Oscars

[primushead]

Wow, the Oscars sucked (a la 'the grammy's sucked').  Why do awards shows suck?

[tomEisenbraun]

because their geared toward whatever will score them the most money. It makes more sense to have big name people win all the awards, because that's who people care about, and thats why they watch. This draws in mor emoney to awards ceremonies, so, voila.

big names + money + popular opinion = "good taste"

[harristrensky]

Jesus people did any of you see the films nominated?  This year was great for mainstream cinema.  Hotel Rwanda was outstanding and Don Cheadle should have won best actor. Ray was good but not worth any awards. If not Don Cheadle for best actor, then Johnny Depp.  Do I even need to explain how great this man is? And Jesus people, did you see Million Dollar Baby!? This was definately the best film of the year and captured my emotions better than possibly any film before (except Magnolia).

[MMJ_fanatic]

I think Sideways got screwed.  I hatethese award shows in general and I don't think there is any connection between seeing good movies and watching a self-congratulations fest.  Too much good stuff is ignored by Oscar and Grammy for various reasons and I find it disgusting.

[Coltrane]

who is this Martin Scorsese guy? And why does he keep getting nominated?????

[EC]

who is this Martin Scorsese guy? And why does he keep getting nominated?????

heh.

I hate the Oscars.  HATE THEM.  Can't even watch them anymore it makes me so grossed out.

[40206]

In my opinion, Scorsese is the best director to never "WIN" an Oscar for "Best Director."  I mean he directed "Goodfellas" and "Mean Streets"--WTF.

I wonder if "Elizabethtown" will be nominated for anything next year--possibly best fukin' rock scene ;D

[dogandponyshow]

How about Beyonce singing three times....ouch.  I did hope that Sideways would have won best picture....great flick.

D.

[Zmog1974]

hey im up for spending a few quid when im a little flush...but it makes you sick, when these people are wearing the running of a small hospital around their necks..."ooooh it's a diamond necklace by blah blah"..who gives a shit..if i went to the Oscars (i never would..no talent  :'()..i would wear a pair of Dixies and my middle finger would be pointing straight up. Hilary swank looked fine though  ;)

[primushead]

I'm still pissed that "Without a Paddle" didn't get nominated:)

[MMJ_fanatic]

yep jeans, t shirt, and Chuck Taylors would by wardrobe choice for this "Award" show :D

[PapaJoeBear]

"Ray was good but not worth any awards"

I whole-heartedly have to disagree with you on this one. Jamie Foxx became Ray Charles.  It was just amazing.  Haven't seen Hotel Rwanda yet, but its on my list.  But it has been a decent year for mainstream films.  People seem to br writing stuff with more thought these days.

PapJoeBear

[SunflowerZen124]

In my opinion, Scorsese is the best director to never "WIN" an Oscar for "Best Director."  I mean he directed "Goodfellas" and "Mean Streets"--WTF.

Definitely a big WTF. >:(  I think they're just toyin' with Martin Scorses, bless his heart.  Good night, everyone from the Aviator it seems won an Oscar except for him.

[BIGVICLBI]

Seriously I think they should go back and pick a year where a great movie didn't win and give them this year's award. Not one of these movies made me walk out of the theatre and say "That was one GODDAMN GOOD MOVIE!", ie. Braveheart, American Beauty, Matrix. etc. I liked MDB, but the bad girl not getting disqualified/thrown out of the match made me hate the whole thing. Seriously, was it a WWF referee or what?

[MMJ_fanatic]

And what's the deal with "The Passion" only being nominated for a little award for music?

[SmoothOprtr]

Just saw this thread... the Oscars are a certainly more political than anything, and this was NOT a great year for film but the show serves it purpose well, which is above all, to honor movie making and get people to discuss and watch movies.... claiming that the Oscars only focus on the films that will make money is stupid and shows little awareness of the shows history... films like Hotel Rwanda and Sideways only made it to certain theaters because of their respective nominations... If you look back over the years and the films and people nominated, they have historically done a pretty good job honoring good movies and people... any time you are selecting a certain number of things, someone is going to get left out... no one will ever agree 100% on what the best of a category is... I would have loved to see more or some nominations for Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow, A Very Long Engagement, Friday Night Lights, and Spanglish... all which I think were top 10 films this year.... but to condem the whole process for their omitions would be a tad bit self centered...

As for Passion of the Christ... thank Christ it didn't get more nominations... then the whole show would have turned into a religous debate with people voting based on religious beliefs and not on the product... Mel Gibson has his Oscar and his 300+ million.. he'll be ok

[MMJ_fanatic]

historically, the show may have done a good job but the people and the environment of Hollywood was also not as infantile or purposely provactive.  Make good movies, accept your reward, siddown, and shut up!  I am sick and tired of the movie industry being a one way street.  I am glad however that Mr Clint Eastwood received the amount of recognition he did--he is one class act.

[SmoothOprtr]

I don't understand your comment about Hollywood being a one way street, but I agree (if this is what you were saying) that the Oscars should not be a forum to launch personal views or politics.  It's for that reason alone that I think it was a good thing that both Fahrenheit 9/11 and Passion of the Christ were overlooked.  When Michael Moore won a deserving Oscar for Bowling for Columbine, the aftertalk wasn't a celebration of his film, it was a talk about what he had to say about President Bush.  

The Emmy's suck because they typically only honor popular music, thus missing many of the bands the people on this forum listen to.  Movie fans can root for or against films in just about every category, but the Emmy's are packed with categories where an average viewer doesn't like any of the choices....

[BIGVICLBI]

I agree the Oscars are much better than the Emmys. But it does the raise the question about who is it that gets to pick the awards? Should the popular vote win as it does at the Emmys(remember this is how we pick our President?)There are plenty of people that love Britney Spears and Usher.

[EC]

When Michael Moore won a deserving Oscar for Bowling for Columbine, the aftertalk wasn't a celebration of his film, it was a talk about what he had to say about President Bush.  

But that's what his film was about.  That's what he does.  If anybody ever thought for one second that Michael Moore wasn't going to milk the fuck out of his opportunity, then they'd never watched his films.  

Okay, I seriously loathe these award shows for a number of reasons.  One, I think they're a huge waste of time and money.  Like, a disgusting waste of money.  Two, they're incredibly self-serving and in no way reflect the real world or real people.  I'm not saying that movie stars and big rock stars aren't real people, but sitting around watching fancy people dressed up in necklaces that cost more than an entire country's budget, to me, is ludicrous.  Three, most of these people started from a place, and it bugs me to see a lot of them forget that.  And the music is always shit, and the "numbers" always suck.  They're never interesting or  creative or different, they're always the same kind of silly crap that is of the same calibre as most of the movies that they're awarding.

Every once in a while a truly amazing actor or film or musician actually wins an award for their superior achievement, and they just look so weird up there.  

And I guess my main problem with all of it - and don't get me wrong, I'm not begrudging anybody's right to have the Oscar's and the music awards exist - is that it glorifies all of the crap that exists in this world.  It exaults it.  And I can't stand that.  It's so frustrating to see all this crap that's labelled as art, that has zero integrity and is made by people who don't give a fuck.  For the most part, human beings aren't idiots.  We know when somebody has been careful about their creation, and we know when somebody's just trying to make themselves into a popular star.  But the problem is that the junk is more easily available than the good stuff.  And maybe people are lazy, I don't know.  I can't figure out why people listen to Britney Spears, and I guess I don't care.  Well, I do care, but I don't want to spend time thinking about it.

And, for those people who exist in the world who DON'T know about the "other" kind of art, the "other" kind of music - the stuff that you have to seek out - I am always thrilled that a person like Michael Moore exists.  Someone who isn't afraid to kind of brings things down to reality.  I know that people get upset when stars use these forums as their platforms, but I don't.  I love it.  I say, if you've got something to say, and you know that half the world is watching you, and you think your thing is really fucking important, you say it.  And thank you for saying it.

That's what I think.