So now that we have both Waterfall albums, along with the other deluxe tracks from WF1, we have a total of 22 songs.
1) Are there any other released or unreleased tracks from the WF sessions (other than Hillside and I Can't Wait) that we are missing?
2) With what we have, how would you arrange these tracks if you were to make a combined album?
HA just posted something similar in the other thread, so for the sake of redundancy here is my post:
What would be your 'perfect' Waterfall album if you can just take 10 tracks from both albums. Only needed one listen to #2 to know my album:
1. Believe
2.In it's Infancy
3. Get the point
4. Spring
5. Tropics
6. Feel You
7. Magic Bullet
8. Run it
9. Wasted
10. Welcome Home
Still Thinkin/The first time/only memories remain were all in the running for the 10 spot.
I think I like more songs on #2, but I LOVE more songs on #1 (if that makes sense).
Quote from: Jbpats on Jul 10, 2020, 08:55 AMHA just posted something similar in the other thread, so for the sake of redundancy here is my post:
What would be your 'perfect' Waterfall album if you can just take 10 tracks from both albums. Only needed one listen to #2 to know my album:
1. Believe
2.In it's Infancy
3. Get the point
4. Spring
5. Tropics
6. Feel You
7. Magic Bullet
8. Run it
9. Wasted
10. Welcome Home
Still Thinkin/The first time/only memories remain were all in the running for the 10 spot.
I think I like more songs on #2, but I LOVE more songs on #1 (if that makes sense).
What I'm trying to do here is assemble it as if it had become a triple album as originally planned. I do love Welcome Home as the closer.
I'll just throw them all on mix and be super happy
Currently doing a playlist rearranging the songs to see how it sounds as a complete album.
I'm still convinced, like I mentioned when Uniform Distortion came out, that some of those songs were supposed to be part of The Waterfall series. Now possibly more when he mentions it was supposed to be a "triple album"
Quote from: dookie shoot bandit on Jul 10, 2020, 03:12 PMI'm still convinced, like I mentioned when Uniform Distortion came out, that some of those songs were supposed to be part of The Waterfall series. Now possibly more when he mentions it was supposed to be a "triple album"
I agree. I think a lot of side 1 of WF2, especially Still Thinkin, blends in with the sound on UD.
I think I'd leave the albums pretty much as is just as disc 1 and 2. If I were to combine them into 1 album though...
Spinning My Wheels
Compound Fracture
Infancy
Feel You
Run It
Spring
Magic Bullet
Wasted
Tropics
Welcome Home
wish there was a way to work in believe and the first time or only memories, they're real tough songs to leave out.
COMPOUND FRACTURE
SPRING
TROPICS
MAGIC BULLET
IN ITS INFANCY
FEEL YOU
WASTED
THIN LINE
WELCOME HOME
RUN IT
ONLY MEMORIES REMAIN
TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE
What a fun exercise! I'll cap it at 10 tracks to match most people.
1. In It's Infancy (The Waterfall) - feel like it just makes sense to start a "Waterfall" album with the song with "Waterfall" in the it.
2. Feel You - Something about this makes me think it would pair nice after In It's Infancy
3. Spinning My Wheels - Time to slow things down even further, just to prepare us all for a big, epic second half
4. Tropics (Erase Traces) - After a couple of slower songs, inject some energy back in
5. Like A River - Song with nice balance of chill vibes with up-tempo vibes. Fit nicely dead-centre.
6. Still Thinking - Beach Boy vibes, feels like a nice "reawakening" and clarity after the second-half falsettos in Like A River.
7. Run It - Was tempted to pair this with "Like A River" because of the water references. Felt too on the nose. 7 felt right lol.
8. Spring (Among the Living) - Come to a bit of a crescendo in the album. Want to end with a trio of longer, more epic songs. Last song mentioned "trying to get back to water". Spring sounds like that arrival (among the living again - I didn't think I'd make it)
9. Only Memories Remain - Long and very slow, but very good. It winds down everything perfectly and gets you settled in to prepare for the last stop in the album...
10. Wasted - End the thing with a bang. I feel this song has a lot of "false endings" to where you think it's done, then it isn't. What a fun way it would be to close out the album - reaching a maximum level of energy and riding off into the sunset.
I combined both albums, didn't leave any out, and added Hillside Song. Gotta say guys...this fucking rules. Highly recommend it. These albums flow so well together...kinda like water.
01. Spinning My Wheels
02. Believe
03. Run It
04. Big Decisions
05. In Its Infancy
06. Still Thinkin
07. Like A River
08. Wasted
09. Tropics
10. The First Time
11. Hillside Song
12. Beautiful Love
13. Thin Line
14. Feel You
15. Spring
16. Magic Bullet
17. Compound Fracture
18. Climbing the Ladder
19. Welcome Home
20. Get the Point
21. Only Memories Remain
I've also been playing with the running order, I'm having fun with it.
Spinning > Believe is a magical opener. Just had to alter the crossfade so there isn't a big gap between the two.
Waterfall > Feel You is essential. The energy flow between the two is magical.
I also went down a Spring > Big D > Wasted > Tropics rabbit hole last night that was pretty epic. Following it up with Welcome Home was much needed!
1 Spinning My Wheels
2 Believe
3 Still Thinkin
4 Like A River
5 The Waterfall
6 Feel You
7 Run It
8 Spring
9 Magic Bullet
10 Big Decisions (Not usually a fan but in the context of this running order I actually found myself loving it, slots in seamlessly)
11 Wasted
12 Tropics
13 Welcome Home
14 The First Time
Quote from: RobRoy286 on Jul 11, 2020, 09:36 AMI combined both albums, didn't leave any out, and added Hillside Song. Gotta say guys...this fucking rules. Highly recommend it. These albums flow so well together...kinda like water.
01. Spinning My Wheels
02. Believe
03. Run It
04. Big Decisions
05. In Its Infancy
06. Still Thinkin
07. Like A River
08. Wasted
09. Tropics
10. The First Time
11. Hillside Song
12. Beautiful Love
13. Thin Line
14. Feel You
15. Spring
16. Magic Bullet
17. Compound Fracture
18. Climbing the Ladder
19. Welcome Home
20. Get the Point
21. Only Memories Remain
No "I Can't Wait"?
I went with my personal favorites from each album, limiting to be 6 from each with 12 total tracks. Fits nicely, though a bit long, on 3 LP sides:
01. Spinning My Wheels
02. Like a River
03. In Its Infancy (The Waterfall)
04. Feel You
05. Spring (Among the Living)
06. Magic Bullet
07. Thin Line
08. Wasted
09. Tropics (Erase Traces)
10. Run It
11. Only Memories Remain
12. The First Time
Still Thinkin was hard to cut, love the end of that track a ton especially. Welcome Home was hard to cut as well, but hey it's an older track and I just couldn't fit it very nicely with how I wanted this to flow. Honestly there might only be 1 or 2 tracks on both albums I'm not as much a fan of, I think they killed it with both these albums and they work best on their own...
Quote from: Nikkogino on Jul 11, 2020, 10:50 AMQuote from: RobRoy286 on Jul 11, 2020, 09:36 AMI combined both albums, didn't leave any out, and added Hillside Song. Gotta say guys...this fucking rules. Highly recommend it. These albums flow so well together...kinda like water.
01. Spinning My Wheels
02. Believe
03. Run It
04. Big Decisions
05. In Its Infancy
06. Still Thinkin
07. Like A River
08. Wasted
09. Tropics
10. The First Time
11. Hillside Song
12. Beautiful Love
13. Thin Line
14. Feel You
15. Spring
16. Magic Bullet
17. Compound Fracture
18. Climbing the Ladder
19. Welcome Home
20. Get the Point
21. Only Memories Remain
No "I Can't Wait"?
Yeah, I guess I wasn't feeling it this morning! I wanted to just make it the album tracks as is, but I love Hillside Song so much. I Can't Wait didn't seem to fit. The fact that it's actually an old Jacket song made me okay with excluding it from this compilation.
Quote from: RobRoy286 on Jul 11, 2020, 09:36 AMI combined both albums, didn't leave any out, and added Hillside Song. Gotta say guys...this fucking rules. Highly recommend it. These albums flow so well together...kinda like water.
01. Spinning My Wheels
02. Believe
03. Run It
04. Big Decisions
05. In Its Infancy
06. Still Thinkin
07. Like A River
08. Wasted
09. Tropics
10. The First Time
11. Hillside Song
12. Beautiful Love
13. Thin Line
14. Feel You
15. Spring
16. Magic Bullet
17. Compound Fracture
18. Climbing the Ladder
19. Welcome Home
20. Get the Point
21. Only Memories Remain
I keep thinking about Wasted into Tropics!
LIVE!!!
😱😳
Quote from: dookie shoot bandit on Jul 11, 2020, 06:42 PMQuote from: RobRoy286 on Jul 11, 2020, 09:36 AMI combined both albums, didn't leave any out, and added Hillside Song. Gotta say guys...this fucking rules. Highly recommend it. These albums flow so well together...kinda like water.
01. Spinning My Wheels
02. Believe
03. Run It
04. Big Decisions
05. In Its Infancy
06. Still Thinkin
07. Like A River
08. Wasted
09. Tropics
10. The First Time
11. Hillside Song
12. Beautiful Love
13. Thin Line
14. Feel You
15. Spring
16. Magic Bullet
17. Compound Fracture
18. Climbing the Ladder
19. Welcome Home
20. Get the Point
21. Only Memories Remain
I keep thinking about Wasted into Tropics!
LIVE!!!
😱😳
OHHHH yeah buddy. I tinkered around with this track list a lot, and landed on what I think are some great transitions. Hillside/Beautiful Love/Thin Line/Feel You is such a nice run.
Here's my list. Only bangers.
Spotify playlist link below if interested in listening.
1. Spring
2. Compound
3. Wasted
4. Magic Bullet
5. Hillside
6. Run It
7. Big Decisions
8. First Time
9. Still Thinking
10. The Waterfall
11. Tropics
12. I Can't Wait
13. Only Memories Remain
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4l7hb2V55ePHYHPunTok0c?si=Z2fEprG3R8WysTx3dqb5sw
Quote from: RobRoy286 on Jul 11, 2020, 09:36 AMI combined both albums, didn't leave any out, and added Hillside Song. Gotta say guys...this fucking rules. Highly recommend it. These albums flow so well together...kinda like water.
01. Spinning My Wheels
02. Believe
03. Run It
04. Big Decisions
05. In Its Infancy
06. Still Thinkin
07. Like A River
08. Wasted
09. Tropics
10. The First Time
11. Hillside Song
12. Beautiful Love
13. Thin Line
14. Feel You
15. Spring
16. Magic Bullet
17. Compound Fracture
18. Climbing the Ladder
19. Welcome Home
20. Get the Point
21. Only Memories Remain
Thanks so much for sharing this...
I put together a playlist using your "flow" and love it!!
(https://uniim1.shutterfly.com/ng/services/mediarender/THISLIFE/005085805361/media/1672237471007589/small/1594770624/enhance)
MMJ: We're releasing these separately b/c they don't make any sense together
Fans: Don't tell us what to do
Quote from: Osistheones on Jul 16, 2020, 07:06 PMMMJ: We're releasing these separately b/c they don't make any sense together
Fans: Don't tell us what to do
Hell yeah brother
Quote from: derbydave on Jul 14, 2020, 07:57 PMQuote from: RobRoy286 on Jul 11, 2020, 09:36 AMI combined both albums, didn't leave any out, and added Hillside Song. Gotta say guys...this fucking rules. Highly recommend it. These albums flow so well together...kinda like water.
01. Spinning My Wheels
02. Believe
03. Run It
04. Big Decisions
05. In Its Infancy
06. Still Thinkin
07. Like A River
08. Wasted
09. Tropics
10. The First Time
11. Hillside Song
12. Beautiful Love
13. Thin Line
14. Feel You
15. Spring
16. Magic Bullet
17. Compound Fracture
18. Climbing the Ladder
19. Welcome Home
20. Get the Point
21. Only Memories Remain
Thanks so much for sharing this...
I put together a playlist using your "flow" and love it!!
(https://uniim1.shutterfly.com/ng/services/mediarender/THISLIFE/005085805361/media/1672237471007589/small/1594770624/enhance)
Can you link it here to save me the trouble?!?
Nice tracklist!!! I like the three song comedown at the end.
Have been trying to create the perfect single album from these two and it is amazing how many different ways you can go with flow, etc.
This crop of songs seems like a creative peak for the band. So much great material.
And to imagine there is still more we haven't heard. Impressive!
Here is the single album i am working with now (though its best to just shuffle both albums)
1. Spinning My Wheels
2. Spring
3. In Its Infancy
4. Feel You
5. Like a River
6. Run it
7. Big Decisions
8. Wasted
9. Get the Point
10. Thin Line
11. Welcome Home
12. Tropics
13. Only Memories Remain
so many great songs had to be cut
You could mix II with pretty much any MMJ material and it's gonna sound good. I think it's way closer in spirit to Z than it is to The Waterfall. I understand it came from the same sessions and it's a bridge album, but they should've named it something else to really do it justice.
Quote from: Osistheones on Jul 21, 2020, 12:16 PMYou could mix II with pretty much any MMJ material and it's gonna sound good. I think it's way closer in spirit to Z than it is to The Waterfall. I understand it came from the same sessions and it's a bridge album, but they should've named it something else to really do it justice.
Agree 100%!
As far as sequels go though, Waterfall II is their The Godfather part II Or Empire Strikes Back, or any sequel that out did the original IMO
Quote from: Osistheones on Jul 21, 2020, 12:16 PMYou could mix II with pretty much any MMJ material and it's gonna sound good. I think it's way closer in spirit to Z than it is to The Waterfall. I understand it came from the same sessions and it's a bridge album, but they should've named it something else to really do it justice.
I think they should have named it Plunge Pool.
It's a name that relates back to the Waterfall name (I mean you can't shy away from the fact that they were recorded together), as a plunge pool is what you find at the bottom of a waterfall. A plunge pool is also the name of a smaller pool you relax in...I don't have a plunge pool but this album would sound good in one.
Here is how my waterfalls flow
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3HRei4qSNp9iHzk3WZ0muc?si=ScsOj5ggRyyW4uRZniiQkA (https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3HRei4qSNp9iHzk3WZ0muc?si=ScsOj5ggRyyW4uRZniiQkA)
Quote from: Clarkwork on Jul 30, 2020, 11:46 AMHere is how my waterfalls flow
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3HRei4qSNp9iHzk3WZ0muc?si=ScsOj5ggRyyW4uRZniiQkA (https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3HRei4qSNp9iHzk3WZ0muc?si=ScsOj5ggRyyW4uRZniiQkA)
Nice!!! 👍