Anyone watching?
Im not really a fan of the NBA, but I try to tune in during the playoffs. Havent at all thus far because of the NHL playoffs, but these CF matchups are pretty good.
Cavs/Magic might not be great, but I wouldnt underestimate Orlando. Nugs/Lakers should be a dandy though. Just turned Game 1 on now, tight game halfway through the 4th with Nugs up by 5 in LA.
If its Cavs/Lakeshow in the finals, it could be Kobe v. Lebron, Round 1, of an EPIC matchup that is re-ignited for the next few years. I wont call it Ali/Frazier yet, but it could be :D
Shiiiiiit!!! Of course I'm watching. Just played 18 holes, dropped my lowest score ever, and still finished 3rd among 9 of us. Went to my buddy's, played the new Punchout (awesome), then watched my Lakers squeak by with some bullshit late calls.
Should be a great series. Still think Lakers in 5. As for the Magic/Cavs, Cavs are clearly the better team but the Magic match up well against them. I say Cavs in 6.
Thanks for the NBA thread, I thought I was the only one.
BTW, I'm a Laker lover, yet Kobe hater. Yes, they do exist.
Ive wanted to make a few posts thus far about the NBA playoffs, but there was nowhere to do it. I felt lost ;D
Im assuming there arent too many fans here, but seeing how there is a thread for every other sport, I figured why not!
Lakers in 5!!?. Dont know about that, although they did win a highscoring game tonight with Melo putting up 39 (and Kobe putting up 40). I think thatll go 6 or 7.
Why you hate Kobe?! Your girl wasnt the one he was accused of sticking it to was she?
QuoteIve wanted to make a few posts thus far about the NBA playoffs, but there was nowhere to do it. I felt lost ;D
Im assuming there arent too many fans here, but seeing how there is a thread for every other sport, I figured why not!
Lakers in 5!!?. Dont know about that, although they did win a highscoring game tonight with Melo putting up 39 (and Kobe putting up 40). I think thatll go 6 or 7.
Why you hate Kobe?! Your girl wasnt the one he was accused of sticking it to was she?
Nahh, my girl's finer. She's not blonde ;)
So whats the real reason you dont like Kobe?
Shaq fan? Magic fan?
QuoteSo whats the real reason you dont like Kobe?
Shaq fan? Magic fan?
He's a douche. I worship Magic. He was my hero growing up.
QuoteQuoteSo whats the real reason you dont like Kobe?
Shaq fan? Magic fan?
He's a douche. I worship Magic. He was my hero growing up.
He aint no Magic, but I knew it was either him or Shaq as to why you didnt like him ;D
QuoteShiiiiiit!!! Of course I'm watching. Just played 18 holes, dropped my lowest score ever, and still finished 3rd among 9 of us. Went to my buddy's, played the new Punchout (awesome), then watched my Lakers squeak by with some bullshit late calls.
Should be a great series. Still think Lakers in 5. As for the Magic/Cavs, Cavs are clearly the better team but the Magic match up well against them. I say Cavs in 6.
Thanks for the NBA thread, I thought I was the only one.
BTW, I'm a Laker lover, yet Kobe hater. Yes, they do exist.
I've always wondered...... ;)
I'm thinking Lakers in 7. Maybe 6, but I think 5 is pushing it.
Dude, fuck the Lakers (I'm a Kings fan...oh yeah, fuck the draft lottery!!!). I really hope the Lakers lose. I hate the Lakers, that's all I can really say about them. I'm hopin' Lebron and the Cavs roll through the next two rounds undefeated to a title, though the Magic could make it a tight series if they keep shooting the 3 well, but I wouldn't count on that to hold up over a best of 7 series against Cleveland.
QuoteQuoteQuoteSo whats the real reason you dont like Kobe?
Shaq fan? Magic fan?
He's a douche. I worship Magic. He was my hero growing up.
He aint no Magic, but I knew it was either him or Shaq as to why you didnt like him ;D
aren't you reading? because he IS a douche. lebron is the opposite of kobe, he's a team player, he elevates his teammates, he's fun to play with and be around...he makes everyone better, he just seems to love the game, too. Kobe belongs in LA w/all the other prima donnas.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteSo whats the real reason you dont like Kobe?
Shaq fan? Magic fan?
He's a douche. I worship Magic. He was my hero growing up.
He aint no Magic, but I knew it was either him or Shaq as to why you didnt like him ;D
aren't you reading? because he IS a douche. lebron is the opposite of kobe, he's a team player, he elevates his teammates, he's fun to play with and be around...he makes everyone better, he just seems to love the game, too. Kobe belongs in LA w/all the other prima donnas.
I realize that you're a clevland homer but come one Lebron is a "team player?" This is the same guy who calls his team "His supporting cast."
the difference is lebron would give up the glory and put the ball in someone else's hands if it meant winning--kobe's the type of player to weigh the cost/benefits of his personal achievement for a split second before he decides
Quotethe difference is lebron would give up the glory and put the ball in someone else's hands if it meant winning--kobe's the type of player to weigh the cost/benefits of his personal achievement for a split second before he decides
You say he would 'give up the glory" I would say that he is too much a coward to take the winning shot.
but I do agree about the part with Kobe.
Normally I'm all over the NBA playoffs, but with the Bruins making the playoffs and the Jays kings of the AL, baskeball has taken a back seat. I still watch the highlights though.
Yes I'm watching. Missed the game last night...I was golfing and then we had the regular Tuesday night pub quiz. I don't even know who won yet! ESPN.com is my next stop though. But yeah I'm a Bulls fan so the playoffs started off on a great note...can you say EPIC? Bulls/Celtics has to be one of the best series ever in any sport. Even though they didn't win I was proud to be a Bulls fan. Derrick Rose is going to be incredible. He's already good. And how about Rajon Rondo? He's really stepped it up this year. the guy is fearless. did you see his dunk over Dwight Howard? gotta give him credit. The CF matchups are great. It just sucks now that I have to wait between games. The first round spoils you, getting to watch 2 games almost every night.
QuoteQuotethe difference is lebron would give up the glory and put the ball in someone else's hands if it meant winning--kobe's the type of player to weigh the cost/benefits of his personal achievement for a split second before he decides
You say he would 'give up the glory" I would say that he is too much a coward to take the winning shot.
but I do agree about the part with Kobe.
Just wanted to quote this so I can use it against you later.
I was actually thinking the other night that we needed an NBA thread. I'm a pretty big NBA fan. The cavs are my team despite the fact they are from Cleveland. You've got to love Lebron. He's the next Michael and I'm a witness.
The bulls celts series was fantastic. I like the bulls team of young guns. I'd like to see Denver come out of the West.
I'm pulling for a Nuggets/Cavs series, even though eveyone wants to see Lebron v Kobe.
I love how the Nuggets play, they're very loose. I think that comes from Billups; he's like an assistant coach out there.
I've been a big Delonte West fan ever since he played with Jameer Nelson at St Joes; too bad Nelson is out. Will pull for the East in the Finals. I'm an old Sixers fan from the Dr J days so I have no Lakers love.
This game is getting a lot more interesting in the 2nd half
nice choke job Cavs ;D
Quotethe difference is lebron would give up the glory and put the ball in someone else's hands if it meant winning--kobe's the type of player to weigh the cost/benefits of his personal achievement for a split second before he decides
well, him doing that now just lost them the game pretty much. youre down one, and close to the rim. no need to pass outside for a 3 to win the game.
It seemed to be big shot after big shot down the stretch, but the 3 by Lewis was CLUTCH.
If the Magic lost this, it might have been demoralizing. Winning it though, in Cleveland, with LeBron going for FITTY, has to be a big boost for them and put a little fear into Clevelands heads
QuoteQuotethe difference is lebron would give up the glory and put the ball in someone else's hands if it meant winning--kobe's the type of player to weigh the cost/benefits of his personal achievement for a split second before he decides
well, him doing that now just lost them the game pretty much. youre down one, and close to the rim. no need to pass outside for a 3 to win the game.
It seemed to be big shot after big shot down the stretch, but the 3 by Lewis was CLUTCH.
If the Magic lost this, it might have been demoralizing. Winning it though, in Cleveland, with LeBron going for FITTY, has to be a big boost for them and put a little fear into Clevelands heads
I didn't see what happen but if what Headdy is posting is correct please refer back to my post ealier in the thread where I stated that lebron doesn't have the courage to put the game in his hands during the final seconds.
It's not about him being a "good team player," it's about getting paid to be the man, and stepping up when the time comes. So far in his career he has tended to shy away from the big shot at the end of games...
Afterall it's easier to dish the ball off and if your teammate misses, "oh well, I didn't miss the shot."
QuoteQuoteQuotethe difference is lebron would give up the glory and put the ball in someone else's hands if it meant winning--kobe's the type of player to weigh the cost/benefits of his personal achievement for a split second before he decides
You say he would 'give up the glory" I would say that he is too much a coward to take the winning shot.
but I do agree about the part with Kobe.
Just wanted to quote this so I can use it against you later.
Swing and Miss
STRIKE 1!
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well, him doing that now just lost them the game pretty much. youre down one, and close to the rim. no need to pass outside for a 3 to win the game
I'm gonna take a wild guess and say Lebron might know a little bit more about basketball than you, sitting on your couch
watching, sucking cheetos dregs off your fingers, flipping to ESPN to check baseball scores, critiquing his game. Just a hunch. I'm pretty sure without his 49 there wouldn't be any need for late game big decisions. If West hits the 3, like he did 30 seconds earlier, then Lebron is a genius; If he misses, then he is a goat. People love hating on us superstars. ;)
Quotelebron doesn't have the courage to put the game in his hands during the final seconds.
leon, you'll make a great 5th grade basketball coach one day, rallying the troops, screaming about the courage it takes to put the ball in your hands in the final seconds...
QuoteQuotelebron doesn't have the courage to put the game in his hands during the final seconds.
leon, you'll make a great 5th grade basketball coach one day, rallying the troops, screaming about the courage it takes to put the ball in your hands in the final seconds...
Right, because 5th graders and a guy making 20 mill a year are the same thing...
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QuoteQuoteQuotethe difference is lebron would give up the glory and put the ball in someone else's hands if it meant winning--kobe's the type of player to weigh the cost/benefits of his personal achievement for a split second before he decides
well, him doing that now just lost them the game pretty much. youre down one, and close to the rim. no need to pass outside for a 3 to win the game.
It seemed to be big shot after big shot down the stretch, but the 3 by Lewis was CLUTCH.
If the Magic lost this, it might have been demoralizing. Winning it though, in Cleveland, with LeBron going for FITTY, has to be a big boost for them and put a little fear into Clevelands heads
I didn't see what happen but if what Headdy is posting is correct please refer back to my post ealier in the thread where I stated that lebron doesn't have the courage to put the game in his hands during the final seconds.
It's not about him being a "good team player," it's about getting paid to be the man, and stepping up when the time comes. So far in his career he has tended to shy away from the big shot at the end of games...
Afterall it's easier to dish the ball off and if your teammate misses, "oh well, I didn't miss the shot."
are you seriously saying that passing out for the 3 was so he wouldn't have to take the last shot and be responsible for the game? there's a difference between an error in judgment and what you're saying, that play was debatable (i agree w/you, mistake) but you obviously haven't been paying attention to lebron's game in the past few years. He carries that team and the city on his back (doesn't mean he's NOT a team player).
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuotethe difference is lebron would give up the glory and put the ball in someone else's hands if it meant winning--kobe's the type of player to weigh the cost/benefits of his personal achievement for a split second before he decides
well, him doing that now just lost them the game pretty much. youre down one, and close to the rim. no need to pass outside for a 3 to win the game.
It seemed to be big shot after big shot down the stretch, but the 3 by Lewis was CLUTCH.
If the Magic lost this, it might have been demoralizing. Winning it though, in Cleveland, with LeBron going for FITTY, has to be a big boost for them and put a little fear into Clevelands heads
I didn't see what happen but if what Headdy is posting is correct please refer back to my post ealier in the thread where I stated that lebron doesn't have the courage to put the game in his hands during the final seconds.
It's not about him being a "good team player," it's about getting paid to be the man, and stepping up when the time comes. So far in his career he has tended to shy away from the big shot at the end of games...
Afterall it's easier to dish the ball off and if your teammate misses, "oh well, I didn't miss the shot."
are you seriously saying that passing out for the 3 was so he wouldn't have to take the last shot and be responsible for the game? there's a difference between an error in judgment and what you're saying, that play was debatable (i agree w/you, mistake) but you obviously haven't been paying attention to lebron's game in the past few years. He carries that team and the city on his back (doesn't mean he's NOT a team player).
I understand that what he does the rest of the game does matter. The thing with bball is the last minutes count the most as the games usually end up being close. I'mm not saying he's completely selfish either. He is a team player for the most part. I have seen many instances where he has shied from that final shot.
I really don't care what happens. But until he man's up the comparisons to Jordan are moot.
i think he needs a pippen to elevate his game
Everybody could use a Pippin
That was a great finish. Both teams made some plays down the stretch. If only James had made the other free throw late. Ya know, that last play really is a tough call to make and it's easy to play couch coach (not armchair qb). However, as Cap. said, in the one point game with you already at the rim and Howard fouled out, you have to commit to the bucket and at least draw the contact. In the case of passing out to West in the corner on the earlier possession, a three made more sense there. Here, I would think a Lebron shot contested by NOT Howard has a better chance than Delonte in the corner. But hey, the King was gassed and cramping ::), hell, he called a 20 on his own at like the 3 minute mark or a little later because he couldn't even defend or get up the court. Has that guy always had cramping problems and respiratory deficiencies.
Great frickin' Game 1. I know it's unfair to Lebron but when you see the two road teams play great in the game 1's and you see how Kobe and Lebron closed out the games, he's bound to take some heat.
[smiley=beer.gif] to 2 great games to lead off the conference championships.
Some quotes from the (humble) King:
"To all the positions, I just bring the determination to win. Me being an unselfish player, I think that can carry on to my teammates. When you have one of the best players on the court being unselfish, I think that transfers to the other players."
"I've always been a leader. I've always kind of been the tallest person on the team when I was younger but always kind of the smartest. I was ahead of my time. I wasn't always the oldest, I kind of was the youngest on the team, but, I kind of knew what to do at times."
"I'm the next O.J."
"I'm like a superhero. Call me Basketball Man."
"I love sharing the ball with my teammates. I see a lot of things before my teammates see them."
::) ::) ::)
QuoteEverybody could use a Pippin
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Some quotes from the (humble) King:
"To all the positions, I just bring the determination to win. Me being an unselfish player, I think that can carry on to my teammates. When you have one of the best players on the court being unselfish, I think that transfers to the other players."
"I've always been a leader. I've always kind of been the tallest person on the team when I was younger but always kind of the smartest. I was ahead of my time. I wasn't always the oldest, I kind of was the youngest on the team, but, I kind of knew what to do at times."
"I'm the next O.J."
"I'm like a superhero. Call me Basketball Man."
"I love sharing the ball with my teammates. I see a lot of things before my teammates see them."
::) ::) ::)
Right... 'cause I'm sure he's gonna say, "I'm a ballhog, my team is nothing without me." He's not A1 for science sake.
Well, I think I'm more confident than I was in Game 1. As many of the "experts" have already noted, the Nuggets played a hell of a game and still blew it. I know the Lakers aren't going to get to the offensive glass as well as they did in Game 1 but the shooting % discrepancy between the two teams won't be 7-8% either.
Where were you when it mattered Carmelo? Has anyone seen Lamar Odom? I haven't
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well, him doing that now just lost them the game pretty much. youre down one, and close to the rim. no need to pass outside for a 3 to win the game
I'm gonna take a wild guess and say Lebron might know a little bit more about basketball than you, sitting on your couch watching, sucking cheetos dregs off your fingers, flipping to ESPN to check baseball scores, critiquing his game. Just a hunch. I'm pretty sure without his 49 there wouldn't be any need for late game big decisions. If West hits the 3, like he did 30 seconds earlier, then Lebron is a genius; If he misses, then he is a goat. People love hating on us superstars. ;)
Im sure LeBron does know more about basketball than me. That still means he can make the wrong decision though, right?
However many points he did or didnt have in the game is a moot point and has absolutely no bearing on what to do in this final shot situation, down 1 point. You think Mike Brown actually drew up a play for LeBron to take it to the hoop and dish it to an open Delonte or Mo for a 3pointer when they were down 1? Highly unlikely. And if that was the case, the King shouldve just ignored it.
QuoteThat was a great finish. Both teams made some plays down the stretch. If only James had made the other free throw late. Ya know, that last play really is a tough call to make and it's easy to play couch coach (not armchair qb). However, as Cap. said, in the one point game with you already at the rim and Howard fouled out, you have to commit to the bucket and at least draw the contact. In the case of passing out to West in the corner on the earlier possession, a three made more sense there. Here, I would think a Lebron shot contested by NOT Howard has a better chance than Delonte in the corner. But hey, the King was gassed and cramping ::), hell, he called a 20 on his own at like the 3 minute mark or a little later because he couldn't even defend or get up the court. Has that guy always had cramping problems and respiratory deficiencies.
Great frickin' Game 1. I know it's unfair to Lebron but when you see the two road teams play great in the game 1's and you see how Kobe and Lebron closed out the games, he's bound to take some heat.
Spot on, spot on, BDR.
Of course his cramps must have been so bad though that he needed 5 minutes of being hunched over on the court instead of just hobbling off the court and taking care of that in the locker room. More like Drama King ::)
QuoteEverybody could use a Pippin
Indeed
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dude shoots 67% in a playoff game, scores 49 points, grabs 8 rebounds, dishes 6 assists, and people are crying b/c he can't "finish".
I'm a better fan of basketball than that. I appreciate the game for what it is and how these guys are doing things on the court that I can only dream of.
Here's for more great games! :)
and here's to The Doctooooor
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well, him doing that now just lost them the game pretty much. youre down one, and close to the rim. no need to pass outside for a 3 to win the game
People love hating on us superstars. ;)
Yup, it's our only way to reconcile our love more sports with our hatred for money and gree. Hate the stars[smiley=bath.gif]
Now the way the way some high school and college players are treated by the fans is where I kind of draw the line.
Quotedude shoots 67% in a playoff game, scores 49 points, grabs 8 rebounds, dishes 6 assists, and people are crying b/c he can't "finish".
I'm a better fan of basketball than that. I appreciate the game for what it is and how these guys are doing things on the court that I can only dream of.
Here's for more great games! :)
and here's to The Doctooooor
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I agree with you 100% Tracy. He is the best player in the game and I don't think it's even close. He's the best player I have ever seen PERIOD. BUT, when you call yourself the King and(as Leon mentioned earlier) refers to his teammates as his "supporting cast", there will be some negativity. All it will take is for him to win his 1st title, whenever that is, and all this will subside.
The same happened to Jordan.
I firmly believe that his last second decision only reinforced his reputation down the stretch as not wanting to take the last shot. It's one thing to trust your teammates and another to be scared. He's got to want it in the last second.
If he passes he's a coward, if he shoots he's a ball hog. I love how easy it is for some to criticize a 24 year old who scored 49 in a conference finals game. He calls himself the king because it is a nickname, I'm sure he didn't give it to myself and it's a fitting one. He calls his teammates his supporting cast, because they are, he knows it, they know it, you know it, I know it, why should he act like he's worse than he is?
QuoteIf he passes he's a coward, if he shoots he's a ball hog. I love how easy it is for some to criticize a 24 year old who scored 49 in a conference finals game. He calls himself the king because it is a nickname, I'm sure he didn't give it to myself and it's a fitting one. He calls his teammates his supporting cast, because they are, he knows it, they know it, you know it, I know it, why should he act like he's worse than he is?
It was an AWESOME performance by him and I don't think anyone would call Lebron a ballhog had he taken the shot.
All we have to analyze is the last play of the game. Two sides of the fence right? :)
I'm a Laker fan that likes Lebron as a person and player more than Kobe. It will make me as well as many other critics feel better when he displays that killer instinct once down the stretch in the playoffs and hits the clutch shot. I'm rooting for it to happen, just not against the Lakers. 8-)
QuoteIf he passes he's a coward, if he shoots he's a ball hog. I love how easy it is for some to criticize a 24 year old who scored 49 in a conference finals game. He calls himself the king because it is a nickname, I'm sure he didn't give it to myself and it's a fitting one. He calls his teammates his supporting cast, because they are, he knows it, they know it, you know it, I know it, why should he act like he's worse than he is?
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Right because I said that...
Some of you tools love putting words in other people's mouths.
Guess what? You get paid 20 mill a year and you call yourself the "king" put the game on your shoulders instead of dishing of the rock at the most important moment of the game.
Like you said he's better than the rest and he knows it, so why doesn't he act like it in crunch time? Becuase he probably doesn't want to deal with the blame if he fails.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteSo whats the real reason you dont like Kobe?
Shaq fan? Magic fan?
He's a douche. I worship Magic. He was my hero growing up.
He aint no Magic, but I knew it was either him or Shaq as to why you didnt like him ;D
aren't you reading? because he IS a douche. lebron is the opposite of kobe, he's a team player, he elevates his teammates, he's fun to play with and be around...he makes everyone better, he just seems to love the game, too. Kobe belongs in LA w/all the other prima donnas.
I realize that you're a clevland homer but come one Lebron is a "team player?" This is the same guy who calls his team "His supporting cast."
Please note your sarcasm when calling someone a tool
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Like you said he's better than the rest and he knows it, so why doesn't he act like it in crunch time? Becuase he probably doesn't want to deal with the blame if he fails.
James drove right down the baseline and scored over Howard with 25 seconds left in the game and then completed the 3 point play with a FT. 25 seconds left in the game isn't crunch time? :-/
WTF do you people want? jeeeeez
Until he scores 80 and hits a game winning 3 pointer while double teamed falling out of bounds, some of you just won't be satisfied.
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Like you said he's better than the rest and he knows it, so why doesn't he act like it in crunch time? Becuase he probably doesn't want to deal with the blame if he fails.
James drove right down the baseline and scored over Howard with less than 30 seconds left in the game and then completed the 3 point play with a FT. Less than 30 seconds in the game isn't crunch time? :-/
WTF do you people want? jeeeeez
Yeah, that was pretty sweet though I'm not sure I saw a foul there. More the reason for him to draw contact on the last play right? ;)
QuoteQuoteIf he passes he's a coward, if he shoots he's a ball hog. I love how easy it is for some to criticize a 24 year old who scored 49 in a conference finals game. He calls himself the king because it is a nickname, I'm sure he didn't give it to myself and it's a fitting one. He calls his teammates his supporting cast, because they are, he knows it, they know it, you know it, I know it, why should he act like he's worse than he is?
It was an AWESOME performance by him and I don't think anyone would call Lebron a ballhog had he taken the shot.
Agreed. It would be easier to call him a ballhog based on the rest of the game as opposed to him taking the last shot.
People arent talking about the playoff career high 49 today, theyre talking about the Cavs loss and that LeBron passed up taking a shot a few feet from the hoop. He should be criticized for that, and that possession is whats being talked about because it was the key to who won the game. Its hardly the first time he's been criticized for it either, its just this time he had a huge game to go alongside it.
It doesnt take away from the rest of the great game he had, but this is what the game will be remembered for. It's not nitpicking LBJ's game, its not trying to find the 1 negative of a great performance, its talking about it because that possession was the deciding factor on who got the W.
Unlike that game a couple years ago vs. DET in teh ECF where he had like 25 points in the 4th quarter and couldnt miss, which they won.
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Like you said he's better than the rest and he knows it, so why doesn't he act like it in crunch time? Becuase he probably doesn't want to deal with the blame if he fails.
James drove right down the baseline and scored over Howard with 25 seconds left in the game and then completed the 3 point play with a FT. 25 seconds left in the game isn't crunch time? :-/
WTF do you people want? jeeeeez
Until he scores 80 and hits a game winning 3 pointer while double teamed falling out of bounds, some of you just won't be satisfied.
I don't want anything. Frankly I don't really care what happens. I would rather see the Magic pull it out anyway.
You can score 100 points in a game, but if I comes down to the last second I know I would want my superstar (who happens to be one of the best ever) taking that shot. That is NOT the time to be selfless and a team player...
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People arent talking about the playoff career high 49 today, theyre talking about the Cavs loss and that LeBron passed up taking a shot a few feet from the hoop. He should be criticized for that, and that possession is whats being talked about because it was the key to who won the game. Its hardly the first time he's been criticized for it either, its just this time he had a huge game to go alongside it.
I've watched a lot of ESPN today and 5 "experts" on Around the Horn just got through discussig the game and the
only reference to the last 10 seconds was one of the guys saying Lebron made the right choice kicking it to West. I think only the haters are talking about the last 10 seconds being a James choke, where unbiased people like my self can see the game for what it was.
You're just flat out making stuff up (as usual).
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People arent talking about the playoff career high 49 today, theyre talking about the Cavs loss and that LeBron passed up taking a shot a few feet from the hoop. He should be criticized for that, and that possession is whats being talked about because it was the key to who won the game. Its hardly the first time he's been criticized for it either, its just this time he had a huge game to go alongside it.
I've watched a lot of ESPN today and 5 "experts" on Around the Horn just got through discussig the game and the only reference to the last 10 seconds was one of the guys saying Lebron made the right choice kicking it to West. I think only the haters are talking about the last 10 seconds being a James choke, where unbiased people like my self can see the game for what it was.
You're just flat out making stuff up (as usual).
I like LeBron, more than Kobe for that matter, so it seems youre the one making stuff up if you say Im a hater because of my opinion on one play.
And the 8-10 people who have posted in this thread today have all put in their 2 cents on that last possession and whether it was right or wrong decision. Im sure there was plenty of talk about it at people's work today as well. I call that people talking about it. Id go by that more than if ESPN is talking about it the most. After all, Vick going for an escorted drive home for a few hours has been discussed more than anything on their airwaves this week and theyve talked about James Harrison not going to the White House, for what, like 3 days?! Clearly ESPN talks about the most important things. ::)
MJ dropped close to 40 points against a Jazz team in 97(that would smoke this Magic team) and he did it all with the flu.
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Anybody see Kobe dish to Gasol with 8 seconds left in the game, 5 feet from the goal? It's b/c Kobe lacks courage, he is scared. Pretty obvious. Kobe can't close.
QuoteAnybody see Kobe dish to Gasol with 8 seconds left in the game, 5 feet from the goal? It's b/c Kobe lacks courage, he is scared. Pretty obvious. Kobe can't close.
;D
Because passing to someone a few feet from the basket who you know will either score or get fouled - while also knowing you will still get 1 more possession - and passing to someone for a 3 (when youre basically just as close to the hoop as Gasol who got this pass) for the final shot are the same thing.
You know who shouldnt have a job in the NBA right now?
Joe Dumars.
How you pass on Melo (after leading his team as a frosh to the NCAA championship to boot) for Darko freakin Milicic is beyond me. And not only did he pass on Melo, but the 2 picks after Melo were Chris Bosh and D-Wade.
Dumars should be corralling quarters on a street corner for that pick despite putting together a team that made it to something like 6 straight ECF and won 1 championship (the only starter/significant bench player he actually drafted for any of those teams was Tayshaun Prince though). Nice move by trading Big Shot Billups for Iverson too ;D
QuoteQuoteAnybody see Kobe dish to Gasol with 8 seconds left in the game, 5 feet from the goal? It's b/c Kobe lacks courage, he is scared. Pretty obvious. Kobe can't close.
;D
Because passing to someone a few feet from the basket who you know will either score or get fouled - while also knowing you will still get 1 more possession - and passing to someone for a 3 (when youre basically just as close to the hoop as Gasol who got this pass) for the final shot are the same thing.
The universe whisper in my ear that you're a dickhead for having an opinion! And you are gonna get run over by a gay female driver driving a vespa because you think something different than the NBA supafan!
Ughhh. What an ugly 4th quarter that was last night. It was so hard to watch even though it was such a close game because the sheer volume of fouls being called. Weren't both teams in the penalty with about half the 4th quarter done or less? Nonetheless, the Nuggets played well enough to beat a Laker team that just had no rhythm offensively.
Some bitching points:
1. Make Carmelo drive left, really
2. J.R. Smith in the jump circle :-X
3. NBA must revisit the charge/block rule. If their is not violent contact by either side, the play should continue. I'm sick of every move to the basket having to be called a charge or block. There is nothing wrong with a no call sometimes.
QuoteUghhh. What an ugly 4th quarter that was last night. It was so hard to watch even though it was such a close game because the sheer volume of fouls being called. Weren't both teams in the penalty with about half the 4th quarter done or less? Nonetheless, the Nuggets played well enough to beat a Laker team that just had no rhythm offensively.
Some bitching points:
1. Make Carmelo drive left, really
2. J.R. Smith in the jump circle :-X
3. NBA must revisit the charge/block rule. If their is not violent contact by either side, the play should continue. I'm sick of every move to the basket having to be called a charge or block. There is nothing wrong with a no call sometimes.
If you're gonna call it you can't pick and choose when to do it. That kind of foul is to subjective. You either enforce it all the time or get rid of it...
King James just made up for that bad decision at the end up game 1 8-)
If they blew this game too, wow. The only thing they'd be the king of is chokejobs
Now that was awesome! :D Too bad I only caught it on highlights.
The King has left the building.
They'll be showing that Lebron shot for awhile; that was his MJ over Ehlo moment, so far. I'm sure there's more to come.
QuoteI would say that he is too much a coward to take the winning shot.
QuoteQuoteI would say that he is too much a coward to take the winning shot.
;D That's funny for several reasons...because anyone would say that about Lebron, but more than that, because Tracy and Leon found something else to get in a fight over! ;D
I love this place... :D
QuoteQuoteQuoteI would say that he is too much a coward to take the winning shot.
;D That's funny for several reasons...because anyone would say that about Lebron, but more than that, because Tracy and Leon found something else to get in a fight over! ;D
I love this place... :D
not much of a fight when one person is right and the other person is wrong; in Leon's world, Lebron slips and falls on purpose so he doesn't get the inbounds pass.
In the real world, Lebron told Williams he would come back to the ball no matter what and take the shot. Typical coward. ;)
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI would say that he is too much a coward to take the winning shot.
;D That's funny for several reasons...because anyone would say that about Lebron, but more than that, because Tracy and Leon found something else to get in a fight over! ;D
I love this place... :D
not much of a fight when one person is right and the other person is wrong; in Leon's world, Lebron slips and falls on purpose so he doesn't get the inbounds pass. In the real world, Lebron told Williams he would come back to the ball no matter what and take the shot. Typical coward. ;)
I love how you know everything Tracy. You are a typical, smug, arrogant internet doush. But being your whole life is dedicated to being so right on this MB all the time, I'll let you slid. After all, it must be tough when people don't like you in real life. What happened mommy didn't breast feed you long enough? Or maybe daddy didn't hug you enough? Or maybe it's because you haven't gotten laid in 30 years...
I love how you can know everything I think, by reading a few posts. Right if Lebron falls it's because he's to scarred to make a play... You know me so well Tracy. Maybe it's because I'm so racist that I want Lebron to fail. Or maybe I secretly think he's gay and hope he gets aids and dies. You make up what you want to believe about somebody and that's it. There is no reasoning with you. Everything has to be a fight with you and you having to end up being right.
*Oh wait, did I just pull those comments out of thin air, being I don't actually know you? You talk about karma and goodwill, but you just talk the talk. When it comes down to it, you're just an over sensitive pussy, who would ONLY talk shit over a web.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI would say that he is too much a coward to take the winning shot.
;D That's funny for several reasons...because anyone would say that about Lebron, but more than that, because Tracy and Leon found something else to get in a fight over! ;D
I love this place... :D
not much of a fight when one person is right and the other person is wrong; in Leon's world, Lebron slips and falls on purpose so he doesn't get the inbounds pass. In the real world, Lebron told Williams he would come back to the ball no matter what and take the shot. Typical coward. ;)
I love how you know everything Tracy. You are a typical, smug, arrogant internet doush. But being your whole life is dedicated to being so right on this MB all the time, I'll let you slid. After all, it must be tough when people don't like you in real life. What happened mommy didn't breast feed you long enough? Or maybe daddy didn't hug you enough? Or maybe it's because you haven't gotten laid in 30 years...
I love how you can know everything I think, by reading a few posts. Right if Lebron falls it's because he's to scarred to make a play... You know me so well Tracy. Maybe it's because I'm so racist that I want Lebron to fail. Or maybe I secretly think he's gay and hope he gets aids and dies. You make up what you want to believe about somebody and that's it. There is no reasoning with you. Everything has to be a fight with you and you having to end up being right.
*Oh wait, did I just pull those comments out of thin air, being I don't actually know you? You talk about karma and goodwill, but you just talk the talk. When it comes down to it, you're just an over sensitive pussy, who would ONLY talk shit over a web.
Jeeez Leon, you said Lebron didn't have the courage to take the last shot and I disagreed and last night he proved me right. That's about it.
Plus, you have this written on the bottom of your posts:
Klink Disclaimer: My posts are not to be taken seriously. They are all in jest. Please lighten up.I suggest you follow your own advice. ;)
(BTW, you misspelled scared, douche, and slide :-* ).
Everyone should go to their local or online gambling source and take Denver because I just took Lakers (+4)
The more I think about it, if Cleveland wins game 3 I will be impressed.
After LeBron's pressure relieving shot to end game 2, I have a feeling the Cavs wont jump out to a 15-20 point lead early again. If that doesnt happen, itll be interesting to see how the 2nd half goes.
Kobe just put up 41 and a W....WWLD?!
Cavs win, Cavs win!!!
PS: Just another reason why Cleveland sucks. No Pittsburgh fan would be like that before the game is over
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They'll be showing that Lebron shot for awhile; that was his MJ over Ehlo moment, so far. I'm sure there's more to come.
You can't make up such a
thing as that. I dare you to even try.
QuoteThe more I think about it, if Cleveland wins game 3 I will be impressed.
After LeBron's pressure relieving shot to end game 2, I have a feeling the Cavs wont jump out to a 15-20 point lead early again. If that doesnt happen, itll be interesting to see how the 2nd half goes.
Shooter. 8-)
I would actually favor Orlando to win this series now. They just won with Dwight Howard playing half the game, Rashard Lewis in foul trouble, and Bron Bron dropping 40.
First off, these technical and flagrant foul calls are getting out of hand. Of course you should call them when theyre deserved, but there were at least a half dozen fouls tonight that were called one or the other and either werent flagrant or more often didnt deserve the T. I thought Jeff Van Gundy made a good point too by saying how do they just come up with 7 Technical fouls and you get suspended for a game?! kinda stupid.
Clearly, Nuggs won bc of their bench. JR Smith played about as good as possible, and Birdman seemed to be doing something positive every single possession, defensive or offensive, that he was on the court. Add in Nene and Kenyon being great both ways, and no way Lakers are winning that game.
I dont get why they havent gone to Gasol more. No one on the Nuggs can guard him, and he just seems to score at will when he gets the ball in good position or when he's open. They might as well start calling Odom "Casper" too, because he's nonexistent. He might be the most overrated player in the league. If overrated isnt the right adjective, then I dont understand why people talk about him not producing, because 90% of the time he doesnt show up
fingers crossed cleveland can find the basket tonight .... :o :o
capt--don't ever put pittsburgh fans above cleveland fans-- i grew up on the halfway in between point. even my family is split down the middle..EQUALLY BAD
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capt--don't ever put pittsburgh fans above cleveland fans-- i grew up on the halfway in between point. even my family is split down the middle..EQUALLY BAD
what do you mean equally bad?
in this instance (if you watched the clip), I was saying Pittsburgh fans would never talk about how the team just lost and the series is over BEFORE the actual game is even OVER! :D
I know I didnt think the Super Bowl was over after Fitzgerald got his long TD and Arizona took the lead with only a few minutes left 8-)
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...I laughed my ass off when some assistant coach was drawing up plays late in the game for Cleveland. Mike Brown has to be the biggest joke of a coach in any major sport. He should pay commission to LeBron. If I was the King, I wouldnt want to leave Cleveland, I would demand they get a new coach.
Thank god I dont live in Cleveland.
it's like watching a train wreck; i've had a knot in my stomach since sun night.
Quote[size=20]Hey Ma, Where's My RAFER?!?!?!![/size]
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...I laughed my ass off when some assistant coach was drawing up plays late in the game for Cleveland. Mike Brown has to be the biggest joke of a coach in any major sport. He should pay commission to LeBron. If I was the King, I wouldnt want to leave Cleveland, I would demand they get a new coach.
I couldn't agree ANY MORE with you. I could put on a suit and fill the line up card out.
QuoteQuote[size=20]Hey Ma, Where's My RAFER?!?!?!![/size]
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...I laughed my ass off when some assistant coach was drawing up plays late in the game for Cleveland. Mike Brown has to be the biggest joke of a coach in any major sport. He should pay commission to LeBron. If I was the King, I wouldnt want to leave Cleveland, I would demand they get a new coach.
I couldn't agree ANY MORE with you. I could put on a suit and fill the line up card out.
I don't know guys. I think Mike Brown is a pretty good coach. Even before the real maturation of Lebron, he made the team pretty competitive and turned them into a defensive powerhouse. Just check the numbers pre and post Brown on the defensive end.
Secondly, in the modern NBA where each team typically has at least an offensive and defensive assistant, many who have been head coaches at some point in their career, it isn't out of the ordinary for that specialist coach to draw up a play under supervision from the head coach.
Now having said that, Cleveland has to find a way to defend the pick and roll better. What seems interesting to me is that typically 3 point shooting teams get their shots off through the drive and kick game or low post doubles. However, in this series, though the aforementioned two have worked, the Magic seem to be getting an inordinate number of open 3's derived from the pick 'n roll game. Hmmm...
BUT, live by the 3, die by the 3 and I still give Cleveland a more than a very slim chance to pull it off because I can see Orlando going cold.
Mike Brown in key situations must however, pretend like he is not nervous and that he knows what he is doing.
QuoteQuoteQuote[size=20]Hey Ma, Where's My RAFER?!?!?!![/size]
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...I laughed my ass off when some assistant coach was drawing up plays late in the game for Cleveland. Mike Brown has to be the biggest joke of a coach in any major sport. He should pay commission to LeBron. If I was the King, I wouldnt want to leave Cleveland, I would demand they get a new coach.
I couldn't agree ANY MORE with you. I could put on a suit and fill the line up card out.
I don't know guys. I think Mike Brown is a pretty good coach. Even before the real maturation of Lebron, he made the team pretty competitive and turned them into a defensive powerhouse. Just check the numbers pre and post Brown on the defensive end.
Secondly, in the modern NBA where each team typically has at least an offensive and defensive assistant, many who have been head coaches at some point in their career, it isn't out of the ordinary for that specialist coach to draw up a play under supervision from the head coach.
Now having said that, Cleveland has to find a way to defend the pick and roll better. What seems interesting to me is that typically 3 point shooting teams get their shots off through the drive and kick game or low post doubles. However, in this series, though the aforementioned two have worked, the Magic seem to be getting an inordinate number of open 3's derived from the pick 'n roll game. Hmmm...
BUT, live by the 3, die by the 3 and I still give Cleveland a more than a very slim chance to pull it off because I can see Orlando going cold.
Mike Brown in key situations must however, pretend like he is not nervous and that he knows what he is doing.
i agree about living and dying by the 3, it's almost as risky as relying on LeBron making the last min shot. sometimes it pans out...othertimes you're crunked! i also agree about them not being able adjust on defense--how does that keep happening...our only hope is that DH gets his 7th technical and he's out for a game .....please, i said a prayer to the patron saint of lost sports causes--Sec Walkin. :-/
They rescinded SuperDwight's technical foul from yesterday. He still only has 5 T's.
QuoteThey rescinded SuperDwight's technical foul from yesterday. He still only has 5 T's.
it was kind of a weak call. i think that was fair.
QuoteQuoteThey rescinded SuperDwight's technical foul from yesterday. He still only has 5 T's.
it was kind of a weak call. i think that was fair.
A bunch of these calls this year seem weak to me. Im no NBA aficionado, but I think theyre calling T's and Flagrant fouls way too often. In the game tonight in the 4th, Melo fouled Kobe hard across the face, but nothing was called. If anyone else besides him or maybe Billups does that, its a flagrant on the spot. I wouldnt be surprised if they make it a flagrant in the next 24 hours actually. If the Pistons were still playing, Sheed wouldve probably missed 2 games already because of Technical foul suspensions.
Early in the game, Jeff Van Gundy probably made the best point of the night. Fouls shouldnt carry over series to series because that only penalizes the teams/players that go deep in the playoffs. The NBA should decrease their decided upon number, and count T's and Flagrants for each series. It makes a lot more sense, plus animosity and such from 1 series doesnt carry over to the next.
Van Gundy is the man. I knew the NBA would rescind it because David Stern is shitting his pants that all the stars are the ones collecting the technicals. The rule was put in as a deterrent to past clowns like Rasheed Wallace and Ron Artest. If he knew Howard and Kobe would be the ones facing suspension, this rule wouldn't be there.
I'm sure Stern has already told the refs that Kobe is not allowed to get another technical unless he dropkicks Bennett Savatore or Steve Javie in the face.
Magic are +7.5...are you kiddin' me?!?
I think Cleveland will win, but I highly doubt it will be more than 3-4.
Talk about free money! [smiley=bath.gif]
Free money for not Captain Headdy ;D
What a great performance by Lebron. As mentioned before, the Magic will live and die by the three and when it mattered in the fourth...
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Bring on game 6
Vegas has me. I took LA in game 4 because the spread was like +5.5, and they hosed me there and got beat by like 11 or something.
I would say Magic close it out at home, but you never know when the KING is on the other team.
I understand they live and die by the 3, and SuperDwight fouling out with a few minutes left makes a difference, but when youre not hitting anything, I figured they would change their gameplan. Turkoglu and Lewis are perfectly capable of driving to the hoop.
And obviously Mike Brown can coach to a degree (going back to my post about the last game), but can Booby Gibson get some PT for christ's sake?! LBJ is basically a forward anyway and they play good with 3 guards. Get Gibson on the damn court. I love Delonte, but he has had a terrible series. If he plays like he has, even more reason for Gibson to get more playin time.
And I cringed at a couple late shots by Pietrus that werent good chances, but he should be getting more than 20-25 minutes of playing time. If he's off, thats 1 thing, but before his last 2-3 shots, he looked very good.
I just LMAO at how they showed part of the "hastily made Cleveland tour" youtube video on Inside the NBA after the game.
The MMJ forum starts sensations!!! WooHOO!!!!
The Inside the NBA version with their crew was pretty good too actually. They even got the same guy to do it for them. "Kenny owes his career to Olajuwon" ;D
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Capt- Where's all the talk of Lebron being a choke artist? What-- you don't think he's letting his team down anymore? He had a ton of assists last night including a lot in the 4th quarter, what a coward!
Also wanted to point out the two "locks" you told us about haven't worked out either. You must really like the taste of feet in your mouth.
Booby Gibson is a streaky shooter and MOST of the time he's off. The player I'd liked to see more of from the Cavs myriad of mediocre bench players is Sasha Pavlovich. He's more fearless than any of the other crap players Lebron calls his supporting cast. Now that I think of it, that's not a fitting title, he should just call them those scrubs the Cavs make me play with. They can't find ONE SUPPORTING player other than Mo Williams when he is specifically asked to contribute. The Magic found Courtney Lee in the draft, the Celts found Big Baby. Anyone even know who the Cavs took with their first pick last season? JJ Hickson (Magic got Lee three picks after that (yes I had to look it up)). So, bit of a tangent there, but my point is if the Cavs lose this series you can NOT blame it on LeBron.
Game 6 is huge. If Cavs win they bring the momentum back home with them for game 7. This should be fun.
QuoteCapt- Where's all the talk of Lebron being a choke artist? What-- you don't think he's letting his team down anymore? He had a ton of assists last night including a lot in the 4th quarter, what a coward!
Also wanted to point out the two "locks" you told us about haven't worked out either. You must really like the taste of feet in your mouth.
Booby Gibson is a streaky shooter and MOST of the time he's off. The player I'd liked to see more of from the Cavs myriad of mediocre bench players is Sasha Pavlovich. He's more fearless than any of the other crap players Lebron calls his supporting cast. Now that I think of it, that's not a fitting title, he should just call them those scrubs the Cavs make me play with. They can't find ONE SUPPORTING player other than Mo Williams when he is specifically asked to contribute. The Magic found Courtney Lee in the draft, the Celts found Big Baby. Anyone even know who the Cavs took with their first pick last season? JJ Hickson (Magic got Lee three picks after that (yes I had to look it up)). So, bit of a tangent there, but my point is if the Cavs lose this series you can NOT blame it on LeBron.
Game 6 is huge. If Cavs win they bring the momentum back home with them for game 7. This should be fun.
I kind of wanna see Pavlovic too.
Oh yeah, they are no longer his supporting cast. At the post game interview and press conference, he kept referring to them as this "complimentary" guys. Do you think he just says that because he heard it on Sports Center and thinks it's a compliment to his teammates? ;D ;)
J/K AMD. They are a bunch of clowns though no matter how goofy Z looks, any 7'3" guy who can shoot is an asset.
I really want a game 7. Go Cavs!!!
yeah he switched to complementary players, but hey, it's TRUE so why not keep it real?...i agree that gibson is streaky, too. i wish they had another day to rest but they are going to struggle to keep it close tomorrow. YAY--STILL IN IT!!!
QuoteQuoteCapt- Where's all the talk of Lebron being a choke artist? What-- you don't think he's letting his team down anymore? He had a ton of assists last night including a lot in the 4th quarter, what a coward!
Also wanted to point out the two "locks" you told us about haven't worked out either. You must really like the taste of feet in your mouth.
Booby Gibson is a streaky shooter and MOST of the time he's off. The player I'd liked to see more of from the Cavs myriad of mediocre bench players is Sasha Pavlovich. He's more fearless than any of the other crap players Lebron calls his supporting cast. Now that I think of it, that's not a fitting title, he should just call them those scrubs the Cavs make me play with. They can't find ONE SUPPORTING player other than Mo Williams when he is specifically asked to contribute. The Magic found Courtney Lee in the draft, the Celts found Big Baby. Anyone even know who the Cavs took with their first pick last season? JJ Hickson (Magic got Lee three picks after that (yes I had to look it up)). So, bit of a tangent there, but my point is if the Cavs lose this series you can NOT blame it on LeBron.
Game 6 is huge. If Cavs win they bring the momentum back home with them for game 7. This should be fun.
I kind of wanna see Pavlovic too.
Oh yeah, they are no longer his supporting cast. At the post game interview and press conference, he kept referring to them as this "complimentary" guys. Do you think he just says that because he heard it on Sports Center and thinks it's a compliment to his teammates? ;D ;)
J/K AMD. They are a bunch of clowns though no matter how goofy Z looks, any 7'3" guy who can shoot is an asset.
I really want a game 7. Go Cavs!!!
I'll have to disagree with the comment about Big Z...not about him specifically, but the fact that any 7'3" guy who can shoot is an asset. I had a guy on my team at tiny Clarke College who was 7'3" and about 160 lbs. He got dunked on a few times by 6'1" guards. He got pushed out of the post all the time and really only liked to shoot 3's. He was hilarious tho...he freaked out one time after chiefing and went running naked down the street at like 2 AM...I can only imagine what those cars that saw him thought...I can't imagine seeing a 7'3" naked guy running down the street freaking out!
Anyway, I want to see either Kobe or LeBron in the Finals. I don't really care which one. Both would be preferable, but I wouldn't mind seeing LeBron/Carmelo either. The Magic just don't have a guy that I really want to watch play. Yeah, I like Dwight Howard, but I don't find him that fun to watch usually. I like the rim-shaking dunks and I respect him as a player tho. I can't wait until he develops a solid low-post game. What is Patrick Ewing teaching this guy? How long can it take to learn a line-drive hook shot?
QuoteCapt- Where's all the talk of Lebron being a choke artist? What-- you don't think he's letting his team down anymore? He had a ton of assists last night including a lot in the 4th quarter, what a coward!
Also wanted to point out the two "locks" you told us about haven't worked out either. You must really like the taste of feet in your mouth.
Hah. I would like you to find a post in this thread where I said Lebron is a choke artist, coward, or letting his team down. Please, I want to see it.
The only thing Ive knocked him for was passing that ball away in game 1 on their last possession, down 1 point, 4 feet from the hoop, no Howard in the game, to someone who wasnt even having a good game for a 3 pointer. A couple other people here agreed with me, and the handful of friends/family I talked to about it all thought the same as me as well. If anything, his play during this series vs. his teammates only proves my opinion on that play being correct. He is carrying the Cavs, so how do you pass the ball in that situation?! Despite playing very good or better in every game, that doesnt void that play. That play is possibly the difference between the Magic being up 3-2 and the Cavs being up 3-2.
Yeah, I look bad on those two locks, but Id like to meet the people who took Cleveland (-7.5 points) yesterday. There can't be many. Im over .500 on the NBA playoffs, so thats all that really matters anyway. 8-)
I took LA at +190 to win tonight. Not expecting it to happen, but those are damn good odds for a team who already won on the road this series and at their best is the better team.
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Anyway, I want to see either Kobe or LeBron in the Finals. I don't really care which one. Both would be preferable, but I wouldn't mind seeing LeBron/Carmelo either. The Magic just don't have a guy that I really want to watch play. Yeah, I like Dwight Howard, but I don't find him that fun to watch usually. I like the rim-shaking dunks and I respect him as a player tho. I can't wait until he develops a solid low-post game. What is Patrick Ewing teaching this guy? How long can it take to learn a line-drive hook shot?
I enjoy watching Howard play. He's no Kobe or Lebron obviously, but the guy is electric around the hoop and he plays great D too so that just adds to it. Im impressed with his free throw shooting too, especially in the 4th quarter.
A hook shot would be a great addition to his arsenal, but I think whats holding him back is he cant go to his right. By that, I mean when he's posted up, he always goes to his left since thats his strong move as a right hander. He would be even more tough to defend if he could not just go to his right, but develop some 5 feet and in shooting ability with his left hand.
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I took LA at +190 to win tonight. Not expecting it to happen, but those are damn good odds for a team who already won on the road this series and at their best is the better team.
How bout dem apples?! 8-)
I didnt even start watching the game until a little before 11PM (thank god for DVR), but Im glad I made that post around what mustve been the 2nd quarter when the game was tight. Not trying to gloat, but you called me out :P
I dont expect LA to play like tonight consistently in the finals, but I will say it right now, if Cleveland wins the East, they will NOT beat LA. I think the Magic have a shot because theyre a more complete team than the Cavs, and their top players outside of Howard are much more consistent scorers than anyone on the Cavs besides Lebron.
..I wouldnt be surprised if Denver was the 2nd best team left in the final 4 the way they have been playing from Melo down to Kleiza.
Not the best analogy, but LA reminds me of the Penguins right now in that they werent tested at all in the playoffs until they got to the finals last year. This year is another story, and both had to play in a game 7 before the finals. Neither had the meddle, toughness, and resiliency they needed to win last year. The comparison ends there for the most part, but I expect LA to win it all.
QuoteQuoteCapt- Where's all the talk of Lebron being a choke artist? What-- you don't think he's letting his team down anymore? He had a ton of assists last night including a lot in the 4th quarter, what a coward!
Also wanted to point out the two "locks" you told us about haven't worked out either. You must really like the taste of feet in your mouth.
Hah. I would like you to find a post in this thread where I said Lebron is a choke artist, coward, or letting his team down. Please, I want to see it.
I can't find the post but somewhere in here you said if Lebron had missed the shot at the end of Game 2 he'd be the King of All Chokejobs. I don't know if you edited it out or what. Well guess what, Capn, he didn't miss that shot. And he DID have a triple double elevating his game when the stakes were the highest they've been all season. I'm just saying, what's your view of Lebron now?
QuoteQuoteQuoteCapt- Where's all the talk of Lebron being a choke artist? What-- you don't think he's letting his team down anymore? He had a ton of assists last night including a lot in the 4th quarter, what a coward!
Also wanted to point out the two "locks" you told us about haven't worked out either. You must really like the taste of feet in your mouth.
Hah. I would like you to find a post in this thread where I said Lebron is a choke artist, coward, or letting his team down. Please, I want to see it.
I can't find the post but somewhere in here you said if Lebron had missed the shot at the end of Game 2 he'd be the King of All Chokejobs. I don't know if you edited it out or what. Well guess what, Capn, he didn't miss that shot. And he DID have a triple double elevating his game when the stakes were the highest they've been all season. I'm just saying, what's your view of Lebron now?
QuoteKing James just made up for that bad decision at the end up game 1 8-)
If they blew this game too, wow. The only thing they'd be the king of is chokejobs
Not calling Lebron a choke artist, I called the Cavs as a team choke artists. Considering they only lost 1 game at home in the regular season (excluding the last game which no starters played in), IMO going down 0-2 in the series after being up 15+ points in the 2nd half of both games, at home, is choking.
Not Lebron, the Cavs. He saved them there.
I dont understand why both you and Tracy have replied to me multiple times like I dont like Lebron and am skeptical of his talent or something, and when he succeeds, come back at me like "so is he still not the most awesome in the entire universe?!". Hes 1 of my favorite players in the league. Like I said, I only ripped on him for that decision in game 1. Im not being hard on him or judging him unfairly, Im a sports fan who judged him objectively, not subjectively, on that play. Apparently saying anything negative about people's favorite players doesnt fly around here.
Even kings make bad calls and mistakes, no?
If SuperDwight plays like he did tonight, LA will have a tough go of it. Bynum, Gasol, Odom, etc I dont think can guard him.
I still would pick Lakeshow to win, but SuperDwight staying out of foul trouble and having big games is the key to the series. Everything else in the series (Kobe lighting it up, Gasol having some 20+ games, Hedo & Lewis putting up 15+ each game) you know youre going to see most games, but Howard being effective every game is the key IMO
All this Lamar Odom's play is up and down talk because he eats a lot of candy is such a joke. Theyre really going to lean on this as to why his play his up and down?!
A doctor wrote an essay on it? Really?!
I dont know Odom's entire diet, but I have a feeling breakfast, lunch, and dinner doesnt solely consist of candy and sweets. I think this doctor is forgetting about this.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteCapt- Where's all the talk of Lebron being a choke artist? What-- you don't think he's letting his team down anymore? He had a ton of assists last night including a lot in the 4th quarter, what a coward!
Also wanted to point out the two "locks" you told us about haven't worked out either. You must really like the taste of feet in your mouth.
Hah. I would like you to find a post in this thread where I said Lebron is a choke artist, coward, or letting his team down. Please, I want to see it.
I can't find the post but somewhere in here you said if Lebron had missed the shot at the end of Game 2 he'd be the King of All Chokejobs. I don't know if you edited it out or what. Well guess what, Capn, he didn't miss that shot. And he DID have a triple double elevating his game when the stakes were the highest they've been all season. I'm just saying, what's your view of Lebron now?
QuoteKing James just made up for that bad decision at the end up game 1 8-)
If they blew this game too, wow. The only thing they'd be the king of is chokejobs
Not calling Lebron a choke artist, I called the Cavs as a team choke artists. Considering they only lost 1 game at home in the regular season (excluding the last game which no starters played in), IMO going down 0-2 in the series after being up 15+ points in the 2nd half of both games, at home, is choking.
Not Lebron, the Cavs. He saved them there.
I dont understand why both you and Tracy have replied to me multiple times like I dont like Lebron and am skeptical of his talent or something, and when he succeeds, come back at me like "so is he still not the most awesome in the entire universe?!". Hes 1 of my favorite players in the league. Like I said, I only ripped on him for that decision in game 1. Im not being hard on him or judging him unfairly, Im a sports fan who judged him objectively, not subjectively, on that play. Apparently saying anything negative about people's favorite players doesnt fly around here.
Even kings make bad calls and mistakes, no?
Didn't you know if you don't share the same opinion as the MMJ super fans you're a scumbag asshole?
Lebron had the cast of characters to get it done and they didn't. When they win it's all about Lebron, but when they lose it's the teams fault. [size=8][/size]
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteCapt- Where's all the talk of Lebron being a choke artist? What-- you don't think he's letting his team down anymore? He had a ton of assists last night including a lot in the 4th quarter, what a coward!
Also wanted to point out the two "locks" you told us about haven't worked out either. You must really like the taste of feet in your mouth.
Hah. I would like you to find a post in this thread where I said Lebron is a choke artist, coward, or letting his team down. Please, I want to see it.
I can't find the post but somewhere in here you said if Lebron had missed the shot at the end of Game 2 he'd be the King of All Chokejobs. I don't know if you edited it out or what. Well guess what, Capn, he didn't miss that shot. And he DID have a triple double elevating his game when the stakes were the highest they've been all season. I'm just saying, what's your view of Lebron now?
QuoteKing James just made up for that bad decision at the end up game 1 8-)
If they blew this game too, wow. The only thing they'd be the king of is chokejobs
Not calling Lebron a choke artist, I called the Cavs as a team choke artists. Considering they only lost 1 game at home in the regular season (excluding the last game which no starters played in), IMO going down 0-2 in the series after being up 15+ points in the 2nd half of both games, at home, is choking.
Not Lebron, the Cavs. He saved them there.
I dont understand why both you and Tracy have replied to me multiple times like I dont like Lebron and am skeptical of his talent or something, and when he succeeds, come back at me like "so is he still not the most awesome in the entire universe?!". Hes 1 of my favorite players in the league. Like I said, I only ripped on him for that decision in game 1. Im not being hard on him or judging him unfairly, Im a sports fan who judged him objectively, not subjectively, on that play. Apparently saying anything negative about people's favorite players doesnt fly around here.
Even kings make bad calls and mistakes, no?
Didn't you know if you don't share the same opinion as the MMJ super fans you're a scumbag asshole?
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Exactly. Nicely put.
Are you gonna miss him when he's playing for the Knicks? Or are you just a Lebron fan?
QuoteAre you gonna miss him when he's playing for the Knicks? Or are you just a Lebron fan?
Leon-He'll never be a Knick. I thought he might consider the Nets in that new Brooklyn arena but now...no way. The Knicks have no more of a chance of giving him a title. Besides, who wants to deal w/that evil NY media, KING JAMES SHALL CONTINUE TO REIGN IN CLEVERLAND in spite of a dissappointing season. It will only make them stronger. Mark my words 2010 will be our year.
QuoteQuoteAre you gonna miss him when he's playing for the Knicks? Or are you just a Lebron fan?
Isn't his contract over? Why would he stay in Clevland? I'm sure he's had his fill of mediocre fat girls. JK He's gonna move on to a real market when his contract is up. If I was him I would take the three year 150 million from Athens if my goal was to be a billionaire.
And the whole thing about not having a shot with the Knicks: Any team he goes to will be a contender. You add one more good player and the Knick will have as good a chance as anyone.
And I hear Spike Lee gives a mean handjob
He's staying. It's not about $.
Leon -- first off, Lebron has another year on his contract. He is from Ohio and proud to be, that's why he might stay. I can't blame him if he goes though, and yes I will be a Lebron fan no matter where he goes. Will you always nick-pick every specular performance he has no matter where he goes?
And you're right most of Cleveland's successes were due to Lebron and most of their failures were due to the people around him, I don't see what's so "wrong" about that logic. Are you saying Cleveland would be better without Lebron? You think they win because of Booby Gibson and lose because of LeBron? If not, I'm not sure what you are trying to say.
Also, I never name-called, I was just stating my opinions same as you. Just because I have a different opinion than you doesn't mean I think you're an asshole. You don't have to take everything so personal, it's really not all about you.
QuoteHe's staying. It's not about $.
I thought the same thing when Brian Dawkins left the Eagles.
DO NOT KID YOURSELF, everything is about the money.
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QuoteLeon -- first off, Lebron has another year on his contract. He is from Ohio and proud to be, that's why he might stay. I can't blame him if he goes though, and yes I will be a Lebron fan no matter where he goes. Will you always nick-pick every specular performance he has no matter where he goes?
And you're right most of Cleveland's successes were due to Lebron and most of their failures were due to the people around him, I don't see what's so "wrong" about that logic. Are you saying Cleveland would be better without Lebron? You think they win because of Booby Gibson and lose because of LeBron? If not, I'm not sure what you are trying to say.
Also, I never name-called, I was just stating my opinions same as you. Just because I have a different opinion than you doesn't mean I think you're an asshole. You don't have to take everything so personal, it's really not all about you.
I dunno mate, by how offended you all got when I said he was too much a coward to take those clutch shots it seems like I spit on somebody's mommy. I didn't know you were all so tight!
Fact is you can name every reason why you want him to stay in Cleavland, but the fact is he won't. He will go to a bigger market IMO. He's too big a star to have in a town that only cares about bball 'cause he is there.
And yes Lebron does deserve part of the blame for them losing. There you go trying to twist words again. Do you think that I think they're better without him? Of course they're not, but you can't say he is the only reason they were successful and not part of the reason they lost? I didn't watch a lot of the series, but I would say he made some mistakes that I saw, which is common in bball.
He is only a man, and he and the rest of his team choked in the playoffs. I'm kinda disappointed. I was hoping to watch Kobe take him to school.
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God rest his soul./..
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Fact is you can name every reason why you want him to stay in Cleveland, but the fact is he won't. He will go to a bigger market IMO. He's too big a star to have in a town that only cares about bball 'cause he is there.
what are you talking about? i grew up going to richfield coliseum and i remember when the then Gund Arena was built. it wasn't like if you build it and draft him from down the street, they will come. cleveland's always been a tri sport town. lebron isn't leaving, but if he does, cleveland's not going to crawl off and die; heck i remember cleveland fans flocking there to see danny ferry..if that isn't loyalty, i don't know what is.
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Orlando +6.5...mark it down.
I wouldnt be surprised if they win tonight outright actually
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Fact is you can name every reason why you want him to stay in Cleveland, but the fact is he won't. He will go to a bigger market IMO. He's too big a star to have in a town that only cares about bball 'cause he is there.
what are you talking about? i grew up going to richfield coliseum and i remember when the then Gund Arena was built. it wasn't like if you build it and draft him from down the street, they will come. cleveland's always been a tri sport town. lebron isn't leaving, but if he does, cleveland's not going to crawl off and die; heck i remember cleveland fans flocking there to see danny ferry..if that isn't loyalty, i don't know what is.
I read somewhere there a 75% increase in attendance after he came there. Maybe that was incorrect.
Tonights game was great, but Im disappointed with the outcome.
Magic owned in the first half - or maybe I should say SuperDwight owned, and I thought their ability to keep it tight thru the 4th was great considering the Lakers push. I cant believe not only did Fisher hit the shot to force it to OT, but sink the shot that basically won them the game, after he barely made a shot the whole game, CRAZY
IMO bad coaching by Magic. Youre up 3 in regulation and you let Fisher take that?! WTF?!
I really wanted this to be 2-2. Now, this isnt pretty much over, it is OVER. :-/
I love Kobe, but ironically Ive found myself cheering for the Magic.
Stan Van Gundy and his goofiness are the only reason to watch these games.
QuoteStan Van Gundy and his goofiness are the only reason to watch these games.
Stan Van Jeremy you mean... ;D
That was his second career choice. He was too scurred of the A1ds.
;D
Seems like an apt time to bump this
Just saw highlights of the Celtics game, Garnett throwing 'bows. Got 2 techs, Id be surprised if he doesnt get suspended. Surprising move by a 15 year vet
Might actually watch me some NBA tonight since the Cavs-Celtics seems to be heating up
...well, at least I'll watch it until the Blackhawks-Canucks game starts
I'm so happy that the Cavs lost. I'm hoping that LeBron never wins a championship. But he will. Nice job Cleveland, booing him (and the team) at home. Great way for him to remember you by, as he's catching the first flight outta Cleveland. My buddy from Cleveland still believes 100% that he's staying, yeah right. KG kinda threw Minnesota under the bus when asked about the Lebron situation. He said something like he would've left Minnesota earlier, because loyalty makes stupid decisions. I don't blame him for saying it.
Yeah, Ive come to not like how Lebron handles and carries himself, how he talks in interviews, etc. I still think Kobe is the best player in the NBA. Going into the playoffs I wouldve said he stays, but with this epic collapse, both by him in a few games but mostly little help from his surrounding cast, he's gone.
If he's smart, he'd go to CHI or MIA....Bulls have a ton of young talent with Rose, Noah, Deng, Gibson, Hinrich - all of whom play different positions than Lebron. Id say Heat next, mostly because of Wade, but Beasley, Jermaine O'Neal, Richardson, and Chalmers are a decent supporting cast. I dont think McGrady is anywhere near what he used to be, but I guess the Knicks have some decent players too in Lee, Harrington, Gallinari.
Im not sold on PHX having a chance vs LAL, but Wilbon thinks theyre going to win, so maybe they will. If Rondo and KG can play anything like they did vs CLE, the Celts-Magic series should be a good one
We're pumping it up in Minnesota for the lottery tonight! This is our only chance to finish first in something. Lets go, lets pump it up!
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QuoteI'm so happy that the Cavs lost. I'm hoping that LeBron never wins a championship. But he will. Nice job Cleveland, booing him (and the team) at home. Great way for him to remember you by, as he's catching the first flight outta Cleveland. My buddy from Cleveland still believes 100% that he's staying, yeah right. KG kinda threw Minnesota under the bus when asked about the Lebron situation. He said something like he would've left Minnesota earlier, because loyalty makes stupid decisions. I don't blame him for saying it.
Interesting observation for a local sports writer here in Beantown--"Here the Celtics won--everywhere else they're saying 'Lebron Lost'". Guess I shouldn't be too surprised. Boston seems to be supplanting New York as most hated sports town oh well
What a bunch of sad losers in Cleveland...Youre never gonna win!! ;D
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I love these two match ups. I wasn't surprised to see Boston take game one with Orlando a little rusty after the rest. I gotta say, Rasheed and Big Baby made Superman look like Jon Koncak or Paul Mokeski. ;D I like Orlando to get this one.
I was surprised at how handily the Lakes handled the Suns and I particularly enjoyed the overblown ESPN coverage of the injuries to Bynum and Kobe. Get over it. It's the conference finals. Get it on. Go Lakers.
Magic-Celts went kind of how I expected. I didnt think Magic would go down 15+ points again, and they didnt, but I wasnt sure if they had enough to beat Boston after seeing how Game 1 went. Made a great run early in the game to come back from a 23-12 deficit to tie it up at 25. Difference in the game though was Rashard Lewis was non-existent. I dont know how a guy that good looks like he doesnt even want the ball the entire game. Nelson didnt have a good game either. Boston just has too much firepower. Put a solid, deep, defensive bench with their Big 4, and they are going to be tough to beat, even for LA.
2 Big Things I realized last night:
1)I cant believe how good Rajon Rondo is. I thought he was average at Kentucky, maybe above average, which would mean he would be at best a career backup PG in the NBA. Somehow though, he's become possibly the best PG in the game, Id say definitely the best all-around PG. Made some sick highlight reel plays last night.
2) I cant believe JJ Redick has turned into a solid NBA bench player. I hated him at Duke, but probably morese because he was just too damn good. He's really rounded his game and Im surprised that whiteboy is a Top 8 player for a team as good as Orlando. He played with more heart than anyone else on Orlando last night
QuoteWhat a bunch of sad losers in Cleveland...Youre never gonna win!! ;D
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Awesome!
Just curious, does anyone else here read Bill Simmons, The Sports Guy? He's a HUGE NBA/Celts fan. Go to ESPN.com and look for his mug a bit underneath the main picture. He writes a few articles a week usually, and they're really, really funny if you're a sports fan. If not...well, you won't get the humor. But you probably wouldn't be going to espn.com anyway if you're not a sports fan. He used to be a writer for Jimmy Kimmel and he's friends with others like Chuck Klosterman. Lots of good stuff. Gets me through the workday. His podcasts are usually good too.
QuoteJust curious, does anyone else here read Bill Simmons, The Sports Guy? He's a HUGE NBA/Celts fan. Go to ESPN.com and look for his mug a bit underneath the main picture. He writes a few articles a week usually, and they're really, really funny if you're a sports fan. If not...well, you won't get the humor. But you probably wouldn't be going to espn.com anyway if iyou're not a sports fan. He used to be a writer for Jimmy Kimmel and he's friends with others like Chuck Klosterman. Lots of good stuff. Gets me through the workday. His podcasts are usually good too.
I used to read a lot od Simmons years back and from what I gather and random links friends still send me, he typically is on point in his witty analysis. That said, as a die hard fan of all sports, I boycott allthings ESPN except for live sports coverage and this fantastic 30/30 series nowadays.
When simmons sticks with pure game and team analysis I love him. When he starts getting all tabloidish.......
Oh yeah, it goes w/o saying......nice game scheduling David Stern. >:(
Quote That said, as a die hard fan of all sports, I boycott allthings ESPN except for live sports coverage and this fantastic 30/30 series nowadays.
Im with you on this, although I do still watch PTI and ATH, and occasionally JRIB. Sportscenter is unwatchable though. They just talk about the biggest story for half the show over and over again, and it usually doesnt have to do with an actual game. If I want my sports info, I watch NFL or NHL network.
The 30 for 30 is great, although Ive missed a bunch. The one on The U and Ricky Williams were fantastic I thought
QuoteQuoteJust curious, does anyone else here read Bill Simmons, The Sports Guy? He's a HUGE NBA/Celts fan. Go to ESPN.com and look for his mug a bit underneath the main picture. He writes a few articles a week usually, and they're really, really funny if you're a sports fan. If not...well, you won't get the humor. But you probably wouldn't be going to espn.com anyway if iyou're not a sports fan. He used to be a writer for Jimmy Kimmel and he's friends with others like Chuck Klosterman. Lots of good stuff. Gets me through the workday. His podcasts are usually good too.
I used to read a lot od Simmons years back and from what I gather and random links friends still send me, he typically is on point in his witty analysis. That said, as a die hard fan of all sports, I boycott allthings ESPN except for live sports coverage and this fantastic 30/30 series nowadays.
When simmons sticks with pure game and team analysis I love him. When he starts getting all tabloidish.......
i love both the sports guy and the sports gal...i like that he's also gotten Chuck Klosterman involved :) (well except when he said God hated Cleveland---which he does--and it was a good article---but still)
why dont the finals start until thursday? I think both series were decided by saturday. Each team gets at least 5 days off?
NBA is sofa king retarded
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Kind of a crappy 1st game. I'm a huge Lakers fan and I was very worried coming into this series about everything. I'm not sure if the Celtics just played really poorly or the Lakers played somewhat OK but the level of play seemed terrible. The referees were all over the place and very inconsistent. While I'm happy with the result, man those refs need to get their act together.
Yeah, level of play and energy seemed pretty subpar.
Game 2 isnt until Sunday?! What a joke
Anyone watching?
Lots of good games so far...Lots of intriguing series still even though they are mostly 2-0..Melo droppin 42 and 17 and the Knicks lose?!
I also gotta say, I never thought Russell Westbrook would be anywhere near as good as he is..I was surprised he was a top 10 pick, seemed like a reach or risk that high, and I pegged him for like an avg starting PG or very good 6th man. Not like I watched UCLA all that much when he was there outside of the tourney, but its not often where I see a very good player from a major conference and am surprised how their game translates or even progresses in the NBA.
'brook is legit
Man, the NBA playoffs are better than ever! How 'bout them Blazers with Roy?! I'm sure the Wizzard was going bonkers. :o That performance reminded me of Isaiah Thomas and Reggie Miller's 25+ point playoff quarters from back in the day.
I agree with you about Westbrook Headdy. I actually did watch him play a lot in college being a UCLA follower and I gotta say I'm surprised with more than anything with his jump shot. I knew he would be a great slasher and defender with this length and quickness but to become the offensive player he has become has been surprising.
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Man, the NBA playoffs are better than ever! How 'bout them Blazers with Roy?! I'm sure the Wizzard was going bonkers. :o That performance reminded me of Isaiah Thomas and Reggie Miller's 25+ point playoff quarters from back in the day.
That.was.AMAZING :D
We haven't gotten to see the Brandon Roy show all season long! It is such a thing of beauty! To say we were freaking out would be an understatement!
I think the NBA playoff system is still flawed since it is ruled by television and prime time. There's still long gaps inbetween games involving big market teams such as LA and Boston, which inevitably kills momentum and general interest/drama; networks/NBC dictate when certain games are scheduled and they generally refulse to put basketball in prime time. Thankfully, smaller market matchups are closer together and are on week nights, taking a page from the far more intense NHL playoffs (although I'm pissed that the NHL set a precident in Round 1 in the Montreal-Boston series by taking three days off after game 4). BTW, GO any team not named the Heat.
Awesome Wiz! Ahh those Mavericks now have to deal with the choke label with 3 to go. Ya gotta like where you're at!
I agree with you Jaimoe that the scheduling is preposterous and there is no flow in a series. That said, I've gotten used to it. I think baseball is much worse in the sense that their post season in NO WAY replicates the nature of the regular season. Teams with shallower rotations are rewarded with extra rest days. I find that more of an issue because though you may have to grind out 162 games with pitching depth, in the postseason, two horses and a mediocre #3 can take you far.
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Awesome Wiz! Ahh those Mavericks now have to deal with the choke label with 3 to go. Ya gotta like where you're at!
I agree with you Jaimoe that the scheduling is preposterous and there is no flow in a series. That said, I've gotten used to it. I think baseball is much worse in the sense that their post season in NO WAY replicates the nature of the regular season. Teams with shallower rotations are rewarded with extra rest days. I find that more of an issue because though you may have to grind out 162 games with pitching depth, in the postseason, two horses and a mediocre #3 can take you far.
You are correct regarding MLB and I think it can also hurt certain players that thrive on playing every or every other day (they tend to get rusty).
I never know when the hell some NBA teams are scheduled to play their next game in the playoffs. One thing that makes the NHL playoffs so great is that you can expect games in a series to be held every other day, no matter what, with a few exceptions. You can thank the power of Hockey Night in Canada for the former because Canadians expect the game on every night and a series to resume every other day. Tonight I'm hoping for a Chicago win over those fucking Vancouver Canucks. My Bruins are kicking some Habs ass right now! Philly? Too many key injuries.
I love seeing NBA upsets so there's no freaking way I want to see the Lakers, Heat or Celtics in the finals. Throw the Knicks and Magic into the mix of teams I hate too (Raptor rivals). Go Memphis!
Man the Lakers looked terrible :'(
Boston is definitely done...Lakeshow has more than 1 foot in the grave, but I like their chances of coming back much more than the Celts.
Miami is playing great right now, hard to not see them beating ATL or an injured-Rose Bulls squad. Its hard to say, but I think the overall level of play at this point has been much better in the West. Orlando was MIA, Boston's age is catching up with them before our eyes seemingly, and CHI needs Rose to singlehandedly win them games on a bum wheel and Boozer doing nothing. Even if OKC or Memphis end up in the finals, I wouldnt be all that surprised if they beat Miami because of the run/competition theyve gone thru to get there.
Cant believe Lakers got swept. I wonder if theyll keep showing those 3D-Peat commercials! ;D
West looks wide open. Cant wait for tonights BOS-MIA game, could decide the series as guaranteed MIA wins it if they win tonight, and if its 2-2 Id actually favor BOS bc I can see the Heat choking in a home game 7. Rondo was beastman coming back after that dislocated elbow the other day. Tell Richard Kimble they found the one armed man. Certainly if his left arm is that limited, I doubt he plays much, but theyre calling him a gametime decision and I cant see him not playing at least 10-15 minutes.
Hawks-Bulls series has been great. Wouldnt surprise me in the least if ATL beats them. Teague has been a great surprise for them.
I cant believe it, but Ive been much more interested in the NBA playoffs than NHL playoffs. Probably has to do with the blowout series in the East but NBA has been very good so far, and I might watch 3 games a year in the regular season and 2 are probably on Xmas
I won't even indulge the douchebags of my beloved Lakers.
Let's talk Thunder/Grizzlies! What a series!
1. I sense a rift growing between Westbrook and Durant over shots. In the end of game 3, Westbrook seemed liked he was intentionally throwing the game by going one on one on every possession in the 4th quarter and chucking up brick after brick. Then Durant whines about not getting the ball at the end of overtime off the set play. Waaah! :'(
2. Lionel Hollins brain farted big time in the heat of the moment last night and it's not the first time he hasn't had his brain firing on all cylinders in the heat of the moment.
Where are his assistants? Towards the end of the 1st OT last night, Conley chucks up a three and misses under 20 seconds and the Grizzlies down one. They also had a foul to give. Conley gives the foul immediately on the inbound and fouls himself out. Here, Hollins had to sub out Mayo, who had 5 fouls, for another player just to give the foul. The Grizzlies had another timeout so even after a missed free throw, they could get Mayo back in the game. Instead, Mayo gives the foul and fouls out. It worked out in the short term for sure because Vazquez hit the tying three but it's still bad pressure coaching.
3. The refs took 10 minutes to figure out the most obvious replay and still got it wrong as to the amount of time left on the clock. Yes, Mayo threw the ball off of Harden's head. Harden was out of bounds before he lept in the air. Therefore, when the ball hits Harden's head, the ball is immediately out of bounds and dead. They set the time for when the ball landed out of bounds. I don't get it.
4. Man I love this series. I'm really all over the Grizzlies on this one. Durant and Westbrook will have more chances but this is one hell of a story. I'll be happy so long as the winner of the title comes out of the west.
I havent seen as much of the OKC-MEM series as I would like. I have seen all the CHI-ATL and feel like thats been a real good series as well.
Im rooting for Memphis, but Im not so sure I agree with you about Durant & Westbrook having a lot of shots at titles together. Now I do think OKC will, but I think this playoffs has proven Westbrook & Durant wont be able to coexist on the same team for the long term. It would appear Westbrook has too big of an ego for that, and I dont think he likes playing second fiddle to Durant. Now maybe he changes and learns the offense needs to run thru Durant more often and that especially every game he needs his touches, but as it is I dont see Westbrook there for more than 2-3 years.
Quote from: capt. scotty on May 10, 2011, 11:00 AM
I havent seen as much of the OKC-MEM series as I would like. I have seen all the CHI-ATL and feel like thats been a real good series as well.
Im rooting for Memphis, but Im not so sure I agree with you about Durant & Westbrook having a lot of shots at titles together. Now I do think OKC will, but I think this playoffs has proven Westbrook & Durant wont be able to coexist on the same team for the long term. It would appear Westbrook has too big of an ego for that, and I dont think he likes playing second fiddle to Durant. Now maybe he changes and learns the offense needs to run thru Durant more often and that especially every game he needs his touches, but as it is I dont see Westbrook there for more than 2-3 years.
I agree with Westbrook having too large an ego for this team. I've watched the majority of OKC's playoffs, and it seems Westbrook thinks he is the man. He has had at least 2 games of taking more than 30 shots including 33 last night. Durant needs to step up instead of deferring to him. I think this team has enough talent to win, but the unity has looked terrible at points during the playoffs.
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Quote from: capt. scotty on May 10, 2011, 11:00 AM
I havent seen as much of the OKC-MEM series as I would like. I have seen all the CHI-ATL and feel like thats been a real good series as well.
Im rooting for Memphis, but Im not so sure I agree with you about Durant & Westbrook having a lot of shots at titles together. Now I do think OKC will, but I think this playoffs has proven Westbrook & Durant wont be able to coexist on the same team for the long term. It would appear Westbrook has too big of an ego for that, and I dont think he likes playing second fiddle to Durant. Now maybe he changes and learns the offense needs to run thru Durant more often and that especially every game he needs his touches, but as it is I dont see Westbrook there for more than 2-3 years.
I agree with Westbrook having too large an ego for this team. I've watched the majority of OKC's playoffs, and it seems Westbrook thinks he is the man. He has had at least 2 games of taking more than 30 shots including 33 last night. Durant needs to step up instead of deferring to him. I think this team has enough talent to win, but the unity has looked terrible at points during the playoffs.
Well, Westbrook is their PG so he's naturally going to have the ball more than Durant. I dont think Durant is deferring to him much if at all, Westbrook just isnt getting him the ball enough, for even stretches at a time which just should never happen. Not to mention Westbrook's ballhoggin of late has limited Harden's touches as well.
They might survive this series, but yeah, this shooting contest between Westbrook and Durant is going to shoot them in the foot because no way they beat Dallas when Westbrook is shooting 30 shots a game with Dallas playing this good. Plus OKC has no one remotely close to being able to cover Dirk.
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Quote from: ophidiophobia on May 10, 2011, 11:26 AM
Quote from: capt. scotty on May 10, 2011, 11:00 AM
I havent seen as much of the OKC-MEM series as I would like. I have seen all the CHI-ATL and feel like thats been a real good series as well.
Im rooting for Memphis, but Im not so sure I agree with you about Durant & Westbrook having a lot of shots at titles together. Now I do think OKC will, but I think this playoffs has proven Westbrook & Durant wont be able to coexist on the same team for the long term. It would appear Westbrook has too big of an ego for that, and I dont think he likes playing second fiddle to Durant. Now maybe he changes and learns the offense needs to run thru Durant more often and that especially every game he needs his touches, but as it is I dont see Westbrook there for more than 2-3 years.
I agree with Westbrook having too large an ego for this team. I've watched the majority of OKC's playoffs, and it seems Westbrook thinks he is the man. He has had at least 2 games of taking more than 30 shots including 33 last night. Durant needs to step up instead of deferring to him. I think this team has enough talent to win, but the unity has looked terrible at points during the playoffs.
Well, Westbrook is their PG so he's naturally going to have the ball more than Durant. I dont think Durant is deferring to him much if at all, Westbrook just isnt getting him the ball enough, for even stretches at a time which just should never happen. Not to mention Westbrook's ballhoggin of late has limited Harden's touches as well.
They might survive this series, but yeah, this shooting contest between Westbrook and Durant is going to shoot them in the foot because no way they beat Dallas when Westbrook is shooting 30 shots a game with Dallas playing this good. Plus OKC has no one remotely close to being able to cover Dirk.
You sure know a lot for someone who hasn't been watching the series as much as he'd like to. ;D
I'm not sure what the local press is saying but Durant's frustration was apparent and it seems like Brooks has no control over Westbrook. But they could run some more plays for Durant because he has been struggling to get off quality shots with Allen guarding him. Waaaah :'(
Congratulations to the Heat as the beat the #3 seed Celtics who played with a one armed point guard.
I swear, the older I get, the less I understand these millionaire athletes and their over the top reactions to beating teams they are favored to beat, in the 2nd round :-\
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on May 12, 2011, 01:21 PM
Congratulations to the Heat as the beat the #3 seed Celtics who played with a one armed point guard.
I swear, the older I get, the less I understand these millionaire athletes and their over the top reactions to beating teams they are favored to beat, in the 2nd round :-\
Does it really happen that often?! I agree about last night, and Lebron's "apology" is a friggin joke, but cant really think of many teams celebrating earlier than going to the finals/WS/super bowl/etc. Yeah, Bart Scott and the Jets celebrated a lot after beating the Patsies, but no one gave them a chance to win that one either.
Since the Heat cant play LA, I hope D-Rose slays them and makes Lebron wish he went to Chicago instead of Miami, which even if Miami does win it all this year, I think it wouldve been much smarter for his longterm career and ability to win 3+ championships to go and play with a 22yr old Rose than a 29yr old Wade.
Westbrook has the first Game 7 Triple Double since Pippen in '92 and joins Scottie, Bird, Worthy, and West as the only player with a TripDoub in Game 7...Amazing how good OKC can be when 'brook only socres 13pts ;)
I felt like LeBron was very foolish in his actions after the Heat knocked off his arch nemesis in the Celts. Maybe if that series win would have put the Heat in the actual NBA finals I could understand that sort of celebration. But, the Heat still have to get by the Bulls in the Eastern Conference Finals and if they manage that, then they still have to get past the winner of OKC/Dallas in the NBA Finals.
BTW, it looks as if the Heat forgot to show up yesterday as Chicago took the Heat to the woodshed in a royal ass kicking in Game 1 which was thoroughly enjoyable to watch! ;D I had felt that the Bulls had the pieces in place to at least slow down the Heat's big 3 and I felt the wildcard in this series would be Derrick Rose as I don't think Miami has anyone capable of contatining Rose.
And Rose came through for me last night with 28 points. And while I was surprised to see Bosch have the game he did, the two biggest pieces of the big 3 struggled.
I'm hoping for a 4 game sweep in this one! LeBron can take his apology and go to hell for all I care
Quote from: iLikeBeer on May 16, 2011, 10:37 AM
I felt like LeBron was very foolish in his actions after the Heat knocked off his arch nemesis in the Celts. Maybe if that series win would have put the Heat in the actual NBA finals I could understand that sort of celebration. But, the Heat still have to get by the Bulls in the Eastern Conference Finals and if they manage that, then they still have to get past the winner of OKC/Dallas in the NBA Finals.
BTW, it looks as if the Heat forgot to show up yesterday as Chicago took the Heat to the woodshed in a royal ass kicking in Game 1 which was thoroughly enjoyable to watch! ;D I had felt that the Bulls had the pieces in place to at least slow down the Heat's big 3 and I felt the wildcard in this series would be Derrick Rose as I don't think Miami has anyone capable of contatining Rose.
And Rose came through for me last night with 28 points. And while I was surprised to see Bosch have the game he did, the two biggest pieces of the big 3 struggled.
I'm hoping for a 4 game sweep in this one! LeBron can take his apology and go to hell for all I care
What a fantastic performance by the Bulls, a true team! I completely agree with you about the matchups but then again, who can ever contain Rose who is the most explosive player I have EVER seen. Whereas the Bulls have Deng with length to bother James and Rose or Bogans on Wade, no one will prevent penetration by Rose. That said, however obvious it may sound, game 2 looms huge. You don't want Miami going back home with confidence. Continue to let their self doubt in the clutch fester within.
Taj Gibson anyone? :o :o
Quote from: Ruckus on May 16, 2011, 10:45 AM
Taj Gibson anyone? :o :o
yeah, that late game dunk was just spectacular. A little more spectacular than the dunk over Wade. The Bulls are a fun team to watch and the Heat are fun to root against.
I would enjoy the Heat losing to the Bulls just a little more than I enjoyed the Lakers getting trounced by the Pistons in 04.
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on May 16, 2011, 12:48 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on May 16, 2011, 10:45 AM
Taj Gibson anyone? :o :o
yeah, that late game dunk was just spectacular. A little more spectacular than the dunk over Wade. The Bulls are a fun team to watch and the Heat are fun to root against.
I would enjoy the Heat losing to the Bulls just a little more than I enjoyed the Lakers getting trounced by the Pistons in 04.
Man why you gotta go and bring up old Laker shit? :embarassed:
After the first Taj dunk over Wade, I turned to my girlfriend and a friend that if the Bulls win the series, that might end up being the signature play. Then the second dunk happened, at which point I lept out of my seat and ran back and forth through my kitchen and living room completely losing my shit. No replay does that dunk justice but in real time, the power and emphasis with which he threw it down! :o
I take great pleasure in watching Lebron James fail.
Quote from: Ruckus on May 16, 2011, 12:59 PM
Then the second dunk happened, at which point I lept out of my seat and ran back and forth through my kitchen and living room completely losing my shit. No replay does that dunk justice but in real time, the power and emphasis with which he threw it down! :o
Let me make myself clear: I totally did not see that dunk coming and I let out a spontaneous yell that woke up my dogs and made my wife enter the man cave to see if I was OK. I made her stay up to see the highlight.
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on May 16, 2011, 01:03 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on May 16, 2011, 12:59 PM
Then the second dunk happened, at which point I lept out of my seat and ran back and forth through my kitchen and living room completely losing my shit. No replay does that dunk justice but in real time, the power and emphasis with which he threw it down! :o
Let me make myself clear: I totally did not see that dunk coming and I let out a spontaneous yell that woke up my dogs and made my wife enter the man cave to see if I was OK. I made her stay up to see the highlight.
Yep, so right. That dunk came out of NOWHERE!
Mmmmm....Tracy's man cave ;D
Bulls are definitely gonna be a tough out..Game 2 is def huge, but even if Miami goes down 0-2 I wouldnt count them out. Only 11pts between Leebron and Wade probably isnt going to happen again, but maybe the Bulls D will hold up the entire series. That dunk was def gnarly.
Id really like to see Dirk get a championship, but OKC would be so much more fun to see in the finals vs either of the east teams. Id rather see Miami get to the finals and then lose, just more difficult to stomach the loss with how close they got.
It is amazing how little attention Bosh gets. I have watched a ton of ESPN coverage from last night and barely a whisper about Bosh's great game:
12/18 from the field (67%)
6/6 from FT line
30 points
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on May 16, 2011, 01:50 PM
It is amazing how little attention Bosh gets. I have watched a ton of ESPN coverage from last night and barely a whisper about Bosh's great game:
12/18 from the field (67%)
6/6 from FT line
30 points
Thats because when you get beat by 21pts in Game 1 in a series most are predicting you to win, its a bigger story. Even James and Wade only getting 11pts combined in 2nd half is a bigger story. Bosh got 30 because they were focused on stopping the Big 2. Theyll let Bosh avg 30 all series if the games end up panning out anything like this.
Quote from: capt. scotty on May 16, 2011, 01:54 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on May 16, 2011, 01:50 PM
It is amazing how little attention Bosh gets. I have watched a ton of ESPN coverage from last night and barely a whisper about Bosh's great game:
12/18 from the field (67%)
6/6 from FT line
30 points
Thats because when you get beat by 21pts in Game 1 in a series most are predicting you to win, its a bigger story. Even James and Wade only getting 11pts combined in 2nd half is a bigger story. Bosh got 30 because they were focused on stopping the Big 2. Theyll let Bosh avg 30 all series if the games end up panning out anything like this.
I understand the relevance of the Bulls win and their goals about stopping James and Wade, but hardly even a mention sort of upholds the idea that there really isn't the Big 3, just the Big 2.
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on May 16, 2011, 02:06 PM
Quote from: capt. scotty on May 16, 2011, 01:54 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on May 16, 2011, 01:50 PM
It is amazing how little attention Bosh gets. I have watched a ton of ESPN coverage from last night and barely a whisper about Bosh's great game:
12/18 from the field (67%)
6/6 from FT line
30 points
Thats because when you get beat by 21pts in Game 1 in a series most are predicting you to win, its a bigger story. Even James and Wade only getting 11pts combined in 2nd half is a bigger story. Bosh got 30 because they were focused on stopping the Big 2. Theyll let Bosh avg 30 all series if the games end up panning out anything like this.
I understand the relevance of the Bulls win and their goals about stopping James and Wade, but hardly even a mention sort of upholds the idea that there really isn't the Big 3, just the Big 2.
Bosh can hurt you when he's on. He can pour in 30-40 on a great night, so I wouldn't leave him open. That being said, I only hope the worst for him and the Heat.
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on May 16, 2011, 02:06 PM
Quote from: capt. scotty on May 16, 2011, 01:54 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on May 16, 2011, 01:50 PM
It is amazing how little attention Bosh gets. I have watched a ton of ESPN coverage from last night and barely a whisper about Bosh's great game:
12/18 from the field (67%)
6/6 from FT line
30 points
Thats because when you get beat by 21pts in Game 1 in a series most are predicting you to win, its a bigger story. Even James and Wade only getting 11pts combined in 2nd half is a bigger story. Bosh got 30 because they were focused on stopping the Big 2. Theyll let Bosh avg 30 all series if the games end up panning out anything like this.
I understand the relevance of the Bulls win and their goals about stopping James and Wade, but hardly even a mention sort of upholds the idea that there really isn't the Big 3, just the Big 2.
In the Celtics series, Bosh avg 12.8 points...Id say it is more of a Big 2 than a Big 3. Bosh admitting he was nervous and didnt want the ball in the Celtics series probably didnt help either. Certainly Bosh is their 3rd best player, but he's not even a Top 5 PF whereas the other 2 are Top 5 in the league (arguably).
Quote from: capt. scotty on May 16, 2011, 02:46 PM
In the Celtics series, Bosh avg 12.8 points...Id say it is more of a Big 2 than a Big 3. Bosh admitting he was nervous and didnt want the ball in the Celtics series probably didnt help either. Certainly Bosh is their 3rd best player, but he's not even a Top 5 PF whereas the other 2 are Top 5 in the league (arguably).
yeah, I don't know
where I got the crazy idea there was a Big 3 in Miami
The Miami Heat's Celebration for Big Three LeBron, Wade, Bosh [HD] Part 1/3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmwJipHdqpA#)
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on May 16, 2011, 03:54 PM
Quote from: capt. scotty on May 16, 2011, 02:46 PM
In the Celtics series, Bosh avg 12.8 points...Id say it is more of a Big 2 than a Big 3. Bosh admitting he was nervous and didnt want the ball in the Celtics series probably didnt help either. Certainly Bosh is their 3rd best player, but he's not even a Top 5 PF whereas the other 2 are Top 5 in the league (arguably).
yeah, I don't know where I got the crazy idea there was a Big 3 in Miami
Of course theyre still called the Big 3 and have been marketed as such since The Decision, but last night was the first night Bosh looked more impressive than Wade or James. Unless they get CP3, Im sure theyll continue the Big 3 for a long time, it is what it is. I get that theyre gonna be called the Big 3, but is Bosh really as consistent and game saving as the other 2?
Quote from: capt. scotty on May 16, 2011, 04:10 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on May 16, 2011, 03:54 PM
Quote from: capt. scotty on May 16, 2011, 02:46 PM
In the Celtics series, Bosh avg 12.8 points...Id say it is more of a Big 2 than a Big 3. Bosh admitting he was nervous and didnt want the ball in the Celtics series probably didnt help either. Certainly Bosh is their 3rd best player, but he's not even a Top 5 PF whereas the other 2 are Top 5 in the league (arguably).
yeah, I don't know where I got the crazy idea there was a Big 3 in Miami
Of course theyre still called the Big 3 and have been marketed as such since The Decision, but last night was the first night Bosh looked more impressive than Wade or James. Unless they get CP3, Im sure theyll continue the Big 3 for a long time, it is what it is. I get that theyre gonna be called the Big 3, but is Bosh really as consistent and game saving as the other 2?
I'm hoping to start a new nickname for the 3 douchebags in Miami if they lose to the Bulls. They should start to be affectionatley know as the Biggest Losers! Although, NBC might have some copywright infringment going on... :P
or the 3 amigos..Im pretty sure none of them have ever won a championship
(http://images.wikia.com/reddeadredemption/images/a/a9/3amigos2.jpeg)
Quote from: capt. scotty on May 16, 2011, 07:46 PM
or the 3 amigos..Im pretty sure none of them have ever won a championship
(http://images.wikia.com/reddeadredemption/images/a/a9/3amigos2.jpeg)
D-Wade won a championship in 2006
Quote from: capt. scotty on May 16, 2011, 07:46 PM
or the 3 amigos..Im pretty sure none of them have ever won a championship
(http://images.wikia.com/reddeadredemption/images/a/a9/3amigos2.jpeg)
Martin has won a few awards though: Emmy, Tony and the Order of Canada. But the unfunny Three Amigos film was far less torturous to endure than LeBron's Heat selection "TV press conference ego-stroking special" at the start of the season.
I heart Nowitzki
Since when was Udonis Haslem supposed to be back for the playoffs?!
Also, Lebron finally closed out about as close to a must win game, probably biggest must win of his career
Dirk's performance was truly the most efficient offensive performance I think I've ever witnessed and they needed every bit of it to counter Durant. Seriously...48 points on only 15 shots!!!! :o
I hate to give it up but Lebron made the plays when no one else on either team were. This is getting tough and the Bulls are gonna have to make some offensive adjustments big time moving forward and I'm sure Thibodeau will do just that.
Ugh?! My euphoria over the Cavs good fortune in the NBA Draft Lottery hadn't even worn off before having to watch Quitness and company even up that series and take home court away from Chicago?! ::)
Reason #8 why I sort of pay attention to the NBA playoffs>
GAME 2 Heat vs. Bulls Wednesday
GAME 3 Heat vs. Bulls Sunday
GAME 2 Thunder vs. Mavs Thursday
GAME 3 Thunder vs. Mavs Saturday
Wednesday > Sunday vs. Thursday > Saturday
whatever
Clearly the NBA thinks weekend games get better ratings, I guess thats the case but why not have Game 3 friday and Game 4 sunday?! NBA scheduling is fuct. If this series goes 7 games, itll span 3 weekends. Good news is, from here on out there isnt more than 1 day between games
Wow! 3 dunks from Rose last night. The 2nd shows how freaking fast he is and the 3rd is my favorite dunk of anyones in the series so far.
Derrick Rose's Three Monster Dunks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLGuFi0Qiwg#ws)
Mike Brown?! Really LA??? That noise you just heard is the door to Kobe's chances of winning another title slamming shut ;D
Ive never seen Lebron be so consistently clutch late in games in the playoffs. Its lookin like either he'll choke in the finals and not close out because he realizes he's finally at the point where he expected to be, or he's gonna lead Miami to a gold thingy
Quote from: capt. scotty on May 26, 2011, 11:17 PM
Ive never seen Lebron be so consistently clutch late in games in the playoffs. Its lookin like either he'll choke in the finals and not close out because he realizes he's finally at the point where he expected to be, or he's gonna lead Miami to a gold thingy
regardless, he'll always have an asterisk as a player who had to go somewhere else to get it done (if he gets it done). MJ stayed with the Bulls (Washington comeback doesn't count); Kobe stayed with the Lakers; Magic stayed with the Lakers; Larry Legend stayed with the Celtics; Timmy stayed with the Spurs.
I think the big advantage the Mavs will have is experience. Both teams have 12-3 playoff records coming in. When's the first game, in 3 weeks?
did anyone actually watch Game 1 last night instead of Unstaged? Or I guess DVR it? Im surprised to hear how many people are considering the series over when Dirk had a bad game (yeah, I know about the non-shooting hand tendon) and it was tied with like halfway thru the 4th
Choke city; I love it.
I'm not an X's and O's guy. Watch D Wade (who I liked pre-Lebron) after he hits that 3 pointer to put them up by 15 with 6 minutes left and he poses in front of (practically in) the Mavs bench. You don't do that with 6 minutes left in fucking Game 2 of the Finals. After that, it was on and it was over. The Heat quit playing offense and the Mavs kept playing.
Karma.
Dirk had a bad game - but here's to my hope that he makes lebron his dirty little bitch. :beer:
Quote from: lucylew on Jun 03, 2011, 12:16 AM
Dirk had a bad game - but here's to my hope that he makes lebron his dirty little bitch. :beer:
???????
He had a better game in the last three minutes though!
Seriously, I can write about what I just saw for hours! Let's go Mavs!
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jun 03, 2011, 12:00 AM
Choke city; I love it.
I'm not an X's and O's guy. Watch D Wade (who I liked pre-Lebron) after he hits that 3 pointer to put them up by 15 with 6 minutes left and he poses in front of (practically in) the Mavs bench. You don't do that with 6 minutes left in fucking Game 2 of the Finals. After that, it was on and it was over. The Heat quit playing offense and the Mavs kept playing.
Karma.
So right! I am an X and O guy. The heat defended the high pick n' roll so well all night and the amount of Mavs' TO's was incomprehensible. With Terry and Nowitzki taking the night off, Chandler kept them in the game all night with his hustle and dirty work. I'm still trying to piece together how both Miami's O shut down and Dallas' O stepped up in a magical 6 minutes. Last 9 points go to the German team!
Seriously, Dallas played terribly again and they pulled it out. I thought they'd go back to more zone but they didn't. Lebron again, while making some of the most amazing highlight plays you'll ever see, was rather passive.
We got a series! :D
Son of a bitch. I turned the damn game off with the Heat up 11 and around 8 to go.
That would have been fun to watch the Heat implode! ;D
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jun 03, 2011, 12:00 AM
Choke city; I love it.
I'm not an X's and O's guy. Watch D Wade (who I liked pre-Lebron) after he hits that 3 pointer to put them up by 15 with 6 minutes left and he poses in front of (practically in) the Mavs bench. You don't do that with 6 minutes left in fucking Game 2 of the Finals. After that, it was on and it was over. The Heat quit playing offense and the Mavs kept playing.
Karma.
Exactly! I'm not gonna lie, I thought it was over myself. That was pretty incredible. I was thinking about that this morning, one minute Wade drills a three and holds his pose, bronbron's pounding on Wade's chest and South Beach starts planning their celebration parade. Next thing you know Wade's laying on the ground wondering WTF just happened. That 6 minutes may have (hopefully) changed the whole dynamic of the playoffs. I have lost a lot of interest in the NBA over the years but I won't miss another second of the playoffs.
I LOVE that the Heat lost but the whole thing is pretty U-N-W-A-T-C-H-A-B-L-E :-X
If Shaq's PR people are on top of things, he should totally spoof Lebron on retiring, saying something like, "I'm taking my talents to the golf course" or the couch!
Still glowing. Ich liebe Dirk :-*
Hey at least Lebron hasn't referred to his Heat teammates as "my supporting cast" this year ::)
OK, obviously Dan Wetzel is on our forum. He even "borrowed" my planning the parade line...
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=dw-wetzel_heat_mavericks_collapse_celebration_game2_finals060311 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=dw-wetzel_heat_mavericks_collapse_celebration_game2_finals060311)
So... Dan, what say you? ;D
Not gonna lie, I started watching Real Housewives of NY because I was so frustrated about this game. Even though the Mavs' rebounding was much better in game 2, I think they're playing at 75% capacity. Jet is so streaky... I couldn't believe what I was seeing when I turned the game back on and was like WAHHHHHHHH. It took me about an hour to calm down.
Quote from: iLikeBeer on Jun 03, 2011, 07:38 AM
Son of a bitch. I turned the damn game off with the Heat up 11 and around 8 to go.
That would have been fun to watch the Heat implode! ;D
Put it on mute so I could continue studying, but realistically thought it was over...Saw Dirk get fouled, Lebron started to whine, and I had to turn it back on. Unreal they were able to do that. Im not even sure how the Mavs got up 11 in the 2nd quarter, they werent playing all that good, so to see them comeback from 15 down, when no one was having a good game besides Marion was unbelievable.
Game 3 is going to be great TV and hopefully basketball as well.
Quote from: capt. scotty on Jun 03, 2011, 05:00 PM
Game 3 is going to be great TV and hopefully basketball as well.
Who cares about the game? I just hope a bunch of over paid giants make plays they're supposed to make and then sit there and yell as loud as they can in a mocked, frenzied state; that's what I am hoping for.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_5_d7J4VrRXA/SskrrqoigDI/AAAAAAAAAdA/neF10yhT_yE/s400/LebronYelling.jpg)
(http://media.commercialappeal.com/media/img/photos/2010/11/09/APTOPIX_Nets_Heat_Basketbal_t300.JPG)
...that, and then lose...again
Quote from: capt. scotty on Jun 03, 2011, 07:07 PM
...that, and then lose...again
:thumbsup:
damn scotty, I am beginning to like you; wtf?
i must be getting wiser with age
If this series keeps going this way, Lebron should buy Wade a car or something because he's the reason theyre up 2-1 (if not 3-0)...Ironic that Bosh hits the game winner with how bad he's been shooting until that point this series.
Im also wondering why Barea doesnt get more PT with Kidd. Seems like anytime he's in the game, he's with Terry. Marion has been too good to keep him on the bench long, but Id love to see some more sets of Barea-Kidd-Terry-Dirk-Chandler.
Dwade is headed for series MVP. I'm OK with that.
Mavs missed a lot of easy shots last night. It was pretty cool watching Nowitski a Dwade go mano y mano down the stretch. And, for the Heat, no over the top celebrations for things they get paid to do. Perhaps they grew up a little bit in Game 2?
Mavs coming back bigtime...considering Dirk is under the weather, I really hope they pull this one out.
Also, the 2-3-2 home swings are a joke. Regardless of what happens tonight, if Miami goes home up 3-2 - its over...if Dallas goes back up 3-2 theyre at a disadvantage because they pretty much have to win game 6 because winning game 7 at Miami would take a miracle (no stats on hand, Im pretty sure the stats heavily weigh home teams in game 7, moreso than baseball and hockey)
Looking like Lebron got a trade to Miami so he'd have a good seat to see DWade try to win his 2nd title.
I completely agree about the format Headdy. Not necessarily because of the difficulty of winning game 7 on the road but more the flow of it. Why play one way for the first three rounds then completely change it up. I never understood it and the argument of cost and difficulty of travel is ridiculous.
This series has been remarkable and a great matchup. Every game could have gone either way for the most part. I'm glad Dallas went back to the zone tonight and obviously it paid off. They dabbled with it in game one, which I thought was great idea, but they gave up on it rather quickly after a few breakdowns led to open corner jumpers for Chalmers and Miller. I'll still take a few offensive boards by Miami over letting Lebron and Wade take it to the rack in man though Marion is a great matchup on whoever he gurards. If Marion is on Wade, it's James that's the aggressive one putting up the numbers I figure. The zone also likely conserved energy for the ill Nowitzki.
I've always had the utmost belief in Carlisle as a brilliant coach but some of his substitutions have been a bit perplexing.
So many ups and downs in every game. Another must win for the Mavs. Let's do this Mavs!
I cant remember the last time Ive been this excited for an NBA game, let alone a finals Game 5. As if the last 3 games havent been great enough and back and forth, all of the Lebron "checking out" and "now or never" has just set this game up for anticipation that it probably wont - but hopefully will - meet.
I have no doubt in my mind Lebron gets like 20-25pts. Maybe he gets more, but his boards and dimes will suffer. I think Heat would honestly be better served if he goes 22/9/6 than goes for 35/6/3.
Going into the playoffs, I thought the only way the finals would be this exciting was if it was Heat-Lakers, but Dirk's career defining playoff statement this year has made this possibly even more exciting, because the team around him is just so average. When he goes to the bench, everytime I think to myself how the hell theyll prevent a 10-3 run by Miami, because they just look so outmanned. So not only does Dallas have that rooting factor where you want Dirk to get his, but really that team as a whole is a statement its not stars but team basketball in all aspects, including coaching, that can get you to win it all.
Quote from: capt. scotty on Jun 09, 2011, 06:59 PM
Going into the playoffs, I thought the only way the finals would be this exciting was if it was Heat-Lakers, but Dirk's career defining playoff statement this year has made this possibly even more exciting, because the team around him is just so average. When he goes to the bench, everytime I think to myself how the hell theyll prevent a 10-3 run by Miami, because they just look so outmanned. So not only does Dallas have that rooting factor where you want Dirk to get his, but really that team as a whole is a statement its not stars but team basketball in all aspects, including coaching, that can get you to win it all.
It's your basic Good vs. Evil
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jun 09, 2011, 07:33 PM
Quote from: capt. scotty on Jun 09, 2011, 06:59 PM
Going into the playoffs, I thought the only way the finals would be this exciting was if it was Heat-Lakers, but Dirk's career defining playoff statement this year has made this possibly even more exciting, because the team around him is just so average. When he goes to the bench, everytime I think to myself how the hell theyll prevent a 10-3 run by Miami, because they just look so outmanned. So not only does Dallas have that rooting factor where you want Dirk to get his, but really that team as a whole is a statement its not stars but team basketball in all aspects, including coaching, that can get you to win it all.
It's your basic Good vs. Evil
Yeah, but how do you pick if its Kobe vs Lebron then?
I see what youre saying, but it almost feels like most people just dont want Lebron to win this year. Like, "well the Heat can win 5 in a row, just not his 1st year after betraying Cleveland".
I want the Mavs to win, but I wont be disappointed if Lebron puts on a show the next 2-3 games and starts the dynasty now.
Quote from: capt. scotty on Jun 09, 2011, 07:56 PM
Yeah, but how do you pick if its Kobe vs Lebron then?
Easy. After the "announcement" Lebron became the most egotisitcal (and overrated) pro athlete of all time. Name another athlete with greater accolades with no championship.
I am taking my talents to South Beach?
I have never seen an athlete do so little with so much hype. Mind boggling. Everyone treats him like the 8 championships that he will win have already been won. The idea that his name is uttered in the same breath with MJ and Kobe is puuure sensationalism and great NBA marketing. You listen to those phony "pep talks" he gives before the game? It's like he's reading a script. ;D
I think humility will serve him better in the long run. That's why I want him to lose; I am more concerend about his development as a human being rather than his fixation w/ bball bling.
I am praying he loses so he will become a better person.
meanwhile...
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MCBNSn1DlAU/SUqgFRiUWrI/AAAAAAAABsA/EtGjMCWYako/s400/DrJ.jpg)
Yeah, and half of that is his fault for the most part. He's no Jordan, but he's clearly beyond talented athletically. "The Decision" put even his biggest supporters against him. His "back against the wall", when theyre up 2-1 last game, was laughable. Especially since Wade has carried the team...
.....and Wade goes to the locker room.
What Will Lebron Do
Should be an interesting 2nd half...Lebron hasnt impressed me so far for the "come back" game but the 4th is what matters
Chalmers is ridiculous. Anyone coaching against him should immediately foul when theres less than 10sec in the 4th
drug test this guy, now
(http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/551/686/107041121_display_image.jpg?1291778123)
when they said Eddie House, I honestly thought they confused him for Bibby ;D
I guess Wade is planning on making multiple injury appearances so he's Willis Reed Part 2
2-3-2 is a stupid format. The NHL's 2-2-1-1-1 is far more fair and interesting. Even 2-3-1-1- is better than what the NBA has in place now. Still, GO MAVS!
Quote from: Jaimoe on Jun 09, 2011, 11:18 PM
2-3-2 is a stupid format. The NHL's 2-2-1-1-1 is far more fair and interesting. Even 2-3-1-1- is better than what the NBA has in place now. Still, GO MAVS!
Leave it to Jaimoe to bring hockey into a basketball match!! ;D ;)
The JETTTTTT!!!!!
...and so Lebron scored I believe 2 pts in the 4th...but he did get a tripdub I believe....so what does Rome, Bayless, etc say bout him tomorrow...or Wilbon and Magic tonight?!
Quote from: capt. scotty on Jun 09, 2011, 11:46 PM
Quote from: Jaimoe on Jun 09, 2011, 11:18 PM
2-3-2 is a stupid format. The NHL's 2-2-1-1-1 is far more fair and interesting. Even 2-3-1-1- is better than what the NBA has in place now. Still, GO MAVS!
Leave it to Jaimoe to bring hockey into a basketball match!! ;D ;)
NBA and NHL aren't that different. The NBA seems to shoot itself during playoff time regarding momentum and striking when the iron is hot and the playoff format is another example of the league being out of touch with fairness and intrigue. Anyway, James got one of the quietest playoff triple-doubles I've ever seen.
Fantastic! What a series! I'm saddened at the thought that this series has to end. Carlisle continues to make the right moves even if unorthodox. If the Heat defend the three point line better, they win and everyone would be raving about Lebron's triple double. I thought he stood out all game until the 4th quarter AGAIN ;D I believe Brian Cardinal attempted to draw 14 charges in a 30 second span, clearly an NBA Finals' record.
LOVE IT!
Quote from: Jaimoe on Jun 09, 2011, 11:53 PM
Quote from: capt. scotty on Jun 09, 2011, 11:46 PM
Quote from: Jaimoe on Jun 09, 2011, 11:18 PM
2-3-2 is a stupid format. The NHL's 2-2-1-1-1 is far more fair and interesting. Even 2-3-1-1- is better than what the NBA has in place now. Still, GO MAVS!
Leave it to Jaimoe to bring hockey into a basketball match!! ;D ;)
NBA and NHL aren't that different. The NBA seems to shoot itself during playoff time regarding momentum and striking when the iron is hot and the playoff format is another example of the league being out of touch with fairness and intrigue. Anyway, James got one of the quietest playoff triple-doubles I've ever seen.
Agreed, and I think the fact that there hasnt been a day off has carried the momentum of the finals (unlike previous series)
...and I shoulda bumped the hockey thread, but Im totally feeling the Bruins at this point. Timmy looks tough and ready to go, Luongo looks shook, and with as much talent as VAN has on the frontline, theyre all speed and finesse outside of Kesler (and Boston is playing physical)...plus VANs D is banged up, and Id be very nervous if I was a Nucks fan.
Yeah, home ice hasnt changed, but, BOS just won 12-1 over 2 games (11 goal difference is the most ever over 2 games in the finals). Gotta favor the B's even without Horton.
...am I in the right thread?!
Quote from: capt. scotty on Jun 05, 2011, 10:54 PM
If this series keeps going this way, Lebron should buy Wade a car or something because he's the reason theyre up 2-1 (if not 3-0)...Ironic that Bosh hits the game winner with how bad he's been shooting until that point this series.
Im also wondering why Barea doesnt get more PT with Kidd. Seems like anytime he's in the game, he's with Terry. Marion has been too good to keep him on the bench long, but Id love to see some more sets of Barea-Kidd-Terry-Dirk-Chandler.
8) 8) ::) ::) 8) :thumbsup:
After watching the Heat give up another late run to lose another game I feel that one of the largest factors in this series is coaching. 1 collapse is the players' fault but 3 late runs to win games, in my opinion, puts the blame on the Miami coach. Lebron had numbers tonight but I never felt like he was that much of a factor. The bench on both sides played really well.
Quote from: capt. scotty on Jun 10, 2011, 12:07 AM
Quote from: capt. scotty on Jun 05, 2011, 10:54 PM
If this series keeps going this way, Lebron should buy Wade a car or something because he's the reason theyre up 2-1 (if not 3-0)...Ironic that Bosh hits the game winner with how bad he's been shooting until that point this series.
Im also wondering why Barea doesnt get more PT with Kidd. Seems like anytime he's in the game, he's with Terry. Marion has been too good to keep him on the bench long, but Id love to see some more sets of Barea-Kidd-Terry-Dirk-Chandler.
8) 8) ::) ::) 8) :thumbsup:
Carlisle typically doesn't like to do that because he plays his second unit a lot together. But with Haywood out, Stevenson hobbled, and Stojakovic in the doghouse he pulled it out because of necessity. That said, that lineup is a major defensive and rebounding liability that I wouldn't have faith in for more than very brief stretches.
Barea finally made the shots he had been making all throughout the playoffs and Chandler has just been a beast.
Let's go Mavs!
Quote from: ophidiophobia on Jun 10, 2011, 12:08 AM
After watching the Heat give up another late run to lose another game I feel that one of the largest factors in this series is coaching. 1 collapse is the players' fault but 3 late runs to win games, in my opinion, puts the blame on the Miami coach. Lebron had numbers tonight but I never felt like he was that much of a factor. The bench on both sides played really well.
That's 2 games in a row the Heat were 1 possesion late calling a TO late. Junior should have called one right after Dirk went baseline and put the mavs up 102-100. Right after that James got a charge call.
Do the Heat have Chris Bosh?
I am a by no means a student of the game of NBA, but from what I've seen, hasn't Dirk now entered "one of the best playoff performances of all time, of any sport"?
You know you're pulling hard for the Panhandle Heat.
Experience.
This hasn't been talked about alot, but I ran the numbers on each team's starting 5 plus the 4 key subs and came up with their total NBA years:
Mavs- 96
Heat- 62
Mavs have 7 with 10 or more
Heat have 2 with 10 or more
Top 5 minutes players Mavs: 60 years
Top 5 minutes playes Heat: 30 years
Having played 2x as many games in your career as your opponent doesn't always put you at a physcial disadvantage, but I think it always gives you a mental edge (that, and I can't recall any Mavs players holding a prime time press conference to announce they were taking their talents to The Dallas Fort-Worth Metroplex ;)). That's a big factor (IMO) why the Heat, who may have more "talent", are down 3-2.
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Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jun 10, 2011, 10:45 AM
Experience.
This hasn't been talked about alot, but I ran the numbers on each team's starting 5 plus the 4 key subs and came up with their total NBA years:
Mavs- 96
Heat- 62
Mavs have 7 with 10 or more
Heat have 2 with 10 or more
Top 5 minutes players Mavs: 60 years
Top 5 minutes playes Heat: 30 years
Having played 2x as many games in your career as your opponent doesn't always put you at a physcial disadvantage, but I think it always gives you a mental edge (that, and I can't recall any Mavs players holding a prime time press conference to announce they were taking their talents to The Dallas Fort-Worth Metroplex ;)). That's a big factor (IMO) why the Heat, who may have more "talent", are down 3-2.
(http://i.acdn.us/image/A1548/1548200/300_1548200.jpg)
Normally I would disagree because I feel analysts and writers overplay the experience card to death only as a matter of convenience. No one talks about Favre throwing key picks as a rookie mistake or Kidd last night turning it over sloppily at least three times in the 1st quarter as the same. Additionally, I think the Heat regulars may have more finals experience with Wade, Haslem, James, House while the Mavs have Terry and Nowitzki.
BUT, I totally agree with you Tracy. The Mavs seem so remarkably calm and focused in key situations. It must be because they are so fuckin' old. They know this may be their last shot and their hunger is apparent. No matter what the Heat say, in the back of their minds they know they will have more chances
LeChoke!~ Go Mavs. (Guess you didn't take your talents all the way to the 4th QTR)..
Sincerely,
Proponent of Karma
As if we need more reason to hate the Heat in here. This is ridiculous altogether but one thing that really jumps out to me is how Wade starts doing this and Lebron starts doing the same thing. It's almost like he's a little kid trying to fit in with the older kids. http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=6648286 (http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=6648286)
Quote from: Ruckus on Jun 10, 2011, 12:14 AM
Quote from: capt. scotty on Jun 10, 2011, 12:07 AM
Quote from: capt. scotty on Jun 05, 2011, 10:54 PM
If this series keeps going this way, Lebron should buy Wade a car or something because he's the reason theyre up 2-1 (if not 3-0)...Ironic that Bosh hits the game winner with how bad he's been shooting until that point this series.
Im also wondering why Barea doesnt get more PT with Kidd. Seems like anytime he's in the game, he's with Terry. Marion has been too good to keep him on the bench long, but Id love to see some more sets of Barea-Kidd-Terry-Dirk-Chandler.
8) 8) ::) ::) 8) :thumbsup:
Carlisle typically doesn't like to do that because he plays his second unit a lot together. But with Haywood out, Stevenson hobbled, and Stojakovic in the doghouse he pulled it out because of necessity. That said, that lineup is a major defensive and rebounding liability that I wouldn't have faith in for more than very brief stretches.
Considering the bolded, Im surprised Corey Brewer hasnt seen more/any playing time. He's a versatile player, and while Lebron would be tough for him to handle defensively, he's long and he's an above average defender.
Agreed on Chandler playing great. Id also say he's the biggest reason theyre up 3-2 outside of DIRK and has been their most consistent player besides him this series as well. I dont watch the NBA until the playoffs at all really, but until this year Chandler always struck me as a bust (though not quite Kwame Brown proportions who I believe was the #1 pick before Chandler). Compared to previous series this year, it seems he's playing at an even higher level vs MIA, but he now strikes me as 1 of the more underrated players in the league by not getting recognition since he's not an offensive force.
And in an interesting twist, if Chandler didnt fail a physical, he'd probably be playing for the Thunder right now (and maybe still in the finals).
http://www.insidehoops.com/hornets-trade-chandler-021709.shtml#ixzz1OzKbwGbd (http://www.insidehoops.com/hornets-trade-chandler-021709.shtml#ixzz1OzKbwGbd)
Quote from: Jon T. on Jun 10, 2011, 03:12 PM
As if we need more reason to hate the Heat in here. This is ridiculous altogether but one thing that really jumps out to me is how Wade starts doing this and Lebron starts doing the same thing. It's almost like he's a little kid trying to fit in with the older kids. http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=6648286 (http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=6648286)
Yeah, I thought the Lebron joining in part was funny, as well as how Wade is ripping on Dirk for being sick then last night he milks his injuries for all theyre worth and makes 2 returns from the locker room
If you ask LeBron James to break a dollar, he'll only give you 75 cents.
Because he never has the fourth quarter.
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jun 10, 2011, 06:30 PM
If you ask LeBron James to break a dollar, he'll only give you 75 cents.
Because he never has the fourth quarter.
could he break a dollar vs Boston and Chicago?
Quote from: capt. scotty on Jun 10, 2011, 07:02 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jun 10, 2011, 06:30 PM
If you ask LeBron James to break a dollar, he'll only give you 75 cents.
Because he never has the fourth quarter.
could he break a dollar vs Boston and Chicago?
Who cares?
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jun 10, 2011, 07:16 PM
Quote from: capt. scotty on Jun 10, 2011, 07:02 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jun 10, 2011, 06:30 PM
If you ask LeBron James to break a dollar, he'll only give you 75 cents.
Because he never has the fourth quarter.
could he break a dollar vs Boston and Chicago?
Who cares?
Jus saying I think his struggles are starting to get to the point of being overblown. The Heat can still win the series. If he has a great 4th or singlehandedly wins them a game, the last few games are history and will be forgotten.
I am sensing a blow out. The Heat come out tight, the Mavs are cool, calm and collected. Lebron, Dwade an Bosh get in a 3 way fist-i-cuff brawl at the end of the 3rd and they all get ejected. Dampier leads the Heat with 12 points; a single double.
No blow outs so far, so
Mavs- 122
Heat- 87
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jun 11, 2011, 06:34 PM
I am sensing a blow out. The Heat come out tight, the Mavs are cool, calm and collected.
No blow outs so far, so
Mavs- 122
Heat- 87
Jus to remind you, they dont play til tomorrow, Cochise.
Id love it if they were playing tonight though. Hate these damn sunday night games
Quote from: capt. scotty on Jun 11, 2011, 06:37 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jun 11, 2011, 06:34 PM
I am sensing a blow out. The Heat come out tight, the Mavs are cool, calm and collected.
No blow outs so far, so
Mavs- 122
Heat- 87
Jus to remind you, they dont play til tomorrow, Cochise.
Id love it if they were playing tonight though. Hate these damn sunday night games
quite aware of when the game is kimosabe ;)
Got Vandy on deck tonight with a trip to their first CWS on the line
kemosabe, nice...I need to work that one into my vernacular more.
Quote from: capt. scotty on Jun 11, 2011, 06:51 PM
kemosabe, nice...I need to work that one into my vernacular more.
yep. I used Bob's brother (Futureman) here as a reference point. He nails it at the 1:24 mark
Little Banana (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKGpXfAdCAs#)
Flula - His Name is Dirk: The German Moses (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU6UHBYJOUw#ws)
Im usually still sleeping at this time on a sunday morning so I dont usually watch it, but why the hell is dana jacobsen on Sports Reporters?! Not only is she terrible, but Im pretty sure she's never written a column since being with ESPN. If she's a usual on this show, damn has it gone downhill.
Lebron after the loss talking about people being glad he lost:
"At the end of the day, all the people that was rooting on me to fail – at the end of the day they have to wake up tomorrow and have the same life that they had before they woke up today," James said. "They have the same personal problems they had today ...
"They can get a few days or a few months or whatever the case may be on being happy about not only myself, but the Miami Heat not accomplishing their goal, but they have to get back to the real world at some point."
Still giving it back Lebron? I hope he learns a little humility from this, but I highly doubt it.
That comment was just about as big as the Mavs winning today (which is sad), and I hated how every talking head on ESPN acknowledged it as a huge story, but said there wasnt anything wrong with it. Its almost like they took that stance bc the 4 letter network gave them a bonus for doing it. Of course he made an ass out of himself you jackholes!
Last night, Lebron had his chance to be humble, be honest, and focus on next year. Instead, he belittles the public and whatever fans he has left with a comment like that, and I honestly believe he did it to make himself feel better. Now a comment like that hits hardest in Cleveland, but I think that comment will be harder to forget this time next year than his 9pt finals decrease, most all time. Its like he relished being the villain so much this year, he could help himself from making that comment just so the Heat are the team to root against next year once again.
Now I wouldnt go to the point to say people wouldve sympathized with him after this run and his struggles, but just when he had a shot, he made a conceited dickhead athlete comment before he/the Heat even had a chance. I cant think of any other star athlete in any sport more full of himself, and it sucks, because Lebron could be really easy to like.
Quote from: capt. scotty on Jun 13, 2011, 07:53 PM
Lebron could be really easy to like.
Someone brought up a great point that Lebron has never had a father or a mentor or a coach or an older player, somebody who could reign him in. He's was given a lot of money and fame as a teenager (having his high school games on ESPN!) and I don't think he had a chance. I think he's too smart to go the way of Mike Tyson (plus, he's not crazy) but it seems Derick Rose and Kevin Durant got something he doesn't have. Was it the 1 year in college? Is it genetics? Who knows.
I loved watching the old timers get their nod last night and the nod to good ol' team ball.
Now, back to my miserable life :'(
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jun 13, 2011, 08:23 PM
Quote from: capt. scotty on Jun 13, 2011, 07:53 PM
Lebron could be really easy to like.
Someone brought up a great point that Lebron has never had a father or a mentor or a coach or an older player, somebody who could reign him in. He's was given a lot of money and fame as a teenager (having his high school games on ESPN!) and I don't think he had a chance. I think he's too smart to go the way of Mike Tyson (plus, he's not crazy) but it seems Derick Rose and Kevin Durant got something he doesn't have. Was it the 1 year in college? Is it genetics? Who knows.
I loved watching the old timers get their nod last night and the nod to good ol' team ball.
Now, back to my miserable life :'(
I heard that argument, but Im not sure how much weight it really holds. Ive also heard he's very close with his high school coach who basically would be that father figure. His ego got blown up more than any other high school player, but you can still see why based on his physical talent (he still looks like the same player he did 8yrs ago to me, just with more experience and better on D).
The whole college argument is really tough to gauge. You see high school guys like Kobe, Howard, Garnett achieve (but Lebron's only 26 now, were they better than him at this point?), and then there are 1 and done's like CP3, Melo, or more recent Rose and Durant. Im pretty sure Durant didnt make it to the sweet 16 his 1 year, while Rose was robbed of a championship. At this point, Id say Rose has more poise, but was that why?!
Hard to say, but if anyone wouldve been a man among boys in college, it wouldve been Lebron. All the other guys wouldve been fun to see in college, but Lebron wouldve dominated. Who knows if he gets to a final 4 of championship his 1 or 2 years, but it wouldve been fun and I definitely think it wouldve vastly helped his closeout/clutch ability.
He'd probably have more fans now as well
(http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/hey-lebron-hows-my-dirk-taste1.jpg)
Jordan vs. LeBron - Bad teacher (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uriXFGPx_3A#ws)
I was pulling my hair out listening to lazy analysts (Chris Webber) referring to Dallas as a bad defensive team, a result of not doing any research and just citing past reputations. Dallas finished 10th in pts allowed and 8th in FG% against. That's not bad at all for a team that shoots that well from three and the line.
Just as much as the Miami offense as a whole failed in key moments, the Dallas offense made three of the best defenses in the NBA look ordinary (Lakers, Blazers, and Heat). What an amazing team performance! In overanalyzing the deficiencies and failures of the Heat, it should be remembered that this team whupped up on the Thunder, SWEPT the Lakers and beat the Heat in 6 w/o home court advantage. They were hands down the best team in the playoffs and it wasn't even close.
As you guys mentioned, they deserve the credit and it felt so good to see such a great TEAM win, even if they kicked my team's ass.
EDIT: I was waiting for Dampier's single double. Also, what the hell was Mario Chalmers doing when the little pushing match between Stevenson and Haslem happened?
And on to the lockout....