And time to give this a go again. It's always awesome when vxga can jump in to crunch the numbers too. :thumbsup: :dankk2: ;D
Simply put, you can assign each album any numerical value (higher being better) so long as the total of points given to all 6 full length studio albums total up to 30. You can use half points. I know last time we did this, the rankings skewed towards earlier stuff. I hope those that are fans of the recent stuff speak up! :beer: (so I can tell you how wrong you are)
AD - 9
ISM - 7
Z - 5
TTF - 5
Circuital - 2
EU - 2
Weird... I was just thinking the other day that there's probably been enough time to do another ranking. Here is mine.
AD-7
ISM-7
TTF-6
Z-5
C-3
EU-2
I feel bad ranking Circuital and EU so low because I do like both of them. But, when compared to ISM & AD, I guess they're ranked accordingly.
AD-8
Z-7
ISM-6
C-4
TTF-3
EU-2
Good post, but rankings should be taken lightly as an MMJ 2 is still better than most bands top releases. That said ....
ISM - 7
AD - 7
Z - 6
TTF - 4
EU - 3
C - 2 (I would still give it 4 ****s if I was rating it for a magazine)
If I could add Okonokos, I would simply just give that one as a 30 and be done with it.
(Or maybe Ok as a 20 with AC as a 10) I don't know, I'm so confused!
It Still Moves- 7
Z- 7
At Dawn- 5
Circuital- 4
Evil Urges- 4
The Tennessee Fire- 3
ISM - 7
AD - 6
TTF - 5
C - 5
Z - 5
EU - 2 <--- my current obsession with Touch Me 1 & 2 saved this from getting 0
Currently: (for best results, copy and paste :beer: )
At Dawn - 50.5
It Still Moves - 49.5
Z - 41
The Tennessee Fire - 30
Circuital - 21
Evil Urges - 18
ISM 8
AT 8
Z 6
TTF 4
EU 3
C 1
ugh- my numbers only added up to 29. should not have skipped that math class in high school.
I'll add an extra .5 to each of ISM and AD
Let's make both of those 7.5 and forget that I should have used a calculator. :o
Currently: (for best results, copy and paste :beer: )
At Dawn - 50.5
It Still Moves - 49.5
Z - 41
The Tennessee Fire - 30
Circuital - 21
Evil Urges - 18
My rankings
It Still Moves-8
At Dawn-7
Z-7
Tennessee Fire-5
Circuital-2
Evil Urges - 1
CURRENTLY NOW (copy and paste)
At Dawn - 58.5
It Still Moves - 56.5
Z - 48
The Tennessee Fire - 35
Circuital - 23
Evil Urges - 19
OK:
Z - 8
ISM - 7
AD - 6
C - 5
TTF - 3
EU - 1
And if it were'nt for Movin' Away and First Light, Circuital would be my 3rd.
CURRENTLY NOW (copy and paste)
At Dawn - 64.5
It Still Moves - 63.5
Z - 56
The Tennessee Fire - 38
Circuital - 27
Evil Urges - 20
Penny, I did not realize you were such a Circuital hater!
ISM - 7.5
AD - 6.5
Z - 5
TTF - 5
EU - 2
C - 4
CURRENTLY NOW (back to integers)
At Dawn - 71
It Still Moves - 71
Z - 61
The Tennessee Fire - 43
Circuital - 31
Evil Urges - 22
AD - 7
TTF - 6
Z - 5
ISM - 5
EU- 4
C - 3
AD - 6
ISM - 5
Z - 7
TTF - 1
C - 3
EU - 8
Current Including gardenparty's
At Dawn - 83
It Still Moves - 81
Z - 73
The Tennessee Fire - 50
Circuital - 37
Evil Urges - 34
Yeah I did it, I love Evil Urges.....
AD-7
TTF-6
ISM-6
Z-5
C-3
EU-3
CURRENTLY MEOW
At Dawn - 90
It Still Moves - 87
Z - 78
The Tennessee Fire - 56
Circuital - 40
Evil Urges - 37
ISM - 7
AD - 6
C - 5
Z - 5
TTF - 5
EU - 2
CURRENTLY WOOF ;D
At Dawn - 96
It Still Moves - 94
Z - 83
The Tennessee Fire - 61
Circuital - 45
Evil Urges - 39
AD-9
TTF-7
ISM-6
Z-5
EU-2
C-1
CURRENTLY
At Dawn - 105
It Still Moves - 100
Z - 88
The Tennessee Fire - 68
Circuital - 46
Evil Urges - 41
Quote from: kotchishm on Jul 21, 2011, 06:01 PM
Current Including gardenparty's
oops :embarassed:
ISM-7.5
Z-6.5
AD-6.5
C-4.5
TTF-3
EU-2
CURRENTLY
At Dawn - 111.5
It Still Moves - 107.5
Z - 94.5
The Tennessee Fire - 71
Circuital - 50.5
Evil Urges - 43
ISM - 7
AD - 5.5
TTF - 5
Z - 5
C - 4
EU - 3.5
CURRENTLY
At Dawn - 117
It Still Moves - 114.5
Z - 99.5
The Tennessee Fire - 76
Circuital - 54.5
Evil Urges - 46.5
Fun but so difficult.....
ISM - 9
Z - 7
AD - 6
C - 4
EU- 3
TFF - 1
CURRENTLY
It Still Moves 123.5
AD 123
Z 106.5
TFF 77
Circuital 58.5
Evil Urges 49.5
Oh! It Still Moves edges out At Dawn for the first time! Such excitement! What a match, ladies and gentlemen! How will it end?
AD 9
ISM 8
Z 6
TTF 5
C 1
Eu 1
AD 132
ISM 131.5
Z 112.5
TTF 82
C 59.5
Eu 50.5
Z-8
ISM-6
C-5
AD-5
TTF-4
EU-2
CURRENTLY
AD 137
ISM 137.5
Z 120.5
TTF 86
C 64.5
Eu 52.5
Z - 8
AD - 6.5
ISM - 6.5
C - 5
TTF - 3
EU - 1
CURRENTLY
AD - 143.5
ISM - 144
Z - 128.5
TTF - 89
C - 69.5
EU - 53.5
ISM 7.5
TTF 7
C 5.5
AD 5
Z 4.5
EU 0.5
Current:
ISM 151.5
AD 148.5
Z 133
TTF 96
C 75
EU 54
ISM - 8
AD- 6.5
Z- 6.5
C - 5
TTF -3
EU - 1
Current:
ISM 159.5
AD 155
Z 139.5
TTF 99
C 80
EU 55
...
Quote from: Crispy on Jul 21, 2011, 04:12 PM
Penny, I did not realize you were such a Circuital hater!
not a hater...i like it-- but we were asked to rank it next to the other albums!
it doesn't come close in comparison..
Quote from: Penny Lane on Jul 22, 2011, 10:03 AM
Quote from: Crispy on Jul 21, 2011, 04:12 PM
Penny, I did not realize you were such a Circuital hater!
not a hater...i like it-- but we were asked to rank it next to the other albums!
it doesn't come close in comparison..
I hear you -- should have winked in my post -- just surprised to see it two clicks below EU. For me, Circuital's overall a better record, but of course, your opinion is yours. (CRAZY ;) )
And ISM now has a clear lead over AD! I wonder if all of these numbers should be compiled by an independent auditing organization.
ISM 7
Z 6.5
AD 6
TTF 5
C 4
EU 1.5
CURRENT:
ISM 166.5
AD 161
Z 146
TTF 104
C 84
EU 56.5
Agh! jones and I posted at the same time. I will add my total to his post.
ISM 8
AD 7
TTF 5
Z 5
C 3
EU 2
Current:
ISM 174.5
AD 168
Z 151
TTF 109
C 87
EU 58.5
OH MY GOD! Third modification...i can't flippin add... ???
Thanks, I was just about to do the same!
Please don't interpret the low low score for TTF as an indictment. When you love every single album by a band, it's hard to do something like this. And yet.....
ISM 9.5
Z 7
AD 5.5
C 3.5
EU 2.5
TTF 2
Current:
ISM 184
AD 173.5
Z 158
TTF 111
C 90.5
EU 61
Really tough assignment here, because all of the albums have their specific attributes. Call me a centrist.
Z 6
ISM 6
AD 5
C 5
EU 4
TF 4
Quote from: Penny Lane on Jul 21, 2011, 03:49 PM
ISM 8
AT 8
Z 6
TTF 4
EU 3
C 1
That is about right. Some room to play in the top 3, and change AT to AD, and it is my list.
so far...
ISM 198
AD 186.5
Z 170
TTF 119
C 96.5
EU 68
I won't bother looking back to my contribution to this here effort, but the current totals seem about right to me, at this moment.
Quote from: rincon on Jul 23, 2011, 01:26 PM
Quote from: Penny Lane on Jul 21, 2011, 03:49 PM
ISM 8
AT 8
Z 6
TTF 4
EU 3
C 1
That is about right. Some room to play in the top 3, and change AT to AD, and it is my list.
Or you could submit your own. Just sayin'
Quote from: Ruckus on Jul 23, 2011, 02:03 PM
Quote from: rincon on Jul 23, 2011, 01:26 PM
Quote from: Penny Lane on Jul 21, 2011, 03:49 PM
ISM 8
AT 8
Z 6
TTF 4
EU 3
C 1
That is about right. Some room to play in the top 3, and change AT to AD, and it is my list.
Or you could submit your own. Just sayin'
If I am gonna plagerize, I will give credit where it is due. A point here or there between the top 3 in negligable at best. Just sayin.
AD - 8
ISM -7
TTF -5
C - 5
Z - 3 (like this album (songs) better in a live setting)
EU --2
After Roscog
ISM 205
AD 194.5
Z 173
TTF 124
C 101.5
EU 70
Quote from: rincon on Jul 23, 2011, 03:37 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Jul 23, 2011, 02:03 PM
Quote from: rincon on Jul 23, 2011, 01:26 PM
Quote from: Penny Lane on Jul 21, 2011, 03:49 PM
ISM 8
AT 8
Z 6
TTF 4
EU 3
C 1
That is about right. Some room to play in the top 3, and change AT to AD, and it is my list.
Or you could submit your own. Just sayin'
If I am gonna plagerize, I will give credit where it is due. A point here or there between the top 3 in negligable at best. Just sayin.
I was just enjoying the cumulative tally we were having by everyone that posted here because that's what was happening in this thread. Besides I'm an At Dawn supporter so if you were to maybe give it an extra point over ISM, that would be great!
I'd also change plagerize to plagiarize and negligable to negligible ;)
I guess my spell check is not working. It usually does.
I'll play
ISM 7
Z 7
AD 6
TTF 5
EU 4
C 1
OK, maybe not just like Penny, but pretty damn close.
'I'd also change plagerize to plagiarize and negligable to negligible" Wow!
Quote from: rincon on Jul 23, 2011, 05:27 PM
I guess my spell check is not working. It usually does.
I'll play
ISM 7
Z 7
AD 6
TTF 5
EU 4
C 1
OK, maybe not just like Penny, but pretty damn close.
'I'd also change plagerize to plagiarize and negligable to negligible" Wow!
;D What? You don't approve of my obnoxious passive aggression. I was just messin' man after you pointed out Penny's misspelling. ;D
Well if you were gonna knock down At Dawn another point...
Currently
ISM 212
AD 200.5
Z 180
TTF 129
C 102.5
EU 74
At Dawn - 7
Z - 6
It Still Moves - 6
Evil Urges - 4
Circuital - 4
The Tennessee Fire - 3
Quote from: Non Sin Diego Breaux on Jul 23, 2011, 05:49 PM
At Dawn - 7
Z - 6
It Still Moves - 6
Evil Urges - 4
Circuital - 4
The Tennessee Fire - 3
So currently...
ISM - 218
AD - 207.5
Z - 186
TTF - 132
C - 106.5
EU - 78
I'll go...
ISM - 23 (yeah, its really that good)
AD - 3
C - 2
Z - 1
TTF - 1
EU - 0
So that brings it to..
ISM - 241
AD - 210.5
Z - 187
TTF - 133
C - 108.5
EU - 78
Z-1 ? :(
Quote from: Ruckus on Jul 21, 2011, 02:53 PM
And time to give this a go again. It's always awesome when vxga can jump in to crunch the numbers too. :thumbsup: :dankk2: ;D
Simply put, you can assign each album any numerical value (higher being better) so long as the total of points given to all 6 full length studio albums total up to 30. You can use half points. I know last time we did this, the rankings skewed towards earlier stuff. I hope those that are fans of the recent stuff speak up! :beer: (so I can tell you how wrong you are)
AD - 9
ISM - 7
Z - 5
TTF - 5
Circuital - 2
EU - 2
same for me. tho cir and ttf are real close to me
6.7 ISM
6.2 Z
5.4 AD
4.6 C
4.6 TF
2.5 EU
So...after the last two entries, the standings remain:
ISM - 241
AD - 210.5
Z - 187
TTF - 133
C - 108.5
EU - 78
::)
Bold prediction: Circuital overtakes TTF in three pages...
Quote from: Non Sin Diego Breaux on Jul 25, 2011, 10:35 PM
Z-1 ? :(
On record, Z may be my least favorite record as a whole. Live, its near the top. ISM, and AD are obviously better, TTF I've barely heard live at all, so I'm still obsessed with the record. EU I always talk shit on, but on record I still love it. Though EU is probably the only one I like less than Z. Circuital flows as a record soooo well, where as Z is more of stand alone songs to me.
Quote from: capt. scotty on Jul 25, 2011, 08:54 PM
I'll go...
ISM - 23 (yeah, its really that good)
AD - 3
C - 2
Z - 1
TTF - 1
EU - 0
So that brings it to..
ISM - 241
AD - 210.5
Z - 187
TTF - 133
C - 108.5
EU - 78
or did you just wanna give it a more solid lead in the overall standings?
ISM 7
AD 7
TTF 6
Z 6
C 3.5
EU .5
It still moves-7
At Dawn-7
Z-6
C-5
TTF-4
EU-1
z- 7
ism - 7
at dawn - 6
tennessee far - 5
evil urges - 3
circuital - 2
Z - 7
ISM - 6.5
TTF - 6
AD - 6
C - 3
EU - 1.5
Z - 8
ISM - 7
C - 5
EU - 4
AD - 3
TTF - 3
These are based only on the original albums Based upon T5 and Chicago show where all the tracks for Circuital were played my ratings would be
TTF - 6 (Its amazing how much these songs sound better redone years later)
AD - 2 (I will have to say it was my least fav of the T5 shows. Overall Too mellow for a live show)
ISM - 6.5 (Most Killer songs on one album)
Z - 6.5 (Most consistent of all the albums, even Into the Woods was great live, which I can't stand on the album)
EU - 4.5 (Always gets clobbered, but overall a good album live)
C - 4.5 (Very Consistent not a bad song, but no real killers either)
Use the first set of numbers
tried doing this at work the other night and i think i came up with:
ttf: 5
ad: 8
ism: 7
z: 5
eu: 1
c: 4
tally:
ISM: 282.5
AD: 247.5
TTF: 162
Z: 226
EU: 89
C: 131
TTF:2
AD: 5
ISM: 6
Z: 8
EU: 5
C:4
Tennessee Fire is saved by 'Evelyn' and the 'Ol' September Blues' from early recordings. Plus 'Heartbreakin' Man'... and 'Nashville to Kentucky' ........ and 'I Will Be There When You Die' but that's it! At Dawn is ruined by 'I Needed It Most'
sooo CURRENTLY
ISM: 288.5
AD: 252.5
Z: 234
TTF: 164
C: 135
EU: 94
Evil Urges is so good why is it last!!?
AD: 9
TTF:7
ISM:7
Z:4
EU:2
C:1
Currently:
ISM: 295.5
AD: 261.5
Z: 238
TTF: 171
C: 136
EU: 96
Quote from: youreveningcoat on Jul 30, 2011, 04:32 AM
Tennessee Fire is saved by 'Evelyn' and the 'Ol' September Blues' from early recordings. Plus 'Heartbreakin' Man'... and 'Nashville to Kentucky' ........ and 'I Will Be There When You Die' but that's it! At Dawn is ruined by 'I Needed It Most'
So half of TTF saves the album, and 1 song ruins an album. Alright. ;D
Quote from: capt. scotty on Jul 30, 2011, 06:16 PM
Quote from: youreveningcoat on Jul 30, 2011, 04:32 AM
Tennessee Fire is saved by 'Evelyn' and the 'Ol' September Blues' from early recordings. Plus 'Heartbreakin' Man'... and 'Nashville to Kentucky' ........ and 'I Will Be There When You Die' but that's it! At Dawn is ruined by 'I Needed It Most'
So half of TTF saves the album, and 1 song ruins an album. Alright. ;D
:D I actually love all their songs but I had to make up for giving TTF the lowest mark.
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jul 30, 2011, 07:18 PM
Quote from: youreveningcoat on Jul 30, 2011, 04:32 AM
At Dawn is ruined by 'I Needed It Most'
not really
Except this one, I just can't bring myself to like it...
Quote from: youreveningcoat on Jul 30, 2011, 07:53 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jul 30, 2011, 07:18 PM
Quote from: youreveningcoat on Jul 30, 2011, 04:32 AM
At Dawn is ruined by 'I Needed It Most'
not really
Except this one, I just can't bring myself to like it...
Man, that's a shame. There have been times when that's been my favorite of the album. Especially around the 5:08 mark where the organ kicks in.
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jul 30, 2011, 10:15 PM
Quote from: youreveningcoat on Jul 30, 2011, 07:53 PM
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Jul 30, 2011, 07:18 PM
Quote from: youreveningcoat on Jul 30, 2011, 04:32 AM
At Dawn is ruined by 'I Needed It Most'
not really
Except this one, I just can't bring myself to like it...
Man, that's a shame. There have been times when that's been my favorite of the album. Especially around the 5:08 mark where the organ kicks in.
Sorry mate, I love every other song though!
AD 9
ISM 7
Z 6
TTF 6
EU 1.5
C 0.5
The Tennessee Fire: 4
At Dawn: 8
It Still Moves: 5
Z: 5
Evil Urges: 2
Circuital: 6
The Tennessee Fire: 2.0
At Dawn: 4.5
It Still Moves: 6.0
Z: 7.5
Evil Urges: 4.5
Circuital: 5.5
CURRENTLY
It Still Moves: 313.5
At Dawn: 283
Z: 256.5
Tennessee Fire: 183
Circuital: 148
Evil Urges: 104
AD-10
TTF-n/A
ISM-7
Z-10
EU-7
C-5
For me, AD and Z are f'n masterpieces. Start to finish they simply slay. ISM is really wonderful and it keeps getting better with each listen. I love EU, there is just some filler. I also really love some tracks on C....but, tracks like Outta my system and First Light...I Just can't get behind.
Z- 9
ISM- 7
AD- 6
C- 4
TTF- 3
EU- 1
The Tennessee Fire: 7
At Dawn: 4
It Still Moves: 3
Z: 6
Evil Urges: 4
Circuital: 6
Current Totals:
It Still Moves: 323.5
At Dawn: 293
Z: 271.5
Tennessee Fire: 193
Circuital: 158
Evil Urges: 109
uh oh - these totals don't make sense anymore. At Dawn was 283 and now it's 253? And ISM ...
;D who here is good at math or has time to re-do the addition?
oops! I miss typed the At Dawn totals there. Corrected that. Also, I only added up to the points for myself and ophidiophobia. TalkofCircles points go beyond the allotted 30 so I did not add them.
The Tennessee Fire: 6
At Dawn: 9
It Still Moves: 5
Z: 7
Evil Urges: 2
Circuital: 1
So pumped up to catch the guys twice this week, been way too long.
Edited to = 30.
glad i read the first post in this thread or i would have made the same mistake others have made. here's my ratings. guess i just can't pick a favorite out of at dawn, it still moves, z, and circuital.
ttf - 5
ad - 6
ism - 6
z - 6
eu - 1
c - 6
I'm still really undecided about Circuital. Its the only one I didn't fall in love with more or less instantly.
TTF - 4
AD - 4
ISM - 8-9
Z - 8-9
EU - 4
C - 1
Z - 9
ISM - 8
TF - 7
AD - 6
EU - 2
C - .5
At Dawn - 9
The Tennessee Fire - 6
Z - 6
Evil Urges - 5
It Still Moves - 3
Circuital - 1
Update:
It Still Moves: 354.5
At Dawn: 327
Z: 307.5
Tennessee Fire: 221
Circuital: 170.5
Evil Urges: 120
Z - 9
At Dawn - 8
It Still Moves- 8
The Tennessee Fire- 5
Circuital-2
Evil Urges- 1.5
Update:
It Still Moves: 362.5
At Dawn: 335
Z- 316.5
Tennessee Fire: 226
Circuital: 172.5
Evil Urges: 121.5
Quote from: butternut on Aug 17, 2011, 06:25 PM
Z - 9
At Dawn - 8
It Still Moves- 8
The Tennessee Fire- 5
Circuital-2
Evil Urges- 1.5
Update:
It Still Moves: 362.5
At Dawn: 335
Z- 316.5
Tennessee Fire: 226
Circuital: 172.5
Evil Urges: 121.5
Please read rules on 1st page. Cheers
Quote from: Ruckus on Aug 17, 2011, 06:51 PM
Quote from: butternut on Aug 17, 2011, 06:25 PM
Z - 9
At Dawn - 8
It Still Moves- 8
The Tennessee Fire- 5
Circuital-2
Evil Urges- 1.5
Update:
It Still Moves: 362.5
At Dawn: 335
Z- 316.5
Tennessee Fire: 226
Circuital: 172.5
Evil Urges: 121.5
Please read rules on 1st page. Cheers
Oops, got distracted by numbers. Redo:
Z: 8
At Dawn: 8
It Still Moves: 7
Tennessee Fire: 5
Circuital: 1
Evil Urges: 1