Maybe you guys have already discussed this but what do you think about the video for this song. I thought it was pretty cool. Wish the band could have been seen more though.
I haven't seen it. Where did you check it out? Do you have a link for it?
Yeah,I would like to see it too...link?
Sorry, I figured all you guys would have seen this by now. It is a pretty cool video. See if this link works.
http://music.yahoo.com/ar-293829---My-Morning-Jacket
Go to the music video section and play.
Hadn't seen that before. Thanks for the link. Really unusual. I like it. Will have to look up the lyrics and think about it.
interesting video, kind of scary at times. thanks for posting the link
man, i can't see this on my mac. it says i need netscape something or other and then that won't load. i really want to see this. bummer :-/
haha wtf is this video...really crazy stuff. love jimbo gardening when the woman is running down the street are the rest of the guys in the video? i wan't watching close enough plus am multi-tasking at the moment
damn, i hate netscape. i think its worse that IE. am i stuck now? ???
I can't watch either:'(....what the hell is Netscape?
i tried it on firefox and it came up with that netscape bs and then i tried it on ie and it worked just fine.
i dont think firefox will play it at all. IE didnt for me on the first try, but the next time i tried, it worked perfectly fine.
WTF?!! Not what I was expecting at all! Interesting...
Thanks for posting :)
ok, if your on a mac, i think you HAVE to use Internet Explorer, because you need the OS-9 system to be able to use Netscape 4.7
for some reason, nothing is working for me. oh well, i can try it on a friend's PC tomorrow. explorer keeps telling me i need netscape. i don't get it....
i totally thought it was too. and the video sounds so interesting! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/embercat/beehive-emoticon.gif)
it's here to stay! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/embercat/beehive-emoticon.gif)
cheeeeeeesy. i mean, at least its not the bad lip-synching the song, but i dont care for it. i dont really like most music videos though. i think my biggest complaint is it takes away from the atmosphere of the song.
it doesn't really take away for me, it just adds an alternate atmosphere that isn't necessary and usually sucks and brings the song down...people who relate to songs through their respective videos suck as human beings
Quoteit doesn't really take away for me, it just adds an alternate atmosphere that isn't necessary and usually sucks and brings the song down...people who relate to songs through their respective videos suck as human beings
well i guess its pretty much because i loathe tv and movies, so i see music and cinema as two different entities, even though they can and do work together. i already relate to the song from the song since ive been listening to it since june. i just dont think the video adds anything to the listening experience ive been enjoying for 3 months now. ill suck as a human being, though, if it makes you feel better about yourself. ::)
I wish I could get it to play. Anyone have an alternative link ???
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ill suck as a human being, though, if it makes you feel better about yourself. ::)
uhhh you don't suck though...cuz you're doing everything right...relating to the music because of the music....you obviously didn't read or understand exactly what i said
So...what the hell is the meaning of the video? Someone tells a secret and their supposed to keep it 'off the record' and then everyone gets arrested? oh well...good song anyway.
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uhhh you don't suck though...cuz you're doing everything right...relating to the music because of the music....you obviously didn't read or understand exactly what i said
probably didnt read it all the way, but ill pre-emptively admit i suck because well, sometimes i do! :D
Holy crap, that is a terrible video. I'm not watching that ever again. It reminds of that terrible Bright Eyes Video for "First Day of My Life". One Big Holiday seemed a lot more like them then that did... but whatever I guess.
I expect this kind of crap from Whinny Connor Oberst, but not from my favorite band. good god this is a lame video.
well, i finally watched it. hmmm.
it's weird.. but fun to watch.. jimmy looks like a random bum
Hello. I'm a longtime fan and lurker. This video has inspired me to break my silence - what the hell is going on? It's so bad, so, so bad. I don't know what they were going for with this video.
Hey Deanna - good to have you aboard!
Reading the posts no one really loves it, do they?
One things for sure, I really don't think the band have done themselves any favours.
I wonder how invloved they were in the decision making process?
Do you think the band like it?
i dont know what the hell you all are talking about, but i thought it was awesome...music videos these days are bad and not much emphasis is put on them anyway...but this reminds me of a joke i used to tell when i was a kid...a boy hears the word, "snickerdoodle" and goes around asking random people what it means...everytime he asks someone they flip out and the boy doesnt know why...maybe my joke got around to the dude that made the video..but i gotta watch that again...
Thank you for the welcome. :)
It just seems like such standard fare. I expect cooler things from the band. That leads me to believe that they may have not been completely involved in the 'creative' process.
But who knows? I'd love to hear their thoughts about it. I wonder if this will get played on tv a lot.
if they did this video right it could really propel the band into the stratosphere. the way the music video system and music industry work off eachother and the way this band is being hyped right now (for all the right reasons...the music) they are prime to be a candidate for an amazing video that will have them blowing up. they always have the option of doing a different video for the song i guess...
How did yahoo get a hold of the video before the official site did? It seems the band would've posted it here first....
i've gotten used to the fact that us MMJ fans are kept out of the dark about alot of things
I tried too and got an error message saying the video was unavailable. oh well, maybe later...
I like the idea, it just wasn't shot or edited very well. It's like one of those movies that really makes you think but you have no desire to watch over and over again. It makes it's point and once you see the point there isn't much left to enjoy about it. It really made me think about our current government and media situation. It also made me think about technology and how information travels so fast these days as well as mainstream vs. underground. etc. etc. I liked it, and to back up what a few people said, at least they didn't go the Audioslave route and have the band play on a roof with a bunch of pro lighting and fireworks going off. I think the band sees video as just another opportunity to make art instead of another marketing opportunity. I think this is a good thing. I also agree that I have come to expect a little more from the band, it didn't exactly blow me away but then again niether did the video for One Big Holliday. They need to let whoever did those little promos for It Still Moves and Z do thier videos, that is some amazing stuff.
i like the flaming lips approach to making music videos. They're weird enough that they're actually good. Hopefully the Jacket will never turn to music videos as a necessary art form, but as just a peripheral to the music. Something to be enjoyed a bit tongue-in-cheekishly, like the Flaming Lips videos. She Don't Use Jelly, anyone?
I just watched the video and I don't really like it. It's so common. The message is being repeated during the first two and a half minute, which is way to long. It has no balls and not so much creativity. In fact I find it a little bit childish.
I never try to be negative on the band, because honestly, I didn't have anything negative to say so far, but all I can say now is that I hope this is not the official video.
Maybe they need an Anton Corbijn or a Romarek to do their next video. I always liked their video clips, especially Hurt by Johnny Cash.
Nevertheless, what's important is the music, and I still like it very much.
I got to watch three or four soda commercials, but no video. Yahoo my ass.
Quote Yahoo my ass.
That's what SHE said 8)
Quoteman, i can't see this on my mac. it says i need netscape something or other and then that won't load. i really want to see this. bummer :-/
Don't waste your time. Worthless video. What was the point of making this nonsense.
I'm not so sure what the big deal is, it's just a video. Have you guys been watching what passes for music videos these days? This is leagues better than most. They can't all be "Video Killed the Radio Star", now can they? ;)
I like it...kinda Invasion of the Body Snatchers or some sci fi shit
QuoteI'm not so sure what the big deal is, it's just a video. Have you guys been watching what passes for music videos these days? This is leagues better than most. They can't all be "Video Killed the Radio Star", now can they? ;)
I hear what you're saying John, it is just a video but it's a MMJ video! That's why it's a big deal, isn't it?
We all love MMJ & therefore we're interested in anything & everything that they do both good & bad, that's why we're here posting, right?
So Z is just another CD release?
I always remember Kurt Cobain going on about how much he hated the video for Teen Spirit & how he felt it was such a huge waste of money.
I would really like to know how involved the band were & whether they like it or not?
let's all make a petition for a new video.. i'm serious
this song deserves a better visual representation
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It reminds me of the Street Spirit (Fade Out) video. But that just might be people in suits.
no see, i love the street spirit video, hands down. radiohead consistently make fucking excellent videos. björk does too. they need chris cunningham to make their video, now that would freak the fuck out of us all, but in a good way. :D
my point was that the videos aren't all epic masterpieces like the music is. it is a delivery system for the masterpieces...
videos don't mean much these days to anyone, but that doesn't mean that we can't be disappointed by their video. Unfortunately I haven't seen the video yet because the link sucks, but I was disappointed by the 'One Big Holiday' video. The alternative video was way better and that guy didn't even have permission to shoot it. My point is, I always imagined that mmj would make some great videos when they reached that status, but so far it doesn't seem to be the case. And I know the music is way more important but I do enjoy videos from the likes of Radiohead, Beck, Bjork, and others. Cameron Crowe obviously sees a cinematic quality to their music, but I don't think their videos are doing them any favors.
Quotevideos don't mean much these days to anyone, but that doesn't mean that we can't be disappointed by their video. Unfortunately I haven't seen the video yet because the link sucks, but I was disappointed by the 'One Big Holiday' video. The alternative video was way better and that guy didn't even have permission to shoot it. My point is, I always imagined that mmj would make some great videos when they reached that status, but so far it doesn't seem to be the case. And I know the music is way more important but I do enjoy videos from the likes of Radiohead, Beck, Bjork, and others. Cameron Crowe obviously sees a cinematic quality to their music, but I don't think their videos are doing them any favors.
I quite agree.
I don't watch music TV myself but I can't imagine anyone (other than MMJ fans) having seen the video once talking about it afterwards or looking foward to seeing it again.
i absolutely love the old beastie boys dvds.. very trippy and weird and spacy but still very imaginative and cool.. i'd expect something like that from MMJ.. not this
Quotei absolutely love the old beastie boys dvds.. very trippy and weird and spacy but still very imaginative and cool.. i'd expect something like that from MMJ.. not this
ok that reminds me spike jonze could do a fucking excellent video for them. am i the only one envisioning some kind of spastic mind fuck during the keyboard breakdown of this song? the only thing i liked about this video is it stopped before it got to that point.
glad SOMEONE agrees.. maybe they'll get on the horn and call him tommorrow
Quoteglad SOMEONE agrees.. maybe they'll get on the horn and call him tommorrow
if we can find his number, lets pass it on the band, eh?
here's a thought!
why not have Crowe direct it?
Quotehere's a thought!
why not have Crowe direct it?
dude, my moneys on chris cunningham or spike jonze. either one of them could turn a linkin park video in to something captivating. ;)
Okay.
I've watched this a few times, now. Because I couldn't quite get it at first.
So, I've mentioned that I've noticed themes. I think this video trails on one of them.
1. funky dance soul music (obvious references)
2. fucked up world
I'll expound on 2.
First, I don't think that most of what I think is literal, nor do I think it's a good thing to think too much on stuff. Your initial gut reaction generally is the one you go back to, and usually, for me, it isn't really something I can talk about.
So. I think, like everyone else, I was expecting something along the lines of the sneaky peek at z little video. Which is AWESOME. It's informative, cinematically it's totally interesting and snazzy, it's full of small details which I love, and it has a good soundtrack. ;)
Obviously, this video is not like that. And, I don't think it's supposed to be.
As soon as I saw the cover for Z, and heard a few things from interviews and stuff, I started thinking that the next phase might include socio/political commentary.
And I think that's exactly what this video is about. It's not flashy. It's not "cool" or full of weirdo stuff that normally I love. It's a statement of some sort.
I haven't entirely figured out the song Off The Record yet, let alone the video. But gut feelings make me think it's about integrity. And secrets.
I mean whatever, I know that's all tremendously obvious and I'm not a big Sherlock Holmes here.
But I wonder. If you're a thinking kind of a person (and I think Jim and the boys are all like that) then you have ideas and opinions about things. Maybe about the state of the world. And you have an opportunity that most don't have - to express your opinion and have it be heard.
Just a small interjection to remind people that this is my opinion.
This video makes me think about destroying evidence, about not being honest, about being observed by big brother, about kids having been exposed to crazy shit, about anti-depressents and drug/bandaids.
And then I think about the cover of Z. The owls (which are wise creatures in lore) are dissecting the city which is full of organs. Owls have wings, and these owls' wings are also fingers/hands. Little organ people/machines are whizzing through the city.
That makes me think about an interview or two (maybe from Patrick and maybe from Jim and maybe both, I can't remember) where they're talking about how Z was kind of about the state of the world, and their reaction to that, and how they were trying to remain positive about it all.
So maybe this video is meant to be thought out a little. It's not a flashy, cool, rockstar video. It's supposed to make you think.
If it's true that this record will bring on board a whole new level of people who may not understand why a person could fall in love with At Dawn, then that's cool. They may not get the point of the Off The Record video. I don't even think I "get" the point of the Off The Record video. But it's certainly made me think.
My Morning Jacket is not a band that needs flashy sexy videos to get people to listen to them. We, all of us here, already know that. Just because we're here.
This is possibly the most random, all-over-the-place, non-conclusive post I've ever done. But that's the state I'm in in my half-heard Z, post It Still Moves, post Southern Road trip state.
And I'm okay with that. I think this video is meant to be something more than the general video you'll see.
Because I already know that these boys create amazing things, I don't belive that they would make some half-assed, boring video just because. That's why I watched it more and tried to think about it more.
Again, just my opinion. I don't need a flashy sexy video from them. I get that from their music and their shows. ;)
megan you have to remember that most people will be seeing this on television so it would take them months to analyze this like that.. i was just kinda hoping for a more fun video because this is a fun tune
Quotemegan you have to remember that most people will be seeing this on television so it would take them months to analyze this like that.. i was just kinda hoping for a more fun video because this is a fun tune
I know, honey. I was, too. But in a way, I'm kind of glad that I had to go back and watch it a bunch. I don't really see this band as a "hit" band, although, certainly, they have many hits in meganworld. They don't really compete with a (fuck, what is even popular now, I have no idea) let's say a Beck video, because they're even beyond that dude. I love Beck, don't get me wrong, and I even dig his new video.
So, let's examine the alternative. We love the sneaky z. But that was honest videotaping of stuff as it happened.
Do you want to see Jim lip synching? I don't. I hate that shit. Do you want to see Tom pretending to play bass, and Patrick pretending to play drums, and Bo pretending to play his snazzy as fuck keyboarding styles, and Carl pretending to play guitar? I don't.
We're all aware that the dudes have cool people who can make cool-ass shit if they wanted. And that's what makes me think this is not what they wanted for this.
Or, and let me say this as I always do, I'm totally wrong, and I've made a big misinterpreting mistake.
The thing that I think about Off The Record is that, sure, it's a fun tune. But it's way more than that. I don't really see it as some rebellious band thing where the dudes are going "We're gonna do what we fuckin' want, asshole, because we're original and we're fucking the shit."
They are the shit. They don't need to talk about it. They make music that they like, and that's all there is to it.
Anyhow, I'm off on a damn tangent again.
i've said it before and i'll say it again.. a true MMJ music video should be full of live footage with other stuff thrown in.. hell, if you had the whole video clip of "steam engine" from bonnaroo 2004 it would be one of the most watched videos EVER
yeah, by fans, not potential fans. videos aren't just masturbation sessions for the already converted-they are for reaching out to new fans. that's what this video is for, other than some sort of cinematic expression (i'm guessing). it's a good video.
i still say one word describes it best.
craptacular
or
recockulous
Quotei've said it before and i'll say it again.. a true MMJ music video should be full of live footage with other stuff thrown in.. hell, if you had the whole video clip of "steam engine" from bonnaroo 2004 it would be one of the most watched videos EVER
where can i get that video clip?
There's a link on the first page of this thread. About half way down.
QuoteThere's a link on the first page of this thread. About half way down.
no, the bonnarroo clip that darkglow was talking about.
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no, the bonnarroo clip that darkglow was talking about.
Oops! I don't know. The one on the streams link is just audio, isn't it? Darkglow, have you got it?
wow that video was fucking horrible. Not even showing the band at all?? I think this was a bad idea, the band is all about their energy and rockin' out, so why just show a bunch of ppl whispering to eachother? Probably THE WORST video i've ever seen, hope they don't actually show this on TV. What a load of crap, I'm really dissapointed that they don't even show the new lineup jamming out to the song, not even once?! WTF?
I posted before reading everyone's responses, I thought I would catch hell for bashing, so i'm glad to see others felt the same way. It's not even just the fact that the band isn't at all featured, but the way it was filmed was just awful as well...
I thought the one big holiday video was awesome, the offical one. It had this really raw look to it, and the short clips of the band jamming really rocked, and it showed just enough of the band to draw you in w/out showing too much. This video however was just total crap...
I really wish MMJ the best of luck, and I really would like to see them get some serious attention and success. Not many ppl, from at least my area, even know who the band is. I really wanted to see this album propel them into the center stage and really draw some attention. With videos like this, I don't see that happening. I'm sure the reviews of the album are going to be pretty decent, and I'm sure they will only get bigger...I was just really hoping to see the boys on TV w/ a video that just came out of nowhere, and a video that showed them rocking out and give everyone a taste of what this band is about...this video doesn't even show you what they look like, how they play, how much energy they have...the conan performance and hopefully the elizabethtown slot will show ppl how great this band is, cause this video won't see the time of day on tv that's for damn sure.
I stumbled upon MMJ and if it wasn't for a random show right in my area i never would have gotten into this band. I saw them one time and i was hooked, and i didn't even know any of the songs they played that night, it was all pretty much first listens and i was blown away by the energy and the great sound. People aren't going to know what kind of band they are with a video like this.
I am kinda overreacting, this isn't the worst video i've ever seen, but being such a huge fan of this band i was dissapointed that they aren't in it. I really preach about this band to all my friends and even family about how great they are...and it's a shame that we are in an age where if a band isn't on mtv they aren't any good. I was really hoping to just shove it up their ass when MMJ drops on everyone like an iron fist. If ppl don't hear it on the radio, or see it on tv, they won't give it a chance, someone on tv has to say it's good before they will give it a chance. All MMJ has to do is just film a live show and make any song a video and it will be a success, i know it. I've never seen a band perform the way this band does, at first i thought jim was on some sort of drug, i've never seen a band so into the music and just feeling every note. I can't wait for conan, that will def. be getting taped...well i put more than my .02 cents in
I didn't think the video was the greatest I've ever seen, but I was expecting the stinkiest piece of crap ever after what people here have said. It's certainly not that.
After one viewing on an incredibly small screen, I'll say I think it's well-made and I agree with much of what Meg said about its message. I'll add that it reminded me of The Crucible.
I wonder if MMJ were interested in staying out of the video because they are trying to evolve as a band and are tired of that pigeon-hole they've been put in: "southern fried" "bourbon fueled" rock and roll saviors.
Maybe they're afraid that if they get stuck in that rut of being compared to Skynyrd, they won't be taken seriously. By not showing a standard rock video that mimics a live performance, they can avoid that stereotype and have people pay attention to the song and the message without jumping to conclusions based on flying hair, flying V's, and the band's homestate.
thanks for that post scott. very thoughtful.
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I wonder if MMJ were interested in staying out of the video because they are trying to evolve as a band and are tired of that pigeon-hole they've been put in: "southern fried" "bourbon fueled" rock and roll saviors.
Maybe they're afraid that if they get stuck in that rut of being compared to Skynyrd, they won't be taken seriously. By not showing a standard rock video that mimics a live performance, they can avoid that stereotype and have people pay attention to the song and the message without jumping to conclusions based on flying hair, flying V's, and the band's homestate.
That's a really good point!
I've started a good videos/bad videos thread in other music.
Looks like a Yes video. I'll stick with the cd...
don't know if anyone else brought it up, but it looks a lot like a vidoe from The Cloud Room with poeple on phones singing the chorus. could be the same director. Not as bad video though. Wish they didn't cut ou the end, could have done some sick shit with that!
Anyone notice Jim in the video... you can see him for a half second... after the student throws his backpack on the roof... and tells the teacher the secret.... she starts running... you will see two kids say "off the record"... then the teacher runs past a gardner who looks up... and i could sware that it is Jim...
yea, he is like gardening or something.
if it never worked on your browser, then og to www.grimeys.com and it's on there.
it didnt suckk so much like everybody said. I don't know. I really didnt htink it was a terrible video. It made me think. Which is cool. I don't know, i think that since Z is kind of their take on the affairs of America, i think it might be a very apt video following the theme of the album. Kind of a free speech, or "dude, did you know theyre doing this?!" kind of thing, but not really having the liberty to talk about. Definitely influenced by early 20th century/cold war scifi. not bad stuff at all
This might be old news, but I only just saw it..
http://www.mtve.com/article.php?ArticleId=5960
QuoteArtist: My Morning Jacket
Video: Off The Record
Director: Jake Schreier
Album: Z
Story: We all know that Kate Moss was caught on a snapshot when doing drugs recently. But in this new video from My Morning Jacket we come to understand that most people have a little something they are doing off the record. The title of the song is just that "Off The Record" and in it words travel fast. It starts out on a schoolyard when a kid whispers something to another kid, and that kid passes on the news to someone else and so on. It ends up with everyone getting rid of stuff. Bags are thrown up on the roof and medicine is being buried in the garden. What's the news that travels around? Try to find when checking out this week's MTV Pick of the Week from My Morning Jacket.
What else: Director Jake Schreier shot the video in Los Angeles. Jake told MTV that even though the band's not in the video that much, they where at the set the whole time. My Morning Jacket hails from Louisville in Kentucky. The guys in My Morning Jacket say it's a place with no labels and a place that have always provided a fertile and often dark bed for them. My Morning Jacket's new album "Z" is the fourth album release. The band has previously toured with bands like Guided By Voices, Doves and Foo Fighters. And a small message from Jake is that if you want to catch a glimpse of the members in the video, we should look out for the hedge trimmer. Now, go ahead and enjoy this week's MTV Pick of the Week.