Song vs. Song Tournament

xmascriminal · Oct 10, 2008, 08:42 PM

The LPs actually only total 63 songs. So, for the 64th song, do you guys want to include Cobra, Chills or something else? The guy above me is right, it is much simpler without all the EP tracks.

aMillionDreams · Oct 10, 2008, 08:45 PM

Let's do a play-in game between Chills and Cobra. I'll bet Cobra wins, but for me that would be a tough choice.

xmascriminal · Oct 10, 2008, 09:28 PM

I think maybe we should go with Chills since it was on the iTunes version of Z. Cobra would go really far but it would be kind of weird to include that and not include other EP songs. At least with Chills, we have an excuse.

getinthevan · Oct 10, 2008, 10:46 PM

Cobra has been put in the live show far more times than Chills has. Especially on this last tour.

The DARK · Oct 10, 2008, 10:48 PM

QuoteI think maybe we should go with Chills since it was on the iTunes version of Z. Cobra would go really far but it would be kind of weird to include that and not include other EP songs. At least with Chills, we have an excuse.

The same excuse could also be used for How Could I Know. And I know a lot of people who like that just as much as Chills.

I've gotta give my vote to Where to Begin. It's probably the most important (and overlooked) non-album release.

xmascriminal · Oct 10, 2008, 11:01 PM

I thought Where to Begin might be a good option too, and I did consider that they've been playing Cobra pretty often. Lil Billy's an option since it's neutral (never on an album or an EP) but a good percentage of people might still know it. Including Good Intentions would make it even, but that doesn't make much sense.

axround3r · Oct 10, 2008, 11:40 PM

butch cassidy for prez

BUT Dondante will win

xmascriminal · Oct 10, 2008, 11:44 PM

My guess is Steam Engine.

getinthevan · Oct 11, 2008, 12:11 AM

I really enjoy How Do You Know. Maybe a separate bracket for non-album tracks?

lime1968 · Oct 11, 2008, 12:53 AM

Not to get ahead of ourselves, but if a second tournament is done with non-LP songs, and since the NIT is 32 teams anyways:

1.Can You See The Hard Helmet On My Head? (Chocolate And Ice)
2.Sooner (Chocolate And Ice)
3.Cobra (Chocolate And Ice)
4.Holy (Chocolate And Ice)
5.Sweetheart (Chocolate And Ice)
6.I Just Wanted To Say (Does Xmas Fiasco Style)
7.Xmas Time Is Here (Does Xmas Fiasco Style)
8.Weeks Go By Like Days (Early Recordings Vol. 1)
9.What Will I Do? (Early Recordings Vol. 1)
10.Downtown (Early Recordings Vol. 1)
11.I Just Wanted To Be Your Friend (Early Recordings Vol. 1)
12.Time Never Gets (Early Recordings Vol. 1)
13.Isobella w/ The White Umbrella (Early Recordings Vol. 1)
14.Josta Dreams And Bitter Hands (Early Recordings Vol. 1)
15.When Will They Come?? (Early Recordings Vol. 1)
16.Somebody Cares About The Maestro (Early Recordings Vol. 1)
17.Tonite I Want 2 Celebrate w/ You! (Early Recordings Vol. 2)
18.Nothing 2 Me (Early Recordings Vol. 2)
19.I Won't Cry! (Early Recordings Vol. 2)
20.That Someone Else Was You (Early Recordings Vol. 2)
21.Good Nights and Happy Trails!!!!! (Early Recordings Vol. 2)
22.How Could I Know (Off The Record Single)
23.Chills (Off The Record Single)
24.Breathin' (Run Thru)
25.O Is The One That Is Real (Split)
26.How Do You Know (Split)
27.Come Closer (Split)
28.Lil' Billy (Demos Package)
29.Where To Begin (Elizabethtown)
30.R.I.P.V.G. (Heartbreakin' Man EP)
31.Epichord (Louisville Is For Lovers, vol. 6)
32.I Can't Wait (Not recorded, various live)
33.Wonderful (The Way I Feel) (Not recorded, various live)

This removes any covers and songs that would eventually make albums. Assuming one of these 33 songs would get bumped to the LP tourney, it would leave 32 songs, or a play in game would be needed. Suggestions definitely welcome.

easy way · Oct 11, 2008, 01:17 AM

This could get big...we may need corporate sponsorship...at very least, t-shirts. ;D

xmascriminal · Oct 11, 2008, 01:29 AM

Great job lime. We'll definitely do that after the album tournament. I've never heard Epichord or I Can't Wait. In the meantime, I'm thinking that we should go with Lil' Billy as #64, becuase it's neutral but it's on an album. Thoughts?

lime1968 · Oct 11, 2008, 01:42 AM

I would either include "Chills" because it is on the Z vinyl or "Cobra" because it deserves to be with the big boys. A play-in game may be necessary.

xmascriminal · Oct 11, 2008, 01:45 AM

I think we should save Cobra so that it can be king of the b-sides. What I'm planning is to crown a single champion, so we'll have a faceoff between the winners of the two tournaments.

aMillionDreams · Oct 11, 2008, 07:29 AM

Let's give dondante a bye and get on with it.

The DARK · Oct 11, 2008, 11:04 AM

QuoteNot to get ahead of ourselves, but if a second tournament is done with non-LP songs, and since the NIT is 32 teams anyways:

1.Can You See The Hard Helmet On My Head? (Chocolate And Ice)
2.Sooner (Chocolate And Ice)
3.Cobra (Chocolate And Ice)
4.Holy (Chocolate And Ice)
5.Sweetheart (Chocolate And Ice)
6.I Just Wanted To Say (Does Xmas Fiasco Style)
7.Xmas Time Is Here (Does Xmas Fiasco Style)
8.Weeks Go By Like Days (Early Recordings Vol. 1)
9.What Will I Do? (Early Recordings Vol. 1)
10.Downtown (Early Recordings Vol. 1)
11.I Just Wanted To Be Your Friend (Early Recordings Vol. 1)
12.Time Never Gets (Early Recordings Vol. 1)
13.Isobella w/ The White Umbrella (Early Recordings Vol. 1)
14.Josta Dreams And Bitter Hands (Early Recordings Vol. 1)
15.When Will They Come?? (Early Recordings Vol. 1)
16.Somebody Cares About The Maestro (Early Recordings Vol. 1)
17.Tonite I Want 2 Celebrate w/ You! (Early Recordings Vol. 2)
18.Nothing 2 Me (Early Recordings Vol. 2)
19.I Won't Cry! (Early Recordings Vol. 2)
20.That Someone Else Was You (Early Recordings Vol. 2)
21.Good Nights and Happy Trails!!!!! (Early Recordings Vol. 2)
22.How Could I Know (Off The Record Single)
23.Chills (Off The Record Single)
24.Breathin' (Run Thru)
25.O Is The One That Is Real (Split)
26.How Do You Know (Split)
27.Come Closer (Split)
28.Lil' Billy (Demos Package)
29.Where To Begin (Elizabethtown)
30.R.I.P.V.G. (Heartbreakin' Man EP)
31.Epichord (Louisville Is For Lovers, vol. 6)
32.I Can't Wait (Not recorded, various live)
33.Wonderful (The Way I Feel) (Not recorded, various live)

This removes any covers and songs that would eventually make albums. Assuming one of these 33 songs would get bumped to the LP tourney, it would leave 32 songs, or a play in game would be needed. Suggestions definitely welcome.

I think we can get rid of Wonderful (The Way I Feel), because I think we're all pretty sure that it's going on the Monsters of Folk album.

What about You Gotta Have Spirit? :-/

Murph · Oct 11, 2008, 02:37 PM

what about Where To Begin.

easy way · Oct 11, 2008, 10:31 PM

QuoteLet's give dondante a bye and get on with it.

Ha! Nice...

ChronicHunger · Oct 11, 2008, 10:47 PM

Dondantes got the first round bye for sure and where to begin has gotta get in, even if it is a bubble song, wtb would not be happy if got snubbed a tourney bid, my analyst's are projecting it to go deep into this thing and to be a big time player ;)

Love Dogg · Oct 13, 2008, 09:52 AM

So what are the rules and how do we play?