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Title: Proposition 19...and legalization!
Post by: Bigsky on Nov 02, 2010, 01:00 PM
I personally think it's retarded that we spend so much money fighting this drug, but we are OK with people drinking and smoking cigarettes, which have far worse health effects. The fact that we send people to jail for possession is beyond belief... There are plenty of reasons to legalize.

I am just curious about peoples thoughts when it comes to this subject.

For those who are not familiar with this... http://www.voterguide.sos.ca.gov/propositions/19/

Title: Re: Proposition 19...and legalization!
Post by: walterfredo on Nov 02, 2010, 01:09 PM
<---- This CA resident is on his way to the polls shortly.  
Title: Re: Proposition 19...and legalization!
Post by: Jaimoe on Nov 02, 2010, 01:20 PM
Pot possession has been largely decriminalized in Canada. I'm ok with this, but I don't think pot is harmless (and recent medical studies suggest the drug is addictive). However, I hope California votes for legalization or at the least, decriminalization.
Title: Re: Proposition 19...and legalization!
Post by: touchingmept2 on Nov 02, 2010, 01:47 PM
Not sure if you all have seen it yet but....http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=ySySC_MaeJ4
Title: Re: Proposition 19...and legalization!
Post by: Bigsky on Nov 02, 2010, 04:29 PM
Here's some more...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101102/ap_on_el_ge/us_ballot_measures
Title: Re: Proposition 19...and legalization!
Post by: walterfredo on Nov 02, 2010, 04:37 PM
I just did my part.  Unfortunately, not looking like it will pass though.  

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Title: Re: Proposition 19...and legalization!
Post by: Bigsky on Nov 02, 2010, 04:39 PM
QuoteI just did my part.  Unfortunately, not looking like it will pass though.  

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The fact that it's on the ballot is huge!
Title: Re: Proposition 19...and legalization!
Post by: Sticky Icky Green Stuff on Nov 02, 2010, 06:32 PM
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMM_T_PJ0Rs[/media]

Zach on Bill Maher last friday talking about Prop 19:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b5J-FBpcPc[/media]

legalize it.
Title: Re: Proposition 19...and legalization!
Post by: Bigsky on Nov 03, 2010, 08:25 AM
It will come...not today, but in the near future... ;)

"It's still a historic moment in this very long struggle to end decades of failed marijuana prohibition," said Stephen Gutwillig, California director for the Drug Policy Project. "Unquestionably, because of Proposition 19, marijuana legalization initiatives will be on the ballot in a number of states in 2012, and California is in the mix."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101103/ap_on_el_ge/us_ballot_measures
Title: Re: Proposition 19...and legalization!
Post by: iLikeBeer on Nov 03, 2010, 11:10 AM
QuoteIt will come...not today, but in the near future... ;)

"It's still a historic moment in this very long struggle to end decades of failed marijuana prohibition," said Stephen Gutwillig, California director for the Drug Policy Project. "Unquestionably, because of Proposition 19, marijuana legalization initiatives will be on the ballot in a number of states in 2012, and California is in the mix."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101103/ap_on_el_ge/us_ballot_measures

Agreed.  It may not have passed in Cali yesterday, but I think the vote was closer than a lot of people probably expected and it won't take that long to close the gap.

Also, just by the fact that legalization became a ballot issue is HUGE in and of itself.  And with the growing numbers across the country that favor legalization, I feel it's not a matter of if as much as when!
Title: Re: Proposition 19...and legalization!
Post by: Sticky Icky Green Stuff on Nov 03, 2010, 11:17 AM
Quote
QuoteIt will come...not today, but in the near future... ;)

"It's still a historic moment in this very long struggle to end decades of failed marijuana prohibition," said Stephen Gutwillig, California director for the Drug Policy Project. "Unquestionably, because of Proposition 19, marijuana legalization initiatives will be on the ballot in a number of states in 2012, and California is in the mix."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101103/ap_on_el_ge/us_ballot_measures

Agreed.  It may not have passed in Cali yesterday, but I think the vote was closer than a lot of people probably expected and it won't take that long to close the gap.

Also, just by the fact that legalization became a ballot issue is HUGE in and of itself.  And with the growing numbers across the country that favor legalization, I feel it's not a matter of if as much as when!

yep we just gotta press the issue hard.  especially on any political forum or radio show.  spread the positive word.  when people realize they'd save money and be safer if weed was legalized I think the vote would be overwhelmingly for legalization.  
Title: Re: Proposition 19...and legalization!
Post by: Tracy 3000 on Nov 03, 2010, 11:18 AM
      [size=18]Probably NSFW[/size]

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgt_tizWGUc[/media]

Can't get enough of Bill Hicks; we miss him.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRs5mbOsEag&feature=related[/media]
Title: Re: Proposition 19...and legalization!
Post by: walterfredo on Nov 03, 2010, 11:25 AM
a bit of a bummer for sure.   Part of the problem, IMO, is that several of the traditional 'grow' states even voted this down, see link below of county by county breakdown.  Counties like Humboldt, Mendocino, Trinity and others voted against this...not because of how the actually believe, but because of pure greed.  If it became legal thousands and thousands of folks up there would lose some serious money, it's in their best financial interest to keep it illegal, thus keeping the price of their product high.  Kind of sucks if you ask me.  

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2010/results/individual/#CAI01

...oh well, I'm still legal.  
Title: Re: Proposition 19...and legalization!
Post by: Sticky Icky Green Stuff on Nov 03, 2010, 11:28 AM
Quotea bit of a bummer for sure.   Part of the problem, IMO, is that several of the traditional 'grow' states even voted this down, see link below of county by county breakdown.  Counties like Humboldt, Mendocino, Trinity and others voted against this...not because of how the actually believe, but because of pure greed.  If it became legal thousands and thousands of folks up there would lose some serious money, it's in their best financial interest to keep it illegal, thus keeping the price of their product high.  Kind of sucks if you ask me.  

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2010/results/individual/#CAI01

...oh well, I'm still legal.  

it would have been on the michigan ballot but one judge, one single person cockblocked it.  saying that some wording that was on the back of the form, a sentence or something, should have been on the front.  they had a 1000more signatures than they needed too.  67percent are pro-legalization here.  it's fucked.  
Title: Re: Proposition 19...and legalization!
Post by: Murph on Nov 03, 2010, 08:56 PM
Weed isn't legal already?  Could have sworn it was  :-?
Title: Re: Proposition 19...and legalization!
Post by: ManNamedTruth on Nov 03, 2010, 09:21 PM
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGsEt-qtOqs[/media]
Title: Re: Proposition 19...and legalization!
Post by: Sticky Icky Green Stuff on Nov 03, 2010, 09:55 PM
Quote[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGsEt-qtOqs[/media]

killer track.