I wasn't sure whether to put this in 'Other Music' or 'Off Topic Ramblings', so here it is.
I thought of this when considering the discussion in the 'What is your Sgt. Peppers?' thread. The argument concerning the seriousness or lack-there-of, of certain bands, as relating to their importance. There is definitely, it seems to me, a way of approaching that question that suggests something has to be serious/involved/long/deep, to be important or good or the best. I think I made the case, clumsily maybe, that it's really a matter of perspective and preference. I don't think something has to be a suite, or concept, or even particularly deep, to be moving or significant musically (which is odd, as that is generally what I favor philosophically). So, I started thinking about how this relates to literature.
So, this is just off the top of my head, and I haven't read (or heard) everything obviously, and maybe you have better comparisons. I didn't have any real criteria when making the comparisons, these just seemed natural.
F. Scott Fitzgerald = The Beatles
Hemingway = Led Zeppelin
Mark Twain = The Rolling Stones
George Orwell = The Who
Leo Tolstoy = Pink Floyd
Dostoyevsky = Rush
Kurt Vonnegut = Bob Dylan
Aldous Huxley = Jethro Tull
Franz Kafka = Yes
John Steinbeck = The Allman Brothers
Of course Ken Kesey = The Grateful Dead (or maybe it's Hunter S. Thompson?)
Anyway, haven't even gotten to more modern comparisons yet...
Rush, to me, is more like H.G. Wells
Edgar Allan Poe as Floyd perhaps? Both continually refer to sanity and the lack thereof and focus on beautifully melancholic themes.
Black Sabbath = H.P. Lovecraft
Obviously there's no right or wrong, and I like the Rush = Wells. It's funny, I was thinking of your argument from the other thread when I equated Floyd to Tolstoy, long, epic, deep, substantial, as a measure of importance.
Poe is a bit too short and snappy to be Floyd, at least for me.
I might equate Poe to The Clash, or maybe even more The Smiths. Concise, witty but serious, kinda heavy topically.
Like the Sabbath too.
I'd go with:
JRR Tolkien=Zeppelin
George Orwell=Floyd
Bill Shakespeare=Dylan
Aldous Huxley=The Doors
Ken Kesey=The Dead
Zora Neale Hurston=Badu
Maya Angelou=Lauryn Hill
Hunter S. Thompson=Rolling Stones
The Bible=Bob Marley
F. Scott Fitzgerald=Woody Guthrie
Hemingway=Neil Young
Gabriel Garcia Marquez=Santana
Paulo Coehlo=Paul Simon
James Baldwin=Miles Davis
That's all I got so far.
Charles Bukowski= Tom Waits
Mark Twain= The Band
Quote from: MamaKel on Dec 02, 2012, 03:10 PM
I'd go with:
JRR Tolkien=Zeppelin
George Orwell=Floyd
Bill Shakespeare=Dylan
Aldous Huxley=The Doors
Ken Kesey=The Dead
Zora Neale Hurston=Badu
Maya Angelou=Lauryn Hill
Hunter S. Thompson=Rolling Stones
The Bible=Bob Marley
F. Scott Fitzgerald=Woody Guthrie
Hemingway=Neil Young
Gabriel Garcia Marquez=Santana
Paulo Coehlo=Paul Simon
James Baldwin=Miles Davis
That's all I got so far.
Some good ones there, some obvious connections, and a few I like better than mine after consideration. Shakespeare/Dylan of course, and I like the ZNH/Badu, that seems like a natural. I need to think of some more modern/current musical connections.
Quote from: Tracy 2112 on Dec 02, 2012, 03:15 PM
Charles Bukowski= Tom Waits
Mark Twain= The Band
Yep...
Big fan of the Tom Waits and Band choices...
I'm going to go ahead and say it.
Dave Eggers=MMJ
For me, at least. From his heartbreaking humor amidst tragedy to his personal philosophies about the practice of philanthropy...It just seems to fit to me.
If I could be a fly on the wall while Dave and Jim had a conversation, I might pee in my tiny fly pants.
Wendell Berry= MMJ
2 reasons, the Kentucky connection and something I like to think of as practical metaphysicality
Quote from: exist10z on Dec 02, 2012, 12:49 PM
Obviously there's no right or wrong, and I like the Rush = Wells. It's funny, I was thinking of your argument from the other thread when I equated Floyd to Tolstoy, long, epic, deep, substantial, as a measure of importance.
Poe is a bit too short and snappy to be Floyd, at least for me.
I might equate Poe to The Clash, or maybe even more The Smiths. Concise, witty but serious, kinda heavy topically.
Like the Sabbath too.
I'm not familiar with Tolstoy's work. I didn't look at it based on length, although that is interesting. I was looking more closely at that melancholic beauty that Poe captures so well throughout his work.
Edgar Allen Poe= Andrew Bird
Dr. Seuss = Daniel Johnston/Nirvana/The Beatles
Tolken = The Rush
Wallace Stevens = Sonic Youth/Nirvana/The Flaming Lips
Robert Frost = Bon Iver/Iron and Wine
James Joyce =Pink Floyd
J.D. Sallinger = Metallica/The Beatles/The Pixies
Stephen Hawking/Robert Frost = Andrew Bird
Chaucer = The Mars Volta? :grin:
Bob Dylan = Shakespear with a guitar
The Bible = Nickleback/The Grateful Dead
Eddie Vedder = Jesus with a ukulele
Jim James = GOD with a Full Band!!!
Cool thread. :cool:
William Faulkner = Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds
Haruki Murakami = The Cure
Kurt Vonnegut = Frank Zappa
Philip K. Dick = Talking Heads
George Orwell = Elvis Costello
At least the folk side of Neil Young is more Canadiana, so homegrown heroes Stephen Leacock, Robertson Davies or W.O. Mitchell would fit. Farley Mowat sometimes fits too.
Quote from: bbill on Dec 03, 2012, 01:01 PM
Cool thread. :cool:
William Faulkner = Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds
Haruki Murakami = The Cure
Kurt Vonnegut = Frank Zappa
Philip K. Dick = Talking Heads
George Orwell = Elvis Costello
:cool:
So, reading over this thread I have come to the conclusion that I really need to read Kurt Vonnegut. What should I start with?
Quote from: sweatboard on Dec 03, 2012, 11:37 PM
So, reading over this thread I have come to the conclusion that I really need to read Kurt Vonnegut. What should I start with?
Cat's Cradle
Slaughterhouse V is a good one from Vonnegut, but I can personally say I didn't necessarily enjoy it while I was reading it. However, after I finished the book and thought about it a bit more, I realized there was a whole lot of symbolism that I found extremely fascinating. Slaughterhouse V has become one of my favorite pieces of literature to analyze and really dig into with meh mind.
Thanks!! I think I'll start with "The Cats Cradle" because I really like cats....and I'm afraid of slaughter houses. :tongue:
Quote from: sweatboard on Dec 03, 2012, 11:58 PM
Thanks!! I think I'll start with "The Cats Cradle" because I really like cats....and I'm afraid of slaughter houses. :tongue:
If you can't find Cat's Cradle easily, you might also try The Sirens of Titan, Player Piano, or Breakfast of Champions. Those are great also, but Cat's Cradle is probably my favorite. Slaughterhouse 5 is a classic, but not actually one of my favorites (and just for comparison, that's like a Jacket fan saying that ISM isn't a favorite). He's probably my favorite author, not necessarily the 'best', but my favorite.
Vonnegut Quotes:
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly, man got to sit and wonder why, why, why.
Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land, man got to tell himself he understand.
- Cat's Cradle
There's only one rule that I know of, babies—God damn it, you've got to be kind.
- God Bless You, Mr. Rosewater
Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.
- Timequake
Thank you....it has become obvious what I need to investigate....
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly, man got to sit and wonder why, why, why.
Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land, man got to tell himself he understand.
- Cat's Cradle
It pours off the page like it was written in my soul.
Sweat board, you are a Bokononist at heart. Choose wisely who you put your feet on.
BoC has my favorite page in it. It has a drawing of a dot with some squiggly lines on it. Then it says (sic) This is a drawing of an asshole. Or something very similar. It came at the perfect moment in the book when a non sequitur was needed. God Bless You Mr Rosewater was also a good book, bit Cat's Cradle is his best even though Slaughter 5 gets the most praise and accolades.
Who is Ayn Rand? Just curious...don't say Rush...
Tom Robbins: Fruit Bats
Quote from: Penny Lane on Dec 04, 2012, 10:07 AM
Who is Ayn Rand? Just curious...don't say Rush...
RUSH Tribute Band AYN RAND
http://www.youtube.com/user/madmarkz (http://www.youtube.com/user/madmarkz)
Who is Ayn Rand? A dispicably hypocritical human being and simplistically obtuse psuedo 'philosopher', who makes me ashamed to be an atheist.
Not that I have strong feelings about her... :evil:
I'm pretty jealous I didn't think of Tom Robbins and Fruit Bats. Good call, fine friend. I humbly bow.
Ann Coulter = Nickelback
Ann Coulter=Nickelback was the funniest thing I've read in a while.
Who's Ted Nugent?
Strangely enough, I was actually talking to an 88 year old woman about Ted Nugent today. After describing him, she agreed that he's a total jerkoff, and said she believes men like that should be born with one less testicle. So I explained to her that I refer to someone who is acting like an out-of-control asshole as 'a huge Nuge'.
So...Rush Limbaugh=Ted Nugent?
Jim and the MOF boys refer to The Nuge...
Monsters of Folk - MTV Supergroup Interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpUgFjBc96k#)
thank you.....that was a comprehensvie overview.
Quote from: sweatboard on Dec 03, 2012, 11:37 PM
So, reading over this thread I have come to the conclusion that I really need to read Kurt Vonnegut. What should I start with?
Breakfast of Champions is my favorite. Vonnegut is probably my favorite author.
http://youtu.be/uXK4STfxybU (http://youtu.be/uXK4STfxybU)
I dont mind stealing bread from the mouths of decadence....but I can't feed on the powerless when my cups already overfilled.....
http://youtu.be/TLaPAPZoz94 (http://youtu.be/TLaPAPZoz94)