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Title: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: EverythingChanges on Feb 04, 2014, 03:56 PM
I really like the jamming portion of Jacket's live shows, and thus I have been craving a good live album in the jamming world.  I have never really listened to legitimate jam bands before, mainly because I feel like their music sounds very cheesy sometimes.  Part of the cheese factor comes from goofy lyrics, part of it comes from the jams.  With that being said, what is a good jam band that minimizes the cheese factor?  I've been looking into Tea Leaf Green, Umphrey's, and Phish.  From what I have listened to, Tea Leaf Green sounds more on par with what I am searching for, but I am not quite sure.  Hopefully one of you could shed some light into my predicament. 

I am avoiding The Dead, because I'd like to start with a band that I have a chance at seeing live.

Thanks for any input!
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: EverythingChanges on Feb 04, 2014, 04:23 PM
Maybe I'm looking at jam bands, when I should be looking at bands who jam occasionally.  Jacket hits that itch, but nothing else quite can.
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: walterfredo on Feb 04, 2014, 04:41 PM
as someone who's been seeing phish for almost 20 years now...I'll say go see them live and you'll be blown away.  They're on a different level than most other bands that fall into the 'jam-band' category.  I also absolutely love me some widespread panic.  Definitely not for everyone, and people either really love or really hate JBs voice (ala someone like Tom Waits).  I love the southern sound and they have great energy live.  Highly recommend.

I'm not too big on Teal Leaf Green Or Umphreys.  UM are a group of talented musicians that can really play, but it's just not my style.  I think their voices are awful and they tend to be very heavy on the prog-rock sound and spend half of their shows going up and down the scales at insane speeds.  Very talented, just not my thing.  And Tea Leaf Green just bores me to tears. 
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: EverythingChanges on Feb 04, 2014, 05:06 PM
Where should I start with Phish, if that's what I decide to go with?
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: wolof7 on Feb 04, 2014, 09:28 PM
I'm with Walterfredo, WSP is still one of my favorite bands many yrs after I dropped off the jam scene. The good thing about WSP is that I believe their studio albums actually hold up while others in that scene make dreadfully cheestasic albums. They definitely have the Southern rock thing going.

Here is a show from Red Rocks after they inherited Jimmy Herring who does not equal their original guitarist Mickey Houser but prob the best get they could have hoped for. 2nd set is very cover friendly.

Widespread Panic - 2011/6/26 Red Rocks (complete show) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-cNyiXtULs#ws)

Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: EverythingChanges on Feb 04, 2014, 11:01 PM
Thanks for the info!

I'll take a loot at Widespread Panic.  I want to like Phish, but their jams seem "noodley".

I am searching for a band that plays a lot of songs that are "blue", "purple", or "pink" in color if that makes any sense.  I keep looking towards jam bands or post rock bands as the answer, but I always come up empty handed.  Post rock comes close to the sound I am looking for, but it lacks the vocals that I am searching for.  Jam bands come close as well, but their lyrics seem silly, or their jams seem too "noodly".  I like waves of guitar, or interesting keyboard pieces.  I am trying to stray from the southern rock sound, as it is more gold, orange, and red in color.

Hope I'm making sense!

Maybe the answer is My Morning Jacket's new album, but I sure would love a fix before then.
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: YimYodd on Feb 05, 2014, 12:22 AM
EC,

  :thumbsup: to above WSP posts ,  great LIVE vibe.
Saw them May3 in Nville after  being on the rail for Jim's Cannery show the nite before.
Gonna see them in March @ the Ryman. :beer:

Few of my favs- Coconut, maybe cheesy but funky & fun.
                      - Thin Air ( smells like Mississippi), ...funky - as much So. Cali as So. rock
                      - Me & the Devil :evil: , R Johnson cover.

Lots to choose from over many years.

You need to go to Hendrix for all colors. :grin:
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: walterfredo on Feb 05, 2014, 12:45 PM
Quote from: EverythingChanges on Feb 04, 2014, 05:06 PM
Where should I start with Phish, if that's what I decide to go with?

honestly I think seeing them live is where you start.  Their studio albums have never impressed me.  If you want to hear some stuff though get some live stuff.  Any of the official live releases, but I think Slip Stitch and Pass (live tracks from a 1997 European tour) is a great place to start.  Would also highly recommend the 1997 NYE run, which as been released officially as well, look for 12-29-97 and 12-30-97. 

For Panic, I agree that their studio albums are generally great, I'd recommend 'Til the Medicine Takes, Don't Tell The Band, Bombs and Butterflies or Aint Life Grand.  For some official live releases check out Live in the Classic City, Another Joyous Occasion, or Light Fuse Get Away (the latter I would recommend the most).
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: EverythingChanges on Feb 05, 2014, 08:18 PM
My campus had a snow day today, so I have spent a good portion of it searching for new music to scratch this itch of mine.  Widespread Panic sounds more appealing than Phish, but it isn't quite what I'm looking for.  I have also stumbled upon Yo La Tengo, but they are a little too quiet for what I want right now.  I am listening to Umphrey's Mcgee Live at the Murat on Spotify right now, and it is closer to what I want.  It might take a few listens before I know for sure though.  It just doesn't seem quite right.  I want something with the groove of Phone Went West live or something.  Oh Jacket what have you done to me!
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: iLikeBeer on Feb 06, 2014, 10:23 AM
How about Tedeschi Trucks Band.  I never tire of hearing Derek Trucks whaling on his huitar...  :beer:
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: BigHerm on Feb 06, 2014, 12:21 PM
Quote from: YimYodd on Feb 05, 2014, 12:22 AM
EC,

  :thumbsup: to above WSP posts ,  great LIVE vibe.
Saw them May3 in Nville after  being on the rail for Jim's Cannery show the nite before.
Gonna see them in March @ the Ryman. :beer:

Few of my favs- Coconut, maybe cheesy but funky & fun.
                      - Thin Air ( smells like Mississippi), ...funky - as much So. Cali as So. rock
                      - Me & the Devil :evil: , R Johnson cover.

Lots to choose from over many years.

You need to go to Hendrix for all colors. :grin:
:beer:
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: ManNamedTruth on Feb 06, 2014, 12:58 PM
Quote from: iLikeBeer on Feb 06, 2014, 10:23 AM
How about Tedeschi Trucks Band.  I never tire of hearing Derek Trucks whaling on his huitar...  :beer:

This. Probably my second favorite live band right now after MMJ.
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: MOWJO8185 on Feb 07, 2014, 01:57 PM
To the OP, it sounds like you have very similar tastes to me, which means you will probably always have a love/hate relationship with true jam bands. The type of band you like the most isn't jam bands, but more progressive rock, distorted guitars, etc., but those bands don't have a plethora of live material available, so you don't really get the "jamming" aspect of those types of bands, with MMJ being a key exception.

Phish is a band that I have grown to like, but like you, there are sometimes that I find them either cheesy, or that their jams just sort of drift into noodling. I think songs that have heavy, layered guitar parts, and maintain more of a traditional song structure would include Free, Fast Enough for You, Character Zero, and Prince Caspian, which, based on that criteria, would probably make Billy Breathes your best starting point from a studio standpoint, or any live show that contains those songs if you want longer jams. But expect to think some is mind-blowing and some rather annoying.

I would say Umphrey's Mcgee is more along your lines musically, they are more likely to feature "waves of guitar", but their voices/lyrics are typically pretty painful, and it doesn't feel as much like songs as compositions.  The first album I ever listened to was Mantis, and I thought it was a good starting point for me, but when I listen to their live albums, I found myself split between my jaw dropped in awe and getting kind of bored.

I think MMJ fills a unique place in the industry in that they jam in a more progressive style, and yet really pride themselves as songwriters. I think a lot of the others you find will either have lyrics/voices that you have trouble connecting with, or else will be in more of the Southern Rock/Americana vibe that you are hoping to avoid.

Bands I've liked (although they aren't jammy and don't have a ton of live recordings available) include Portugal.the man, White Denim, Blitzen Trapper, and Dr. Dog.  I would also recommend Spotifying Wilco's live album Kicking Television, some of the songs there might fit what you are looking for. Handshake Drugs is my favorite song and I think that live version might be a taste of what you are into.
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: EverythingChanges on Feb 07, 2014, 03:01 PM
Quote from: MOWJO8185 on Feb 07, 2014, 01:57 PM
To the OP, it sounds like you have very similar tastes to me, which means you will probably always have a love/hate relationship with true jam bands. The type of band you like the most isn't jam bands, but more progressive rock, distorted guitars, etc., but those bands don't have a plethora of live material available, so you don't really get the "jamming" aspect of those types of bands, with MMJ being a key exception.

Phish is a band that I have grown to like, but like you, there are sometimes that I find them either cheesy, or that their jams just sort of drift into noodling. I think songs that have heavy, layered guitar parts, and maintain more of a traditional song structure would include Free, Fast Enough for You, Character Zero, and Prince Caspian, which, based on that criteria, would probably make Billy Breathes your best starting point from a studio standpoint, or any live show that contains those songs if you want longer jams. But expect to think some is mind-blowing and some rather annoying.

I would say Umphrey's Mcgee is more along your lines musically, they are more likely to feature "waves of guitar", but their voices/lyrics are typically pretty painful, and it doesn't feel as much like songs as compositions.  The first album I ever listened to was Mantis, and I thought it was a good starting point for me, but when I listen to their live albums, I found myself split between my jaw dropped in awe and getting kind of bored.

I think MMJ fills a unique place in the industry in that they jam in a more progressive style, and yet really pride themselves as songwriters. I think a lot of the others you find will either have lyrics/voices that you have trouble connecting with, or else will be in more of the Southern Rock/Americana vibe that you are hoping to avoid.

Bands I've liked (although they aren't jammy and don't have a ton of live recordings available) include Portugal.the man, White Denim, Blitzen Trapper, and Dr. Dog.  I would also recommend Spotifying Wilco's live album Kicking Television, some of the songs there might fit what you are looking for. Handshake Drugs is my favorite song and I think that live version might be a taste of what you are into.

I think you get it! The bands you named at the end are bands that I listen to on a weekly basis.  Wilco is my second favorite band next to jacket, and kicking television is the closest thing to Okonokos another band has put out IMO. 

I've been on spotify listening to all of the suggestions on this thread. Although some of them are too southern rockish for what I want right now.

I'll check out those songs from phish you've discussed. I've been listening to umphreys live work, and I agree. Some of it is awesome, and some of it is awful.
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: Jaimoe on Feb 07, 2014, 11:54 PM
Quote from: EverythingChanges on Feb 04, 2014, 04:23 PM
Maybe I'm looking at jam bands, when I should be looking at bands who jam occasionally.  Jacket hits that itch, but nothing else quite can.

Adhere to your own advice. I loved jam bands through the late 80s all the way to the early 2000s.  Not anymore. Phish aren't relevant, WSP are great players, but their songs are numbingly boring and don't get me started with second-tier bands such as moe., Umphrey's, and Galactic. Hey, the Dead and Allmans (up to the late 90s) will always rule because they could write great songs and play, but they are done. Time to move on. The jam scene is on life support, but this is a good thing since rock, folk etc. has never been stronger than it is now thanks to great bands that write great music and can jam when inspired to do so.
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: he.who.forgets on Feb 08, 2014, 09:14 AM
Quote from: ManNamedTruth on Feb 06, 2014, 12:58 PM
Quote from: iLikeBeer on Feb 06, 2014, 10:23 AM
How about Tedeschi Trucks Band.  I never tire of hearing Derek Trucks whaling on his huitar...  :beer:

This. Probably my second favorite live band right now after MMJ.
I'll throw my hat in on this recommendation
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: KnowTilNow on Feb 08, 2014, 10:27 PM
have you listened to jonathan Wilson?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9FmoYZBIwc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9FmoYZBIwc)
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: davymac on Feb 09, 2014, 01:19 PM
I second WSMFP!  That is my favorite in the jam scene.  You should checkout their wood album, it is all acoustic and has some good covers in there. I also dig String Cheese, too.   :drum:
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: Colfax on Feb 09, 2014, 04:19 PM
Quote from: EverythingChanges on Feb 04, 2014, 05:06 PM
Where should I start with Phish, if that's what I decide to go with?

Get their album "A LIVE ONE"

But really, you'll never truly understand them until you're on a head full of L and witnessing it firsthand.

Nothing compares to a Phish show. Nothing.
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: Shug on Feb 10, 2014, 10:36 AM
Try Built To Spill.  NOT a jam band, but an indie rock band that sometimes jams with a psychedelic sensibility.  They are probably more purple and blue than red and orange, I think!  :rolleyes:    Lots of guitars.  Matthew and Amy Jones can certainly recommend some specific stuff better than I can, but they do have a good live album from 2000 and they still tour a lot. 

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/1013-live/ (http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/1013-live/)

Built to Spill Live at Union Transfer (full complete show in HD) - Philadephia, PA - 11/2/2013 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTm6Yp-AVt4#ws)

Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: MOWJO8185 on Feb 10, 2014, 11:16 AM
Quote from: Shug on Feb 10, 2014, 10:36 AM
Try Built To Spill.  NOT a jam band, but an indie rock band that sometimes jams with a psychedelic sensibility.  They are probably more purple and blue than red and orange, I think!  :rolleyes:    Lots of guitars.  Matthew and Amy Jones can certainly recommend some specific stuff better than I can, but they do have a good live album from 2000 and they still tour a lot. 

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/1013-live/ (http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/1013-live/)

Built to Spill Live at Union Transfer (full complete show in HD) - Philadephia, PA - 11/2/2013 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTm6Yp-AVt4#ws)

I just came in here to recommend their live album. Well done, sir, well done.
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: EverythingChanges on Feb 10, 2014, 12:44 PM
Quote from: MOWJO8185 on Feb 10, 2014, 11:16 AM
Quote from: Shug on Feb 10, 2014, 10:36 AM
Try Built To Spill.  NOT a jam band, but an indie rock band that sometimes jams with a psychedelic sensibility.  They are probably more purple and blue than red and orange, I think!  :rolleyes:    Lots of guitars.  Matthew and Amy Jones can certainly recommend some specific stuff better than I can, but they do have a good live album from 2000 and they still tour a lot. 

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/1013-live/ (http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/1013-live/)

Built to Spill Live at Union Transfer (full complete show in HD) - Philadephia, PA - 11/2/2013 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTm6Yp-AVt4#ws)

I just came in here to recommend their live album. Well done, sir, well done.

Yep, this is what I want!  The Cortez cover is amazing!  Tracy tried showing these guys to me before, but I didn't latch on then.  Glad I am now.

Thanks everyone for the suggestions, I appreciate all of the help.  :thumbsup:

Now to find this sucker on vinyl.
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: LBSUNFLWR on Feb 10, 2014, 03:14 PM
my vote would also be for Widespread Panic, of the bands mentioned. Lots of Soundboards out there you can find.
I really don't know what you categorize as a "jamband" bc to me WSP is a rock band just as much as The Black Crowes are a rock band. They both have amazing guitars, and very extended solos, and do some incredible covers.  I'd go for either of those 2.

I have seen Tea Leaf Green many times and they are very fun live. Don't really listen to them on album ever, but if you can find a soundboard or they're coming your way I would definitely check them out live!

but if you aren't already familiar with the Grateful Dead then you shouldn't be avoiding them!! That's what you should seek out. The Winterland 77 Boxset is some of my favorite stuff. The Dicks Picks series is pretty fantastic. There's enough live material out there and it shouldn't matter that you won't get the chance to see them play. Go on archive.org and start listening to GD soundboards.  :thumbsup:

and as for current and upcoming stuff, the Chris Robinson Brotherhood is jammy and delicious. New tour dates just announced for this Spring with many more to come...
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: iLikeBeer on Feb 12, 2014, 12:50 PM
Quote from: LBSUNFLWR on Feb 10, 2014, 03:14 PM

and as for current and upcoming stuff, the Chris Robinson Brotherhood is jammy and delicious. New tour dates just announced for this Spring with many more to come...

Thanks for the heads up on CRB tour dates!  :beer:  I'm hoping they add some midwest dates over the summer!  I missed them the last time they rolled thru my neck of the woods and I'm not going to make that mistake again...
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: geekfreak on Nov 24, 2014, 02:45 PM
wow where to start. Gov`t Mule CRB The Black Crowes Phish ABB Ben Haper moe or widespread panic these are all well worth checking out... :drum:
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: e_wind on Nov 25, 2014, 07:15 PM
I'm not that into Jam bands, but you could try to original jam band...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcX8es_P2bo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcX8es_P2bo)

That is my favorite GD/Jerry song, hands down. Also, some of GD's studio albums are perfect, making the transition into GD easier.


Also, despite having the worst name ever, String Cheese Incident is my favorite current jam band. They've played some of the best shows I've ever seen. WSP is pretty good, too. Both SCI and WSP seem to be bands that non-jam fans get int. WSP more so, probably.

UM is my least favorite. Their show is a giant panic attack.
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: ffghtrs on Nov 26, 2014, 10:52 AM
There are a lot of great suggestions here.  Grateful Dead.  Jonathan Wilson is great.  and Tedeschi Trucks BAND! HOLY FUCKING SHIT.  ook ok ok ok....so go buy Everybody's Talkin' by Tedeschi Trucks Band.  And check out the live version of Midnight in Harlem.  That is a funky, soulful fucking jam. I saw them this past summer, BLEW MY FUCKING MIND OUT OF MY FUCKING HEAD.  so true. and and nadnand MMJ FOR THE RETURN IN 2015!


P.S.  i was thinking that as long as i get to see some Wilco and MMJ in the next year i'll be happy with my concert going experiences through the local attractions in Seattle.  But the problem i have in Seattle is i really only enjoy the Punk bands here.  I like the folky rock stuff like head and the heart but seriously Success! a band in Seattle blow my mind every time i see them.  and Honey Badger Seattle and Western Settings.  Some great musicians getting some angst out but in a very stylish way.  Also the Jam Band Flowmotion is pretty good but i kind of can't stand Jam Band other than the Dead, String Cheese Incident (at times) and Phish (when they aren't on too many drugs).  any who i'm off to write a literature review for class. LOVE YOU ALL! 
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: MMPJ6306 on Nov 26, 2014, 10:17 PM
Quote from: EverythingChanges on Feb 04, 2014, 04:23 PM
Maybe I'm looking at jam bands, when I should be looking at bands who jam occasionally. 
"I have also stumbled upon Yo La Tengo, but they are... too quiet for what I want."

YLT wouldn't have been my first thought but if you love Built To Spill I'd recommend taking another look. they do share a lot with traditional jam bands- they tour relentlessly, they have a HUGE cover repertoire (like way bigger than MMJ or any band I listen to), and they do one or two 'epic guitar freak outs' every show- but its more Velvet Underground or Crazy Horse than the Dead or Phish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HPW3jLZUaQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HPW3jLZUaQ)
and check out their other songs "Blue Line Swinger" "Pass the Hatchet, I Think I'm Goodkind" "Stupid Things" and "The Story of Yo La Tango"



or also maybe check out Pearl Jam live? they "jam occasionally."
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: ffghtrs on Nov 27, 2014, 02:45 AM
OH Yo La Tengo.  I love you.
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: ruralt on Jun 16, 2015, 11:29 PM
Kind of an old thread so I apologize if this place has a thing about bumping older threads.

I have a very hard time with jam bands too. I like the Dead but they're in another realm all together to me. Umphrey's is sort of cool but their vocalist is a deal breaker for me.

Been combing the interwebz tonight giving this scene another shot and came across this band called Tauk and they are pretty damn awesome, imo. They're instrumental  - not a drawback to me but might be for others. I dunno how to describe their music - jammy, jazzy, fusion prog rock, I guess.

Don't know what they sound like live but their two studio records are sounding good so that is a good sign, as most bands in this scene I've come across tend to have below average studio offerings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVLbfqt3-0g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVLbfqt3-0g)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sl33NP3pEc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sl33NP3pEc)
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: ffghtrs on Jun 17, 2015, 12:44 AM
i vote for Widespread panic



and TEDESCHI TRUCKS BAND  EVERYBODY's TALKIN'
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: parkervb on Jun 17, 2015, 12:31 PM
Quote from: ruralt on Jun 16, 2015, 11:29 PM
Kind of an old thread so I apologize if this place has a thing about bumping older threads.

I have a very hard time with jam bands too. I like the Dead but they're in another realm all together to me. Umphrey's is sort of cool but their vocalist is a deal breaker for me.

Been combing the interwebz tonight giving this scene another shot and came across this band called Tauk and they are pretty damn awesome, imo. They're instrumental  - not a drawback to me but might be for others. I dunno how to describe their music - jammy, jazzy, fusion prog rock, I guess.

Don't know what they sound like live but their two studio records are sounding good so that is a good sign, as most bands in this scene I've come across tend to have below average studio offerings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVLbfqt3-0g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVLbfqt3-0g)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sl33NP3pEc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sl33NP3pEc)

I've seen Tauk twice now and these dudes kill. Their drummer is HIGH ENERGY.
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: SixProudWalkers on Jun 17, 2015, 01:06 PM
90% of shows I see are jammy so I'll try to help here. First off go listen to the Dead, they built the foundation over which other jam bands play.

If MMJ is what stands between the Indie and jammy scenes, Perpetual Groove falls somewhere between MMJ and the jammy scene. They were on hiatus but they're actually touring again a bit, hopefully they'll be back in full swing. This would be my number 1 jam band recommendation to a MMJ fan I think
Check this P groove song out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZHE9I8GmEQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZHE9I8GmEQ)

Other bands...
Umphrey's is shit IMO, they're skilled musicians but their lyrics suck and frankly they just play too metally for me. I've also tripped too many times at their shows for whatever reason, and they're not really a band to see on acid.

String Cheese Incident is great, some meh lyrics/songs but overall great. If you can dig the bluegrass aspect Railroad Earth has some great newgrass/Americana.

Tedeschi Trucks band is outstanding for a more southerny sound. Along with them is WSP which is great, Gov't mule which I don't like too much.. Tea Leaf is wonderful

I fucking love Twiddle, but they're straight jammy so I'm not sure how much you'd like them. Lots of goofy songs, lot of noodling but I love it. The Werks kind of fall into this category too

Phish is great...

Alex Bleeker & The Freaks also fall in between MMJ/Jammy, he's the bassist for Real Estate, great shit.

Jam Bands are an acquired taste. Jam bands are all about the flow of their concert, and you'll only familiarize yourself with that flow by seeing them live or listening to a concert online. What I'm getting at though is that it takes quite a bit of work to really get into a jam band, but it pays off. When I found the Dead I literally didn't listen to any other band on my own for months. I just listened to a new concert every day. My brother gave me a ton of shit about it until he found Phish and listened to them for months in a row too..

Go listen to Perpetual Groove!

Edit: Your biggest friend in this journey is archive.org. The Dead have their own archive section, that's how I got into them. It has live concerts of pretty much every jam band imaginable, and actually quite a few My Morning Jacket concerts too. https://archive.org/details/MyMorningJacket (https://archive.org/details/MyMorningJacket)
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: Angelo on Jun 20, 2015, 07:15 PM
Am I out of bounds by making the generalization that hardcore jam band fans aren't too interested in albums? I've got jam band friends that are my age, mid 30s, that don't seem to give a shit about albums but they're really big fans of music and they go to a good amount of shows.
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: LBSUNFLWR on Jun 30, 2015, 09:45 AM
I rarely to never listen to Grateful Dead albums. there's just so many soundboards out there and I absolutely think live music is better! with just about all bands. If you're no good live then you're no good.

I do still play MMJ albums but the live shows are way more exciting.
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: parkervb on Jun 30, 2015, 10:00 AM
Quote from: LBSUNFLWR on Jun 30, 2015, 09:45 AM
I rarely to never listen to Grateful Dead albums. there's just so many soundboards out there and I absolutely think live music is better! with just about all bands. If you're no good live then you're no good.

I do still play MMJ albums but the live shows are way more exciting.

Workingman's Dead. You should work that into a rotation of albums. I can't seem to find live recordings that match some of the vocal harmonies on that album.
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: LBSUNFLWR on Jun 30, 2015, 10:41 AM
will do!
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: Angelo on Jun 30, 2015, 08:54 PM
I wasn't referring to just GD albums. Just albums in general. Or maybe just new albums?
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: Jaimoe on Jul 01, 2015, 09:50 PM
Quote from: parkervb on Jun 30, 2015, 10:00 AM
Quote from: LBSUNFLWR on Jun 30, 2015, 09:45 AM
I rarely to never listen to Grateful Dead albums. there's just so many soundboards out there and I absolutely think live music is better! with just about all bands. If you're no good live then you're no good.

I do still play MMJ albums but the live shows are way more exciting.

Workingman's Dead. You should work that into a rotation of albums. I can't seem to find live recordings that match some of the vocal harmonies on that album.

And American Beauty. The Dead have a number of good studio albums. Phish does too, although I've soured on them and the post-Dead jam scene for the most part.
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: adam_pliskow on Jul 02, 2015, 12:08 AM
Chris Robinson Brotherhood is simply amazing. 
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: ajclements004 on Jul 02, 2015, 12:12 AM
Quote from: adam_pliskow on Jul 02, 2015, 12:08 AM
Chris Robinson Brotherhood is simply amazing.


YES!  :beer:

For anyone who is uncertain about the dead, this is where you begin. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe_'72
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: LBSUNFLWR on Jul 02, 2015, 09:15 AM
Quote from: adam_pliskow on Jul 02, 2015, 12:08 AM
Chris Robinson Brotherhood is simply amazing.

Agreed. Have loved every show I have seen, and looking forward to another in September!! But I'm a huge Black Crowes fan, and a Neal Casal fan so the combo in the CRB is perfect for me. 

That new Betty's Blend is pretty great if you haven't heard it yet!
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: parkervb on Jul 02, 2015, 10:26 AM
Quote from: ajclements004 on Jul 02, 2015, 12:12 AM
Quote from: adam_pliskow on Jul 02, 2015, 12:08 AM
Chris Robinson Brotherhood is simply amazing.


YES!  :beer:

For anyone who is uncertain about the dead, this is where you begin. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe_'72

That's exactly what hooked me.
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: iLikeBeer on Jul 02, 2015, 07:02 PM
Quote from: LBSUNFLWR on Jul 02, 2015, 09:15 AM
Quote from: adam_pliskow on Jul 02, 2015, 12:08 AM
Chris Robinson Brotherhood is simply amazing.

Agreed. Have loved every show I have seen, and looking forward to another in September!! But I'm a huge Black Crowes fan, and a Neal Casal fan so the combo in the CRB is perfect for me. 

That new Betty's Blend is pretty great if you haven't heard it yet!

Me too!!!  :beer:  They played 2 nights in Cleveland 2 years in a row and I was out of town for both years and then last year when I finally got to see them, they only played one night.  Well, this year they're playing 2 nights again in Cleveland and I'm going to be there with bells on for both nights!!!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: parkervb on Jul 04, 2015, 02:12 PM
Quote from: iLikeBeer on Jul 02, 2015, 07:02 PM
Quote from: LBSUNFLWR on Jul 02, 2015, 09:15 AM
Quote from: adam_pliskow on Jul 02, 2015, 12:08 AM
Chris Robinson Brotherhood is simply amazing.

Agreed. Have loved every show I have seen, and looking forward to another in September!! But I'm a huge Black Crowes fan, and a Neal Casal fan so the combo in the CRB is perfect for me. 

That new Betty's Blend is pretty great if you haven't heard it yet!

Me too!!!  :beer:  They played 2 nights in Cleveland 2 years in a row and I was out of town for both years and then last year when I finally got to see them, they only played one night.  Well, this year they're playing 2 nights again in Cleveland and I'm going to be there with bells on for both nights!!!   :thumbsup:

they are playing this little club here in Virginia Beach later this month and then a small place in Nags Head, NC
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: LBSUNFLWR on May 02, 2017, 08:39 AM
This is just a crazy story. The day after his 70th birthday, as some incredible musicians got together to honor him, after 4 hours of musical tribute, during the final song "Turn On Your Lovelight", on stage Col. Bruce Hampton collapses and dies.

what a way to go out! RIP

https://www.jambase.com/article/jam-scene-patriarch-col-bruce-hampton-died
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: walterfredo on May 02, 2017, 11:01 AM
This was the first thing I read when I woke up this morning and felt a mixture of sadness and happiness. Like laughing and crying simultaneously. Too crazy! Love(d) the Col.

Of course they played this earlier in the night...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SajJx_dlA3o&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Trying to Make Sense of Jam Bands
Post by: MOWJO8185 on Jun 16, 2017, 11:19 AM
I don't know if the OP is still looking for something similar to what they described in their OP - but how much have you listened to Tame Impala?  They put out a little live album called "Live Versions" a few years ago that is sort of in the vein of what you mentioned. No ridiculously long jams, but some songs that span to the 7 or 8 minute mark. It's only 9 songs, but I think they have several bootlegs out there as well.