A recording of a Halloween concert held at the Startime Pavilion in Braintree, Mass.
(http://www.mymorningjacket.com/Images/citsuoca.jpg)
Already available via Ebay CC, if you want spend big pennies.
Cool! Looking forward to it very much... :)
wait im confused what exactly is this? a official release or something? ne info would be appreciated.
Quotewait im confused what exactly is this? a official release or something? ne info would be appreciated.
yes, see the music page...
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm official release.......
Is this the official live album they were gonna put out? I remember reading they recording 2 Austin TX shows last year which they would put out.
This is a 5 track ep, not a full album.
Yeah, I also expected a full album. And I expected an electric live show... But hey! I don't give a fuck! Let's get it on! ;D
I do wonder... What's so mythical about that concert?
Well,
I hope it's an acoustic concert with the whole band backing up Jim.
I think there aren't many acoustic live recordings with the whole band? And that's why I long for an acoustic album with the whole band on it.
QuoteWell,
I hope it's an acoustic concert with the whole band backing up Jim.
I think there aren't many acoustic live recordings with the whole band? And that's why I long for an acoustic album with the whole band on it.
We get your drift. ;D
Is it that obvious?
No for sure,
O do you remember the 2meter sessies where they play some TF songs acoustic? I thought this was incredible and if you now see how the band has grown, I suspect that such an album (with the whole band on it) would be awesome.
They are also real fine musicians unplugged.
It's like Tony Koretz's "Gnos citsuoca"!
QuoteI do wonder... What's so mythical about that concert?
Me too ... I have no information (nor does the 'past shows' page of this official site) on an October 31st show ever ...
Hmm... Maybe that's what mythical about it: it doesn't exist! :)
hey there people, i managed to get a listen a couple weeks before this comes out and its real good. besides the song selection (which were mostly songs i'm unfamiliar with), the performance is real good. "golden" is excellent and rivals the studio (its solo acoustic). it represents another way to appericiate jim and the boys and hopefully interest in this will spark a full fleged live album with rare songs.
if anyone has any questions about this ep, i can probably answer them and it they'll be positive answers.
Is it all solo accoustic or also accoustic with the entire band?
Hey O I wanted to ask that question first ;)
Do you remember any of the other tracks?
the last two tracks are solo acoustic, golden and hopefully. the full band plays on the 1st three which are the bear, sooner, and bermuda highway.
i can understand why jim wanted to release this. the sound quality is excellent and everythings real tight. heres the tracklist:
01. the bear
02. sooner
03. bermuda highway
04. golden (prefer this over album version)
05. hopefully
Many thanks. Can't wait :)
I can't imagine that Bermuda Highway will be played with the whole band, because on the album itself it's played solo acoustic.
Can't wait to hear this. As "The Bear" is my favorite song. I just wish they would put out a full live concert or DVD.
check that.
must of been drunk or something, bermuda highway is solo acoustic.
Been trying to track this down in England. No sign of it on anything I've looked at. Is this just a US release and the rest of the world has to wait?
If anyone in the UK has tracked any for sale, could they post here.
Cheers Chucks.
Okay.
The first post of this topic was on April the 11th.
Today is May the 3rd.
It took me 22 days to figure out that 'Citsuoca' is 'Acoustic' turned around.
22 days.
:-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
But I bet you never forget it now :D
QuoteOkay.
The first post of this topic was on April the 11th.
Today is May the 3rd.
It took me 22 days to figure out that 'Citsuoca' is 'Acoustic' turned around.
22 days.
:-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
Don't feel so bad O...I thought it was something else, but I wasn't paying attention. Must. Go. Buy. This!
QuoteOkay.
The first post of this topic was on April the 11th.
Today is May the 3rd.
It took me 22 days to figure out that 'Citsuoca' is 'Acoustic' turned around.
22 days.
:-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
That made me laugh. Be happy you've cheered me up.
I'd be prepared to bet that some people only got it AFTER O's post ;)
:-X
Thought it was spanish
:-X :-/
If its out today, has anybody got it yet?
QuoteIf its out today, has anybody got it yet?
Wrong. Its out tomorrow (here) which is yesterday (there).
Thanks for the help with that one Mr Hawkins.
got it last night (I work at Newbury Comics in RI) and the sound is tight. good listening.
here's the real deal on it:
The music is primarily of lead singer Jim James acoustic with one full band song ("The Bear".) The concept of the EP is to place the listener in a fictional place at a fictional show, but in reality the material on the EP has been pulled from MMJ shows from Dallas, Austin, and Athens late last year.
NOW GO PICK THAT SHIZZY UP!!
Just finished a final exam :P, and I'm on my way to pick this cd up:). I've no other plans for the rest of the day ;D.
Oh, man! This is sooo good! Great performance, great recording! But why only 5 songs? It should be a double-cd ;D
I haven't found it yet here in Holland. Riny, is it being released over here? ???
QuoteI haven't found it yet here in Holland. Riny, is it being released over here? ???
I think for now it's a us release,
i'll let you know when it comes out elsewhere...
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I think for now it's a us release,
Why?
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Why?
I don't know.
You could check the websites listed on the citsuoca page to order it online. I know Vintage Vinyl ships worldwide so you could get it for around $10 incl. not that bad ;)
http://www.vintagevinyl.com
Thanks but they want $35.00 shipping!
Like the rest of the world, I'll have to wait.
hey there people who can't get it! I work at Newbury Comics and we have about 15 in stock still...so I am willing to mail it to people who want it....anywhere in the world too! just e-mail me to discuss: pingybrown@hotmail.com
peace.
QuoteThanks but they want $35.00 shipping!
Like the rest of the world, I'll have to wait.
really? the site says $5.50
strange.
Just received mine via UPS little while ago. Great little EP just in time for the hot summer nights. Favorite song is "The Bear". Best live version I've heard of it. Jim James voice is A+. I really hope they release a full live album.
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really? the site says $5.50
strange.
You don't find out until you hit checkout.
Pingy is a true gent.
I thought people should know.
Was anyone else really impressed with "Sooner?" It was never one of my favorite songs, but this is a very good version. "The Bear" is also very well done. I really beleived it was a concert for their friend Neil. It was possible given their schedule, so I beleived it. Am I alone. Anyone else fall for it?
Pingy is da man! Thanks for your very generous offer,dude! ;)
QuoteWas anyone else really impressed with "Sooner?" It was never one of my favorite songs, but this is a very good version. "The Bear" is also very well done. I really beleived it was a concert for their friend Neil. It was possible given their schedule, so I beleived it. Am I alone. Anyone else fall for it?
Maybe I haven't been paying enough attention. Who's Neil and why did you think it was a concern for him?
I've read various things about it, such as it was recorded at somebodys birthday party or it was recorded at Texas or Athens or that if you listen hard you can hear John Wayne playing the spoons in the background on 'The Bear' or Jim Morrison plays some flugle horn or that you can smell the barbeque smoke from the Simpsons cookout (but that's only on the 'scratc and sniff re-mix).
Enough already.
(OK I don't really know the score either)
.....and the band were nealing when they played because the place had a really low ceiling or Neil is their doctor and was concerned about problems with their circulation as they were knealing for so long and Mike the Manager was concerned about the circulation because you could only but the bloody thing in America.
(That is more than enough. Stop it now)
You're just guessing, aren't you?
Very possibly, but keep it to yourself.
ATTN greggy and jellyfish!
thanks for the props.
Jelly...yours was mailed on Sat.
greggy...yours will be mailed tonight.
peace.
greggy man you rule! 8)
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Jelly...yours was mailed on Sat.
greggy...yours will be mailed tonight.
In that case, you're a shite.
That WAS a joke Mr P ;)
I don't understand a single word of this topic anymore. ???
I think the clue is that nobody has a clue.
here's some vinyl news:
it will be out early next month on Badman Recording Co.
on high quality red vinyl and will have an extra track!
And will that one be available outside the US, perhaps?
QuoteAnd will that one be available outside the US, perhaps?
Badman ships around the world or once it's out you could check one of the distributors below:
UK and many parts of Europe- Shellshock
Scandanavia- Border
Italy- White and Black
Germany- Cargo
Netherlands- Konkurrent
France- Chronowax
Portugal- Sabotage
QuoteThat WAS a joke Mr P ;)
I know it was greggy. I couldn't get to the post office on Sat. hope you enjoy!
QuoteI think the clue is that nobody has a clue.
Stop giving out clues!
Ok greggy, but like this, you deny fellow mmj fans access to the most priviliged information.
And guess who got that information?
:-X
No frankly,
I don't have a clue neither.
At the start of all this nonsense I asked a simple question: Who is Neil and why might this EP be dedicated to him?
(I know, that's 2 questions, I never was very good at Maths)
Does anybody (anybody sensible, that is) know the answer?
QuoteAt the start of all this nonsense I asked a simple question: Who is Neil and why might this EP be dedicated to him?
(I know, that's 2 questions, I never was very good at Maths)
Does anybody (anybody sensible, that is) know the answer?
1) this is Neil:
(http://www.canoe.ca/EncyclopediaImagesY/young_neil_151.jpg)
2) you HAVE to know why if your on this site!
Yeah but I just didn't get this:
QuoteI really beleived it was a concert for their friend Neil. It was possible given their schedule, so I beleived it. Am I alone. Anyone else fall for it?
Never mind :)
You are never alone, but you are as clueless as I am in this matter. The people who really know won't tell us for reasons that I can't go into as it would involve giving clues then you wouldn't be clueless you'd be clued up as opposed to cluedo which might, or might not, be a board game which is a game where people get bored after a while as they look for clues which is where we came in...
The truth is out there........but we're stuck inside.
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Does anybody (anybody sensible, that is) know the answer?
What are you trying to say?
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1) this is Neil:
(http://www.canoe.ca/EncyclopediaImagesY/young_neil_151.jpg)
But is it THE Neil?
2) you HAVE to know why if your on this site!
Why? Is the answer in code somewhere else, under the mat for example?
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Badman ships around the world or once it's out you could check one of the distributors below:
UK and many parts of Europe- Shellshock
Scandanavia- Border
Italy- White and Black
Germany- Cargo
Netherlands- Konkurrent
France- Chronowax
Portugal- Sabotage
Hurray! Now I don't really care about Neil anymore. :)
Any idea what the extra track will be?
I don't know who Neil is either. I was referring to the inside of the album where someone refers to Neil. Maybe it is Neil Young. I want to remain clueless on this. I enjoy having no clue and being thus "clueless." It is not a bad state of mind on this matter. Hope that answers your question DOCTORINTHEHOUSE.
QuoteI don't know who Neil is either. I was referring to the inside of the album where someone refers to Neil. Maybe it is Neil Young. I want to remain clueless on this. I enjoy having no clue and being thus "clueless." It is not a bad state of mind on this matter. Hope that answers your question DOCTORINTHEHOUSE.
Thanks. Sorry for bothering you. No need to shout.
QuoteAny idea what the extra track will be?
I believe it's some song that involves carnival tents
Quote I was referring to the inside of the album where someone refers to Neil.
Which album are you referring to?
........and you don't need to shout 'greggy' - I'll manage to find your response by myself.
Sorry guys. didn't know it was such a sensitive crowd. I was referring to the album I thought we were referring to throughout the post. But, I am still clueless. Oh well. Peace.
Yo Link, it's alllllllll good.
Ah, okay, there's some referring to Neil in the innersleeve of Citsouaca? What is it? I'm gonna wait for the vinyl version to be released, so I don't have it yet.
QuoteAh, okay, there's some referring to Neil in the innersleeve of Citsouaca? .
A clue! Ye Gods, a giant step forward. We move forward out of the darkness. Slowly.
Ah, OK. Thanks so much O. Now I have a clue. But, I knew that part before. Does anyone really know who Neil is? C'mon, who's got it? And, was this a real concert in Braintree, MA? If so, why the hell wasn't I invited? Thanks.
QuoteAh, okay, there's some referring to Neil in the innersleeve of Citsouaca? What is it?
I got my copy today,Thanks Pingy!
There is no quote on my CD that says anything about "Neil".There is some reference to "Gordon" but I don't know who that is either.
I do not understand where this came from unless there are different versions released with different packaging.
Now the disc is great but short.
The one thing I noticed on mine is that on the back of the CD digi pack the song list is not in the same order on the disc but no big deal.
"The Bear" sounds great Jims voice is so awesome!
Here is what is written on my innersleeve:
How could we resist such an invitation.To gently and quietly play our friends halloween party.in our most favorite of cities,Braintree,Mass...so we rented out the Startime Pavillion,near downtown Braintree,invited his closest friends,and set the stage for a most enchanting night.The air was crisp,,the moon was high,and the champagne-delicious! We hope you enjoy listening to this moment in time as much as we enjoyed living it.
"Why? I don't have the time or intelligence to make all the connections.Like my friend Gordon(this is a true story)who,having grown up in Braintree,Massachusetts,had never pictured a brain snagged in a tree until I brought it up.He'd never broken the name down to it's parts.By then it was too late.He'd already moved to Coral Gabbles."
- David Berman
The first paragraph is not in quotations but the 2nd one is apparently credited to David Berman.
I hope this clears things up.
QuoteAh, OK. Thanks so much O. Now I have a clue. But, I knew that part before. Does anyone really know who Neil is? C'mon, who's got it? And, was this a real concert in Braintree, MA? If so, why the hell wasn't I invited? Thanks.
Hi Link,
It is my understanding that this show is in fact a hoax! A figment of the band's colective imagination! Whoda thunk!
Now, who brought Neil in this, why did that person do that, and who the hell is Neil anyway? The plot is thickening...
David Berman is the man behind the Silver Jews (an amazing band!), but is also an accomplished poet....the quote on the inner sleve is from one of his poems......check out his book of poetry called "Actual Air." Drag City's boook publishing side puts it out...
oh, and for all of those who were wondering, I DO have my degree in SPELLING!!!! it only took 7 years!!
Pingy
Mine arrived 2 minutes ago. Cheers mate!
Sorry everyone. It was I who brought Neil into this. I thought it would make a nice little topic to discuss. I hope you all enjoyed it.
I do love Neil.
Quote[I don't know who Neil is either. I was referring to the inside of the album where someone refers to Neil. Maybe it is Neil Young.
This is what confused everyone.There was no reference to Neil on my copy.Is your copy different?
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I do love Neil.
And so do I. Whoever he is :)
Fantastic disc-- could we expect anything less?
The Bear absolutely dominates.. great choice for the opening track. The production is excellent as well.
No, my copy says gordon. I just thought Neil went better. Sorry for the confusion. But, i do love neil.
Gothcha,and I love Neil as well.
http://p196.ezboard.com/brustedhighway
Just got my copy today and was very pleased to see Newbury Comics had a promotional poster right on the door for the CD. The boys are getting more and more notorious!!!!!!!!
http://theedge.bostonherald.com/musicNews/view.bg?articleid=29355
Startime in Braintree! My Morning Jacket gets mythical in Mass.
By Larry Katz
Wednesday, May 26, 2004
Who: My Morning Jacket
What: ``Acoustic Citsuoca,'' 5-song live EP
Where: The Startime Pavilion, Braintree
When: Oct. 31, 2003
Why: Because the band's buddy, former Braintree resident Gordon, asked them to play at his Halloween party.
My Morning Jacket is known for spacey guitar rock, long hair and a relentless touring schedule, which includes WBCN-FM's 10th annual River Rave at the Tweeter Center on Sunday.
But it's no surprise that Jim James, leader of the sensitive Southern rockers, clearly recalls the band's acoustic show at the Startime Pavilion. For the Louisville, Ky., native, it was truly a dream gig.
``It was my friend Gordon's party,'' James says. ``I know him from grade school in Louisville, but he moved up to Braintree. It's one of the best-named places in the world.
``It was at this neat little pavilion,'' he continues. ``There were trees around it and Christmas lights and candles. Just a laid-back affair. It was a Halloween party, but most people showed up in normal clothes, which was kinda disappointing. But, yeah, there were people in costume. My favorite was the guy who came as a No. 1 pencil.''
Why play acoustic?
``They wanted music that wouldn't be overwhelming,'' James replies. ``Like if it was a big loud rock thing, it would have taken over the whole vibe of the event.''
The resulting EP, ``Acoustic Citsuoca'' (``It's `acoustic' backwards,'' explains James, ``but I don't ever actually say it out loud''), offers songs from My Morning Jacket's three full-length CDs, including its recent ``It Still Moves.'' But beyond providing an atypical miniretrospective, James says it is a nod of appreciation to both Massachusetts and the five-piece band's two newly departed members.
``I love your fair land,'' James says. ``Whenever we play in Massachusetts, the crowd is notably more excited than in other places. It's really weird. I don't know if it's something in the air, something in the drinking water or what, but there's something about Massachusetts and people going nuts. And it really makes a difference to the people onstage. It makes you play better and play harder and put more into it when people go nuts.
``I've wondered about it many times.'' James, who's speaking to me from a Native American-themed Ramada Inn with a view of the Mall of America in Minnesota, laughs. ``I think maybe you guys are just off the hook, as we say in gangsta talk.''
Massachusetts fans will get their first look at My Morning Jacket's new lineup at the River Rave. James' cousin, guitarist Johnny Quiad, and keyboardist Danny Cash quit the band and were replaced in February by guitarist Carl Broemel and keyboardist Bo Koster.
``We saw it coming,'' James says of the departures, ``but it was still surprising, still sad. They were just miserable. All the touring we do can just grind you down. I don't like to talk bad about touring, because I am very grateful. Lots of people want to do this and don't get to. But it can be grueling.
``Johnny and Danny just couldn't stand it. I saw Johnny out in California a week ago and he looked so happy and healthy. He's living with his girlfriend and working on becoming a carpenter. And Danny opened a toy store, weird gift store in Louisville, which is really cool.
``So this is probably the last recording that will ever come out that has Johnny and Danny playing on it,'' James says. ``It's a goodbye note in a way, a sentimental thing. That was one of the happier times we had with those guys.''
Before James can say any more, I feel compelled to point out that no one in Braintree has ever heard of the Startime Pavilion. While ``Acoustic Citsuoca'' is a genuine live recording, the circumstances of its recording seem entirely bogus.
``Well,'' James says, ``the Startime Pavilion was only open for one show. They tore it down after we played because we rocked so hard.''
Rocked hard acoustically?
``Yeah, the structure couldn't take the impact of the rock, so they had to level it because of public safety concerns.''
But I've been informed by a source close to the band that ``Acoustic Citsuoca'' was not recorded in Braintree or anywhere in Massachusetts. And that James has no friend named Gordon.
Can we agree to call the Startime Pavilion show a mythical gig?
``The mythical word is kinda weird,'' James says. ``It makes me think of Roman architecture. Let's just call it a Roman architecture gig.''
( The WBCN River Rave with My Morning Jacket, the Offspring, P.O.D., the Darkness, Everlast, the Distillers and others, Sunday at 1 p.m. at the Tweeter Center. Tickets are $35-$65. Call 617-228-6000. )
I love that story. :D
http://www.eye.net/eye/issue/issue_05.27.04/music/ondisc.html
MY MORNING JACKET
Acoustic Citsuoca EP ATO Records/RCA
A five-track live set recorded last Halloween in Braintree, Massachusetts, Acoustic Citsuoca is a pastoral relief after the full-tilt boogie-ballast of My Morning Jacket's last LP, It Still Moves. Instead of blustering on like The Passion of the Duane Allman, the band revisit some of their beauteous old ballads, and you can almost hear the cicadas warbling along. MMJ's remarkable singer, Jim James, is often compared to Neil Young, but he's more in the tradition of great Southern mumblers like Gene Clark and Michael Stipe. Marks are deducted for James' occasional R&B-style syllabic onanism -- on "The Bear," he sings "forever" as "fuh-eruv-err-aaooww-urrrgh" -- but for a Hallow's Eve gig, the scares are remarkably few. PAUL ISAACS
My Morning Jacket play the Opera House May 28.
Now that is one cool review! Sure, it's critical, but at least it's more than just 'yeah, it's great' or 'nah, it sucks'. And ofcourse the mentioning of Michael Stipe had me smiling. :)
QuoteNow that is one cool review! Sure, it's critical, but at least it's more than just 'yeah, it's great' or 'nah, it sucks'. And ofcourse the mentioning of Michael Stipe had me smiling. :)
Hey, did anyone ever tell you that you look like Stipe in your pic?? ;)
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Hey, did anyone ever tell you that you look like Stipe in your pic?? ;)
;D
Anybody picking up the vinyl version of AC next month? I haven't had a 'red' vinyl album since people said 'groovy.'
I haven't picked it up on disc yet, but surely will. There's something mystical about a MMJ show on Halloween. Especially when they're playing "THE BEAR." :o That was the first MMJ song that I ever heard and boy what an introduction.
Stopped off at the wine shop yesterday afternoon and they were giving out samples of that new Aspen "low carb" beer that Coors is using Mahgeetah for in commercials. Actually, not alot of flavor...even ice cold. :(
Happy weekend my new friends !
"Im in love with this soul, it's a meaning that I understand."
I still don't have this EP, I'm waiting for the vinyl edition.
QuoteI still don't have this EP, I'm waiting for the vinyl edition.
So, how are the vinyls sounding these days?
I have plenty from the 60s-90s, but haven't bought anything other than CDs for the past 10+ years.
Personally, I love the sound of vinyl. It's such a warm sound, and especially stuff like MMJ deserves a rich, warm vinyl-sound. CDs have just a tiny bit of a cleaner sound.
Yeah, it's only an EP, but is anybody else surprised that this hasn't been at the top of anybody's "Top Albums of the Year" list? Man, this disc is AMAZING!
Oh my lord, this is retarded. Why is it so good?
Now, just to open up old news, what's the deal? Is this actually from a real show, or is it like when Gram and the band played Montreal? (ie, not true)
Not that I care. It doesn't matter.
From my understanding and according to our local record store(ear-x-tacy),that it was a fake show put together from various live performances.But it's still a great sounding live disc and well worth having.
Aha. Thanks antoniostrohs. You're right. It's very worth having.
And I think it's okay to lie about stuff being recorded all at once, but ONLY if you say it was on Hallowe'en. I'll reconsult my lawbook, but I'm pretty sure that's the deal. ;)