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Off-Topic => Other Music => Topic started by: exist10z on Nov 23, 2012, 08:45 PM

Title: Jazz!
Post by: exist10z on Nov 23, 2012, 08:45 PM
Jazz music, discuss... :rolleyes:

No really, I am a really big fan.  Probably 5-10% of my overall music listening time is jazz.  Almost always the 'classics', from what I would say was the heyday of jazz, maybe 1930-1960.  I find it amazing musically, obviously has an improvisational element, skilled musicians, and some great tunes - which can actually be 'catchy', once you have listened to enough jazz and become familiar with the songs.

Some favorites of mine (which anyone who knows jazz will think, uh duh):

Miles Davis and John Coltrane of course.
Sonny Rollins
Stan Getz
Charlie Parker
Chat Baker

So does anyone like or have any suggestions for me?
Title: Re: Jazz!
Post by: Jaimoe on Nov 23, 2012, 08:58 PM
Love jazz, well, hard bop and vocal jazz and don't mind occasional experimental. I lean towards guitarists since I've been fighting an uphill battle with my axes for over 25 years.

Some favs of mine are:

Django Reinhardt
Lenny Breau (check out this late great cult guitar master immediately); he's one of my all-time favourite musicians
John Coltrane
Dizzy Gillespie
McCoy Tyner
Charles Mingus
Oscar Peterson
Miles Davis, pre '80s
The Rat Pack
James Blood Ulmer
Bobby Darin
Wes Montgomery
Charlie Christian
The Dorsey Brothers
Title: Re: Jazz!
Post by: Tracy 2112 on Nov 23, 2012, 09:52 PM
Jazz listener for awhile now. Been digging currently Wynton Marsalis' 3 volume series Soul Gestures in Southern Blue from 1991.
Title: Re: Jazz!
Post by: Ruckus on Nov 24, 2012, 09:42 AM
Hey Jaimoe.  I'm surprised you don't list Kenny Burrell like Mr. White did.  I figured if you're a hard bop/post bop and guitar fan he'd find a place on your list.  I always found his playing to be so smooth, lyrical and soulful.

I don't listen to much jazz these days but Miles, Trane, and Mingus are easily my favorites.

There's another jazz thread in here somewhere where we briefly discussed Mingus.  I spun Ahh Umm a few months ago and it felt great to revisit the genius depth of the Mingus mind
Title: Re: Jazz!
Post by: exist10z on Nov 24, 2012, 09:46 AM
Thanks for all the suggestions, I've been meaning to expand my repertoire a bit and this gives me a place to start.  Some of the suggestions I am aware of and have been meaning to listen to, but others are completely new to me.
Title: Re: Jazz!
Post by: YimYodd on Nov 24, 2012, 11:11 AM
Yeah, Jazz is where it all starts.
Good comments from all posts above.
I like the early traditional stuff above all else.
  King Oliver
  Louis Armstrong
  Bix Biederbeck
  Hoagy Carmichael
  Sydney Bichet
  Dorsey Bros.
  Duke Ellington
  Dinah Washington
  Dizzy Gillespie
  Thelonious Monk
  Charlie Mingus
  Miles Davis
  Sun Ra
  Roland Kirk
  Dirty Dozen Brass Band
  PHJB
  Trombone Shorty
  Bonerama
  Kermit Ruffin

HBO Series  Treme highlights alot of   NewOrleans bands ( not all jazz) throughout the storylines.
Title: Re: Jazz!
Post by: Ruckus on Nov 24, 2012, 07:21 PM
Thanks to this thread I'm spinning Jazz at Massey Hall as I type.

That Burrell/Trane album is real good Mr. White.  I used to listen to that CD a lot a decade or so ago.  While the two's chemistry or lack thereof seems disjointed, the playing is still excellent (particularly Burrell's) and hearing the two trade solos on the same record is good enough for me. :beer:
Title: Re: Jazz!
Post by: Jaimoe on Nov 24, 2012, 07:26 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Nov 24, 2012, 09:42 AM
Hey Jaimoe.  I'm surprised you don't list Kenny Burrell like Mr. White did.  I figured if you're a hard bop/post bop and guitar fan he'd find a place on your list.  I always found his playing to be so smooth, lyrical and soulful.


Didn't think of him. I still haven't delved into his catalogue yet. I'll throw Joe Pass onto my list too. I used to love Al Di Meola when I was a young'un back in the early '80s, but I see him now as sooo fucking cheesy. Fast as fuck, but I can't listen to him anymore.
Title: Re: Jazz!
Post by: Ruckus on Nov 24, 2012, 07:33 PM
Quote from: Jaimoe on Nov 24, 2012, 07:26 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Nov 24, 2012, 09:42 AM
Hey Jaimoe.  I'm surprised you don't list Kenny Burrell like Mr. White did.  I figured if you're a hard bop/post bop and guitar fan he'd find a place on your list.  I always found his playing to be so smooth, lyrical and soulful.


Didn't think of him. I still haven't delved into his catalogue yet. I'll throw Joe Pass onto my list too. I used to love Al Di Meola when I was a young'un back in the early '80s, but I see him now as sooo fucking cheesy. Fast as fuck, but I can't listen to him anymore.
Hmmm, I wonder if you'll find his playing too clean and straight forward? 
I remember you recommending Lenny Breau to me a couple of years back.  I knew nothing of him then and still very little now other than what I youtubed then.  Is there an album that's a must?
Title: Re: Jazz!
Post by: Jaimoe on Nov 24, 2012, 07:47 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Nov 24, 2012, 07:33 PM
Quote from: Jaimoe on Nov 24, 2012, 07:26 PM
Quote from: Ruckus on Nov 24, 2012, 09:42 AM
Hey Jaimoe.  I'm surprised you don't list Kenny Burrell like Mr. White did.  I figured if you're a hard bop/post bop and guitar fan he'd find a place on your list.  I always found his playing to be so smooth, lyrical and soulful.


Didn't think of him. I still haven't delved into his catalogue yet. I'll throw Joe Pass onto my list too. I used to love Al Di Meola when I was a young'un back in the early '80s, but I see him now as sooo fucking cheesy. Fast as fuck, but I can't listen to him anymore.
Hmmm, I wonder if you'll find his playing too clean and straight forward? 
I remember you recommending Lenny Breau to me a couple of years back.  I knew nothing of him then and still very little now other than what I youtubed then.  Is there an album that's a must?

I like clean. I like dirty. I just hate slick clean and overproduced shit (see Diana Krall, Kenny G, some Pat Metheny etc...)

There's several great Lenny Breau albums, thanks in part to his friend and archivist, Randy Bachman, of BTO and The Guess Who fame. You wont' find much video of him, but there is still some cool stuff on YouTube. He used to host his own CBC show when he was quite young. He was a master even then - more of a country picker in his early days. He's seen as a tragic figure in jazz. Probably murdered, an addict, but had a heart of gold and a talent to match it. This link and check out their recommendations, and I think you could get Live at Bourbon Street without even hearing a single note. Breau is the only guitarist ever to make me giddy and tear-up in the same song.

http://www.allmusic.com/artist/lenny-breau-mn0000242969 (http://www.allmusic.com/artist/lenny-breau-mn0000242969)

AMG's Live at Bourbon Street review:

http://www.allmusic.com/album/live-at-bourbon-st-mw0000179768 (http://www.allmusic.com/album/live-at-bourbon-st-mw0000179768)
Title: Re: Jazz!
Post by: Ruckus on Dec 07, 2012, 09:31 AM
RIP Dave Brubeck.  While I only own two Brubeck LP's, I've probably spun Time Out as much as almost any other record in my jazz collection.

Also was thinking about checking out Ben Goldberg's Unfold Ordinary mind this Saturday. 

And for you NYers, Nels Cline is sitting in with MMW at the Blue Note next Wednesday.  I don't know if it's sold out but that sounds pretty bad ass!
Title: Re: Jazz!
Post by: YimYodd on Dec 16, 2012, 03:19 PM

I got turned on to Roland Kirk while checking out Buddy Guy



Buddy Guy, Jack Bruce, Roland Kirk, Jimmy Hope & Ron Burton Supershow Live, Uk 1969 Stormy Monday Blues (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW7mCDmP644#)



RAHSAAN ROLAND KIRK - Primitive Ohio (1969) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJf1IK_9d9o#)

Interesting dude, kinda out there but did alot of more traditional stuff too.
if ya don't dig this performance' look further.
Title: Re: Jazz!
Post by: YimYodd on Jan 16, 2013, 09:25 PM
Quote from: Mr. White on Jan 16, 2013, 03:12 PM
Quote from: exist10z on Nov 23, 2012, 08:45 PM
Jazz music, discuss... :rolleyes:

No really, I am a really big fan.  Probably 5-10% of my overall music listening time is jazz.  Almost always the 'classics', from what I would say was the heyday of jazz, maybe 1930-1960.  I find it amazing musically, obviously has an improvisational element, skilled musicians, and some great tunes - which can actually be 'catchy', once you have listened to enough jazz and become familiar with the songs.

Some favorites of mine (which anyone who knows jazz will think, uh duh):

Miles Davis and John Coltrane of course.
Sonny Rollins
Stan Getz
Charlie Parker
Chat Baker

So does anyone like or have any suggestions for me?

I just wanted to keep this thread going a bit more. It was started by Erik (exist10z), and I really enjoyed reading/listening/sharing our love of Jazz music.

This one is for you Erik.

Miles Davis - In A Silent Way [Full Album HD] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmQwzAsOw1k#ws)

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Jazz!
Post by: Jaimoe on Feb 22, 2014, 04:04 PM
One of my secret music shames is that when I first moved to Toronto in 1991 right up to his death in 2007, I kept passing, week after week, year after year, on seeing Oscar Peterson perform at a local jazz club in the downtown core. The jazz piano giant gigged almost every weekend at the Montreal Bistro, but I kept putting off seeing him. Yep, you are right to be disgusted with me.
Title: Re: Jazz!
Post by: beardedwonder on Apr 24, 2017, 10:49 PM
bump

Well it finally clicked. Bitches Brew got me all tuned up. Right when I wasn't paying attention. Now I'm seeking that good stuff. I like it spacey, deep and dirty. 70s stuff mostly.

Can't get enough of Miles:
Bitches Brew
Live Evil
On the Corner
In a Silent Way
Big Fun

Others:
Herbie Hancock, Jaco Pastorious, Wes Montgomery, Sun Ra, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Pharoah Sanders, Weather Report, many more

Prof rock/Jazz: CAN, Soft Machine

More current:
Medeschi, Martin & Wood, Kamasi Washington, John Schoefield, Snarky Puppy
Title: Re: Jazz!
Post by: Crispy on Apr 25, 2017, 08:55 AM
Nice, bw! I've been listening to the Real Jazz station on Sirius XM a ton lately, and I also dig that funky deep 70s spacy shit you mentioned. Also Chick Corea and Return to Forever! Every Sunday I'm listening to the fusion show and then Marcus Miller and Miller Time -- totally worth checking out if you've got the satellite business.
Title: Re: Jazz!
Post by: beardedwonder on Apr 25, 2017, 09:19 AM
Quote from: Crispy on Apr 25, 2017, 08:55 AM
Nice, bw! I've been listening to the Real Jazz station on Sirius XM a ton lately, and I also dig that funky deep 70s spacy shit you mentioned. Also Chick Corea and Return to Forever! Every Sunday I'm listening to the fusion show and then Marcus Miller and Miller Time -- totally worth checking out if you've got the satellite business.

Oh nice. Yes I do. Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Jazz!
Post by: Shug on Apr 27, 2017, 11:52 AM
Quote from: beardedwonder on Apr 24, 2017, 10:49 PM
bump

Well it finally clicked. Bitches Brew got me all tuned up. Right when I wasn't paying attention. Now I'm seeking that good stuff. I like it spacey, deep and dirty. 70s stuff mostly.

Can't get enough of Miles:
Bitches Brew
Live Evil
On the Corner
In a Silent Way
Big Fun

Others:
Herbie Hancock, Jaco Pastorious, Wes Montgomery, Sun Ra, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Pharoah Sanders, Weather Report, many more

Prof rock/Jazz: CAN, Soft Machine

More current:
Medeschi, Martin & Wood, Kamasi Washington, John Schoefield, Snarky Puppy


Try Sonny Sharrock, avant jazz guitarist.  I like this album Ask The Ages even though its from the 90s.  Its got Pharoah Sanders and Elvin Jones on it, too, so Coltrane inspired, for sure.

Title: Re: Jazz!
Post by: Shug on Apr 27, 2017, 12:09 PM
Looking up some Sonny Sharrock stuff, I stumbled upon this Space Ghost Coast to Coast weirdness cartoon that I had never heard off before, but I'm sure you more culture-saavy dudes are well aware.

Try this one late at night baked like a Frito.

Title: Re: Jazz!
Post by: easy way on Apr 27, 2017, 12:33 PM
Quote from: Shug on Apr 27, 2017, 12:09 PM
Looking up some Sonny Sharrock stuff, I stumbled upon this Space Ghost Coast to Coast weirdness cartoon that I had never heard off before, but I'm sure you more culture-saavy dudes are well aware.

Try this one late at night baked like a Frito.



Shug! Glad you stumbled upon SGCtC... a defining show of my college years. And yes, it was almost always consumed late night.
Title: Re: Jazz!
Post by: easy way on Apr 27, 2017, 12:52 PM



^Jacob Fred Jazz Odyssey - 'Betamax'




Some more JFJO right here... below is a bit about this particular project:

"For its 21st album, Jacob Fred Jazz Odyssey reaches into the dark annals of its hometown's history and emerges with a masterwork: The Race Riot Suite. Written, arranged and orchestrated by Chris Combs, the album is a long-form conceptual piece that tells the devastating story of the 1921 Tulsa race riot-- a real estate-driven ethnocide occurring under the guise of citizen-dispensed justice. The oil-elite, civic government and local press colluded to take advantage of a racially tense climate in Jim Crow-era Oklahoma, resulting in the death of hundreds of black Tulsans and the destruction of an entire city district."