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Title: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: primushead on Aug 24, 2005, 02:56 PM
Pitchfork has (overall) been pretty kind to MMJ with its reviews (except giving at dawn a 7.1?!?!  WTF mate?)  Anyway, Pitchfork (at least from my point of view) has a reputation for reading WAY to much into the music and basically shunning it completely if it isn't up to their standards.  ISM did well with them (8.3 i think) so...how well do you think 'Z' will do?  I'm afraid they might brand it as 'mmj's attempt at mainstream' (even though I haven't even heard the album) and give it shit.  What do ya'll think?
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: realdeal on Aug 24, 2005, 02:59 PM
i enjoy pitchfork media for their honest reviews. they usually don't shy from telling it how it really sounds. i'd imagine they will rate 'Z' around 8.5 give or take a few tenths.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: primushead on Aug 24, 2005, 07:04 PM
Quotei enjoy pitchfork media for their honest reviews. they usually don't shy from telling it how it really sounds. i'd imagine they will rate 'Z' around 8.5 give or take a few tenths.

True...I'd imagine about 8 or above as well.  
Title: some advance insight
Post by: alex on Aug 24, 2005, 09:11 PM
excerpted from: http://pitchforkmedia.com/news/05-08/12.shtml#mmj

"Need we remind you that the band's next album, Z, drops on October 4? Nah, didn't think so. How about the fact that it fucking rules? You knew that, too."
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: sweatboard on Aug 24, 2005, 09:58 PM
I like reading Pitchfork, I read it almost every day, but I could really care less what they rank it.  They have given some of my favorite albums 0's or 0.something.  I would actually rather they rate it a 0.3 than a 6 or 7, at least a 0.3 is interesting.  A 0.3 creates a stir, people are like "oh my god what does a 0.3 sound like, I've really got to hear what could possibly suck this bad."  A 6 or 7 just warrants "Oh, MMJ put out a new album that's nice, I'll probably half listen to it once on my I-Pod and if anyone asks me If I've heard the new MMJ record I can say "Yeah man it's really good, not as good as that Franz Ferdianand LP but what is Right!." ;)    
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: TheLink on Aug 25, 2005, 01:06 PM
what is this business about them joining forces with some big cororate company.  heard a quick blurb, but is this a bad sign or good?  any thoughts?  not that they haven't been pretty mainstreem for awhile, just don't want them being influenced too much by outside sources.  Not that Ryan doesn't probably dictate what gets what for ratings.
banmds they love:
MMJ-so far
Broken Social Scene-bigtime
Arcade Fire-who would bash that album
Neil Young
who are my missing?
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: sweatboard on Aug 25, 2005, 04:53 PM
Franz Ferdinand
The Strokes
Belle and Sabastian

Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: primushead on Aug 25, 2005, 09:58 PM
Talking Heads and Radiohead
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: TheLink on Aug 26, 2005, 08:57 AM
Well, they do have ok taste.  Sorry sweatboard, but what do you see in Interpol?  I have listened, learned, and walked away from them.  Can you offer me anything I am missing in the music?  To me it seems very generic.  I just thought you may know because of your logo. ;)
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: DJ Poops on Aug 29, 2005, 10:08 AM
http://pitchforkmedia.com/tracks/05-08-29.shtml

My Morning Jacket: "Wordless Chorus"
genre: rock

Wherein stringy-haired So-Rock yokels pull one darkly electronic miracle. Intros can be misleading, but this one ensures the foundation-- growling sub-bass, drums canned tight, staccato Rhodes flickering against darkness-- then grows like Mr. Beanstalk. MMJ used to steep its whole package in commodious reverb, but here vocalist Jim James bathes solo while the band stays dry. The spare, burbly groove is thin enough for a howling James to swallow whole, his vocal features surely some of the most cavernous man-made sounds ever committed to tape. Hurricane lovers, check the stormy, immersive denouement: It's a Category 5.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: primushead on Aug 29, 2005, 10:11 AM
Yeah, I actually just finished reading that...sounds like pitchfork has been taken for a journey into the MMJ world.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: sweatboard on Aug 29, 2005, 10:16 AM
So was that good or bad  ???  Sometimes Pitchfork writters are more concerned with making clever metaphores and displaying there super awesome writting skills than actually reviewing the music.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: peanut butter puddin surprise on Aug 29, 2005, 10:17 AM
It's hard to say anything really bad about Pitchfork.  At least in public.  I'm not so swell on their reviews per se...I did get really sick of the GBV bashing they did.  Jesus, how many Bee Thousand's can one man put out?  I just hope they don't do that to MMJ-"it doesn't sound like TTF" or some shit.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: primushead on Aug 29, 2005, 10:19 AM
QuoteSo was that good or bad  ???  Sometimes Pitchfork writters are more concerned with making clever metaphores and displaying there super awesome writting skills than actually reviewing the music.

Well, they gave a star rating after the article.  I think it got 4.5 out of 5...which, by pitchfork standards, is very good.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: primushead on Aug 29, 2005, 10:20 AM
Oh, and sweat, I like the 'a good pair of headphones and weed will help' quote.  It sounds like something I'd say. ;D
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: peanut butter puddin surprise on Aug 29, 2005, 10:22 AM
and Sweatboard-I'm a bit confused by "their swell writing skills".  Shakespeare they ain't... ;)
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: primushead on Aug 29, 2005, 10:26 AM
Quoteand Sweatboard-I'm a bit confused by "their swell writing skills".  Shakespeare they ain't... ;)

But look at their metaphors, John, their metaphors!! If that isn't swell, I don't know what is. :D
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: peanut butter puddin surprise on Aug 29, 2005, 10:32 AM
Quote

But look at their metaphors, John, their metaphors!! If that isn't swell, I don't know what is. :D

Like sands through the hour glass, so our the Days of Our Lives... :)


Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: primushead on Aug 29, 2005, 11:56 AM
Touche
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: erayjackson on Aug 29, 2005, 12:51 PM
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/tracks/05-08-29.shtml

Glowing track review for Wordless Chorus.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: primushead on Aug 29, 2005, 12:54 PM
Did you not get the memo?  :) Check out page 1.  But thanks for the post anywho.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: erayjackson on Aug 29, 2005, 01:22 PM
Oops. Sorry. I thought I read the whole thread. My fault.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: TheLink on Aug 29, 2005, 01:34 PM
you're a fucking spy.  leave this site now! ;)
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: peanut butter puddin surprise on Aug 29, 2005, 02:01 PM
it's all good in da hood.  
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: Oz on Aug 29, 2005, 02:32 PM
Err, does Pitchfork reviewing the track mean that it's somehow legally released, or that it will be the next single, or something? Or do they just review random tracks of illegal albums floating around on the internet?  ???
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: EC on Aug 29, 2005, 02:51 PM
Quotehttp://pitchforkmedia.com/tracks/05-08-29.shtml

My Morning Jacket: "Wordless Chorus"
genre: rock

Wherein stringy-haired So-Rock yokels pull one darkly electronic miracle. Intros can be misleading, but this one ensures the foundation-- growling sub-bass, drums canned tight, staccato Rhodes flickering against darkness-- then grows like Mr. Beanstalk. MMJ used to steep its whole package in commodious reverb, but here vocalist Jim James bathes solo while the band stays dry. The spare, burbly groove is thin enough for a howling James to swallow whole, his vocal features surely some of the most cavernous man-made sounds ever committed to tape. Hurricane lovers, check the stormy, immersive denouement: It's a Category 5.


I would say that's a good review.  Except for the stringy-haired part.  Long, yes.  Wild, sure.  Stringy?  No.

It's a very descriptive review.  Quite timely, too.

sonuvaBITCH I am so tired of hearing about the new songs.  I mean, I'm not.  I just want to hear them.  

Maybe I should start writing for music magazines...  ;)
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: erayjackson on Aug 29, 2005, 08:49 PM
QuoteErr, does Pitchfork reviewing the track mean that it's somehow legally released, or that it will be the next single, or something? Or do they just review random tracks of illegal albums floating around on the internet?  ???

They have been known to review leaked songs and/or albums from time to time. Depends on how anticipated it is.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: primushead on Aug 29, 2005, 09:31 PM
I think it's a good review.  Go to the site and look at the stars above the rating.  4.5 is good as hell.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: sweatboard on Aug 29, 2005, 09:52 PM
QuoteOh, and sweat, I like the 'a good pair of headphones and weed will help' quote.  It sounds like something I'd say. ;D

I like it to......

A good pair of headphones
and the stuff in this bag
are the two best lovers
that I've ever had
Now if you find you agree
with what I just said
you better find you some jacket
and let em' into your head.

"Quick Everyone Make A Wish"
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: EC on Aug 29, 2005, 09:56 PM
What is that, Mr. sweatboard?
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: darkglow on Aug 29, 2005, 10:03 PM
i'm sure pitchfork got a hold of one of the promo cds that are floating around out there.. i've heard of more than a dozen radio stations that have been playing the new tracks lately.. as in.. the completed versions not the leaked ones.. WOXY had "off the record" in it's top 20.

i also think you guys are not realizing that october 4th is slipping closer and closer. they could drop a single on us any day now.   8)
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: EC on Aug 29, 2005, 10:08 PM
Sure, they could do a single.  But a bunch of slow dance songs?  They probably won't happen before the special date.  :)

Do they really mean that?  Are there slow songs?

Fuck, don't tell me.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: sweatboard on Aug 29, 2005, 10:08 PM
QuoteWhat is that, Mr. sweatboard?


My Posts are at 1111 and my wish was that you would come to the Nashville show.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: EC on Aug 29, 2005, 10:14 PM
QuoteMy Posts are at 1111 and my wish was that you would come to the Nashville show.
:)

I'll wish for that, too.  Maybe I'll find a penny on the street tomorrow...
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: sweatboard on Aug 29, 2005, 10:16 PM
Did you know that "The Pennny Arcade" is a music venue in New York State?
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: darkglow on Aug 29, 2005, 10:23 PM
interesting

"story 'bout the things that i'd say it'll make it up to you at the penny arcade!!"
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: sweatboard on Aug 29, 2005, 10:24 PM
I believe it's "Sorry bout the things that I had to say, but I'll make it up to you right now at The Penny Arcade"
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: darkglow on Aug 29, 2005, 10:26 PM
*humiliation*

opening that booklet full of lyrics will be a prize in itself.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: sweatboard on Aug 29, 2005, 10:34 PM
No, it does sound like "Story bout" It took me a while to get it.  I really can't wait for the lyrics.  There are so many things I'm curious about.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: Chills on Aug 30, 2005, 04:32 AM
QuoteSo was that good or bad  ???  Sometimes Pitchfork writters are more concerned with making clever metaphores and displaying there super awesome writting skills than actually reviewing the music.

I couldn't agree more. They can write, however sometimes less is more. I don't really get their overloaded style. Sounds like a bunch of show-offs to me, trying to hard to sound cooler/smarter than you.

"Wherein stringy-haired So-Rock yokels pull one darkly electronic miracle".

"So-rock yokels"  ??? What the hell is that about?
Don't take yourselves that seriously guys, you're not the all-knowing center of the universe (that's still me, I'm sorry  ;D).

after reading their overblown stuff I just want to play some AC/DC!
"I am hot, and when I'm not, I'm cold as ice"

Now those are writing skills.

Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: peanut butter puddin surprise on Aug 30, 2005, 06:03 AM
man in blue, it's up to you...

I agree, their writing "style" is a bit on the pontification side.  They also heap praise like Astroglide, and criticize like Epicak.  There's no middle ground, really, it's either a total insert-your-favorite-sexual-metaphor-here (ha! insert) or a vomitous diatribe extolling the horror that is something they disdain.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: primushead on Aug 30, 2005, 11:41 AM
Quote

it's either a total insert-your-favorite-sexual-metaphor-here (ha! insert).

LoL!! You said insert!! :)
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: peanut butter puddin surprise on Aug 30, 2005, 11:42 AM
Quote

LoL!! You said insert!! :)

hence the "astroglide" reference... ;)
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: EC on Aug 30, 2005, 01:21 PM
astroglide always reminds me of astroboy, so I always sing "Astrogliiiide, astrogliiiide, he is brave and ..." in my head whenever someone mentions it.

heh.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: primushead on Aug 30, 2005, 08:14 PM
Quote

hence the "astroglide" reference... ;)

Oh, now i see......boobies! :)
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: wellfleet on Aug 30, 2005, 10:08 PM
astroglide-ing the inside of a teammate's hockey skates is one of my bestest ever pranks... it's so... slippery... i submit astroglide wrestling as a new olympic sport.
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: primushead on Aug 31, 2005, 10:08 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the 4th thread that mentions astroglide? ::)
Title: Re: Pitchfork Prediction?
Post by: peanut butter puddin surprise on Aug 31, 2005, 10:34 AM
QuoteCorrect me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the 4th thread that mentions astroglide? ::)


shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..... ;)