I figured it was time to start a new thread for this. So far we have 8 people signed on. Crispy, Killgies, bama37, and Bowl Of Soup are yet to rejoin. Out of those people, I've noticed Crispy on the forum the most so I assume he's in. If those people don't come forward soon, then I think we should give those spots to new people. If that's the case, I'd like to go back to ten teams instead of twelve. We should get a draft time set too, I need to know in advance on that.
Yeah, I just set a generic time and date for the draft. I definitely want to change that. Maybe we can schedule it a week in advance. I know it's tough to try to schedule things more than a week in advance sometimes, especially with 10 or more people.
I haven't talked to my brother about joining the league again, but I'm sure he will.
I set a generic time for the league I commish and we just so happened to pick the same day, a half hour apart from each other. Weird. But at least one time will have to change. The good time slots may disappear if we don't change it too soon though.
What does everyone think about using Individual Defensive Players?
I'm on the fence. Capt's all about it. Walt and Corey seem to be on opposite sides but neither seem like they'd be too upset either way.
I kind of like the idea. How many individual players would we need?
I'm in now, y'all - just a little slow on the trigger.
I've done the individual defensive players thing before, it's cool, but don't go nuts with the number
QuoteYeah, I just set a generic time and date for the draft. I definitely want to change that. Maybe we can schedule it a week in advance. I know it's tough to try to schedule things more than a week in advance sometimes, especially with 10 or more people.
I haven't talked to my brother about joining the league again, but I'm sure he will.
I need 2 weeks notice
I wouldn't care if we played defensive players. I've done it before, but I don't think it really adds anything. It's not like your watching the game, and there's a crucial drive that your defensive players on. Say your RB is in the redzone, you watch for it. Say your defensive player is in the redzone, you don't care. You get more outta the game, I guess, but there really isn't a thrill behind a defensive player. A LB can rack serious points. You hear of players having 15 solo tackles, forced fumbles, and maybe a sack or a pick. That's a lot of points. If defensive players had point totals like TE's, it'd be different, but most of the time that's not the case. I'm down for whatever. But if I had a vote, I'd vote no.
Am I the only one that thinks true started the shit talking a little early? I mean, true's name here is in lower case, but in the fantasy league it's in caps. Clearly an assy move. ;)
My greatest hesitation is that I've never done IDPs before. I'm on the fence but really won't mind either way. Something about the fact that a single linebacker can throw scoring so hard in one way leaves me wondering.
I think you all should start a defensive player only league separately. ;)
Corey resend the invite. Sorry I don't check that email account often.
What address should I send it to?
Well, we're just waiting on Chris and BoS...and on a decision about IDPs. I remember BoS was wishy washy on playing with us last year. Have you talked to Chris yet, Corey? I imagine he'd want to play but if not we can keep the league at 10.
I'm still going back and forth about IDPs. We may just have to put it to a vote. Let's say everyone votes yes or no by next Sunday, seems like the best way to decide. Does that work for you, Corey? You can email the league through yahoo to make sure everyone knows the vote is going down.
I'm kind of indifferent on IDP's. If I had to vote one way, I'd probably say no. Just because I've never done it before. My take is that because this isn't really a money league, I'd like to keep it as simple as possible. But, if we decide to to do it, I'm down with that too. And, I'll still repeat this BIOTCH!
Mind if I get in on this? 8-)
QuoteMind if I get in on this? 8-)
we're at ten teams right now. if corey's brother joins then we might as well go twelve again, in that case you'll be first in line.
Chris is still undecided right now. I'll probably know something from him by the end of the week.
I just tallied up what people had to say about IDPs. Unless I'm mistaken, here is what I got:
Yes - 1 (crispy)
No - 2 (Walts, jonT)
Whatever - 2 (aMD, Ruckus)
That's 5 people, half of the players. It really doesn't matter to me, so I'd probably be in the whatever category as well.
I'm not sure how I feel about it. On one hand it would give it a whole new dimension. On the other, I would suck ;). I gotta say no (if my provisional status gives me any say).
I love the IDP's, It adds to the game imo. I have been in the same league for 17 years. It makes you pay attention to both sides of the ball. It is also a keeper league. We can keep 2 offensive players and they can't be at the same position.
Our scoring system for IDP positions. We start 3 players, one from each slot, Lineman, Linebacker and defensive backs ( safetys or cornerbacks).
5 pts for sack
5 pts for int
1 pt per tackle
6 pts for safety
2 pts forced fumble
3 pts fumble recovery
6 pts for TD
We had a standard league for the 1st 10 years and decided to try IDP's on a one year trial basis and we never looked back. It made the league a lot more competitive.
QuoteChris is still undecided right now. I'll probably know something from him by the end of the week.
I just tallied up what people had to say about IDPs. Unless I'm mistaken, here is what I got:
Yes - 1 (crispy)
No - 2 (Walts, jonT)
Whatever - 2 (aMD, Ruckus)
That's 5 people, half of the players. It really doesn't matter to me, so I'd probably be in the whatever category as well.
I'd venture Headdy is a yes and I'd say I'm down since I've never tried it so it's a good way to get my feet wet in a non big money league.
QuoteQuoteChris is still undecided right now. I'll probably know something from him by the end of the week.
I just tallied up what people had to say about IDPs. Unless I'm mistaken, here is what I got:
Yes - 1 (crispy)
No - 2 (Walts, jonT)
Whatever - 2 (aMD, Ruckus)
That's 5 people, half of the players. It really doesn't matter to me, so I'd probably be in the whatever category as well.
I'd venture Headdy is a yes and I'd say I'm down since I've never tried it so it's a good way to get my feet wet in a non big money league.
I vote no.
So far it looks like this:
YAYs
Crispy
Captain Headdy
Ruckus
Taterbug (He is in our league right?)
NAYs
Walts
JonT
true
Whatevers
aMD
Corey
Also, Yark votes NO provisionally.
If Chris is out are we going to cut it off at ten? We hav ten registered right now. BTW, the only two of the ten that are registered haven't voted, Killgies and EasyE.
I say we cut it at 10 if Chris decides not to play. Seems like the draft got a little thin last year with 12 players.
I was hanging out with my boy tonight who I first played in an IDP league a few years ago, and had to ask him:
"So if you dont want to do IDP instead of team defense, what is wrong with that?"
Basically, his answer was "because using IDP's takes more skill"
It seems to me everyone against using IDP's feels that way because theyve never done it before and only used Team D. IDP's arent hard to grasp, and if you have someone unworthy on your team, there are plenty of options out there as pickups, and youll realize that within a couple weeks.
I hate Team D ever since I started doing IDP's, its like picking a kicker and sticking with him/it all year pretty much. IDP's are a ton better than Team D, and you dont even know it until you start using IDP's instead of Team D. Its MONEY.
Upon further review, Taterbug doesn't appear to be in our league so he probably shouldn't get a vote. That makes it 3 for, 3 against, 3 on the fence, and the two people not in our league as of now voted one for and one against. Pretty close, if we don't have somebody break the tie by tomorrow maybe I'll come off the fence and break the tie.
Any word on Chris, Corey? If he wants to play, make sure he tells us how he feels about this craziness.
I'll call him today and try to get an answer.
QuoteI'll call him today and try to get an answer.
I don't understand why he wouldn't join?
QuoteI don't understand why he wouldn't join?
I figured it was a no-brainer as well. But he didn't give me an answer when I asked last week.
I say we make a decision on the IDPs by tomorrow night. I was a "whatever" vote before, but I'll make a solid decision between now and then.
QuoteQuoteI don't understand why he wouldn't join?
I figured it was a no-brainer as well. But he didn't give me an answer when I asked last week.
I say we make a decision on the IDPs by tomorrow night. I was a "whatever" vote before, but I'll make a solid decision between now and then.
I changed my vote. I don't like team defense that much. I would rather have IDP.
Alright, Im changing my vote, too. But only because Captain and I are so tight. ;D
I vote yes!
Sorry, haven't been around in awhile, no Internet, things of that nature etc. It doesn't matter to me I've done both. So if the yays have it I'm fine with that. Just have to pay a little more attention. Have we decided on a draft date yet? Sorry for not being more involved.
YAYs
Crispy
Captain Headdy
Ruckus
Walts
aMD
NAYs
JonT
true
Whatevers
Corey
There's the newest breakdown with the changed votes. I meant to do this last night, but I got drunk because I was up at 3AM yesterday morning and started smoking a pork shoulder for some pulled pork BBQ. :)
Anyway, I think if I had to go YAY or NAY, I'd say YAY just to give it a test run.
So it looks like we'll be rolling with IDPs instead of team defenses this year.
SO.... now we need to figure out which positions we want and a draft time and date. Any thoughts on this?
I'm in the Central Time Zone and I'd prefer for it to be after 6 PM.
Also, Chris said that he's going to sit out this year. Not sure why... so I guess we'll keep it at 10 players.
woohoo!
as for the positions, it appears Yahoo changed the structure a little. The "DL" category used to include both the actual DLine and LB's, but now it appears to only include the actual DLinemen. Ive never really used DL as in the past I always plug in an LB in that category, but I wouldnt be opposed to having a DL starter this year because there is a premium on them since there's only so many to go around.
I say 3 starting IDP's: DL, DB, and D (flex). Id be fine with DB, D, and D (2 flexes) though as well.
We need to figure out the scoring as well, but I say we just decide on this first and then figure scoring out. I think the scoring I use is similar to what Taterbug posted, with a few differences.
I'm cool with DL, DB, and D flex. Scoring just needs to be reasonable, err on the side of not enough points instead of too many.
I'll bet Chris doesnt want to play because he's afraid of me. ;)
Based on what I remember from Tater's scoring, the basic difference was his scoring being more points that mine (2 more for INT's, 1.5 more for sacks, and 6 points for safeties being the main ones I remember).
But yeah, lets hammer out the positions first.
I like the idea of having a flex player in there for variety. I say we try to get this resolved in the next couple of days and not spend too much time on it so we can hammer out the scoring and draft time. Cool?
QuoteI'm cool with DL, DB, and D flex. Scoring just needs to be reasonable, err on the side of not enough points instead of too many.
I'll bet Chris doesnt want to play because he's afraid of me. ;)
I agree with this.
As for the draft time, I'd prefer any Wednesday night or Sunday anytime. If it is any other weeknight, 10pm eastern or later would be preferable.
I can be flexible. Unfortunately, for the baseball league, I had to have a friend draft for me because I couldn't make the draft time and he drafted Reyes ahead of Pujols for me. >:(
My 2 cents. Cheers :)
Wednesday night works for me as well. Most nights do, but since you're the first to list a specific day, I thought I'd mention that.
I'm good with any day anytime of the week.
I'd rather not go too late. I go to sleep pretty early while school is in session. Is 9pm eastern doable? If not I can tough it out.
Sounds good to me. If we do Wednesday, it could be even earlier according to Ruckus. Say, 8 PM eastern?
QuoteUpon further review, Taterbug doesn't appear to be in our league so he probably shouldn't get a vote. That makes it 3 for, 3 against, 3 on the fence, and the two people not in our league as of now voted one for and one against. Pretty close, if we don't have somebody break the tie by tomorrow maybe I'll come off the fence and break the tie.
Any word on Chris, Corey? If he wants to play, make sure he tells us how he feels about this craziness.
I thought about trying to get in your league, I was in 2 last year and it got to be to much for me and my keeper league that I've been in for a long time suffered. Good luck to all my fellow FFLers.
It's gonna be an interesting draft this year.
Who is gonna be the # 1 pick ? NOT L.T.
QuoteI'd rather not go too late. I go to sleep pretty early while school is in session. Is 9pm eastern doable? If not I can tough it out.
9 eastern would be perfect for me. I also wake up early, but if need be I'm willing to tough it out.
Can you do 8 Eastern also?
Any time Wednesday night works for me.
Hey guys,
So, do you think Wednesday, August 26th will be OK for the draft? 9 PM Eastern?
If no one is opposed, we'll roll with that.
Also, do you get the emails that I send from the league?
Date works for me.
I'm not sure if I get the emails, I guess I'd have to check my inbox first. ;D
wed, 26th, 9pm eastern = [smiley=thumbup.gif]
Well, I forgot that's my birthday, but that's not a big deal at all. I try not to make a big deal about birthdays anyway and it's school night. Yeah, I'm in for Wed at 9
wednesday is the worst day for me because i have to get up at 5AM thursdays.
Id rather do it another day (sunday?) if possible, or like 6PM if it needs to be a wednesday.
id rather do it the following week as well so its as close as possible to the first week. it starts late this year.
If ruckus can do it earlier on wednesday i say let's go for that.
I'm picking Ray Lewis in the first round. 8-)
6 PM eastern, or central?
5 Central isn't a great time for me. But I can possibly make it work.
September 2nd?
anytime Wednesday is fine.
I definitely prefer it to Sunday if possible
QuoteWell, I forgot that's my birthday, but that's not a big deal at all. I try not to make a big deal about birthdays anyway and it's school night. Yeah, I'm in for Wed at 9
I just put in my calendar a reminder to be the 1st to post a Happy Birthday aMD thread at 12:01. [smiley=birthdays.gif] [smiley=vrolijk_1.gif]
Sunday's fine with me
QuoteSunday's fine with me
If we can do Wednesday it would be awesome. I have one of my live drafts at a rented room in a bar that Sunday the 30th so....that might throw another wrench into things. In the end, all good, i can have someone draft for me if we can't do Wednesday
QuoteQuoteSunday's fine with me
If we can do Wednesday it would be awesome. I have one of my live drafts at a rented room in a bar that Sunday the 30th so....that might throw another wrench into things. In the end, all good, i can have someone draft for me if we can't do Wednesday
O, I read your other post wrong. i'm good with either
Yeah, I think I did too. I thought Sunday was better for some reason.
Wednesday is better for me too. Is 7 PM eastern too late for you guys? That would be 6 PM for me, which is better than 5 PM.
Also, are we committed to September 2nd? I'm good with that.
WE'RE ON FOR WEDNESDAY! SET IT UP COMMISH :)
Word up.
I'll set it for Wednesday, September 2nd at 7 PM eastern.
What about the D positions? DL, DB, and D flex? I think that would work.
Ruckus - is the only reason sunday doesnt work because you have another draft? If thats the case, we could do it sunday sept. 5th
wednesday at 7PM sounds a hell of a lot better than 9PM though. im probably going to be too pumped after the draft to sleep anyway ;D
And Id say just do those IDP positions. Havent seem anyone say otherwise.
QuoteRuckus - is the only reason sunday doesnt work because you have another draft? If thats the case, we could do it sunday sept. 5th
wednesday at 7PM sounds a hell of a lot better than 9PM though. im probably going to be too pumped after the draft to sleep anyway ;D
And Id say just do those IDP positions. Havent seem anyone say otherwise.
I'll be camping in West Virginia that whole weekend only to come back for a Monday night draft.
Besides, I'm guessing there aren't that many draft slots available that Sunday.
ahh, ok....i guess i'll just have to suck it up then. ive been tired the next day for things worse than a fantasy draft.
and since I think we figured out the IDP positions, we still need the scoring decided on. here's what I use in my money league with some slight adjustments I just made:
Tackle Solo 1
Tackle Assist .5
Sack 3
Interception 3
Fumble Force 3
Fumble Recovery 2
Defensive Touchdown 6
Safety 2
Pass Defended 1
The only changes I made was increase INT's and FF's from 2 to 3 and decrease sacks from 3.5 to 3. I think that evens out the value better, and keep in mind that with a sack you are also getting 1 pt for the tackle and also possibly 3 more for a FF.
I like making INTs the same as sack, if anything they should be worth more since they are rarer and more of a game-changing play. I think FF's could be backed down to two though as they usually come with another score (solo tackle or fumble recovery), I'm also thinking if a player strips the ball from the QB and falls on it then you're looking a Tackle Solo (1) + Sack (3) + Fumble Force (3) + Fumble Recovery (2). That's nine points from one individual defensive player on one play. Seems like a bit much. I know that kind of play doesn't happen all the time but it does happen. Then again, I've never play with IDPs so this is all conjecture. What do you all think?
Sounds good to me, aMD. I'll make the scoring changes in a bit.
The draft is officially set for Wednesday, September 2nd at 7PM eastern.
Dudes. I hate to do this but I'm going to have to resign my spot. I think I am burnt out with it and I don't want to be the one that quits setting his lineup each week. It looks like there is enough interest and time to fill my spot. And, unlike Mr. Favre, I'm going out on top. ;D Better to burn out than fade away, eh? Good luck!
Well.... damn it. It's gonna suck to not have you play this year.
I understand though.
Did you remove yourself? I guess I could go look, huh? I'll remove you if you haven't done so already.
Now I gotta go back through the thread and find the other person that wanted to play. :)
I know, man Maybe next year. I am in a big money league that has been going on for a while and I almost backed out of it. I hope it's just a passing phase.
Don't worry though, I'll still be around to talk smack about Alabama. ;D
Damn, Jon. That's a bummer. I hope you're back next year. Don't be a stranger, brother.
Corey, you may want to change the draft time soon. Slots that close to the season won't be open too much longer.
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Now I gotta go back through the thread and find the other person that wanted to play. :)
YDYDark? How's he gonna draft high atop the Tetons? ;)
I sent him a PM. Any idea when he'll be back?
Is he gone for a while? Should we get someone else to play?
OHH NOOOOO!
I thought we were gonna do the 26th of August. I know that is not as close to opening kickoff but I can't do the 2nd. I'm really sorry but I had won free DC United tix for that day. :(
I'm OK with that if everyone else is. I'll have a draft the night before as well. I was hoping to have a little space between them, but I can live with it.
QuoteOHH NOOOOO!
I thought we were gonna do the 26th of August. I know that is not as close to opening kickoff but I can't do the 2nd. I'm really sorry but I had won free DC United tix for that day. :(
DC United?!
I know Im a douche for actually going to Pirate games, but MLS soccer?!
Not trying to screw you Ruckus, but the 26th is 2 weeks before the regular season starts.
....is every night besides wednesday seriously forbidden?!
QuoteQuoteOHH NOOOOO!
I thought we were gonna do the 26th of August. I know that is not as close to opening kickoff but I can't do the 2nd. I'm really sorry but I had won free DC United tix for that day. :(
DC United?!
I know Im a douche for actually going to Pirate games, but MLS soccer?!
Not trying to screw you Ruckus, but the 26th is 2 weeks before the regular season starts.
....is every night besides wednesday seriously forbidden?!
C'mon man, I wouldn't say it if it wasn't the case. That said, if it's not good and everyone else can't do it, I will have someone draft for me. The problem is that other days would have to be later and there are those like aMD that can't do it late and I can't early.
Dude, don't hate the MLS. Don't get me wrong, I watch the EPL, Serie A and La Liga. BUT, it's nice to see a league that slowly but surely has been making just the right amount of progress and it is here to stay.
The new soccer only, intimate venues they've built in places like Toronto, Chicago, and Colombus are beautiful and have created great atmospheres. Anyways, live MLS isn't like the Chelsea/AC Milan match I went to go see 3 weeks ago but it's still good stuff.
And dude, there's nothing wrong with going to Bucco games. :)
My brother and I are going to Chiefs vs Chargers at Arrowhead. I don't really have a team, but I think I'm going to be a Chiefs fan. We've made this into a little tradition. Go to KC, and try a different BBQ spot. This year we're going back to the original Arthur Bryant's. Had to, it's been too long. Gonna check up the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum also.
what about wednesday september 9th?
I don't know if they'll let us draft that late and count week one, but other than that I don't care as long as I'm awake.
" Note: Drafts must be completed no later than the Sunday BEFORE the week you wish scoring to begin. "
Sounds to me like if we draft on the 9th, we won't be able to start scoring until Week 2 and I'd rather not do that.
Let's just switch to the original date and time we agreed on, August 26th. I don't care that it's my bday, it'll give me a reason to look forward to that day. And you all might get lucky and I'll get too drunk to think straight (not likely though, since it's a weeknight)
btw, Capn if you didn't go to Bucs games I'd have to give you shit for being a fair weather fan. Being a lifelong Bengals and Reds fan, I think there is great honor in sticking by your team, even after decades of failure.
I'm good with the 26th. Ruckus?
QuoteI'm good with the 26th. Ruckus?
Thanks a lot guys! :) I really appreciate it. I'll make sure I draft a crappy team to make up for the inconvenience.
My b'day present to aMD.
We're now set for the 26th at 7 Eastern.
Not changing it again. ;)
bout to start my 3rd mock draft tonight. i think im finally officially in FF mode 8-)
thought my first team was sick since I had Fitz, Megatron, and CJ3 after 3 rounds (and it was PPR), and then I find out you get 1 pt/10 return yards.
who the F awards return yards like rushing/receiving yards?! WTF?!!
If Dark isn't back in time, let me know. The closer it gets, the more i'm regretting quitting. :-[
Sounds good, Jon. If we don't hear anything from him by Saturday or so, we'll let you know. I'd rather not be scrambling to find someone to fill the slot the day before the draft.
The Yark posted this weekend. If he didn't PM you back we need to make sure Jon gets signed up.
Looks like Bad Motherfuckers is back! Glad you had a change of heart, Jon.
Not that I wouldn't have enjoyed kicking the snot out of Yark...
Yup! I'm in...again. Thanks for having me back, guys. Now to kick your dicks in the dirt!
aMD, I'll make those changes this evening. I meant to do it several days ago but there has been a lot of stuff happening at once. I should have some free time tonight if my meeting goes well in a half hour.
Alright. We should be set up for DB, DL and D player. I didn't see D Flex so I assume D player is the D Flex.
Also, I updated Defensive scoring. Is that something you guys can view to make sure it's correct?
QuoteYup! I'm in...again. Thanks for having me back, guys. Now to kick your dicks in the dirt!
Hey Favre. How's it hangin?
Derrick Mason? Daunte Culpepper? ;D
QuoteQuoteYup! I'm in...again. Thanks for having me back, guys. Now to kick your dicks in the dirt!
Hey Favre. How's it hangin?
Fair enough. :-[
I just posted this on the message board on yahoo, but you still need to change it from 4 to 6 teams in the playoffs, and the playoff weeks to week 14, 15, 16
QuoteI just posted this on the message board on yahoo, but you still need to change it from 4 to 6 teams in the playoffs, and the playoff weeks to week 14, 15, 16
Good call. It wouldn't be all that bad with two less teams, but I think most people would still prefer 6 teams in.
BTW, we haven't drafted yet and this thread is already 7 pages long. This is going to be a good season!
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BTW, we haven't drafted yet and this thread is already 7 pages long. This is going to be a good season!
I think this going to a great season! Been doing mock drafts. ;) I want first or tenth pick. Got my money league draft tomorrow night. Hopefully I can get my name on the trophy. I've never got better than a 3rd pick. I'm due.
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BTW, we haven't drafted yet and this thread is already 7 pages long. This is going to be a good season!
I think this going to a great season! Been doing mock drafts. ;) I want first or tenth pick. Got my money league draft tomorrow night. Hopefully I can get my name on the trophy. I've never got better than a 3rd pick. I'm due.
I NEVER get a Top 5 pick.
Im kind of the same. I want either a top 3 pick or 9th or 10th this year. none of that draftin Fitz 7th or taking one of those risky RBs around there if I dont have to.
I definitely like drafting on or near the turns if anything because its easier to keep track of your needs and you don't have to pay as much attention to other drafters needs because you know you'll get what you need.
KEY WORD: NEED
I'm always too drunk to keep track of other drafter's draft sheets and am not clever enough to cock block.
HOnestly though, when to IDP's usually come off the board and what kind of value are you looking for. Also, how many bench defensive players you usually hold?
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HOnestly though, when to IDP's usually come off the board and what kind of value are you looking for. Also, how many bench defensive players you usually hold?
Im sure you could find mock drafts and ADP's somewhere, but anyone with IDP scoring anything like ours would be crazy to take an IDP before the 10th round or so, and those are the elite guys (who usually arent much better than the next couple tiers). Then again, I never draft Team D's in the 8th, 9th, 10th but some people do, so I guess it depends on your drafting style.
I forget our roster size, but I recommend no bench IDP players or 1 player tops. Considering we only have 1 player for each position, the free agent pool will have tons of options, unlike the offensive skill positions. When you only have the 10 best gone, youre starting them every week but their bye week.
Theyre basically like kickers considering there isnt much of a difference between the best and the worst - at least thats the case with our IDP starter requirements.
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HOnestly though, when to IDP's usually come off the board and what kind of value are you looking for. Also, how many bench defensive players you usually hold?
Im sure you could find mock drafts and ADP's somewhere, but anyone with IDP scoring anything like ours would be crazy to take an IDP before the 10th round or so, and those are the elite guys (who usually arent much better than the next couple tiers). Then again, I never draft Team D's in the 8th, 9th, 10th but some people do, so I guess it depends on your drafting style.
I forget our roster size, but I recommend no bench IDP players or 1 player tops. Considering we only have 1 player for each position, the free agent pool will have tons of options, unlike the offensive skill positions. When you only have the 10 best gone, youre starting them every week but their bye week.
Theyre basically like kickers considering there isnt much of a difference between the best and the worst - at least thats the case with our IDP starter requirements.
Right....until I watch you snag Patrick Willis or Jerrod Mayo in round 7 ;)
QuoteI just posted this on the message board on yahoo, but you still need to change it from 4 to 6 teams in the playoffs, and the playoff weeks to week 14, 15, 16
Done.
Does anyone know of a good site that will have good reports on players that are current in terms of injuries, contract disputes, etc?
I've been trying to keep track of this stuff as best as I can, but it seems like there are a hell of a lot of injuries so far in pre-season and I don't want to fuck around and draft someone that's not gonna play for the first 4 weeks or something like that.
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HOnestly though, when to IDP's usually come off the board and what kind of value are you looking for. Also, how many bench defensive players you usually hold?
Im sure you could find mock drafts and ADP's somewhere, but anyone with IDP scoring anything like ours would be crazy to take an IDP before the 10th round or so, and those are the elite guys (who usually arent much better than the next couple tiers). Then again, I never draft Team D's in the 8th, 9th, 10th but some people do, so I guess it depends on your drafting style.
I forget our roster size, but I recommend no bench IDP players or 1 player tops. Considering we only have 1 player for each position, the free agent pool will have tons of options, unlike the offensive skill positions. When you only have the 10 best gone, youre starting them every week but their bye week.
Theyre basically like kickers considering there isnt much of a difference between the best and the worst - at least thats the case with our IDP starter requirements.
Right....until I watch you snag Patrick Willis or Jerrod Mayo in round 7 ;)
Willis is considered one of the best LB's, but pointwise he was still the 3rd best LB last yr in most systems. Not like he dominated or something and should be taken a couple rounds before all other IDP's
I havent crunched IDP stats really, but I dont think Mayo is top 10 LB. If he is, he barely is, and thats basically my point. The difference between most of the guys isnt that much when you only start 1 at each position. Them getting Adalius Thomas back wont benefit his numbers either.
Im not going to wipe your ass and give you some fresh Pampers on all things IDP's, but Im not going to lie to you either. If you take an IDP before youve filled your starting offensive lineup, and/or a really solid backup at RB and/or WR or even QB depending on your starter, youre hurting your team more than helping it by picking a top IDP.
Considering this is the first year half the league or so has done it, I wont be surprised if theres a run on them or something, but even then it doesnt make it the right move. Joining in on a run more often than not is the wrong move, but that depends on NEEDS :D
If they change Chad's status to a WR/K I might have to take him in the first round!
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HOnestly though, when to IDP's usually come off the board and what kind of value are you looking for. Also, how many bench defensive players you usually hold?
Im sure you could find mock drafts and ADP's somewhere, but anyone with IDP scoring anything like ours would be crazy to take an IDP before the 10th round or so, and those are the elite guys (who usually arent much better than the next couple tiers). Then again, I never draft Team D's in the 8th, 9th, 10th but some people do, so I guess it depends on your drafting style.
I forget our roster size, but I recommend no bench IDP players or 1 player tops. Considering we only have 1 player for each position, the free agent pool will have tons of options, unlike the offensive skill positions. When you only have the 10 best gone, youre starting them every week but their bye week.
Theyre basically like kickers considering there isnt much of a difference between the best and the worst - at least thats the case with our IDP starter requirements.
Right....until I watch you snag Patrick Willis or Jerrod Mayo in round 7 ;)
Willis is considered one of the best LB's, but pointwise he was still the 3rd best LB last yr in most systems. Not like he dominated or something and should be taken a couple rounds before all other IDP's
I havent crunched IDP stats really, but I dont think Mayo is top 10 LB. If he is, he barely is, and thats basically my point. The difference between most of the guys isnt that much when you only start 1 at each position. Them getting Adalius Thomas back wont benefit his numbers either.
Im not going to wipe your ass and give you some fresh Pampers on all things IDP's, but Im not going to lie to you either. If you take an IDP before youve filled your starting offensive lineup, and/or a really solid backup at RB and/or WR or even QB depending on your starter, youre hurting your team more than helping it by picking a top IDP.
Considering this is the first year half the league or so has done it, I wont be surprised if theres a run on them or something, but even then it doesnt make it the right move. Joining in on a run more often than not is the wrong move, but that depends on NEEDS :D
Just kiddin' around. Thanks for the input though. Makes perfect sense to me.
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Does anyone know of a good site that will have good reports on players that are current in terms of injuries, contract disputes, etc?
I've been trying to keep track of this stuff as best as I can, but it seems like there are a hell of a lot of injuries so far in pre-season and I don't want to fuck around and draft someone that's not gonna play for the first 4 weeks or something like that.
I like this website... http://www.rotoworld.com/ It's really good, I think.
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Does anyone know of a good site that will have good reports on players that are current in terms of injuries, contract disputes, etc?
I've been trying to keep track of this stuff as best as I can, but it seems like there are a hell of a lot of injuries so far in pre-season and I don't want to fuck around and draft someone that's not gonna play for the first 4 weeks or something like that.
I like this website... http://www.rotoworld.com/ It's really good, I think.
I have been a member of http://thehuddle.com/ for a long time, it's a pay site but it gives you everything you need IMO.
QuoteIf they change Chad's status to a WR/K I might have to take him in the first round!
you'd still get the FG and XP points even if he was only WR eligible though, right??
I dont think being K eligible would help anyway since most K's outscored him last year ;D
He's def been making Hard Knocks entertaining though
Thanks, Walts.
Do we have bench spots? Maybe I should double check because I check "MY TEAM" and it didn't seem to have bench players.
My bad if it was a mere cursory glance
They should still be there from last year, but it wouldn't hurt to double check.
I checked the Commish Tools>Roster Positions and we have 7 BN spots. Since we're using IDPs, should that be upped?
QuoteDo we have bench spots? Maybe I should double check because I check "MY TEAM" and it didn't seem to have bench players.
My bad if it was a mere cursory glance
we have 7 bench spots - look under scoring & settings. im always a proponent of big benches, but considering we have 2 flex spots, that seems adequate.
double time!
since youre here corey, you know if there is anyway to set it up so the draft order is determined earlier than a half hour before the draft?
i hate barely having any time to gameplan my draft slot and figure out players to target each round.
EDIT: and since Ruckus just brought it up and I was looking at that page, a couple things I'd like to put out there:
1) I think we should have fractional points. It makes it as realistic as possible, and there are never ties.
2) I care about this less, but its 1pt/30pass yards. Ive always played 1pt/every 20 or 25yds. Id assume everyone else usually has that scoring as well. Not sure if no one cares, or if nobody noticed.
Quotedouble time!
since youre here corey, you know if there is anyway to set it up so the draft order is determined earlier than a half hour before the draft?
i hate barely having any time to gameplan my draft slot and figure out players to target each round.
EDIT: and since Ruckus just brought it up and I was looking at that page, a couple things I'd like to put out there:
1) I think we should have fractional points. It makes it as realistic as possible, and there are never ties.
2) I care about this less, but its 1pt/30pass yards. Ive always played 1pt/every 20 or 25yds. Id assume everyone else usually has that scoring as well. Not sure if no one cares, or if nobody noticed.
Thanks Guys. I'm an idiot.
I'm cool with 30 passing yards. I've never done that before but heck, every league I play, QBs get 6 points for passing TDS so....
The fun of a draft is the randomness of the order. This isn't the real NFL. In our live draft league we do here at a sports bar, I have everyone put their name in a hat then pick one by one so nobody knows where they are picking until their name is pulled and they are immediately put on the clock. Makes it fun :D
These are the draft options:
Random Order, Snaking (Standard)
Order will be automatically set 30 minutes prior to draft. Team with first pick of Round 1 will be last pick of Round 2.
Custom Order and Keeper League Players
Set the draft order, choose snaking or non-snaking, assign keeper player selections to any team in any round.
I like the idea of it being a surprise until the last minute as well. Keeps it exciting. I'll be nervous about it all day. :)
Fractional points and passing have been changed. Seems like we had an issue last year where fractional points would have made a difference, so I went ahead and changed that just now. The passing is now set for 1 point for every 25 yards.
Hey Corey. Just let Headdy commish the next league. Save ya a lot of work ;) ;D
;D
I'm cool with fractional points, but I think we should keep a random draft order.
QuoteI'm cool with fractional points, but I think we should keep a random draft order.
With fractional points every yard counts. I'm for it.
In my money league I had the 9th pick. I'll never get the first pick...ever!
I had 2nd pick in one of my leagues last year. It was great because I got AP, but it felt like I had to wait forever to get my next pick.
Last year = Year of the Wideout
This year = Year of the Pats
I went over the top with Pats this year. I'll try not to do that in the Jacket league.
Draft is Wednesday. Woo-hoo!
QuoteDraft is Wednesday. Woo-hoo!
I wasn't sure if it would work out, but I will in fact be able to make the draft.
QuoteQuoteDraft is Wednesday. Woo-hoo!
I wasn't sure if it would work out, but I will in fact be able to make the draft.
Who are you again?
QuoteQuoteQuoteDraft is Wednesday. Woo-hoo!
I wasn't sure if it would work out, but I will in fact be able to make the draft.
Who are you again?
this is true, i changed my name so i could be like Yim Yames.
Did we discuss upping our bench by a couple of extra slots? We have 7 BN spots now.
I just finished my other draft that has 7 BN slots, but we're using team DEF over there. Seems like we may want a couple of extra slots since we're using IDPs.
My dumb-ass didn't draft a backup K or DEF because I was trying to load up on RBs and WRs. I also got a backup QB and TE though.
Ruckus for double ass award.
Something came up so I can't draft tomorrow. Sorry guys. I got a buddy going for me tomorrow. He's a fantasy guru but don't let him act the fool and pretend to be me. ;D
Happy Drafting everyone
Seems to me that 7 bench spots is already too much with 12 teams. But I've never done ISP before so I don't know. I'm not sure i can draft line tonight and there is nothing worse than autopick. Bummer.
Can you get someone else to fill in for you?
Possibly. Will it mess anything up if I autodraft? I should find out in next couple hours if I can do it live or not.
Seven bench slots is fine.
It won't mess anything up for us if you autodraft, but you'll have to deal with taking a K in the ninth round (no way to get around that in yahoo autodrafts)
I like the idea of having at least an extra bench slot because I like to have a couple of my slots for RBs and another slot or two for WRs, but if you guys think we're good with 7 then I guess that'll fly. It just makes me nervous since we have extra players on the roster this year. :-/
That's true, one more might be called for with the new positions. You make the call commish, but make it soon. We draft in a matter of hours.
Yeah, I started to freak out about it last night which is why I posted to get a response from you guys. One more slot would really make me calm down a bit. 2 would probably be overkill.
That will give us 20 man rosters. With 12 teams there wont //be shit left on waivers. I'm good either way just something to think about. I think I'm good to go tonight!
All I need is a starting lineup so "it don't matter to the jesus " ;D
Good point. But we'll all have some holes on the bench if we don't have 8 bench spots.
I'm sure we all want a backup QB with at least one if not two RBs. Let's say we take an extra TE as well. That's 4 players without an extra WR.
Shit. This IDP thing is makin' me nervous. :)
Where's Headdy? I'm sure he has an opinion. ;D
20 man rosters are deep. Agree with others that there will be nothing left on waivers. If nothing else it will keep people from hording IDP players.
:D
I changed it to 8 a little while ago. Now I feel like I'm being strong-armed into changing it back to 7. But hey, majority rules. :)
It's your league Corey, I'm cool with almost any rules as long as they are set before the draft.
;D
QuoteIt's your league Corey, I'm cool with almost any rules as long as they are set before the draft.
;D
Agreed. In fact, I'd almost rather you not change it so I will have an excuse if I don't win. ;D
I dont really care if its 7 or 8, not a big difference. Since there's already 6 starting slots for RBs and WRs combined, I doubt anybody has more than a couple on the bench for each position, more than that and the guys probably arent worth rostering anyway.
...and damn you Ruckus, now I cant talk shit about your shitty team! ;D ;)
QuoteThat will give us 20 man rosters. With 12 teams there wont //be shit left on waivers. I'm good either way just something to think about. I think I'm good to go tonight!
All I need is a starting lineup so "it don't matter to the jesus " ;D
We're only a ten team league this year so it won't be so bad. 8 sounds good, corey
Alright. 8 it is. I'm stickin' to it! :)
arghhh...the suspense is killing me. lets get this show on the road!! :D
Quotearghhh...the suspense is killing me. lets get this show on the road!! :D
agreed. Tired of all these mock drafts. Hopefully I won't collapse like I did last year.
Let's do this shiat!
I almost forgot about the draft. I need number 1!
the 4th or 5th pick is where I would like to land. I would be happy with the last pick too.
This is what the rate my team program I just used told me:
Bottom line:
* With great inseason management, we think you have about a 99 percent chance of making the playoffs.
* With good inseason management, we think you have about a 99 percent chance of making the playoffs.
* With average inseason management, we think you have a 92 percent chance of making the playoffs.
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8-)
VICTORY!!
Nice.
I still can't believe I had the first pick in 2 different drafts. While I was really excited about it last night before the draft, that quickly changed when I had to wait forever for my 2nd pick. I would probably prefer to be in the middle somewhere.
So as I mentioned before, I took AP in both drafts. I'm kinda second-guessing myself on that one and wish that maybe I'd should have shaken things up a bit. I'll entertain any reasonable offers. :)
But then again, it'd have to be a damn good deal.
Well I hope it went well for everyone. I was on the phone with my buddy who drafted for me a few times throughout and we had some hiccups, particularly when he timed out and it autodrafted Akers ;D
Oh well. I also told him to take Willis and Ware on the turn because I thought that Ware was DL eligible. THat sucked!
So, that said, Justin Tuck or Demarcus Ware are available for a trade.
I just checked out the rosters and man, I think Crispy's team is stacked.
Brilliant drafting I say, Brilliant [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
My computer lays a turd a anytime any kind of messaging is involved. This was no exception. I got to actually draft one person (forte) and the rest were auto picked. That being said, my team isn't as bad as iexpected. I apologize if y'all had to wait on me to time out everytime.
I checked out the most of the teams just now. Some interesting choices, to say the least. I saw a couple of teams that didn't have a 3-man D yet, but are loaded at the RB slot.
Since this was my first time with IDPs, I was sketchy on when I should start drafting and what I should get for the bench. I think I have it mostly how I want it, but I'll have to end up dropping a RB at some point to get a backup TE and K.
QuoteI checked out the most of the teams just now. Some interesting choices, to say the least. I saw a couple of teams that didn't have a 3-man D yet, but are loaded at the RB slot.
Since this was my first time with IDPs, I was sketchy on when I should start drafting and what I should get for the bench. I think I have it mostly how I want it, but I'll have to end up dropping a RB at some point to get a backup TE and K.
I actually have 3 IDPs, since Mario Williams was the 1st one picked though it put him in D flex so Ruud was on my bench. I do think my RB's are stacked though. And the RBs and WRs on my bench are all upside.
I thought I was stacked with the 8RBs I have, but Walt has 9 and is missing 2 IDP's ;D
I'm looking for a solid running back. I'm stacked at WR.
I wasn't prepared for the RBs to go as quickly as they did, but I feel like I'm stacked at WR and have a few RBs with the potential to have breakout years. I did okay but could have a great year depending on how everything plays out.
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I thought I was stacked with the 8RBs I have, but Walt has 9 and is missing 2 IDP's ;D
Yeah, I didn't have a clue on IDP's, and the draft window didn't allow me to see my bye weeks. (Cassel and Brady same bye) I figure there's still a bunch of IDP left, so I'll be alright. Just gonna wait for them all to get off waivers first. I fucked up on the McClain pick, I can't believe I did that, fucking stupid! So dropping a couple of players shouldn't be too hard.
I feel like I jumped the gun on Witten. Last couple years I've been stuck without a good TE.
McClain not's a bad pick. He's going to get the TD's just maybe not the yards.
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I thought I was stacked with the 8RBs I have, but Walt has 9 and is missing 2 IDP's ;D
Yeah, I didn't have a clue on IDP's, and the draft window didn't allow me to see my bye weeks. (Cassel and Brady same bye) I figure there's still a bunch of IDP left, so I'll be alright. Just gonna wait for them all to get off waivers first. I fucked up on the McClain pick, I can't believe I did that, fucking stupid! So dropping a couple of players shouldn't be too hard.
There's plenty of good IDP's out there still. Moreso than normal because only half the league or a little more actually did their homework and picked players worth rostering. Id jump on DL though because there are the fewest of those.
Yeah, I dont like McClain this year at all. He's going to play more traditional FB role, Rice is going to be featured, and I would expect McGahee to have a similar numbers as last year or better. If one were to get injured though, he'll be decent. Maroney isnt worth rostering, so you basically got you 2 players there.
When are we able to drop players and sign FA's?
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looks like tomorrow
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I thought I was stacked with the 8RBs I have, but Walt has 9 and is missing 2 IDP's ;D
Yeah, I didn't have a clue on IDP's, and the draft window didn't allow me to see my bye weeks. (Cassel and Brady same bye) I figure there's still a bunch of IDP left, so I'll be alright. Just gonna wait for them all to get off waivers first. I fucked up on the McClain pick, I can't believe I did that, fucking stupid! So dropping a couple of players shouldn't be too hard.
There's plenty of good IDP's out there still. Moreso than normal because only half the league or a little more actually did their homework and picked players worth rostering. Id jump on DL though because there are the fewest of those.
Yeah, I dont like McClain this year at all. He's going to play more traditional FB role, Rice is going to be featured, and I would expect McGahee to have a similar numbers as last year or better. If one were to get injured though, he'll be decent. Maroney isnt worth rostering, so you basically got you 2 players there.
That's what pissed me off, I knew Ray Rice would be the feature back, but for some stupidass reason I didn't draft him. I realize what I did, and then you drafted Ray Rice, like a dick. I see where you're going with this Headdy, that's right I'm on to you. You want me to drop McClain AND Maroney so you can have the most RB's, well, that's NOT going to happen! I actually won't be dropping Maroney. I have a gut instinct telling me that he could get his shit together this year. After-all this is the Year of The Patroit! I can't wait for AMD to throw that one is my face. He didn't stop himself from mentioning the Year of The Wideout from last year. Maybe I need to shut up. ;D
I have to admit that I didn't do my homework on IDPs like I should have. :-[
I didn't do my homework either, i let autopick pick my IDP's and some of my bench.
QuoteI have to admit that I didn't do my homework on IDPs like I should have. :-[
your guys are pretty good, true needs help though
I felt pretty good about my picks. I knew I wanted Allen for sure. Everybody after that was a toss-up.
QuoteI just checked out the rosters and man, I think Crispy's team is stacked.
Brilliant drafting I say, Brilliant [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
Autodraft rules! ;)
Damn it, AMD added James Harrison. I couldn't find him on that list during the draft. I made some changes on my defense, how'd I do Headdy?
I had my money league draft today. There's 8 teams, so almost everyone's team looks good. Here's my team:
QB - Tom Brady
WR - Larry Fitzgerald, Marques Colston, Chad Ochocinco
RB - Steven Jackson, Clinton Portis
TE - Chris Cooley
K - David Akers
D - Dallas
Bench - Ronnie Brown, Bernard Berrian, Willie Parker, Lendale White, Kevin Walter
QuoteDamn it, AMD added James Harrison. I couldn't find him on that list during the draft. I made some changes on my defense, how'd I do Headdy?
I had my money league draft today. There's 8 teams, so almost everyone's team looks good. Here's my team:
QB - Tom Brady
WR - Larry Fitzgerald, Marques Colston, Chad Ochocinco
RB - Steven Jackson, Clinton Portis
TE - Chris Cooley
K - David Akers
D - Dallas
Bench - Ronnie Brown, Bernard Berrian, Willie Parker, Lendale White, Kevin Walter
Mayo will be good, McGee is decent, I doubt Haynesworth is worth having. I dont think any DT is, unless all the good sack artist DE's are gone.
That team looks good. I dont know how you got Brady, Fitz, and S-Jax, but I think that team will live and die with S-Jax. Ronnie Brown I think has upside and should be a steady #3 RB for you. LenDale would be huge if CJ3 goes down. Your WR's look solid, although if Ocho doesnt return to form, theyre probably below average foran 8 team league, but im not sure.
looks like a solid team, but like you said, they all look good with only 8 teams. Jackson is they key IMO.
QuoteQuoteDamn it, AMD added James Harrison. I couldn't find him on that list during the draft. I made some changes on my defense, how'd I do Headdy?
I had my money league draft today. There's 8 teams, so almost everyone's team looks good. Here's my team:
QB - Tom Brady
WR - Larry Fitzgerald, Marques Colston, Chad Ochocinco
RB - Steven Jackson, Clinton Portis
TE - Chris Cooley
K - David Akers
D - Dallas
Bench - Ronnie Brown, Bernard Berrian, Willie Parker, Lendale White, Kevin Walter
Mayo will be good, McGee is decent, I doubt Haynesworth is worth having. I dont think any DT is, unless all the good sack artist DE's are gone.
That team looks good. I dont know how you got Brady, Fitz, and S-Jax, but I think that team will live and die with S-Jax. Ronnie Brown I think has upside and should be a steady #3 RB for you. LenDale would be huge if CJ3 goes down. Your WR's look solid, although if Ocho doesnt return to form, theyre probably below average foran 8 team league, but im not sure.
looks like a solid team, but like you said, they all look good with only 8 teams. Jackson is they key IMO.
I had the seventh pick in round one. Jackson was my first pick, then Fitz, and Brady was my third pick. Aaron Rodgers was selected first overall. :o
QuoteQuoteQuoteDamn it, AMD added James Harrison. I couldn't find him on that list during the draft. I made some changes on my defense, how'd I do Headdy?
I had my money league draft today. There's 8 teams, so almost everyone's team looks good. Here's my team:
QB - Tom Brady
WR - Larry Fitzgerald, Marques Colston, Chad Ochocinco
RB - Steven Jackson, Clinton Portis
TE - Chris Cooley
K - David Akers
D - Dallas
Bench - Ronnie Brown, Bernard Berrian, Willie Parker, Lendale White, Kevin Walter
Mayo will be good, McGee is decent, I doubt Haynesworth is worth having. I dont think any DT is, unless all the good sack artist DE's are gone.
That team looks good. I dont know how you got Brady, Fitz, and S-Jax, but I think that team will live and die with S-Jax. Ronnie Brown I think has upside and should be a steady #3 RB for you. LenDale would be huge if CJ3 goes down. Your WR's look solid, although if Ocho doesnt return to form, theyre probably below average foran 8 team league, but im not sure.
looks like a solid team, but like you said, they all look good with only 8 teams. Jackson is they key IMO.
I had the seventh pick in round one. Jackson was my first pick, then Fitz, and Brady was my third pick. Aaron Rodgers was selected first overall. :o
What league are you in where Rodgers goes 1st? ;D ;D I do think he will have a hell of a year though.
I actually believe you have a decent to good receiving core even in an eight team league. A healthy Colston could have another huge year and Fitz is Fitz.
Ha, I got Fitz and Colston in our league so I gotta give ya love :)
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My team this year:
Drew Brees
Brett Favre
Ryan Grant
Reggie Bush
Felix Jones
Jamal Lewis
Shonn Greene
Jerious Norwood
Steve Smith
Roy Williams
Percy Harvin
Devin Hester
Devery Henderson
Visanthe Shiancoe
Heath Miller
Robbie Gould
Chicago Bears
If you can't tell, I'm a Bears fan...not sure what to think of this team...a lot of flash but maybe a little short on consistency. Part of my thinking was just to take some dangerous players off the board, keeping them from other teams...Harvin, Hester, Jones are all gambles but I could see any of them putting up huge numbers in a given week, same with Bush and Steve Smith
I usually try to critique teams positively, but Im not liking your team too much. I like Ryan Grant, but as a #2 RB. I like Bush and especially Jones a good bit, but both are gambles like you said because of injuries and touches, respectively. If you had 1 other workhorse RB ahead of them, your RBs would be very good. If you only start 2 and dont have a flex, you should be able to get by. Norwood will be big for your team if Turner goes down.
IMO Roy Williams is overrated and I expect him to put up WR3 numbers more often than WR2. I like Hester, but neither of your other WRs have high floors (like say, Driver or Mason) and I have a feeling neither will be on your roster by mid-season so they dont give you much help if Hester doesnt pan out. Based on what Ive been reading and hearing, you might be better off dropping Henderson for Robert Meachem. Im pretty sure he's already ahead of Henderson on the depth chart.
Your TE's are borderline starters in a 12 team league (which Im assuming yours is) so youre not going to make up slack here. I dont see Shiancoe ending up the 5th best TE again, but stranger things have happened.
To go far youre defintiely going to need to hope Brees puts up another huge year, Grant ends up a Top 10 RB, Bush stays healthy, Jones stays healthy and is consistent enough to start weekly, and Roy Williams puts up numbers youd expect from Romo's #1 WR.
Not trying to hate, thats just a lot you need to have go your way.
WHOA!
Walt - how many shots of Rumplemintz did you have to accept that trade from Ruckus?! Its terrible.
COLLUSION!!
All good points Headdy. I picked Brees with my first pick, Steve Smith with my 2nd...maybe too high for Smith? You didn't mention him at all in your critique? There weren't many running backs to pick from by the time my pick rolled around in the 3rd round, so I had to go with Grant. I'm in a keeper league, so there were a LOT of good players held from last year...if I can find the list of who was kept I'll post it here, but it took a lot of good players off the board right away. Unfortunately, I had no one worth keeping, as I had a terrible team last year, so I kept the Bears D...it was admittedly a "homer" pick, but I really had no one else I wanted to keep. I am definitely counting on Brees to have a BIG year, and Roy Williams to at least put up decent numbers. I tried to get a few consistent guys and then went all out for the flashy players with high ceilings, if nothing else to keep them off other guys' rosters. We'll see if it works.
I figured your draft went: Brees, Smith, Grant, Bush, Williams, Jones...
I like Smith, but I have 6 WRs ranked ahead of him but Jennings and Boldin barely. If you took him in the 2nd, you either passed over a couple of the other guys, or they were gone because you had a late 2nd (and if thats the scenario, you must have picked Brees top 5 which is too early for my blood).
I would think there would have been a RB better than Bush available in the 4th, WR better than Roy in the 5th, and an RB better than Jones in the 6th, but I dont know. I think that set you back more than Smith or Brees.
I have no idea why you kept the Bears D though. There had to be someone on your team better than a defense youd take in the 10th round.
Here was my team last year:
Tony Romo - couldn't keep
Matt Cassell
Jamal Lewis
Larry Johnson - couldn't keep
Willie Parker - couldn't keep
Brandon Jacobs - couldn't keep
Steve Breaston
Wes Welker - couldn't keep
Hines Ward
Ted Ginn
Marvin Harrison
Santana Moss
Desmond Clark
Dustin Keller
Robbie Gould
Bears D
Titans D
See anyone that really jumps out at you as a keeper? I didn't. Maybe the Titans D, but again, the Bears D was a homer pick. Usually, at least in the league I'm in, the D very rarely makes or breaks you, and none of those other players seemed worth keeping to me, or they were at least easily replaceable.
The keepers this year, guys who were off limits before the draft started:
Greg Jennings
Michael Turner
Calvin Johnson
Steve Slaton
DeAngelo Williams
Bears Team D - mine
Jason Witten
Matt Forte
Phillip Rivers
Chris Johnson
No matter who I picked from last year, they wouldn't have stacked up with ANY of these keepers...no offense Santana Moss
QuoteWHOA!
Walt - how many shots of Rumplemintz did you have to accept that trade from Ruckus?! Its terrible.
COLLUSION!!
It comes down to a thing called an everyday player. Berrian is not worth anything to me if sits on the bench, but could be worth someone to you. I'm getting a starter, someone who will play every week. I will only gain 20 points by doing this trade, but 20 points is a improvement, whether ranking or your opinion says different.
QuoteThe keepers this year, guys who were off limits before the draft started:
Greg Jennings
Michael Turner
Calvin Johnson
Steve Slaton
DeAngelo Williams
Bears Team D - mine
Jason Witten
Matt Forte
Phillip Rivers
Chris Johnson
No matter who I picked from last year, they wouldn't have stacked up with ANY of these keepers...no offense Santana Moss
Im assuming you couldnt keep those guys on the other page because youve kept them their maximum amount of years, but Hines Ward (or Santana Moss) is definitely worth more to keep than a defense.
How thin your WR's are after Williams pretty much substantiates that.
QuoteQuoteWHOA!
Walt - how many shots of Rumplemintz did you have to accept that trade from Ruckus?! Its terrible.
COLLUSION!!
It comes down to a thing called an everyday player. Berrian is not worth anything to me if sits on the bench, but could be worth someone to you. I'm getting a starter, someone who will play every week. I will only gain 20 points by doing this trade, but 20 points is a improvement, whether ranking or your opinion says different.
Since when is the bench not valuable?! The bench usually decides what teams are the best, because undoubtedly, everyone's team will have injuries.
Just look at your own team - Moreno and J-Stewart have both been injured all preseason and possibly wont even get touches week 1. Berrian is an easy start that week, especially considering Stewart plays Philly. So he's already a starter for you. Not only that, but you have Holmes in your starting lineup, and Berrian got 36 more points then him last year.
I dont know where youre getting this "20 points" thing from. There's a LB on the WW who got only 7 less pts than Ware last year. Ray Lewis on your team only have 15pts less than Ware last year (less than a point per game). And mark my words, Ware will not put up 20 sacks again. Expect his ending point total to be 25pts or so less than last year.
Moreover, only 1 WR thats available is within 45 points of what Berrian put up last year - with Travis Jackson throwing to him - and thats Isaac Bruce, who I doubt comes anywhere close to his 08 numbers.
You logic is flawed. First, you cant base everything off last year. Second, just because a guy is on your bench doesnt mean he isnt valuable. Based on what your saying, if your RBs were stacked and you had Ronnie Brown on your bench, youd trade him for Domenik Hixon because he could start for you because your WR's are weak. Trades dont make sense unless youre getting what your player's worth in return.
Bravo to Ruckus, because he is swindling you like a streetside card game. But if not enough people notice the trade and vote against, ill be kind of pissed because its extremely one sided in Ruckus' favor. Youve never done IDP's so maybe its hard for you to understand, but theres a reason a "bench player" like Berrian went over a round before any IDP's even went off the board
Here's the deal with you. You watch your fantasy football videos, you read blogs, and have 5 mags. Pretty much a joke. You think you have all this expert advice, and that you're an expert....you're not. But reading your past messages, it's almost that you think you are. Fantasy Football is a joke, and I don't take it that seriously. You give a random chick a magazine and tell her to draft, chances are she'll field a competitive team. If there's one thing I've learned by "know it all's" like you, is that I have more fun watching you lose. Fantasy Football is easy to win, and not hard to play. So please keep your mouth shut, because at the end of the season, your mouth could have a dick in it.
I dont know it all, but I do know what Im talking about. Ive done this long enough where I dont use all that shit, I just do my own projections, plug em into the scoring system, and go with it. Sure there is luck involved, just like any fantasy sport, but hurting your team with retarded trades doesnt make your team more likely to win, its actually the opposite.
Just trying to help you out with future endeavors, brah.
Im interested to see if Ruckus thinks youre getting beat as bad as I do.
You're not a know it all? What? Has anyone else played the critic? No. I love how you said not to go off of last year, but quickly pointed out that Holmes had less points than Berrian. So you can talk about last year? Oh, and way to go out on a limb about Ware. 20 sacks to going to tough to do. What blog did you read to have figure that one out? I also love the "I've been doing this long enough" line. I NEVER heard that one before. Face it, you're a fantasy football Nazi, and you think you can predict the future like Ms. Cleo. I just prefer for you to keep your piggy mouth shut about my team, and anyone else. Because at the end of year, you could easily be last holding your 5 wasted magazines and we all will be laughing at you.
I critique stuff because I love football and fantasy football, especially this time of the year. It might not be right, but its my opinion. Sorry its negative towards your team, but that be the truth. Ignore it if you dont like it.
Im not Nostradamus, but I could ask the Alabama Leprechaun if this trade was bad for you and it would tell me hell yes.
If my team doesnt make the playoffs, I wont play next year. I think its that stacked.
Tracy would be happy right now. 8-)
Jeebus! The ole Cap'n don't know when to lay off the gas pedal. No pun intended though I just read about your ticket. (Challenge it, then postpone it less than a week before your court date. Attend the new date and hope the cop doesn't show or leaves his papers and plead NG. Good to go).
As for the trade, I only offered it because I fucked up over the phone in my draft. I just assumed that Ware was DE eligible hence the Ware Willis turn I made. Stuck with two top IDP's of the same position, I offered the top one up. Now I regret not offering him for a RB because I lack serious depth there but I'm glad that I got Berrian for matchups.
I see what you're saying Cap'n but you are coming off as a Nazi which I know you like to do. One thing you ignore with Ware is he too is a great matchup play against weaker teams being forced to pass early in games and so can actually payoff paired with another LB with more balance to rack up tackles in other matchups.
Berrian is like Lee Evans. A manager's nightmare. He'll go scoreless for 2 games than go off for 30pts. You never know what you are getting and actually, Tarvaris Jackson has the arm to throw to him on straight fly routes that Mr. Favre is not even close to being able to do. I would bank on Sydney Rice to have a more solid season.
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I'd like to add that I don't believe that this is the type of trade that one should veto and I have faith that the rest of the league won't. This was a one for one, position for position trade. Positional scarcity should not be considered. Unless it's obvious collusion which of course it is not, no worries. Walts did not just trade me Berrian for Andre Johnson or AP.
I dont think it's collusion, I said that more as a joke, but considering our roster requirements (only start 1 LB, anywhere from 2-4 WR's), Berrian is much more valuable and the trade is unfairly one sided. Whats done is done though, so I dont really care anymore.
Everyone thought I was crazy last year and a homer when I said I think Pittsburgh will win the super bowl or has a strong chance to because it was "your OLine sucks" this and "you dont have a good enough running game" that, and well...how'd that turn out?? 8-)
And since when were you a Tracy fan, Walt? :-? ;D
I have no problem with anyone thinking that the trade was unfair, and wanting to veto it. BUT when someone forgets their caps lock is on, makes a comment about having to be drunk to accept the trade, and screams "Whoa" like Joey Lawerence, it's a little over the top.
The only thing I remember about last year, was I think True drafted Holmes, and I called it a homer pick as a joke. I believe it was you (Headdy) who said Holmes was going to rip it up. Now you don't seem very confident in him. But anyways.
I should have used a ;), not a 8-), with the whole Tracy message. T's my boy, you know that! ;D
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The only thing I remember about last year, was I think True drafted Holmes, and I called it a homer pick as a joke. I believe it was you (Headdy) who said Holmes was going to rip it up. Now you don't seem very confident in him. But anyways.
I was high on Holmes last year, higher than I am on him this year (which isnt much...havent drafted him once). Just by watching his performances in the playoffs, clearly he's a top 20 talent, for whatever reason he disappears at times. Id say its mostly because Roeth likes to spread the ball around, gets sacked a lot which takes away targets, and Holmes just being inconsistent. The only game he had more than 5 catches last year was the superbowl, and I think our offense limits what kind of numbers he can put up, or at least while Hines is still around. Not the best comparison, but if you look at Plaxico, he only had 1 year in Pittsburgh that comes anywhere close to his numbers in NY. I think Holmes would put up Top 15 WR numbers if he were on another team or was the clear #1 WR.
I like Holmes, but I think him and Berrian are comparable with Berrian having more upside since there's less options there.
I think we all know where you stand on Berrian, Cap'n. Feel free to shut the fuck up about it at anytime.
You picked your home team to have a good year, they happen to win the superbowl, so now you're an expert. Give me a break.
I have to admit I like your team, Headdy, so I won't rip you too hard. But really, know when enough is enough.
QuoteI have no problem with anyone thinking that the trade was unfair, and wanting to veto it. BUT when someone forgets their caps lock is on, makes a comment about having to be drunk to accept the trade, and screams "Whoa" like Joey Lawerence, it's a little over the top.
The only thing I remember about last year, was I think True drafted Holmes, and I called it a homer pick as a joke. I believe it was you (Headdy) who said Holmes was going to rip it up. Now you don't seem very confident in him. But anyways.
I should have used a ;), not a 8-), with the whole Tracy message. T's my boy, you know that! ;D
Yes, I predicted him to have a breakout season last year, and I believe Headdy agreed with that. I wasn't too off basis with that, the breakout just happened to come in the playoffs. He wasn't just clutch in the Super Bowl, but was great in the other playoff games. I think he'll continue to get better.
QuoteI think we all know where you stand on Berrian, Cap'n. Feel free to shut the fuck up about it at anytime.
;D ;D ;D
QuoteI think we all know where you stand on Berrian, Cap'n. Feel free to shut the fuck up about it at anytime.
You picked your home team to have a good year, they happen to win the superbowl, so now you're an expert. Give me a break.
I have to admit I like your team, Headdy, so I won't rip you too hard. But really, know when enough is enough.
QuoteI dont think it's collusion, I said that more as a joke, but considering our roster requirements (only start 1 LB, anywhere from 2-4 WR's), Berrian is much more valuable and the trade is unfairly one sided. Whats done is done though, so I dont really care anymore.
Lavar Burton would be ashamed of your reading comprehension
QuoteQuoteI think we all know where you stand on Berrian, Cap'n. Feel free to shut the fuck up about it at anytime.
You picked your home team to have a good year, they happen to win the superbowl, so now you're an expert. Give me a break.
I have to admit I like your team, Headdy, so I won't rip you too hard. But really, know when enough is enough.
QuoteI dont think it's collusion, I said that more as a joke, but considering our roster requirements (only start 1 LB, anywhere from 2-4 WR's), Berrian is much more valuable and the trade is unfairly one sided. Whats done is done though, so I dont really care anymore.
Lavar Burton would be ashamed of your reading comprehension
Umm, I was replying to this post, which you made three hours after you said you were done.
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I like Holmes, but I think him and Berrian are comparable with Berrian having more upside since there's less options there.
My post was the next post. As Tracy would say, if you wanna mixed it up with the big boys you'll have to step up your game.
I wasnt talking about the trade there in that last one, I was talking about my prospects of Berrian vs Holmes, 2 guys that were on Walts roster as of a few days ago.
Theyre 2 different things, trust me. :)
QuoteI wasnt talking about the trade there in that last one, I was talking about my prospects of Berrian vs Holmes, 2 guys that were on Walts roster as of a few days ago.
Theyre 2 different things, trust me. :)
Why should I trust you? Because you're an expert and the rest of us are dipshits? Seriously dude,I don't give a shit about your dimestore predictions. Keep that shit to yourself.
I predict the Steelers are that much more dangerous because we finally have a return man that not only we can count on, but has the goods.
Stefan Logan is like the CFL import of Darren Sproles. You cant teach vision like that.
EDIT: we should have a contest how many "shits" someone can put into a post. oh, the hostility is killin me.
QuoteI predict the Steelers are that much more dangerous because we finally have a return man that not only we can count on, but has the goods.
Stefan Logan is like the CFL import of Darren Sproles. You cant teach vision like that.
EDIT: we should have a contest how many "shits" someone can put into a post. oh, the hostility is killin me.
God, I hope the steelers fail miserably this year and knock you off your highhorse.
Here's my prediction: the steelers won't win it all and Capt Headdy will still be a complete jackass. (Now THAT'S a safe prediction!)
Tom Brady is the only reason why the steelers won last year. Not the steelers fault, but I'll always put an asterisk by the last superbowl. ;)
I will not capitalize the S in steelers this year, I think AMD come up with that idea. 8-)
Im on a high horse because I think the team that won the super bowl last year will once again contend after losing no major players and filling to glaring weakness (punter and return man)? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Barring injury to Roethlisberger, or like 5 injuries to other key starters, theyll be right there contending with San Diego, Tennessee, Baltimore, and New England.
I actually dont see any of those teams faltering enough to not make the playoffs. I think the AFC's playoff teams are pretty predestined.
Tom Brady getting hurt on my birthday was a gift from the gods.
Why do you like the Cheaters so much, Walt?
QuoteWhy do you like the Cheaters so much, Walt?
I didn't know Walt was a fan of all the 70s steelers teams. If you think they're weren't some steroids bouncing around that lockerroom you're crazy. Talk about cheaters and asterisks.
And again, finding joy in someone else's injury is low. I'd rather a coach film a walkthru than have a lineman intentionally takeout a star QB's knees. They may teach sports in Shittsburgh but apparently class is not on the curriculum.
QuoteQuoteWhy do you like the Cheaters so much, Walt?
I didn't know Walt was a fan of all the 70s steelers teams. If you think they're weren't some steroids bouncing around that lockerroom you're crazy. Talk about cheaters and asterisks.
And again, finding joy in someone else's injury is low. I'd rather a coach film a walkthru than have a lineman intentionally takeout a star QB's knees. They may teach sports in Shittsburgh but apparently class is not on the curriculum.
Has any evidence or proof ever come out about the Steelers and roids? I dont think so, but I would guess a good amount of players probably were using them. Still, youre point doesnt have much merit because if that was the case, they were almost certainly in every other locker room. Its not like they were chemically engineering steroids in the steel mills around here and the Steelers were the only team with access to them. Baseball of the 90's was basically football until their drug policy was enforced. Do the Yankees get asterisks for their WS of the 90's because their juiced up players were better than the other teams juiced up players? Dont think so.
If there's anyone I didnt mind seeing injured, its Brady. The guys a smug asshole who for the last 5 years has thought he was the greatest thing on the planet, and since 2007 basically thought he was invincible. He doesnt get any more sympathy from me since he gets to go home to Gisele every night either.
And if youre talking about this play as intentionally trying to injure a QB, youre funnier than I thought. You sound like a Seahawks fan still crying and calling us the Stealers.
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I will not capitalize the S in steelers this year, I think AMD come up with that idea. 8-)
booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Steelers will be even better than last year. Better offense and better special teams. Defense will be just as good.
Any bickering is just nonsense. Like I said to AMD before, show me the proof the steelers did steroids, than make an argument. Any other shit talk is irrelevant, it's all just jealousy. Steelers mean A LOT to Pittsburgh, we're genuine fans through and through. Talk shit all you want, we have six rings and you don't.
The Bungles are a bad organization, thats the only thing you can really blame on. They're right up there with Detroit as far as I'm concerned. Just get over it and admit it. The Bucco's might suck but that doesn't mean I'm gonna hate on the Cardinals. We know its because of poor management/ownership, we deal with it the right way. It's not our fault we have great ownership and leadership with the Steelers. The Bungles continue to draft players with character issues, :-? why is that?
Walts, I know you were just kidding around with your post, I just wanted to get that off my chest. Steelers are easily the favorites to win the Super Bowl again, regardless of what the Cheatriots do.
QuoteI wasnt talking about the trade there in that last one, I was talking about my prospects of Berrian vs Holmes, 2 guys that were on Walts roster as of a few days ago.
Theyre 2 different things, trust me. :)
Ok, this is still killing me, because it's so fucking stupid and I could still poke plenty of holes through this argument.
If your two statements are "two different things" as you claim then you are admitting that the two statements are not related in the context we were discussing. So my reading comprehensions was actually spot-on, what was lacking was the validity of your argument.
Also, the thing those two statements had in common was Berrian and my reply was "I think we know how you feel about Berrian", not "the trade". So I just wanted to point out again that your logic is faulty and often contradictory, I'm only trying to make sense out of nonsense and trying to get you to shut the fuck up.
And yes, I realize you are likely just trying to troll me but part of me thinks you really are that dumb and could use a education from someone who grew up in a town where sports weren't the ONLY thing we cared about.
No proof?! How about admissions of guilt from those who have the most to lose from the truth coming out? There have been admissions from several players from the 70s, including Terry Bradshaw, and not one steeler has come out to say these guys are lying. So what's that? A coincidence? You all are more ignorant than I thought, and that's saying something!
http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports/columnists/hyde/blog/2009/01/steelers_and...
QuoteWebster admitted taking steroids, though he said it wasn't much. Furness's brother has gone on record saying Steve took steroids. Jim Haslett waded into a controversy a few years ago when he talked about the use. One player on the Steelers in that era told me a few year ago that needles were, "everywhere around that team."
So the fact they took steroids is certain.
http://grg51.typepad.com/steroid_nation/2008/06/so-terry-bradsh.html
QuoteIn a freewheeling radio interview with Sports Illustrated's Dan Patrick last week, Bradshaw said he used steroids for healing purposes as a member of the vaunted Steeler teams of the 1970s, and that a doctor administered the injections.
http://grg51.typepad.com/steroid_nation/2006/07/curse_of_the_st.html
Quote ...Courson wrote that 75 percent of the Steelers' offensive linemen took steroids at one time or another and would sit around as a group discussing their usage the way other men might discuss their wife or girlfriend, a night at the bar or a good hunting trip.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/8322840
QuoteNew Orleans Saints coach Jim Haslett says he used steroids when he starred as a linebacker in the early 1980s, and claims the Pittsburgh Steelers' use of the drugs during Super Bowl championship seasons in the 1970s brought steroids into vogue around the NFL.
Then there's the book written by Steve Courson (former steelers linebacker) entitled
False Glory: Steelers and Steroids. Great title!
http://www.amazon.com/False-Glory-Steelers-Steroids-Courson/dp/0681411872
And there is more proof out there if you are interested in learning more about cheaters and superbowl rings that should come with an asterisks. I guess books and "facts" aren't really as "big" as sports in steel town.
Denying steroid use, reveling in other players injuries, yeah that's something to really be proud of. You two represent your city so well (or, I suppose I should say accurately).
This is the time I wish I actually had a team to cheer for. I love the passion fellas, but it looks like I have more asterisks to put on championships. AFC North, big ups for passion!
QuoteNo proof?! How about admissions of guilt from those who have the most to lose from the truth coming out? There have been admissions from several players from the 70s, including Terry Bradshaw, and not one steeler has come out to say these guys are lying. So what's that? A coincidence? You all are more ignorant than I thought, and that's saying something!
http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports/columnists/hyde/blog/2009/01/steelers_and...
QuoteWebster admitted taking steroids, though he said it wasn't much. Furness's brother has gone on record saying Steve took steroids. Jim Haslett waded into a controversy a few years ago when he talked about the use. One player on the Steelers in that era told me a few year ago that needles were, "everywhere around that team."
So the fact they took steroids is certain.
http://grg51.typepad.com/steroid_nation/2008/06/so-terry-bradsh.html
QuoteIn a freewheeling radio interview with Sports Illustrated's Dan Patrick last week, Bradshaw said he used steroids for healing purposes as a member of the vaunted Steeler teams of the 1970s, and that a doctor administered the injections.
http://grg51.typepad.com/steroid_nation/2006/07/curse_of_the_st.html
Quote ...Courson wrote that 75 percent of the Steelers' offensive linemen took steroids at one time or another and would sit around as a group discussing their usage the way other men might discuss their wife or girlfriend, a night at the bar or a good hunting trip.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/8322840
QuoteNew Orleans Saints coach Jim Haslett says he used steroids when he starred as a linebacker in the early 1980s, and claims the Pittsburgh Steelers' use of the drugs during Super Bowl championship seasons in the 1970s brought steroids into vogue around the NFL.
Then there's the book written by Steve Courson (former steelers linebacker) entitled False Glory: Steelers and Steroids. Great title!
http://www.amazon.com/False-Glory-Steelers-Steroids-Courson/dp/0681411872
And there is more proof out there if you are interested in learning more about cheaters and superbowl rings that should come with an asterisks. I guess books and "facts" aren't really as "big" as sports in steel town.
Denying steroid use, reveling in other players injuries, yeah that's something to really be proud of. You two represent your city so well (or, I suppose I should say accurately).
You fail to include this quote from one of your articles:
Haslett said Thursday that when he played in the NFL, steroid use was rampant because the league had no policy banning such drugs. The NFL has since attacked the problem, he said. "That's because it wasn't illegal then,"
I don't see how you can call them cheaters if it wasn't even illegal back then.
Exactly, thats why I said I think they probably were using whether there was proof or not, but it doesnt really matter when everyone else was using as well. I dont blame baseball players at all for using steroids when 90% of the league was using them. I would be too if I was in that situation probably.
And of course the bungals arent going to come out and say they were taking Roids when they were going 6-10 in the 70s. People in cincy would think "well WTF did we suck so bad then?!"
I didnt know they actually were legal though, True. Thats priceless and makes it totally irrelevant ;D
You can stuff your asterisks in a sack and put em in the attic
Heady,
Want to make an avatar bet for the TN/Pitt game?
QuoteHeady,
Want to make an avatar bet for the TN/Pitt game?
I kind of want to keep the Pens one, but okay. I dont think were going to lose after the Lendale and Bullock Terrible Towel abuse.
We'll keep it short, then. If TN wins, I get to pick your avatar. If Pitt wins, you get to pick my avatar, but we can change it back on Monday after the game so the loser will only have to sport the avatar from Friday to Sunday. Bet?
If you win, ill sport your Titan-affiliated avatar, if I win you sport my Steeler-affiliated avatar.
Lets do until the monday after week 2, so 10 days or something.
So, longer than I thought then? Deal.
MAN!!!!!!!!! I don't come on the board for quite some time and shit heats up! WOW. You would think somebody said something about somebody's momma!!!! And to think the season hasn't even started.
That being said, all in good jest, aMD my team would like to extend our balls and invite you to a teabag party. ;) CHAMPIONSHIP!
Oooh, Ooooh, Ooooh! [smiley=vrolijk_26.gif] [smiley=vrolijk_26.gif] [smiley=vrolijk_26.gif] I want in on this. If the Titans win, I get to virtually poop on Headdy's avatar.
Please :'(
I need some WR help, anyone interested in a trade? Looking to let go of Marshawn Lynch, still interested AMD (not for an IDP)?
good game, Mr. Expert!
;D ;D ;D
yep, because I totally expected to go undefeated, jagoff.
whats funny is you actually think I care. im glad i made your week
Quoteyep, because I totally expected to go undefeated, jagoff.
whats funny is you actually think I care. im glad i made your week
;D ;D ;D
Oh Heady, I think it's pretty obvious that you care. I'm glad I'm doing such a good job of getting under your skin.
Oh and while I have your attention, are there any expert fantasy tips you want to share with me so I can kick your ass even harder next time, you know since you're so smart and everything?
And nice avatar!
dude, i love football and fantasy football, so I enjoy putting my opinion out there - just like everybody else in the football threads. its my fucking opinion, read it if you want, and if you dont, dont.
i never called myself an expert, never said im always right, and never even talked shit about how im going to beat your team this past week (it would make sense for you to make your smartass comment then, no?). I guess you must be an expert though if your team will always beat mine and you feel the need to give me shit for simply giving my opinion or explaining my thoughts. the only reason you troll like this is because youre just like Tracy - once you have a grudge against someone here, youre a complete douchebag to them for no reason but your preconceived notions.
so keep wasting your time "getting under my skin" and looking like an asshole, asshole.
My notions of you are not preconceived (you may want to look that word up before you try to use it again). I have plenty of reasons to be an asshole towards you.
Quoteits my fucking opinion, read it if you want, and if you dont, dont
. Good luck trying to get under my skin, you ain't got nothing on me!
Shit be tight!
Only 2 games separate 1st from 10th?! Dont know if Ive ever seen that before
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Berrian is like Lee Evans. A manager's nightmare. He'll go scoreless for 2 games than go off for 30pts. You never know what you are getting and actually, Tarvaris Jackson has the arm to throw to him on straight fly routes that Mr. Favre is not even close to being able to do. [highlight]I would bank on Sydney Rice to have a more solid season.
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Nice win for me this week!!! :)
Quotegood game, Mr. Expert!
;D ;D ;D
Sorry your team got owned in the first round of the playoffs...But hey, at least you can be happy and pat yourself on the back that you beat me when it really mattered...in week 2!
8-) ;D
QuoteQuotegood game, Mr. Expert!
;D ;D ;D
Sorry your team got owned in the first round of the playoffs...But hey, at least you can be happy and pat yourself on the back that you beat me when it really mattered...in week 2!
8-) ;D
AMD didn't say anything about his team being the best. He wrote that message, because at the time you came across as a nazi. I could bring up those preposterous comments about me being drunk to accept that trade, and guess what?...it didn't turn out to be serious at all. You even said your boy Holmes wouldn't as good. He even said he really liked your team.
Well that trade didnt turn out to be as bad as I anticipated because Berrian hasnt had all that good of a year, like I said a month ago or whatever. My whole point was IDP's arent nearly as valuable going into the season compared to a player like that. Only a couple people had ever played with IDP's before, and I was trying to explain their value. Maybe more people understand where I was coming from now? I dont even have 1 IDP that I drafted on my team anymore, because theyre much more expendable since we only start 1 per position....Good call on Sidney Rice, Ruckus...I dont know where you pulled that from, but he's probably been my biggest WW pickup in my $$ league, so Im glad its him and not Berrian having that year!
Not saying AMD said anything besides what I quoted, which I found pretty damn funny he felt like bragging about beating me the second week of the season...and its even funnier now.
QuoteWell that trade didnt turn out to be as bad as I anticipated because Berrian hasnt had all that good of a year, like I said a month ago or whatever. My whole point was IDP's arent nearly as valuable going into the season compared to a player like that. Only a couple people had ever played with IDP's before, and I was trying to explain their value. Maybe more people understand where I was coming from now? I dont even have 1 IDP that I drafted on my team anymore, because theyre much more expendable since we only start 1 per position....Good call on Sidney Rice, Ruckus...I dont know where you pulled that from, but he's probably been my biggest WW pickup in my $$ league, so Im glad its him and not Berrian having that year!
Not saying AMD said anything besides what I quoted, which I found pretty damn funny he felt like bragging about beating me the second week of the season...and its even funnier now.
Yeah, that trade was useless for both of us. As for Rice, I'd been high on him since he was drafted. I felt like he had it all but not a QB that could consistently get it to him. Of course, he is in his maturation year also so that helps. Every year ya gotta eye someone. I like James Davis on the Browns a lot next year.
I have played IDP leagues before, and I think I proved my point at draft, by not drafting any. Maybe people should take that advice. Certainly when you draft a IDP in round 11, there were better players out there. No matter where you draft them, its too early.
I shouldn't have dropped Sidney Rice, and fucked up on Ray Rice. Now that pick still upsets me. I'm pretty sure I drafted Vernon Davis, and dropped him too.
QuoteI have played IDP leagues before, and I think I proved my point at draft, by not drafting any. Maybe people should take that advice. Certainly when you draft a IDP in round 11, there were better players out there. No matter where you draft them, its too early.
I shouldn't have dropped Sidney Rice, and fucked up on Ray Rice. Now that pick still upsets me. I'm pretty sure I drafted Vernon Davis, and dropped him too.
It was my 1st IDP league and I'm not sure I prefer it. I like being able to play defensive team matchups. However, Patrick Willis was a nice pick for me as the 1st IDP off the board.
I'm running an IDP only league next year. Probably 2 CB, 2 S, 4 LB, 3 DL and a flex. I think that may be interesting. We shall see.
QuoteI have played IDP leagues before, and I think I proved my point at draft, by not drafting any. Maybe people should take that advice. Certainly when you draft a IDP in round 11, there were better players out there. No matter where you draft them, its too early.
I shouldn't have dropped Sidney Rice, and fucked up on Ray Rice. Now that pick still upsets me. I'm pretty sure I drafted Vernon Davis, and dropped him too.
Thanks for Sidney Rice, BTW. It didn't help me out that much, my team still sucked.
I lost in my two money leagues. There was one playoff spot left between me and another person and we played each other the last regular season game. We had the same record, so win and in. I lost by a score of 163 to 134. It sucks cause 134 points will normally mean a win. In the other league everyone made the playoffs with the top two teams getting bye weeks. I lost in the first round but that wasn't a surprise. My team was really hurting since Ronnie Brown went down and I had no depth at running back. My bad luck at fantasy football continues.
QuoteQuoteI have played IDP leagues before, and I think I proved my point at draft, by not drafting any. Maybe people should take that advice. Certainly when you draft a IDP in round 11, there were better players out there. No matter where you draft them, its too early.
I shouldn't have dropped Sidney Rice, and fucked up on Ray Rice. Now that pick still upsets me. I'm pretty sure I drafted Vernon Davis, and dropped him too.
Thanks for Sidney Rice, BTW. It didn't help me out that much, my team still sucked.
I lost in my two money leagues. There was one playoff spot left between me and another person and we played each other the last regular season game. We had the same record, so win and in. I lost by a score of 163 to 134. It sucks cause 134 points will normally mean a win. In the other league everyone made the playoffs with the top two teams getting bye weeks. I lost in the first round but that wasn't a surprise. My team was really hurting since Ronnie Brown went down and I had no depth at running back. My bad luck at fantasy football continues.
I had Ronnie, when he went down I grabbed Ricky Williams, he has been doing good for me. I also have Pierre Thomas, he hasn't paid off so much.
You're welcome True ;)
I love reading fantasy boners and blunders. I think it's time where everyone comes clean, and admits to everyone a boner or a blunder they've made. Doesn't have to be from this year. I already listed 3 in one league.
Anyone else watch the "gentlemen's league" videos on yahoo? I like'em
Round 2 in my money league, and I think it's already over, dude has a sick team.
Rivers
Ricky Williams
Ray Rice
Thomas Jones
Andre Johnson
Larry Fitz
Dallas Clark
K who cares
D who cares, it's probably good.
I'm kicking myself still for not taking Benson earlier. I knew he was undervalued but I don't know why I expected him to last forever in our league especially the way RBs were coming off the board. In the league I commish I blame my piss poor season on taking Jason Witten. I wanted Dallas C but my wife snagged him and I freaked out. Also, my theory of "I can snag a good QB in the late rounds or in FA" didn't work out. I bet on Ryan and Flacco to not have sophomore slumps, but that didn't work out either.
I'm not sure how I feel about IDPs either. I didn't end up with any of the IDPs I drafted and had a good roster (though I don't know how the defensive player of the year, who is a stealer didn't get drafted). Those points really felt like a crap shoot every week. And I agree with Ruckus, with team Ds you can play matchups, not so much with IDPs.
Steve Slaton (over Frank Gore) and Clinton Portis, as 2nd rounders in our league and my $$ league, were easily my biggest fuckups. Ending up trading Slaton for Greg Jennings around week 4 or so, but his 2-3 big games he's had have been on my bench while I started him every week he'd get 50 yards.
I eyed Desean Jackson in basically every league I could and thats paid huge dividends. I thought he'd put together a Top 10 WR year, but not based almost solely on big plays. I think I still have 4-5 teams alive still and he's a big reason why.
I said Sidney Rice was my WW move of the year. Scratch that, its definitely Jamaal Charles. Shot out of a freaking cannon! :o
After starting out 3-6 in my money league and almost giving up, somehow ive won 5 in a row and am in it for $250...still cant believe this shit.
...as for IDP's, you can definitely play them based on matchup but it takes awhile to get a feel for it and isnt as obvious as starting Minnesota vs Detroit or anything. Usually, you start the elite guys regardless like any position anyway. Good idea Ruckus, I think the more IDP's the more interesting as its pretty easy to field good guys every week when you only start as many as us.
BTW - did anyone watch The League on FX?! Its done now, but it was pretty good stuff
Yeah, DJax and Charles stepped up for me in my big money league. It figures that I drafted Charles in two other leagues including the MMJ league only to finally drop him just before the LJ debacle.
I'm surprised Headdy. For someone who knows his fantasy football, I'd think that Charles and Rice were players with great talent on your radar.
Good season! Now I'll try to salvage 3rd with 0 running backs. Man my team sucks.
I mean, I knew about Charles but when was the last time LJ did anything for KC and Charles wasnt even in a time share with him? Im not sure any back in the league puts up what Charles has for KC over the last month.
Rice I didnt see coming at all, I even know people who had him for 2 years in dynasty only to drop him early this season. He showed some flashes of red zone ball skills, but thats all I ever saw. Throw in him being WR2/3 behind Berrian and possibly Harvin and I didnt see this seasin coming at all.
Hey, even experts are wrong ::) ;)
Favre or Brady? Brady or Favre? Holmes or Jennings? Jennings or Holmes? Do I start Deangelo against a D that hadn't allowed a 100 rusher in almost 2 years?
Good year everyone! See you in the third place game!
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Good season!
Let's Go Jets!
Man....losing by 0.4 points in my money league championship...ugh
I have Antoine Winfield, he has Percy Harvin. $150 difference on teh line. This is why I love and hate fantasy football ;D
Not liking my chances, but 'Toine can rack up those tackles.
Might have to go to the Belgian bar dahntahn so if Harvin beats me, at least it was a good night!
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Good season!
Let's Go Jets!
Yeah, good season everyone.
Congrats Headdy!
I'm in my championship game this sunday. It's my first year doing fantasy football, so addicting. I think i'm going to start david gerrard over alex smith, I don't feel comfortable having smith and vernon davis starting- although last week it worked for me.
QuoteMan....losing by 0.4 points in my money league championship...ugh
I have Antoine Winfield, he has Percy Harvin. $150 difference on teh line. This is why I love and hate fantasy football ;D
Not liking my chances, but 'Toine can rack up those tackles.
Might have to go to the Belgian bar dahntahn so if Harvin beats me, at least it was a good night!
Won by 2.3 points....I nearly shit a brick when Harvin caught that pass in the flat and got brought down at the 1 yard line :o
I know no one like to hear my fantasy shit, but I started out 3-6, won 4 in a row to get the 6th seed, then beat the 3rd, 2nd, and 1st seeds in teh playoffs. Undoubtedly the most surprising and unbelievable team/season Ive ever had.
And this is why I love IDP's...thank you Winfield for letting Aromashodu catch that 40 yard pass so Harvin couldnt get any more touches ;D
Gracias Walts, excellent season in the MMJ league as well! :)
QuoteI'm in my championship game this sunday. It's my first year doing fantasy football, so addicting. I think i'm going to start david gerrard over alex smith, I don't feel comfortable having smith and vernon davis starting- although last week it worked for me.
I think youre in the same position as me: ripped off a bunch of wins to find yourself in the championship game. Best of luck!
Not sure if its a money league, but trust me, championship bragging rights are even better than the money 8-)
PS: Start Smith
QuoteQuoteI'm in my championship game this sunday. It's my first year doing fantasy football, so addicting. I think i'm going to start david gerrard over alex smith, I don't feel comfortable having smith and vernon davis starting- although last week it worked for me.
I think youre in the same position as me: ripped off a bunch of wins to find yourself in the championship game. Best of luck!
Not sure if its a money league, but trust me, championship bragging rights are even better than the money 8-)
PS: Start Smith
No money... I think my QB choice will be a last minute decision.
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