....without mentioning john bonham, keith moon, or patrick hallahan (because i figure those would be the most popular)
tony williams (my personal favourite...ever)
neil peart
lars ulrich
mike bordin (faith no more)
jeremiah green (modest mouse)
i know i'm forgetting some, but those are the first ones that come to mind.
hahaha, lars.
St. Anger had me lose all respect for the man.
My personal favorite is a man named Dan Burns. not just because he's one of my best friends, but because the man is absolutely amazing.
glen koetsche (or however you spell it) from Wilco
that man is simply incredible. seeing Wilco last week was amazing, because his abilities are so darn phenomenal.
yeah most all post-'....and justice for all' metallica is shit is my book, but i'm just going with the stuff i like and enjoy.
http://www.perkinspalace.com/
me.
Carter Beauford
Bill Kreutzmann
Billy Martin
Danny Carey
Jose Pasillas II
Jon Fishman
Jim Keltner
http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Jim_Keltner.html
i'm going to go out on a limb & say larry mullen jr, if only because me & my best friend fell in love with him when we were 12 ;)
Gonna have to go with John Bonham, Keith Moon & Patrick Hallahan!
Chuck Biscuits blew me away when I saw Danzig live.
So did Joey Castillo when I saw him kick the shit out of the skins for QOTSA (stolen from Danzig funnily enough).
An obvious choice, I know but Dave Grohl has always impressed me.
My last mention would have to be Alfredo Hernandez who took over from Brant Bjork for Kyuss.
I should also mention my Dad, who has played the drums since he was a teenager.
His band The Raiders supported the likes of Buddy Holly & Johnny Kid & The Pirates.
He retired a couple of years ago & now has serious problems with his knee due to his drumming.
My friend & I used to roadie for him :)
how could i forget dave grohl!!! he's always a pretty impressive drummer
Mike Portnoy from Dreamtheater is AMAZING.
Definitely in the same league as Danny Carey as far as prog drumming goes.
Any list without Buddy Rich at the top makes no sense to me. Max Roach, Elvin Jones and Gene Krupa have to be on every list too. Same with Jack DeJohnette and the aforementioned Tony Williams. The jazz guys put rock drummers to shame, and this is from a devoted Keith Moon worshipper.
Check out the greatest soloist in action from youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=buddy+rich
Levon Helm....hands down!
QuoteSame with Jack DeJohnette and the aforementioned Tony Williams. The jazz guys put rock drummers to shame, and this is from a devoted Keith Moon worshipper.
word.
Some say there is no other drummer:
Buddy Rich(http://freddywarren.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/jazz/n-s/imgs/Buddy%20Rich2.jpg)
but, there's also:
Neil Peart
(http://www.andrewolson.com/Neil_Peart/R30neil.jpg)
Simon Phillips
(http://www.tunesdayrecords.de/Musiker/Schlagzeuger/AA%20Fotos%20Drummer/Simon-Phillips.jpg)
plus the usual suspects
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtEnHtXj-Xc
Oh yeah, as rock drummers go, Bill Bruford remains one of the most revered. Take your pick of great drummers that did duty with Frank Zappa's bands: Terry Bozio, Chester Thompson, Aynsley Dunbar, Ralph Humphrey, Vinnie Colaiuta, Chad Wackerman and the most underrated of the bunch, original Mother Jimmy Carl Black.
(http://www.drummerworld.com/pics/drum4/guestlove2.jpg)
(http://www.mtv.com/bands/r/roots/flipbook_04_04/images/DSC_0028.jpg)
(http://www.blivit.net/images/photos/quest_animal.jpg)
For Rock:
-Tim Alexander
-Stephen Perkins (if you think his drumming is only consistent for Jane's Addiction, listen to Banyan and be blown away)
-Chad Smith
I'm not really fond of DMB anymore, but Carter Beauford is a complete bad ass.
Herb Alexander is great.
Sasquatch is also awesome, although the D is not a power trio.
Carter Beauford
John Bonham
Patrick Hallahan
Stewart Copeland
..................not necesarily in that order.
we stated not to post Bonham and Hallahan!
Quotewe stated not to post Bonham and Hallahan!
Just had to. I cant deny them from my list.
Quotehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtEnHtXj-Xc
Thanks for that Tom, great video.
The "Ginge"
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glen koetsche (or however you spell it) from Wilco
that man is simply incredible. seeing Wilco last week was amazing, because his abilities are so darn phenomenal.
Yeah, Glenn Kotche, he's the perfect drummer for them.
I also appreciate Danny Carrey from Tool and the primal enthusiasm of Dave Grohl.
Scott Rockenfield - Queensryche/Slave for the System
Frank Bloom (Various) and Jason Maner (Shadowflag) - local guys :-)
Other than those we won't mention--
Frank Beard (That lil ole band from Texas)
Bill Bruford
Neal Peart
Buddy Rich
Tony Williams
Billy Cobham
Mitch Mitchell
Ed Cassidy
I will concur on Glenn Kotche...he's one of the few rock drummers these days who seems to approach drumming as a "craft". If you haven't seen the Wilco Book, it's a must see for drummers ( or any musician for that matter). He keeps a notebook with blueprints for new drum and percussion instruments that he then builds and uses in Wilco and his own solo stuff.
Also John Stanier, the original drummer for Helmet....
Jon Theodore from the Mars Volta (unfortunately no longer with them)
Josh Garza from The Secret Machines.....(the new Bonham...as far as tasty heavy grooves go...in my book)
Herb the Ginseng Drummer from Primus
Jimmy Chamberlain from the Pumpkins
From my all time favorite band Hum---Bryan St. Pere
William Goldsmith from Sunny Day Real Estate
Kelli Scott from Failure
How bout Nick Mason....especially in the pre-Darkside era?
Oh my....and Terry Bozzio....especially with Zappa. What a bad-ass.
Whatever Happened To The Great Rock Drummer?
http://www.mojo4music.com/blog/2009/01/whatever_happened_to_the_great_1.html
In 1969 we had John Bonham. Today we have Metallica's Lars Ulrich. Bad swop, says MOJO's Mat Snow.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, LED ZEPPELIN I! Forty years ago last week, the world was rocked by a band that might have struggled to establish themselves as something rather more than Jeff Beck Group copycats but for one oh-so-crucial difference. The drummer. Jeff Beck had Micky Waller (who died last year). But Led Zeppelin had John Bonham, and overnight rock'n'roll had a brand new beat which echoes to this day.
The arrival of Bonzo on the scene makes 1969 the year of the rock star drummer. For 1969 was the year Jagger rhetorically enquired from the stage at Madison Square Garden, "Charlie's good tonight, innee?" (and Watts had indeed made a giant leap that summer with the cowbell-and-kick-drum bump-and-grind of Honky Tonk Women, a worldwide Number 1 for the Stones). It was the year even Ringo treated us – on Abbey Road – to a solo to show he could keep up with the Keith Moons, Ginger Bakers and Mitch Mitchells — drummers whose combination of prowess and showmanship demanded they share the spotlight with the front-stage rock gods swinging the mike stands, humping the humbuckers and being busted by the Man.
These war baby rock'n'roll drummers so bulged with style, panache and personality that you didn't have to be a trained muso to know at gut-level that if you subtracted them from the band, you no longer had a band. Or at least, not one half so good. Whatever happened to drummers like that? Drummers whose names even non-drummers knew? Drummers you'd champion in Melody Maker and Playboy year-end polls? Drummers at whom you'd even shout, "Do Toad!!"?
Struggling to name a contemporary rock'n'roll drummer with the kind of clout that back in the Nixon era turned every velvet-looned fan of rock music's finer points into a gleeful, head-banging idiot, I came up with just three names: Dave Grohl and, at a pinch, Larry Mullen and Meg White.
Only three? Either there is something wrong with drummers these days, or something wrong with me. I craved guidance, and for my pains was furnished with a list of names and YouTube links featuring hot polyrhythmic action. So I got lost on-line for a while, and guess what? The best drummer alive is still funk legend Bernard Purdie (which is to say, you can watch him host a drum clinic and find yourself tapping your foot and muttering a groovy "Yeah!" to a computer screen, for crying out loud). But his aren't the kind of chops I was after.
So, factoring out post-'69-but-no-longer-cutting-edge masters (for instance, Richie Hayward, Paul Thompson, Stewart Copeland, Pete Thomas, Paul Cook, Topper Headon, Budgie, Steve Morris, John Maher, Reni or Brendan Canty) and still-breathing hired hotshots (like "Pretty" Purdie, Hal Blaine, Steve Gadd, Sly Dunbar, Steve Jordan or Phil Collins — wonderful on Eno and John Martyn records even if his band work with Genesis, like that of Bill Bruford with Yes and King Crimson, is more likely to induce a cerebral aneurysm rather than a wiggle in your hips) I give you a thumbless handful of drummers who would merit comparison with the class of '69 if they had a little more originality: Phil Rudd of AC/DC, The Roots' ?uestlove, Rammstein's Christoph Schneider and The E Street Band's Max Weinberg.
I also give you, and you're welcome to them, any number of onanistic speed-freaks, paradiddlists and swing-free flamsters for whom the human pulse, heartbeat and feet are an utter irrelevance, thus flying straight over my head.
I'm sure Danny Carey (Tool), Joey Jordison (Slipknot), Dave Lombardo (Slayer), Brian Chippendale (Lightning Bolt) and Todd Trainer (Shellac) are lovely guys, but, please God, don't move in next door. Nor, frankly, do Lars Ulrich of Metallica or the Red Hot Chili Peppers' Chad Smith measure up to the Great Generation either: too pedantic, too short on swing, too, in a word, white.
For it seems to me that a drummer's apprenticeship lies at the heart of why the class-of-'69 so overshadows every generation since. The greats-of-'69 learned their trade copping R&B and jazz drummers like Baby Dodds, Gene Krupa, Dave Tough, Elvin Jones, Cozy Cole, Benny Benjamin and Jabo Starks, and honed their chops on a highly competitive live circuit where if they didn't get the customers to their feet, they wouldn't be asked back.
And if there's no denying that Metallica's Lars and the Chili Peppers' Chad have been getting their fans to their feet in far greater numbers and for far, far longer than did Cream's Ginger Baker, then there's no denying either that these cold and uncharismatic drummers rule right now because they are, quite frankly, the only game in town. We march to a different drum these days.
Rant over. Instead, a challenge: here are six mind-blowing showcase moments from my class of '69. Can today's skinsmen get within a rim-shot of any of them? Over to you.
Ringo Starr: Rain by The Beatles (single B-side, 1966)
Mitch Mitchell: I Don't Live Today by The Jimi Hendrix Experience (Are You Experienced, 1967)
Ginger Baker: Tales Of Brave Ulysses by Cream (Live Cream Volume II, recorded 1968)
Charlie Watts: Monkey Man by The Rolling Stones (Let It Bleed, 1969)
Keith Moon: Magic Bus by The Who (Live At Leeds, 1970)
John Bonham: In My Time Of Dying by Led Zeppelin (Physical Graffiti, 1975)
My comment:
"Patrick Hallahan of My Morning Jacket plays with Bonham's intensity, spirit & strength and is one of the best, if not the best drummer alive today.
Youtube their performance of One Big Holiday on Conan if you're not familiar with the band..."
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"Patrick Hallahan of My Morning Jacket plays with Bonham's intensity, spirit & strength and is one of the best, if not the best drummer alive today.
Youtube their performance of One Big Holiday on Conan if you're not familiar with the band..."
This is exactly what I tell my uninitated friends. First of all, out of everyone in the band, I think I'd like to share a heady brew with him the most. But more than that, no other drummer creates his percussive rolling thunder; the intensity is unmatched and he doesn't need a double bass drum pitterpattering incessantly to get heavy.
I look forward to run thru just to watch him go nuts. And as Zappa says, the most important part of the band is the percussion.
QuoteOther than those we won't mention--
Frank Beard (That lil ole band from Texas)
Bill Bruford
Neal Peart
Buddy Rich
Tony Williams
Billy Cobham
The only person to include Bill Cobham!!!
Ridiculous >:(
C'mon peeps. Pat's strong and all with his energy and his right foot but we're talking about drumming. Not in this conversation!
Sorry
I would like to add Steve Gorman of the Black Crowes.
If anyone has ever heard Jimmy Page and the Black Crowes' "Live at the Greek" - you know the guy's got talent.
QuoteI would like to add Steve Gorman of the Black Crowes.
If anyone has ever heard Jimmy Page and the Black Crowes' "Live at the Greek" - you know the guy's got talent.
I saw that tour. One of the coolest concerts ever, especially for someone too young to actually see Zeppelin. I'd almost prefer to see that tour than a half-assed zep reunion. Definitely know what you mean by that statement.
Patrick Carney of The Black Keys. He's the only drummer I've seen that broke a stick right in half from hitting the drums so hard (maybe it happens more than I know but I haven't ever seen that).
QuoteQuoteI would like to add Steve Gorman of the Black Crowes.
If anyone has ever heard Jimmy Page and the Black Crowes' "Live at the Greek" - you know the guy's got talent.
I saw that tour. One of the coolest concerts ever, especially for someone too young to actually see Zeppelin. I'd almost prefer to see that tour than a half-assed zep reunion. Definitely know what you mean by that statement.
Jimmy Page & the Crowes came to Japan for that tour. Can't remember why I didn't go but I still kick myself for not getting a ticket...
Mick Avory....just listen to The Village Green Preservation Society :o 8-)
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My comment:
"Patrick Hallahan of My Morning Jacket plays with Bonham's intensity, spirit & strength and is one of the best, if not the best drummer alive today.
Youtube their performance of One Big Holiday on Conan if you're not familiar with the band..."
PLUS! You get to see Jim play the way he used to--BAREFOOT! Ahh I remember.... 8-)
Murph! (Dinosaur Jr)
This dude is my hero:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmUbYiFXT_0[/media]
QuotePatrick Carney of The Black Keys. He's the only drummer I've seen that broke a stick right in half from hitting the drums so hard (maybe it happens more than I know but I haven't ever seen that).
This happens all the time, but it happens fast - you might not notice unless the pieces come flying at you ;)
Personal favorites are Glenn Kotche (for technique and innovation) and Janet Weiss (for sheer awesomeness, she didn't start playing until 22, can you believe?!?). And of course, Patrick is a total beast...
so fun to watch!
QuoteQuotePatrick Carney of The Black Keys. He's the only drummer I've seen that broke a stick right in half from hitting the drums so hard (maybe it happens more than I know but I haven't ever seen that).
This happens all the time, but it happens fast - you might not notice unless the pieces come flying at you ;)
Personal favorites are Glenn Kotche (for technique and innovation) and Janet Weiss (for sheer awesomeness, she didn't start playing until 22, can you believe?!?). And of course, Patrick is a total beast...so fun to watch!
I noticed it cause it flew straight up in the air over his head, I've never seen anything quite like it.
Matthew D Cameron must be on this list!!!!!
Manu Katche'
Dave Weckl
Steve Gadd
Not being a musician myself, a lot of the technical drumming stuff may be lost on me. These may not all fall into some 'best of' lists, but to my ears these are my favorites.
- ?uestlove (The Roots)
- Stewart Copeland (The Police)
- Clyde Stubblefield and Jabo Starks (James Brown's drummers)
- Phil Selway (radiohead)
- Raymond Weber (numerous folks, namely Dumpstaphunk)
- Carter Beauford (DMB)
And naturally, I'm a big fan of Patricks, but I suppose that goes without saying on this board.
And while I'm not really a huge fan of the band, it seems to me that Taylor Hawkins of the Foo Fighters knows his way around a drum kit.
My vote goes to Ginger Baker. I believe the track is called "Toad". It's a live track by Cream.
He virtually split himself into four, each keep their timing then playing with each other!!! I remember when I first heard it, my jaws dropped in amazement. If ever there was an excuse for a drum solo, that was it! A polyrhythmic freak...
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:aifqxqw5ldse~T1
I also think Dave Grohl's an amazing drummer. Pity he's wasting his talent playing guitar...
Al
(http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/q-muppets-animal.jpg)
QuoteStewart Copeland (The Police)
And while I'm not really a huge fan of the band, it seems to me that Taylor Hawkins of the Foo Fighters knows his way around a drum kit.
Yes!
Stephen Morris - JD/New Order - no one's mentioned him???
Neil Peart
Stewart Copeland
Joey Castillo :o
Max Roach is more creative soloing on a hi hat than most drummers playing with a full kit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8syiOwwVyY&feature=PlayList&p=E059F9CE69CD3517&index=7
QuoteMax Roach is more creative soloing on a hi hat than most drummers playing with a full kit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8syiOwwVyY&feature=PlayList&p=E059F9CE69CD3517&index=7
Yeah Jaimoe! Love it.
I loved the passing of the torch and generation change that happened from Post Bop Roach to Tony Williams in Lifetime and of course my guy Cobham.
Props to anyone who makes it through this in its entirety. I can't get enough
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtSIEkPqVgk[/media]
scott rager - tea leaf green
QuoteJoey Castillo :o
Joey playing Song For The Dead is insane!!!!!!
QuoteQuoteJoey Castillo :o
Joey playing Song For The Dead is insane!!!!!!
TRUE DAT! He's pretty damn versatile too, He can pound the hard stuff but also sit back in the groove like on "Make it witchu". Now he's taking over Josh Homme's duties on the Eagles of Death Metal tour.
Mastodon "Bang a Gong" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqayQGHHMhg#)
No Brann Dailor love?
I'm a bass guy. I lock in on the bass and hear the rest of the music around it. It takes a really good drummer to pull me away from that. Having said that, Pat draws my attention. He's pretty damn good.
Stewart Copeland isn't getting enough love in this thread. When I saw the Police I could not take my eyes off of him for one second.
And at the risk of being "that guy," I want to mention easily the best drummer I've ever seen. I'm not sure why he isn't well known. I used to see him with this cat Steve Kimock back in the day. Now he rolls around NYC playing small shows here and there. But I've watched him take 15 minute drum solos that remain interesting the entire time. I swear he's an octopus.
RODNEY HOLMES
Here's a quick 3 minute video. Check him out. Seriously.
Thomas Pridgen at Modern Drummer Fest 2008 (New footage) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72yH6HPhidM#ws)
Janet Weiss is my personal favorite, impressed the hell outta me when I saw her live.
I am also partial to Zeke Hutchins :thumbsup:
Danny... Carey....
Quote from: ManNamedTruth on Jan 25, 2009, 11:53 AM
Patrick Carney of The Black Keys. He's the only drummer I've seen that broke a stick right in half from hitting the drums so hard (maybe it happens more than I know but I haven't ever seen that).
I once saw Khanate at Tonic in NYC. Tim Wyskida was the drummer. He broke 3 drum sticks during their set. It was astounding.
I totally forgot about Matt Barrick of the Walkmen:
Walkmen - The Rat (Live Conan O'Brian) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX-S4sIjEeg#)
and Matt Thomas of The Joy Formidable:
The Joy Formidable - Whirring (Live on KEXP) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kNQeDlgBoc#ws)
Jean-Paul Gaster, from Clutch
Quote from: refundpolicy on Apr 28, 2013, 05:02 PM
Jean-Paul Gaster, from Clutch
HOW THE HECK DID I FORGET HIM TOO?? :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Television - Venus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f3d5ZdE4vY#)
Quote from: refundpolicy on Apr 28, 2013, 05:02 PM
Jean-Paul Gaster, from Clutch
DING DING DING DING DING!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2svRXaKep4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2svRXaKep4)
I like Gavin Harrison from Porcupine Tree, but I don't know anything about drumming, so maybe it's nothing special at all :P
Example:
Gavin Harrison Drum Solo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na0E0dgTtAU#ws)
This is well worth checking out. David Letterman sure loves his drums:
http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/stargazing/2013/06/12/david_letterman_asking_about_drums_is_the_best_thing_of_the_day.html (http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/stargazing/2013/06/12/david_letterman_asking_about_drums_is_the_best_thing_of_the_day.html)
I'd put Phil Collins in his prime up there with anyone. Not only could he drum his ass off, but when he took over vocals when Gabriel left he sang quite a bit from his kit. Fantastic to see, and hear. Unfortunately as the years went by he sang less, and less from there, and became more of a frontman. He still drummed, but mostly during the instramental parts. He was great out front too, but I missed seeing him primarily as a drummer.
We only got one tune in 07 with Phil singing from the kit, but we did get treated to this sweet duet with Chester Thompson.
A Conversation With Two Stools >Los Endos
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgt-L4uS8Mo (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgt-L4uS8Mo)
Quote from: ericm on Jun 13, 2013, 12:53 PM
I'd put Phil Collins in his prime up there with anyone. Not only could he drum his ass off, but when he took over vocals when Gabriel left he sang quite a bit from his kit. Fantastic to see, and hear. Unfortunately as the years went by he sang less, and less from there, and became more of a frontman. He still drummed, but mostly during the instramental parts. He was great out front too, but I missed seeing him primarily as a drummer.
We only got one tune in 07 with Phil singing from the kit, but we did get treated to this sweet duet with Chester Thompson.
A Conversation With Two Stools >Los Endos
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgt-L4uS8Mo (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgt-L4uS8Mo)
Don't forget Brand X
Brand X - Hate Zone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXamrqip4tA#)
Definitely wouldn't forget that, but figured there might not be many familiar with him being in that. Hell, I find most people now only know him as that "Disney" tunes guy. :wink:
It's a shame that now the man can't even hold a stick anymore. By the end of the 07 tour his nerve degeneration had taken it's toll, and before he gave up drumming for good, he had to have the sticks taped into his hands. I don't know if it's gotten any better lately, but it can't be easy to have a gift like that all your life, and then not be able to do it anymore.
Brand X Nuclear Burn
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=SrN4_Eg2Zx4 (http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=SrN4_Eg2Zx4)