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Title: U2 - No Line on the Horizon
Post by: primushead on Mar 02, 2009, 07:07 PM
I've only heard the single (Get on your Boots) but I haven't been too excited about that...is this album any good?  Should I get it?

I love U2.  I really do.  I just don't want to get this and be pissed off.  

Anyway, I think I'm gonna go out and get this album...with OR without you.
Title: Re: U2 - No Line on the Horizon
Post by: Bumbeli on Mar 02, 2009, 07:15 PM
QuoteI've only heard the single (Get on your Boots) but I haven't been too excited about that...is this album any good?  Should I get it?

I love U2.  I really do.  I just don't want to get this and be pissed off.  

Anyway, I think I'm gonna go out and get this album...with OR without you.

Great post, it's 1 am in the morning here and you already made my day.

Should I get it? Tell me! I'll get it, I don't care what you think.  :D

Thank you
Title: Re: U2 - No Line on the Horizon
Post by: Kenny76 on Mar 02, 2009, 07:19 PM
I also love U2.  Sorry to say this, but I'm very disappointed by it.  I'm even annoyed by it.  But opinion is divided.  I think it does get better than Get On Your Boots but not much.  It also gets worse.
Title: Re: U2 - No Line on the Horizon
Post by: ycartrob on Mar 02, 2009, 07:21 PM
AMG no likey; they only rate Pop as being "worse" than this one. Ouch!

A rock & roll open secret: U2 care very much about what other people say about them. Ever since they hit the big time in 1987 with The Joshua Tree, every album is a response to the last — rather, a response to the response, a way to correct the mistakes of the last album: Achtung Baby erased the roots rock experiment Rattle and Hum, All That You Can't Leave Behind straightened out the fumbling Pop, and 2009's No Line on the Horizon is a riposte to the suggestion they played it too safe on 2006's How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb. After scrapping sessions with Rick Rubin and flirting with will.i.am, U2 reunited with Brian Eno and Daniel Lanois (here billed as "Danny" for some reason), who not only produced The Joshua Tree but pointed the group toward aural architecture on The Unforgettable Fire. Much like All That You Can't and Atomic Bomb, which were largely recorded with their first producer, Steve Lillywhite, this is a return to the familiar for U2, but where their Lillywhite LPs are characterized by muscle, the Eno/Lanois records are where the band take risks, and so it is here that U2 attempts to recapture that spacy, mysterious atmosphere of The Unforgettable Fire and then take it further. Contrary to the suggestion of the clanking, sputtering first single "Get on Your Boots" — its riffs and "Pump It Up" chant sounding like a cheap mashup stitched together in GarageBand — this isn't a garish, gaudy electro-dalliance in the vein of Pop. Apart from a stilted middle section — "Boots," the hamfisted white-boy funk "Stand Up Comedy," and the not-nearly-as-bad-as-its-title anthem "I'll Go Crazy if I Don't Go Crazy Tonight"; tellingly, the only three songs here to not bear co-writing credits from Eno and Lanois — No Line on the Horizon is all austere grey tones and midtempo meditation. It's a record that yearns to be intimate but U2 don't do intimate, they only do majestic, or as Bono sings on one of the albums best tracks, they do "Magnificent." Here, as on "No Line on the Horizon" and "Breathe," U2 strike that unmistakable blend of soaring, widescreen sonics and unflinching openhearted emotion that's been their trademark, turning the intimate into something hauntingly universal. These songs resonate deeper and longer than anything on Atomic Bomb, their grandeur almost seeming effortless. It's the rest of the record that illustrates how difficult it is to sound so magnificent. With the exception of that strained middle triptych, the rest of the album is in the vein of "No Line," "Horizon," and "Breathe," only quieter and unfocused, with its ideas drifting instead of gelling. Too often, the album whispers in a murmur so quiet it's quite easy to ignore — "White as Snow," an adaptation of a traditional folk tune, and "Cedars of Lebanon," its verses not much more than a recitation, simmer so slowly they seem to evaporate — but at least these poorly defined subtleties sustain the hazily melancholy mood of No Line on the Horizon. When U2, Eno, and Lanois push too hard — the ill-begotten techno-speak overload of "Unknown Caller," the sound sculpture of "Fez-Being Born" — the ideas collapse like a pyramid of cards, the confusion amplifying the aimless stretches of the album, turning it into a murky muddle. Upon first listen, No Line on the Horizon seems as if it would be a classic grower, an album that makes sense with repeated spins, but that repetition only makes the album more elusive, revealing not that U2 went into the studio with a dense, complicated blueprint, but rather, they had no plan at all.


Title: Re: U2 - No Line on the Horizon
Post by: mjkoehler on Mar 02, 2009, 07:46 PM
I gave up on them after Zooropa, but in reality after Achtung Bay. It was all downhill after Achtung. You don't make an album that perfect and make anything better sadly.
Title: Re: U2 - No Line on the Horizon
Post by: ycartrob on Mar 02, 2009, 09:33 PM
QuoteI gave up on them after Zooropa, but in reality after Achtung Bay. It was all downhill after Achtung. You don't make an album that perfect and make anything better sadly.

yep
Title: Re: U2 - No Line on the Horizon
Post by: primushead on Mar 02, 2009, 09:34 PM
That's what I was afraid of.  I know they haven't really been one of those 'relevant' bands that still cranks out awesome studio stuff.  

Ney, they have been relegated into putting albums out just for the sake of having new material to play on massive stadium tours...

...still, I'm going to buy it.  I'm a sucker for U2.  I even thought Pop was an okay album. :-/
Title: Re: U2 - No Line on the Horizon
Post by: Penny Lane on Mar 02, 2009, 11:14 PM
i've heard get on your boots and magnificent----it's just not my thing. i've only liked a handful of songs in their last few albums.

rolling stone gave it 5 stars...don't get it
Title: Re: U2 - No Line on the Horizon
Post by: primushead on Mar 03, 2009, 12:45 AM
Quotei've heard get on your boots and magnificent----it's just not my thing. i've only liked a handful of songs in their last few albums.

rolling stone gave it 5 stars...don't get it

If a magazine has the Jonas Brothers on their cover, I don't listen to anything they have to say.
Title: Re: U2 - No Line on the Horizon
Post by: Penny Lane on Mar 03, 2009, 09:41 AM
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Quotei've heard get on your boots and magnificent----it's just not my thing. i've only liked a handful of songs in their last few albums.

rolling stone gave it 5 stars...don't get it

If a magazine has the Jonas Brothers on their cover, I don't listen to anything they have to say.

they love the Jacket so i have been giving them a chance. But yeah, you're right. they also love the killers and britney spears. what am i thinking...
Title: Re: U2 - No Line on the Horizon
Post by: Penny Lane on Mar 03, 2009, 09:55 AM
just read this

Mayor Bloomberg is expected to rename part of W.53rd St. at Broadway "U2 Way."

The temporary street renaming coincides with the release of the band's new CD, "No Line on the Horizon," and the kickoff last night of their five-night gig on "Late Show With David Letterman."

Besides winning Grammys and being inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, Bono and his bandmates are known worldwide for fighting for human rights and social justice. [Daily News]


Title: Re: U2 - No Line on the Horizon
Post by: Jbones72 on Mar 03, 2009, 11:06 AM
I've avoided listening to anything from it, other than stuff played on the radio, until I get it. Seems like it's going to be be a love or hate it album. I hear they are going to put out another one later this year with stuff they recorded with Eno/Lanois in Morocco. WRXP in NYC is playing all U2 today which is cool, haven't had anything like this in NYC since WNEW went away.
Title: Re: U2 - No Line on the Horizon
Post by: Penny Lane on Mar 03, 2009, 11:26 AM
QuoteI've avoided listening to anything from it, other than stuff played on the radio, until I get it. Seems like it's going to be be a love or hate it album. I hear they are going to put out another one later this year with stuff they recorded with Eno/Lanois in Morocco. WRXP in NYC is playing all U2 today which is cool, haven't had anything like this in NYC since WNEW went away.

i've been listening to 101.9 all day. they have steve lillywhite in the studio this morning and Dan Auerbach in the studio yesterday morning. i love this station!!
Title: Re: U2 - No Line on the Horizon
Post by: Jbones72 on Mar 03, 2009, 12:06 PM
Quote
QuoteI've avoided listening to anything from it, other than stuff played on the radio, until I get it. Seems like it's going to be be a love or hate it album. I hear they are going to put out another one later this year with stuff they recorded with Eno/Lanois in Morocco. WRXP in NYC is playing all U2 today which is cool, haven't had anything like this in NYC since WNEW went away.

i've been listening to 101.9 all day. they have steve lillywhite in the studio this morning and Dan Auerbach in the studio yesterday morning. i love this station!!


me too, isn't great to hear interesting music interviews on the radio again!
Title: Re: U2 - No Line on the Horizon
Post by: Penny Lane on Mar 03, 2009, 01:46 PM
yes i think matt pinfield is really connected in the biz, which helps.
Title: Re: U2 - No Line on the Horizon
Post by: capt. scotty on Mar 03, 2009, 02:14 PM
Quoteyes i think matt pinfield is really connected in the biz, which helps.

that bald head fat bastard who used to be on MTV?!!?!?

I figured he was still following Soundgarden around on the road
Title: Re: U2 - No Line on the Horizon
Post by: Jbones72 on Mar 03, 2009, 04:48 PM
Quoteyes i think matt pinfield is really connected in the biz, which helps.

i was happy when they got him, i remember him from way back when i was in high school on fm 106.3 in jersey! sadly like wnew that station is long gone. i have to try and get to some of the events rxp has in the city.
Title: Re: U2 - No Line on the Horizon
Post by: tbone on Mar 05, 2009, 12:17 AM
NEWS FLASH:

The new U2 record is beyond bad.  

That's a tough thing to say for someone who has loved this band for more than 20 years.

U2 has never released a "bomb" imo - until this one.

The record is plain awful.  Pop is a masterpiece by comparison and Zooropa was much, much better - which is saying something.

I can only imagine how much David Fricke was paid to offer up a 5 star review in RS... lol  I mean - Achtung (my personal fave - and arguably the best thing they have ever created) was given either 4 or 4.5 (i can't recall) in RS back in 91.

Don't believe the hype - this one is a stinker with no substance whatsoever... worse - it sounds straight up terrible.... which totally sucks i know but i've given it 7-10 spins and know to trust my ears at this point.

Spend your time w/ the new Animal Collective, Andrew Bird, M Ward, Neko, etc. instead...
Title: Re: U2 - No Line on the Horizon
Post by: The DARK on Mar 05, 2009, 06:58 PM
Not getting the negative vibes here. I really like several songs on there, and I can't think of any that I outright hate. Lyrics are also much improved.
Title: Re: U2 - No Line on the Horizon
Post by: buaawwww on Mar 06, 2009, 09:27 AM
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QuoteI gave up on them after Zooropa, but in reality after Achtung Bay. It was all downhill after Achtung. You don't make an album that perfect and make anything better sadly.

yep

Hmm... gotta say I couldn't disagree with you guys any more.  Zooropa was very good, has alot of excellent songs on it (the title track, Daddy's Gonna Pay For Your Crashed Car, The First Time) and POP is to me criminally underrated.  
Title: Re: U2 - No Line on the Horizon
Post by: Penny Lane on Mar 06, 2009, 09:36 AM
i liked zooropa and pop, too

i think the numbers are decieving though; (only selling half as many copies the first week as their last) a lot has to do w/advanced technology (file sharing) plus as their fans get older they don't rush out the first day to get it anymore.
Title: Re: U2 - No Line on the Horizon
Post by: buaawwww on Mar 06, 2009, 11:25 AM
Yeah I really don't see where you can say a U2 album outright "sucked".  I have given the new album about 3 listens now and I have to say that it is good... has some very good tunes on it.  U2 is a band that cannot release an album that "sucks".  They get points for originality too (like going from Joshua Tree to Achtung to Zooropa, Pop, etc).  

I think I am going to have to listen to Zooropa right now actually.
Title: Re: U2 - No Line on the Horizon
Post by: Jbones72 on Mar 06, 2009, 02:23 PM
QuoteYeah I really don't see where you can say a U2 album outright "sucked".  I have given the new album about 3 listens now and I have to say that it is good... has some very good tunes on it.  U2 is a band that cannot release an album that "sucks".  They get points for originality too (like going from Joshua Tree to Achtung to Zooropa, Pop, etc).  

I think I am going to have to listen to Zooropa right now actually.



I couldn't agree more!
Title: Re: U2 - No Line on the Horizon
Post by: vadermaul on Mar 06, 2009, 04:14 PM
Hi guys, I've been a huge U2 fan since Achtung Baby days (1st rock show was ZooTV at age 14).  And have enjoyed every U2 album release since.  Big U2 Pop fan which is a really underrated rock album and I really think U2 would have followed up with the album/sound they released this week.  

Its nice to see some other MMJ fans give U2 respect, which I think many people think the band takes for granted.  For the past 2 weeks they've been promoting the album unlike other bands would at their age.  I find U2 unique in that they still go through the record/making an album process as if this is their 2nd album by trying to make it fresh/relevant.  And its hard for them to cater to the mass audience they have while making it challenging as artist for themselves.  But this latest album I think really has some great tunes and cohesively makes sense as a very good rock album.  

In a nut-shell, its cool to see MMJ fans (the coolest fans ever) enjoy U2.   :)

Great performance here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIDGE7NJEkM
Title: Re: U2 - No Line on the Horizon
Post by: Kenny76 on Mar 06, 2009, 08:50 PM
I listened to Pop the other day, and it's a better record than this new one by far.  Pop and October were the only U2 albums I found lacking before this.

that said, the new album is far from the worst album I've ever heard.  it has it's moments.  but a lot of it just weird, and not in a good way.  I simply don't want to listen to Bono singing shit lyrics over cheesy synth sounds... can you blame me?


I will, however, happily listen to Geddy Lee sing shit lyrics over cheesy synth sounds.  I'm a walking contradiction then, maybe.
Title: Re: U2 - No Line on the Horizon
Post by: bold99 on Mar 10, 2009, 01:48 PM
Weird to think one of the biggest bands in the world will be about 5 mintues from my apartment where I get on an off the train everyday.  they are playing the Somerville theater tomorrow night, it is going to be insane down there when I get out of work.

U2 fans still haven't found what they're looking for.

Speculation about the venue for next Wednesday's increasinglyless-stealthy secret U2 show continues, with suggestions ranging from the obvious (the Paradise) to the absurd (Davis Square's Joshua Tree).

But one previously unmentioned location now seems to have the Edge - the Somerville Theatre .

Title: Re: U2 - No Line on the Horizon
Post by: walterfredo on May 20, 2011, 11:19 AM
looks like Bono is really concerned about the band's carbon footprint.  check out the new stage.....Good Lawd!  47 trucks.   :-X  What happened to getting on a stage an playing some rock n' roll? 

http://blogs.westword.com/backbeat/2011/05/u2_at_invesco_field_360_tour_the_stage_is_set.php (http://blogs.westword.com/backbeat/2011/05/u2_at_invesco_field_360_tour_the_stage_is_set.php)

(http://blogs.westword.com/backbeat/u22.jpg)


Title: Re: U2 - No Line on the Horizon
Post by: iLikeBeer on May 20, 2011, 01:27 PM
This has been their stage for a while now.  This was their stage when I saw them at Soldier Field in Chicago back in the fall of 2009.

But I agree with you in regards to your question about what happened to just getting on a stage and playing rock 'n roll.