everybody is thinking...Pink Floyd Sucks ;D

Good lad.  My good taste is obviously rubbing off on people!  Small correction - Syd's Floyd rules.  Waters Floyd, well, you know, although I do like Rick Wright.  He always seemed like a nice chap and it's a shame he was bullied by that ogre Waters.  I listened to Remember A Day today and forgot how wonderful a song that is.  Great stuff.  

Richard Wright's "Broken China" is a snorefest...

[Goat Boy]

I think you've missed it completely.

Clearly.

This is no ordinary band forum. This is no ordinary band.

Otherwise this would be the Razorlight forum!

I can't explain it as well as others here (Tracy, db, Meg, Conaway, Tom, etc, etc); you just have to know. It is blind faith. I will follow them to the ends of the earth. They did something for my wife and I that is beyond words, and I will be forever grateful . And this forum, and the people here that I have come to know over the years-- I will be forever grateful as well.

Is your post serious?  I've not been here long enough to know I'm afraid.  Put it this way – as a kid growing up I used to love REM.  Then they became total shit.  So I stopped listening.  I don't follow any band blindly.  Why would you?  If MMJ become shit one day then I'll stop listening to their new records and only listen to the good stuff.  Blind faith is never a good thing.  

[upstatestruggler]

[size=20]evil   ges[/size]
what's missing?
[size=20]ur[/size]

[marino13]

The thing I don't get about people hating on Highly Suspicious is this...

Did you people seriously miss out on the bands humor before you heard this song? It's ok when they cover Wham!, or Prince but when they write a catchy, funny song themselves all these people get all worked up about it? The song isn't supposed to be Steam Engine, seems to me they wanted to get their funk out and have a good time. THis song is going to floor people on this upcoming tour, and I believe like, 4 years from now when they bust it out people are going to go crazy. Seriously, if you didn't get their humor before this, it's not really whats missing from Evil Urges, it's whats missing from you.

I agree with this, and I really enjoy listening to the Kool & Gang/Lionel Richie/Wham!/Prince run from the New Year's show.  I am not opposed to them writing this song or playing it in concert.  However, some would argue that putting it on the album royally screws with the flow and it would be better as an extra/b-side.  I haven't heard the whole album yet, but after listening to the song on the SXSW stream, I imagine it does stick out like a sore thumb on the record.  

[Jon T.]

I think you've missed it completely.

Clearly.

This is no ordinary band forum. This is no ordinary band.

Otherwise this would be the Razorlight forum!

I can't explain it as well as others here (Tracy, db, Meg, Conaway, Tom, etc, etc); you just have to know. It is blind faith. I will follow them to the ends of the earth. They did something for my wife and I that is beyond words, and I will be forever grateful . And this forum, and the people here that I have come to know over the years-- I will be forever grateful as well.

Is your post serious?  I've not been here long enough to know I'm afraid.  Put it this way – as a kid growing up I used to love REM.  Then they became total shit.  So I stopped listening.  I don't follow any band blindly.  Why would you?  If MMJ become shit one day then I'll stop listening to their new records and only listen to the good stuff.  Blind faith is never a good thing.  

Is your post serious?  You say "I don't follow any band blindly.  Why would you?"  Didn't you say earlier something along the lines of different people have different opinions?  You're telling someone they shouldn't do something because you don't???

It seems like you just like to start shit.  Is that you purpose here?

[tomEisenbraun]

[size=20]evil   ges[/size]
what's missing?
[size=20]ur[/size]

8-)


p.s. Is that Tesla in your avatar?

[upstatestruggler]

[size=20]evil   ges[/size]
what's missing?
[size=20]ur[/size]

8-)


p.s. Is that Tesla in your avatar?

actually, it is mark twain in tesla's lab... mr. t may be in the background, there

[tomEisenbraun]

Whatchoo know bout Mark Twain and Tesla?

[ycartrob]

And just to make the point clear I didn't rate the review either but I don't see the need to piss on the dudes parade.  

He asked for comments, so I gave him comments. No need to read between the lines, take it for what it is.

[ycartrob]

I think you've missed it completely.

Clearly.

This is no ordinary band forum. This is no ordinary band.

Otherwise this would be the Razorlight forum!

I can't explain it as well as others here (Tracy, db, Meg, Conaway, Tom, etc, etc); you just have to know. It is blind faith. I will follow them to the ends of the earth. They did something for my wife and I that is beyond words, and I will be forever grateful . And this forum, and the people here that I have come to know over the years-- I will be forever grateful as well.

Is your post serious?  I've not been here long enough to know I'm afraid.  Put it this way – as a kid growing up I used to love REM.  Then they became total shit.  So I stopped listening.  I don't follow any band blindly.  Why would you?  If MMJ become shit one day then I'll stop listening to their new records and only listen to the good stuff.  Blind faith is never a good thing.  

Is your post serious?  You say "I don't follow any band blindly.  Why would you?"  Didn't you say earlier something along the lines of different people have different opinions?  You're telling someone they shouldn't do something because you don't???

It seems like you just like to start shit.  Is that you purpose here?

My Morning Jacket is one of those bands that speaks to me. Like Bob Mould, Rush, Stephen Malkmus and others, I am drawn to their music and I buy all their releases. Is every one of these artists' songs the greatest songs ever? Absolutely not, and I don't listen to some of their songs b/c they do not appeal to me. Do I reach out to other fans and talk about these songs that do not move me? Ummmm, duuhhh, no.

The idea of people sitting around critcizing music makes my skin crawl. People who say things like "I used to love REM.  Then they became total shit," are obviously pretentious people who are going to educate me (once again, for the 10,000,000th time) what music is good and what music is bad and what music I should and should not like, b/c they know what good music is; they are the holders of all that is sacred in regards to musical taste and if I happen to like an REM song off REVEAL, then I am an idiot and have no taste in music. Heard it, heard it, heard it, heard it....not interested.

>>imagining how this conversation with Michael Stipe might pan out: "Hey Michael, I really loved Chronic Town, Murmur, Reckoning, Fables of the Reconstruction, Life's Rich Pageant, Document, Green, Out of Time, Automatic for the People, Monster, and New Adventures in Hi-Fi, but, lately your music is shit". Is there a reson I would not say this to Michael Stipe? Wait! Think a minute before you answer. I understand that 15 years of solid music is really not that big of a deal; that anyone of us could just shit that stuff out....  think about it.

Take my brother in law, the jazz pianist, went to Berkley and studied with some jazz greats. He tells me My Morning Jacket is shit (and he did). So what did I do? Well, of course, I saw the errors of my ways and stopped listening to MMJ and I let my brother in law educate me on the merits and quality of music. So now I know. MMJ is shit, b/c my brother in law, who is a fantastic piano player, said so. However, he likes Smoke on the Water by Deep Purple b/c he played it in a high school jazz funk outfit.
I am pretty confident that he is the end all be all when it comes to what good music is.

give me a break.  

I own 22 RUSH albums everyone, and when I listen to it, I listen to it LOUD on my expensive as hell hi-fidelity stereo system and it makes me feel [size=20]G O O D[/size]
Kiss my ass   :-*

[killerwolf]

    Speaking of Danzig songs..has anyone heard the smokin' version of "How the Gods Kill" that was covered by none other than, My Morning Jacket?   Or their cover of the Misfits "Attitude"..  Jim definitely digs Danzig.   The first line of "Into the Woods" "A kitten on fire, baby in a blender"  has a ring of Danzig's morbid humor to it.
   I honestly didn't expect people on this page to be so..well...narrow minded.   Let me set a few things straight.  I LOVE this band.  It has moved me and touched me in ways I  didnt think were possible in music anymore.  I'm sure my reasons for loving this band are different from other people's, that everyone should have their own unique experiences with this and all music.  I am certainly not here to tell people how to experience music, simply sharing my own experiences if anyone cares to hear.
   I have very very high expectations from MMJ to continue making the most important music in recent memory.    I still pre-ordered a real copy of EU, and I am still going to listen to it, love much of it.  I am still going to be the first motherfucker on my block to get tickets for the upcoming shows in my area.  
  Also, it seems that my point has been well proven that "Highly Suspicious" has indeed divided people.   Even on this post alone, no two people can agree on that song and it ignites controversy whenever it is brought up.  It keeps people talking about MMJ.   I think that is great for the band.  
  Oh yeah, Tracy, your wife probably wont divorce you over Highly Suspcious, Hopefully she will realize what a self-righteous arrogant cock you are  and she will divorce you for that.  

[ycartrob]

   Speaking of Danzig songs..has anyone heard the smokin' version of "How the Gods Kill" that was covered by none other than, My Morning Jacket?   Or their cover of the Misfits "Attitude"..  Jim definitely digs Danzig.   The first line of "Into the Woods" "A kitten on fire, baby in a blender"  has a ring of Danzig's morbid humor to it.
   I honestly didn't expect people on this page to be so..well...narrow minded.   Let me set a few things straight.  I LOVE this band.  It has moved me and touched me in ways I  didnt think were possible in music anymore.  I'm sure my reasons for loving this band are different from other people's, that everyone should have their own unique experiences with this and all music.  I am certainly not here to tell people how to experience music, simply sharing my own experiences if anyone cares to hear.
   I have very very high expectations from MMJ to continue making the most important music in recent memory.    I still pre-ordered a real copy of EU, and I am still going to listen to it, love much of it.  I am still going to be the first motherfucker on my block to get tickets for the upcoming shows in my area.  
  Also, it seems that my point has been well proven that "Highly Suspicious" has indeed divided people.   Even on this post alone, no two people can agree on that song and it ignites controversy whenever it is brought up.  It keeps people talking about MMJ.   I think that is great for the band.  
  Oh yeah, Tracy, your wife probably wont divorce you over Highly Suspcious, Hopefully she will realize what a self-righteous arrogant cock you are  and she will divorce you for that.  

oh my! See how the critic responds to criticism! See how he is entitled to call the new MMJ "James Taylor-esque" and "cheesy Christian rock", but when I critique his review (by invitation, mind you) I am a self-righteous arrogant cock.  ;D

you, of course, can piss on MMJ, but it's a little different when someone pisses on your efforts, huh? Feels shitty? Hey, but at least I didn't compare you to some "cheesy Christian reporter". Time to grow up and figure out how to dish it out and take it.

1 suggestion for the future: If you do not want comments on what you post, please don't ask people to comment. My guess that you saying "Comments are welcome" is disingenuous. My comments, however, were not.

Walk the walk.

[pawpaw]

I was looking for that picture of the bunny hitting the bong, found this one instead...

[biscuitbobo]

this is all a bit silly, isn't it??  you guys are not making yers elves look so hot to a band that expects it's fanbase to not take it to this level!!!  c'mon, it's disappointing and discouraging...separate yers elves from the rest of the gong show shit like this you  see ever where on the interweb....after all, you are mmj fans, aren't you???  what if i say (NOW) i think the "year in review" is completely horrible, would any response be necessary??  pull it together, and don't let my "lurking" make me feel dirty and ashamed...my wife LOVES Ween, but i don't like highly suspicious, either...you guys is better 'n all this crap...oh yeah....

www.myspace.com/thehellsayers

[ycartrob]

this is all a bit silly, isn't it??  you guys are not making yers elves look so hot to a band that expects it's fanbase to not take it to this level!!!  c'mon, it's disappointing and discouraging...separate yers elves from the rest of the gong show shit like this you  see ever where on the interweb....after all, you are mmj fans, aren't you???  what if i say (NOW) i think the "year in review" is completely horrible, would any response be necessary??  pull it together, and don't let my "lurking" make me feel dirty and ashamed...my wife LOVES Ween, but i don't like highly suspicious, either...you guys is better 'n all this crap...oh yeah....

www.myspace.com/thehellsayers

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying, but I agree.

[Bigsky]

this is all a bit silly, isn't it??  you guys are not making yers elves look so hot to a band that expects it's fanbase to not take it to this level!!!  c'mon, it's disappointing and discouraging...separate yers elves from the rest of the gong show shit like this you  see ever where on the interweb....after all, you are mmj fans, aren't you???  what if i say (NOW) i think the "year in review" is completely horrible, would any response be necessary??  pull it together, and don't let my "lurking" make me feel dirty and ashamed...my wife LOVES Ween, but i don't like highly suspicious, either...you guys is better 'n all this crap...oh yeah....

www.myspace.com/thehellsayers

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying, but I agree.

ditto...you guys need to lighten up. Go smoke a fatty and come back when you are all smiles. ;)

I understand people having their own taste, but if you are a MMJ fan you should be crazy happy that their new album will be out in less than a month...not to mention MMJ is a live band who is about to launch a sweet tour. The Grateful Dead had many studio albums, but I love them because they new how to play live.

[Coltrane]

Thank you, Tracy. The above posts are why i love and respect the hell out of you!!!

[Goat Boy]

Is your post serious?  You say "I don't follow any band blindly.  Why would you?"  Didn't you say earlier something along the lines of different people have different opinions?  You're telling someone they shouldn't do something because you don't???

It seems like you just like to start shit.  Is that you purpose here?

Blind faith is a suspension of logic and rational thought in the face of contradictory evidence.  An opinion is based on more substantial grounds than purely blind faith which is what I was referring to.  And no, I am not here to cause shit.