So with Jim saying a new live album is in the works, what 1 song do you feel has to make the cut? To me, the answer is obvious. In my opinion, the holy trinity of MMJ consists of Steam Engine, Dondonte, and Phone Went West. Strangulation is the alternate and close 4th.
With that said, the absence of "Phone Went West" on Okonokos has always bugged me. It is so great live and is a signature track. It absolutely has to be on the next live album.
So if Jim approached you and said "you get a vote, what one song is on the album," what would it be?????
Beacon PWW is an absolute monster! Please, Jim.
Quote from: crooney on Jun 13, 2016, 11:14 AM
Beacon PWW is an absolute monster! Please, Jim.
Without question the absolute BEST Phone I ever saw or heard!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
This would easily be the one song I'd want to be on the album.
War Begun - one of my favorite live songs, way different than studio version, and not on Okonokos.
For songs since Okonokos I think Victory Dance and Touch Me Pt 2 have to be on the list.
I agree, War Begun is a must. Epic versions since 2012 at Wiltern, Port Chester, Masonic and Beacon runs, among others. When it goes into I Will Sing You Songs, its my absolute favorite back to back combo in their live repertoire!
Librarian
For songs since Z (Okonokos), the only ones I find to be must-haves are:
Smokin from Shootin--->Touch Me 2
Circuital
Victory Dance
Tropics
Only Memories Remain
RR 16 Picture of You. It was like mixing Heartbreaking Man with Lay Low.
I was thinking about what an Okonokos 2 Setlist would look like and it is difficult. You would want to accomplish 3 things:
1) Represent all 7 albums
2) Include songs from the 3 albums since Z/Okonokos
3) Present songs not showcased on Okonokos
This proves difficult because many of the Okonokos tracks are essentials and the band blew their wad of Z tracks (8 of the 10). I attempted to make my perfect live album tracklist for Okonokos 2 and aimed to accomplish the 3 goals above.** You will see that there are no repeats from Okonokos which sucks (Z light) but as a companion piece to Okonokos, I wanted it to tell the MMJ story. I used the Setlist from the Beacon shows last year as my menu of tracks. I also stuck to the 21 song formula to mimick Okonokos cd/digital. I realize the vinyl has more songs, but most people are more familiar with the digital/cd version (I also wanted Strangulation and Where to Begin on the standard release). I feel like this kind of tracklist, although light on Z and some key MMJ tracks, would complete the tale so to speak. How did I do?
DISC 1
1) victory dance
2) compound fracture
3) easy morning rebel
4) cobra
5) Evil Urges
6) Picture of You*
7) Knot comes loose
8) Just Because I Do
9) Where to Begin
10) Holding on to Black Metal
11) Only Memories Remain
DISC 2
1) War Begun
2) Circuital
3) Masterplan
4) Smokin from Shootin (into.....)
5) Touch Me part 2
6) Old September Blues
7) Strangulation
8) Tropics
9) Rollin Back
10) Phone Went West
*if you have never seen this version of "Picture of you," put down what you are doing and watch. Unreal: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qqyBZ5KYLAU
**I am a f*cking nerd.
I just hope it is a good mix of material. When I listen back to Okonokos it is has too much of Z on it. I just hope this new live album wouldn't be mostly the last three albums but I feel like it will be
Quote from: midwesterner on Jun 14, 2016, 03:23 PM
I just hope it is a good mix of material. When I listen back to Okonokos it is has too much of Z on it. I just hope this new live album wouldn't be mostly the last three albums but I feel like it will be
I feel like what I did above is fair....shows off the newer albums without oversaturating, and presents some older classics not on Okonokos. I really hope they do something similar if they don't go the "full set" or "box set" route.
OKONOKOS II: (made up of recordings / footage (hopefully) of Beacon shows)
Disc I:
1. Evil Urges
2. Victory Dance
3. Circuital
4. The Dark
5. Compound Fracture
6. Masterplan
7. How Do You Know
8. Evelyn's Not Real
9. I'm Amazed
10.In Its Infancy (The Waterfall)
11.War Begun
12.Picture Of You
Disc II:
13.The Bear
14.Knot Comes Loose
15.Tonite I Want 2 Celebrate With U
16.Only Memories Remain
17.They Ran
18.Heartbreakin Man
19.Aluminum Park
20.Spring (Among The Living)
21.Easy Morning Rebel
22.Highly Suspicious
23.Holdin On To Black Metal
24.Cobra
Disc III:
24.Tropics (Erase Traces)
25.Smokin From Shootin
26.Touch Me (Pt.II) / Encore crowd noise / anticipation
27. Rollin Back
28. State of The Art (AEIOU)
29. Steam Engine
30. Down On The Bottom
31. Dancefloors
32. Phone Went West
anything even CLOSE to this ...is bonerific and i will purchase it the nanosecond it's out. Let the speculation begin.....
im down with Columbus 2012 as well.... :rolleyes: :thumbsup:
actually sorry, How Do You Know, DOES NOT have to be on the new live album...the scorching hot blast of HDYK from 2005's Okonokos Itunes bonus track edition is UNBELIEVABLE and very much a definitive version of that song. I'd very much like at the same time, Okonokos Expanded & Remastered to be released and Okonokos II to come out hahahha same time, separate DVDs, cases that look similar so you can put them next to each other on the shelves and drool :cheesy:
Trouble Sleep Yanga Wake Am
Quote from: Lonndown27 on Jun 14, 2016, 06:31 PM
OKONOKOS II: (made up of recordings / footage (hopefully) of Beacon shows)
Disc I:
1. Evil Urges
2. Victory Dance
3. Circuital
4. The Dark
5. Compound Fracture
6. Masterplan
7. How Do You Know
8. Evelyn's Not Real
9. I'm Amazed
10.In Its Infancy (The Waterfall)
11.War Begun
12.Picture Of You
Disc II:
13.The Bear
14.Knot Comes Loose
15.Tonite I Want 2 Celebrate With U
16.Only Memories Remain
17.They Ran
18.Heartbreakin Man
19.Aluminum Park
20.Spring (Among The Living)
21.Easy Morning Rebel
22.Highly Suspicious
23.Holdin On To Black Metal
24.Cobra
Disc III:
24.Tropics (Erase Traces)
25.Smokin From Shootin
26.Touch Me (Pt.II) / Encore crowd noise / anticipation
27. Rollin Back
28. State of The Art (AEIOU)
29. Steam Engine
30. Down On The Bottom
31. Dancefloors
32. Phone Went West
anything even CLOSE to this ...is bonerific and i will purchase it the nanosecond it's out. Let the speculation begin.....
God I wish it was a 3 discer! One thing I don't want though are non MMJ-songs (Down on the Bottom/State of the Art). I'd rather them keep MMJ tracks only in consideration.
Hold the phone - I realize this is not the point of this thread - but there's an iTunes version of Okononos with How Do You Know as a bonus track...?!?!?!??? How the F did I not know about this?!?!?!?? One of my absolute favorite MMJ songs and I thought I had tracked down all of the Okonokos songs that were played but didn't make the cut for the actual album. It definitely doesn't show up in iTunes when I look for Okonokos in the US store... Would anyone be able to point me in the right direction please...?
Back on topic: REMNANTS or SMOKIN FROM SHOOTIN or VICTORY DANCE because these guys are too amazing to pick only one. Also, Compound Fracture because awesome.
Wow you guys coverd it pretty well here
My must have would be: PWW, War Begun, Tropics, Spring, the Bear, Smokin from Shootin
Oh and a Slow Slow Tune
Tropics is my fave live song from The Waterfall, and I'm with ya gardenparty, on Slow Slow Tune. It can get that epic slide guitar solo crescendo after the lovely and soulful main part of the song. Live versions can be a revelation for those that didn't notice how great the song is from the studio version!
Quote from: Shug on Jun 15, 2016, 12:30 PMLive versions can be a revelation for those that didn't notice how great the song is from the studio version!
I totally agree with this statement. I typically don't enjoy the studio versions of songs once I've heard the live version. With the recent ISM reissue, to me, you've got the demo versions as bonus tracks, the album version as guides for the live versions, and then the live versions, which to me are the definitive versions. Long live live music!!
Quote from: sillyboob on Jun 15, 2016, 01:10 PM
Quote from: Shug on Jun 15, 2016, 12:30 PMLive versions can be a revelation for those that didn't notice how great the song is from the studio version!
I totally agree with this statement. I typically don't enjoy the studio versions of songs once I've heard the live version. With the recent ISM reissue, to me, you've got the demo versions as bonus tracks, the album version as guides for the live versions, and then the live versions, which to me are the definitive versions. Long live live music!!
here here!!! :beer:
Quote from: Nikkogino on Jun 14, 2016, 07:56 PM
Quote from: Lonndown27 on Jun 14, 2016, 06:31 PM
OKONOKOS II: (made up of recordings / footage (hopefully) of Beacon shows)
Disc I:
1. Evil Urges
2. Victory Dance
3. Circuital
4. The Dark
5. Compound Fracture
6. Masterplan
7. How Do You Know
8. Evelyn's Not Real
9. I'm Amazed
10.In Its Infancy (The Waterfall)
11.War Begun
12.Picture Of You
Disc II:
13.The Bear
14.Knot Comes Loose
15.Tonite I Want 2 Celebrate With U
16.Only Memories Remain
17.They Ran
18.Heartbreakin Man
19.Aluminum Park
20.Spring (Among The Living)
21.Easy Morning Rebel
22.Highly Suspicious
23.Holdin On To Black Metal
24.Cobra
Disc III:
24.Tropics (Erase Traces)
25.Smokin From Shootin
26.Touch Me (Pt.II) / Encore crowd noise / anticipation
27. Rollin Back
28. State of The Art (AEIOU)
29. Steam Engine
30. Down On The Bottom
31. Dancefloors
32. Phone Went West
anything even CLOSE to this ...is bonerific and i will purchase it the nanosecond it's out. Let the speculation begin.....
God I wish it was a 3 discer! One thing I don't want though are non MMJ-songs (Down on the Bottom/State of the Art). I'd rather them keep MMJ tracks only in consideration.
totally get what you mean but arent those live versions just fucking sick????? if they replaced those two with Slow Slow and Wonderful i wouldnt mind one bit!!! Slow Slow is FUCKING EPIC!!!!
Quote from: Brother Beck on Jun 14, 2016, 08:27 PM
Hold the phone - I realize this is not the point of this thread - but there's an iTunes version of Okononos with How Do You Know as a bonus track...?!?!?!??? How the F did I not know about this?!?!?!?? One of my absolute favorite MMJ songs and I thought I had tracked down all of the Okonokos songs that were played but didn't make the cut for the actual album. It definitely doesn't show up in iTunes when I look for Okonokos in the US store... Would anyone be able to point me in the right direction please...?
Back on topic: REMNANTS or SMOKIN FROM SHOOTIN or VICTORY DANCE because these guys are too amazing to pick only one. Also, Compound Fracture because awesome.
Brother Beck, look in your PM for a present brudddah! :beer: :grin:
Quote from: sillyboob on Jun 15, 2016, 01:10 PM
Quote from: Shug on Jun 15, 2016, 12:30 PMLive versions can be a revelation for those that didn't notice how great the song is from the studio version!
I totally agree with this statement. I typically don't enjoy the studio versions of songs once I've heard the live version. With the recent ISM reissue, to me, you've got the demo versions as bonus tracks, the album version as guides for the live versions, and then the live versions, which to me are the definitive versions. Long live live music!!
I agree with this, but not for all bands. MMJ become gods on-stage, so this applies. There are bands out there though that flourish in the studio.
MMJ flourishes in the studio as well anyone. They just go to another level live. The Waterfall is a pure studio gem. All kinds of layered quirks and Easter Eggs. It completely transforms into something quite different live.
The day is coming was off the charts at the beacon insane jam session at the end would love to see that on there even though it's not high on most people's lists
Quote from: hendo9591 on Jun 15, 2016, 10:43 PM
The day is coming was off the charts at the beacon insane jam session at the end would love to see that on there even though it's not high on most people's lists
No question about that. :thumbsup: We were lucky enough to hear them sound check that one (twice actually) and knew it was gonna be great but they totally blew me away with it during the show. I'd love to see it make the album as well. :beer:
For me, I'd be looking for a scorching version of Touch Me Part 2. And War Begun too.
Quote from: sillyboob on Jun 16, 2016, 10:05 AM
For me, I'd be looking for a scorching version of Touch Me Part 2. And War Begun too.
yea! TMP2 has gotten so badass over the last couple of years!
Quote from: sillyboob on Jun 16, 2016, 10:05 AM
For me, I'd be looking for a scorching version of Touch Me Part 2. And War Begun too.
To me OBH2 is the definitive War Begun. Like 15 minutes of epic
What does today's instagram post mean?
Quote from: Brother Beck on Jun 14, 2016, 08:27 PM
Hold the phone - I realize this is not the point of this thread - but there's an iTunes version of Okononos with How Do You Know as a bonus track...?!?!?!??? How the F did I not know about this?!?!?!?? One of my absolute favorite MMJ songs and I thought I had tracked down all of the Okonokos songs that were played but didn't make the cut for the actual album. It definitely doesn't show up in iTunes when I look for Okonokos in the US store... Would anyone be able to point me in the right direction please...?
Where/how did you find that (How Do You Know)? Such a solid tune and would love to hear it live. Send it my way or show me the way to it, please!
EVERYONE needs to track down the Okonokos Project. It's the single most essential MMJ release ever compiled.
JBID from beacon. Magical
for people who had the privilege to go to both T5 AND the Beacon run...you are some lucky bastards!!!
Quote from: Lonndown27 on Jun 19, 2016, 01:18 PM
for people who had the privilege to go to both T5 AND the Beacon run...you are some lucky bastards!!!
:happy:
I was at both runs and that's exactly how I feel about being able to do both. It was a privilege, and I definitely feel lucky to have been there for all of those shows. :thumbsup: :beer:
I can't pick a favorite as that would be like asking which of my kids do I love the most. I will say The Tennessee Fire night 1 @ T5 was one of the more memorable shows I have ever seen in decades of going to concerts. Not just for the sheer awesomeness of the album and tremendous performance of it but I'll never forget how absolutely quiet it was in there during each song. It was like we were at Carnegie Hall where no one dare spoke during a song and everyone held their applause til after each song. :cool:
The show was no doubt for those who really wanted to be there and hard core fans. Everyone was so focused on the music and unlike so many other shows there was NO chatter! It was so quiet, it made a lasting impression on me. I'll always remember that as does most everyone else who was there that night, I'm sure. A tip of my cap and a very well done to everyone there. :beer:
Quote from: ericm on Jun 19, 2016, 07:29 PM
Quote from: Lonndown27 on Jun 19, 2016, 01:18 PM
for people who had the privilege to go to both T5 AND the Beacon run...you are some lucky bastards!!!
:happy:
I was at both runs and that's exactly how I feel about being able to do both. It was a privilege, and I definitely feel lucky to have been there for all of those shows. :thumbsup: :beer:
I can't pick a favorite as that would be like asking which of my kids do I love the most. I will say The Tennessee Fire night 1 @ T5 was one of the more memorable shows I have ever seen in decades of going to concerts. Not just for the sheer awesomeness of the album and tremendous performance of it but I'll never forget how absolutely quiet it was in there during each song. It was like we were at Carnegie Hall where no one dare spoke during a song and everyone held their applause til after each song. :cool:
The show was no doubt for those who really wanted to be there and hard core fans. Everyone was so focused on the music and unlike so many other shows there was NO chatter! It was so quiet, it made a lasting impression on me. I'll always remember that as does most everyone else who was there that night, I'm sure. A tip of my cap and a very well done to everyone there. :beer:
I love the way TTF songs sound today...so good.
Like a River - but a 10 minute version where they take it to a completely different place.
Quote from: ericm on Jun 19, 2016, 07:29 PM
Quote from: Lonndown27 on Jun 19, 2016, 01:18 PM
for people who had the privilege to go to both T5 AND the Beacon run...you are some lucky bastards!!!
:happy:
I was at both runs and that's exactly how I feel about being able to do both. It was a privilege, and I definitely feel lucky to have been there for all of those shows. :thumbsup: :beer:
I can't pick a favorite as that would be like asking which of my kids do I love the most. I will say The Tennessee Fire night 1 @ T5 was one of the more memorable shows I have ever seen in decades of going to concerts. Not just for the sheer awesomeness of the album and tremendous performance of it but I'll never forget how absolutely quiet it was in there during each song. It was like we were at Carnegie Hall where no one dare spoke during a song and everyone held their applause til after each song. :cool:
The show was no doubt for those who really wanted to be there and hard core fans. Everyone was so focused on the music and unlike so many other shows there was NO chatter! It was so quiet, it made a lasting impression on me. I'll always remember that as does most everyone else who was there that night, I'm sure. A tip of my cap and a very well done to everyone there. :beer:
I NEED MORE STORIES!!!!!! How was Come Closer on the At Dawn night? How did they sound playing it? was it a different version? sorry im obsessed
Quote from: Lonndown27 on Jun 23, 2016, 12:26 PM
Quote from: ericm on Jun 19, 2016, 07:29 PM
Quote from: Lonndown27 on Jun 19, 2016, 01:18 PM
for people who had the privilege to go to both T5 AND the Beacon run...you are some lucky bastards!!!
The show was no doubt for those who really wanted to be there and hard core fans. Everyone was so focused on the music and unlike so many other shows there was NO chatter! It was so quiet, it made a lasting impression on me. I'll always remember that as does most everyone else who was there that night, I'm sure. A tip of my cap and a very well done to everyone there. :beer:
I NEED MORE STORIES!!!!!! How was Come Closer on the At Dawn night? How did they sound playing it? was it a different version? sorry im obsessed
My god yes, that T5 night 1 was so good.
I think I was weeping too much to think about whether Come Closer was much different...but I know it was wonderful. :wink:
You want stories? How about when they played Cobra after killing Miss You right after Come Closer right after blowing the roof off the place with O, and I had been wondering aloud earlier if they'd play the whole thing...and then I realized they were! I sort of had a little freakout, and this kid next to me asked what this tune was, and I told him, then started going on about how they've never played the WHOLE THING, and that's when ms yvon turned to me with eyes blazing and shushed me. I shushed. :grin:
Quote from: Lonndown27 on Jun 19, 2016, 01:18 PM
for people who had the privilege to go to both T5 AND the Beacon run...you are some lucky bastards!!!
I was at both of those runs and I think If I really had to pick a favorite night.... it would be Night 3 of Port Chester haha.
In all honesty, I dont take it for granted that I got to be at all THREE of those runs