random question:
do you guys refer to 'Z' as:
Zee or Zed ?
I say zed. Doesn't feel quite right because Jim says zee. I've tried saying zee but it feels pretentious.
i know i'm not english, but it's definitely zed in my book. zee is just a bit weird....
Haha, good question Chief!
Zee. I've been away from home for too long ;)
Zed
Zee only when singing the ABCs
How are you people getting zed out of Z. Z is a letter and you pronounce it Z. Slightly confused...
I'm wondering the same thing. I've never heard of Z pronounced any other way but ZEE.
zed is the way that the rest of the world (mostly anyway) pronounces Z, guys.... :)
I think our cousins across the pond pronounce the letter "Z" Zed. French as well.
If a British band released an album called Z and everyone in the band pronounced the album zed, what would you call it?
QuoteHow are you people getting zed out of Z. Z is a letter and you pronounce it Z. Slightly confused...
No more confusing than saying why for y, doubleyou out of W or aitch for h I suppose. They're just names.
I pronounce it as "sounds like a bad eighties pop band - an enormous disappointment".
Seriously, my first MMJ album came and I thought what the hell is this!
Then Tennesse Fire arrived and I have listened to it every day for eight straight days, it grows and grows. I can't bring myself to revisit Zed, although I did like the last three tracks even on that one listen.
I'm assured the live stuff will be more pleasing, and am looking forward to hearing the various shows I'm trading for. Am I the only one here who doesn't like Zed?
Quote Am I the only one here who doesn't like Zed?
For me it was a grower. It cetainly didn't grab me the way At Dawn and It Still Moves did (they were the first ones I got and I got them pretty much together). I simply couldn't stop listening to them. I didn't feel like that with Z. However it
has grown on me. I didn't feel I was close to the songs (I'm not sure if that makes sense) but I listened to it on the way to the recent Glasgow show and surprised myself by how much I was singing along. Then seeing them performed live clinched it.
AD and ISM are still my joint faves though. It took a while to get into the Tennessee Fire as well.
Quotezed is the way that the rest of the world (mostly anyway) pronounces Z, guys....
The rest of the world (mostly) is retarded, though.
QuoteHow are you people getting zed out of Z. Z is a letter and you pronounce it Z. Slightly confused...
I don't get it either.... ??? I mean, WHAT THE HAIL?! Isn't that how you pronounce HELL, at least south of the Mason-Dixon line? Z is Z, and THAT IS THAT! ;) ;) ;) ;)
QuoteThe rest of the world (mostly) is retarded, though.
:-/ riiiight.
"Zed"..........The Hail You Say!!!!!!!!!!!
You're absolutely right, the rest of the world must be retarded for letting the US get away with it!
You choose George Bush to be president - good call!
You use on average four times the energy per person than the rest of the world.
You consume three times on average more food than the rest of the world (fatties!).
Mr Bush continues to refuse to ratify world agreemnets on the reduction of green house gasses because it might harm the US economy - we've got news for you, there ain't gonna be an economy if you continue to pump out carbon dioxide the way you're doing - we all go back to basics in about a century (at least our kids and grandkids do!).
You invade Iraq when everyone tells you it will lead to disaster (over a million people parade in the biggest UK demo against it - and go unheard because we have a US loving wanker for a PM), and then wonder where all the extra terrorists are coming from.
And incredibly, when the rest of the world understood that Bin Laden hated Hussain nearly as much as he hated him, the majority of Americans go on believing that the invasion of Iraq was a response to 9/11.
You're right, thank goodness for the US - at least your growing debt to Japan means the empire is beginning to burn itself out.
But hey, you've got some decent bands, so let's forget all that stuff and salute the flag!
Hey, let's not get personal now.
::)
Seeing as I was, you know, in middle school when Bush was first elected. And what was it, 15 the second time around? I don't necessarily love it, but I couldn't do a whole lot about it.
And I'm still mostly baffled about your retort. I don't know if we come off as pretentious jerks, but we're a pretty tight-knit community who knows how to give eachother hell and laugh about ourselves with it. So either jump in on it and enjoy yourself like the rest of us do, or keep your rants a little more bottled up. You'll find that most of the people here actually feel quite similarly as you do, and that turned out to be a character attack on those here who've somehow now been deemed ignorant by that tirade, than it was a rant against America. Just because we live here doesn't mean we support everything that goes on.
Yeesh.
QuoteHey, let's not get personal now.
::)
Seeing as I was, you know, in middle school when Bush was first elected. And what was it, 15 the second time around? I don't necessarily love it, but I couldn't do a whole lot about it.
And I'm still mostly baffled about your retort. I don't know if we come off as pretentious jerks, but we're a pretty tight-knit community who knows how to give eachother hell and laugh about ourselves with it. So either jump in on it and enjoy yourself like the rest of us do, or keep your rants a little more bottled up. You'll find that most of the people here actually feel quite similarly as you do, and that turned out to be a character attack on those here who've somehow now been deemed ignorant by that tirade, than it was a rant against America. Just because we live here doesn't mean we support everything that goes on.
Yeesh.
I disagree with you there Tom. I've been a member of this tight knit community for a long time and I found Brad's comment spectacularly racist and offensive to me. I think he was asking for it. It was a stereotypical statement from an American as many people in the rest of the world see them. This is really unfortunate because I (and many other 'rest of the worlders') know many who don't fit the stereotype.
It was Brad's bad imo.
;)
Quote;)
Exactly!
If Brad had used that small thing it would have made a lot of difference.
I can't believe it took that long for somebody to take offense.
I don't think Brad was serious, but a wink could have gone along way. Maybe he was serious, and if so, it offends me as an american and as a person connected closely to those with special needs. But if that's how he feels, he should speak his mind in this free country.
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QuoteI can't believe it took that long for somebody to take offense
I didn't bite straight away because Brad's a nice guy and I felt it was out of character.
Another thing I was thinking was that, maybe 'retarded' is more offensive here (in the UK) than it is in the states. I've noticed people on the board use it quite freely. It's really offensive here, both to the person you're calling retarded and to people with learning difficulties. Just a thought.
Vive la difference!
hey i understand some out there don't realise that some of us in the wider world speak a little differnt-like, and it did spark me up a little at the time, but i'm not going to take a single little comment & turn it into a general everyone hates me cos i'm different kind of rant... it was a silly thing to say, brad's being going through some shit lately, but let's just move on. please.
wow, just re-read english's comments again, the fatties comment was a bit left-field! and while i'm at it - hey, the australian government won't ratify the kyoto agreement either (why i really can't understand), and we also have a US-loving wanker for a pm who ignored the hundreds of thousands (relatively speaking still a lot, we don't have as many people down here as the rest of you :) ) of anti-war protesters (me included) and STILL joined in with bush/blair etc, so may as well add australia to your rant while you're at it...
that said, this was just a little thread about how even though we're all different, we still love the jacket, and music in general, so give yourselves a big hug and move on.
:)
I think you guys are taking this too seriously. Don't we all throw words out there that we don't really mean?
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But hey, you've got some decent bands, so let's forget all that stuff and salute the flag!
Decent? We've got the BEST bands.
::) I did think by including the term "fatties" people might not take it completely seriously, oh well!
As for the best bands, need you be reminded:
The Beatles
The Rolling Stones
Pink Floyd
Led Zeppelin
The Small Faces
Supergrass
Paul Weller
The Incredible String Band
Fairport Convention
The Who
Kate Bush
I know some of these are solo artists, but even so, can the US rival the classics?
My Morning Jacket
Boston
Van Halen
Kansas
Aerosmith
I'm just gonna throw RUSH on here since they're only so far up over the border
Iron and Wine
Andrew Bird
M. Ward
Sufjan Stevens
Clutch
the blues
jazz[/b]
and, above all, The Shaggs, whom Zappa proclaimed as "the most important band in the history of rock n' roll"
and i thought it was mostly obvious that Brad was basically completely playing off the ignorant American stance on his comment there? I mean, we are better than the rest of the world, but do you guys have to hate us so much for it?
;)
A wise man once sang:
"Most of us beleive this is wrong"
I agree with you, English Homer - Beatles, Stones, Zeppelin, Floyd - these will be forever enduring and created some of the finest music on the earth. But what about Jimi Hendrix? Jim Morrison? The Grateful Dead? (can't resist!) and every single blues artist who came from the states and influenced all of the above you mentioned? There's no argument: GOOD MUSIC is always going to be appreciated, no matter what country it comes from! So ROCK ON!
Man... I don't even know what to say, except I'm sort of in disbelief that even if I was taken the wrong way, someone would blow such a huge fuse on me for being a stupid American who did "bla bla bla" to ruin the fun for the rest of the world. As Tom picked up, I was just playing off of that stereotype in the first place... I thought that a smiley wasn't really necesarry, since I've been around so long and it was so totally out of character. I was just picking fun and stir a few of you up - didn't think I'd be taken seriously. My username
is AngryEwok, afterall.
;)
No big deal, no harm done... I guess I just need to practice the use of including smileys more often, huh?
QuoteYou're absolutely right, the rest of the world must be retarded for letting the US get away with it!
You choose George Bush to be president - good call!
You use on average four times the energy per person than the rest of the world.
You consume three times on average more food than the rest of the world (fatties!).
Mr Bush continues to refuse to ratify world agreemnets on the reduction of green house gasses because it might harm the US economy - we've got news for you, there ain't gonna be an economy if you continue to pump out carbon dioxide the way you're doing - we all go back to basics in about a century (at least our kids and grandkids do!).
You invade Iraq when everyone tells you it will lead to disaster (over a million people parade in the biggest UK demo against it - and go unheard because we have a US loving wanker for a PM), and then wonder where all the extra terrorists are coming from.
And incredibly, when the rest of the world understood that Bin Laden hated Hussain nearly as much as he hated him, the majority of Americans go on believing that the invasion of Iraq was a response to 9/11.
You're right, thank goodness for the US - at least your growing debt to Japan means the empire is beginning to burn itself out.
But hey, you've got some decent bands, so let's forget all that stuff and salute the flag!
Why not include a piechart for us, to make your point all the more overkill? Next time you want to rant at an American, you better include some illustrations...
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I can't help it that Americans have a more keen sense of humor than Europeans.
:-* <------------------
QuoteBut what about Jimi Hendrix?
Jimi Hendrix was American, but the Hendrix Experience came together in England, right? So you could almost credit his contribution to the English.
QuoteA wise man once sang:
"Most of us beleive this is wrong"
;) couldn' t have said it better myself.