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Title: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: ycartrob on Dec 13, 2006, 04:05 PM
I have listened to At Dawn a lot recently and have concluded that this is their best release. It's curious...
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: Kory on Dec 13, 2006, 04:53 PM
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Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: Jellyfish on Dec 13, 2006, 05:10 PM
  I disagree,The Tennessee Fire is,then AD. ;)
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: Kory on Dec 13, 2006, 05:15 PM
I'm really torn between the two. They make me feel entirely different...
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: ycartrob on Dec 13, 2006, 05:32 PM
Quote I disagree,The Tennessee Fire is,then AD. ;)

you're wrong. At Dawn is their best.
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: MMJ_fanatic on Dec 13, 2006, 06:34 PM
At Dawn will always have a soft spot in my heart.
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: Ghosts_on_TV on Dec 13, 2006, 07:00 PM
I like all of them the same, for different reasons.
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: dragonboy on Dec 13, 2006, 07:06 PM
At Dawn was my first & has always been my favourite (I love them all though!)
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: Chico on Dec 13, 2006, 07:46 PM
"At dawn" was my first and and favorite....

However, i think i need to listen to Z for another year or so before I can be sure it is not better.

I AM sure that "It Still Moves" is not the best.  Side 1 wears me out sometimes.  Side 2 kicks ass every time though.

I haven't listened to "TTF" enough to comment on it.
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: Willard1979 on Dec 13, 2006, 09:37 PM
QuoteI like all of them the same, for different reasons.


Same here
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: meetinthehollows on Dec 13, 2006, 09:47 PM
QuoteThey make me feel entirely different...

I agree, but not just the two albums.  All the albums are great.  How can you say you have a favorite when it's like choosing your favorite child? haha
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: BH on Dec 13, 2006, 11:11 PM

It depends on the weather.
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: ManNamedTruth on Dec 14, 2006, 03:58 AM
I'm thinking Z or At Dawn.
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: tomEisenbraun on Dec 14, 2006, 05:17 AM
You're wrong, Tracy. Obviously, they finally got it right on Z.
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: TEO on Dec 14, 2006, 05:29 AM
Z
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: brkndwnbus on Dec 14, 2006, 09:32 AM
I lean toward: At Dawn, Tenn Fire, It still moves and then Z
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: ycartrob on Dec 14, 2006, 10:26 AM
The name of this thread is:

At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: Chico on Dec 14, 2006, 10:33 AM
QuoteI lean toward: At Dawn, Tenn Fire, It still moves and then Z

You have obviously listened to TTF more than me, but have not listened to Z enough yet....

No Z in top three?  It cannot be!
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: peanut butter puddin surprise on Dec 14, 2006, 10:37 AM
QuoteThe name of this thread is:

At Dawn is the best MMJ album

well, it's a matter of opinion, my friend.  I like them all equally as well, as they all make me feel differently and it depends on what mood I'm in.  Each one has unique qualities that makes them...My Morning Jacket records...and nothing else is like them, anywhere.  I'm just sayin'.
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: Dee. on Dec 14, 2006, 08:41 PM
QuoteAt Dawn was my first & has always been my favourite (I love them all though!)
Same here. That is, if I have to pick a favorite... it's a hard thing to do!
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: EAZYE on Dec 14, 2006, 09:07 PM
QuoteThe name of this thread is:

At Dawn is the best MMJ album

At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: JacketGal on Dec 14, 2006, 09:23 PM
I must concur that At Dawn is the best record...so far! We have so many more to come, and I for one, cannot WAIT!
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: tomEisenbraun on Dec 14, 2006, 09:35 PM
You guys, you can't argue. At Dawn is the best MMJ Album. Any opinions you guys have otherwise are okay to discuss in a thread called "Opinions concerning At Dawn being the best MMJ Album". However, the simple pure and true fact of At Dawn being the best MMJ Album is currently not up for debate.

Sorry.
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: MMJ_fanatic on Dec 14, 2006, 11:55 PM
Flava Flav is pissin' me off
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: brkndwnbus on Dec 15, 2006, 06:21 AM
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You have obviously listened to TTF more than me, but have not listened to Z enough yet....

No Z in top three?  It cannot be!



I've listened to Z a lot, but I tend to only really listen to certain tracks now..... Anytime, Lay Low and Dondate....Doesn't mean I don't like the other tunes, just those one's stand out to me....Maybe Z will move up eventually.
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: drewsdad27us on Dec 15, 2006, 08:20 AM
Hi. Having had It Still Moves as my first exposure, Z is too far of a departure from the style I grew to add to my soul from ISM. I only like about half of Z.
I think AT Dawn starts out incredibly strong, but towards the end of the album, it kinda peters out for me- it is my # 2...
Tenn. Fire. is an great album, but much more bluegrass/less hardcore-a great indication of what was too come.
BUT,I think It Still Moves has had the longest, deepest impression on me. from start to finish, it is a masterpeice.
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: ycartrob on Dec 15, 2006, 09:09 AM
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I think AT Dawn starts out incredibly strong, but towards the end of the album, it kinda peters out for me.

If Strangulation and I Needed it Most is petering out, then I hope their next album is entirely petered out.
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: peanut butter puddin surprise on Dec 15, 2006, 09:14 AM
ha.  you guys are funny.
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: BH on Dec 15, 2006, 10:03 AM
I listened to Strangulation from an '01 show in Austin that George sent to me awhile back on the way to work this morning and I started crying.  I think this is either the 4th or 5th time that they have produced actual real tears.  I had this weird feeling, that I couldn't pin down.  It was like I wanted to cry, laugh and orgasm all at once.  Luckily, only the tears came out.
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: Ghosts_on_TV on Dec 15, 2006, 01:59 PM
QuoteIt was like I wanted to cry, laugh and orgasm all at once.  Luckily, only the tears came out.

Ha! Yeah I know the feeling.
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: suebeeboo on Dec 15, 2006, 02:05 PM
QuoteI listened to Strangulation from an '01 show in Austin that George sent to me awhile back on the way to work this morning and I started crying.  I think this is either the 4th or 5th time that they have produced actual real tears.  I had this weird feeling, that I couldn't pin down.  It was like I wanted to cry, laugh and orgasm all at once.  Luckily, only the tears came out.

And why, may I ask, Dear Bermuda, is that "lucky"???

Anyhoo....this is a great thread because I have been listening ONLY to At Dawn for about 2 weeks now and absolutely LOVING, LOVING it.  I love The Way That He Sings but I'm dying to know what is the background chorus he's singing?????  I'm a little "slow" but it sounds like -
Nah he don't roam, roam
nah he don't roam
nah he don't roam, roam...

PLEASE take it easy on me for riding the special bus on this one, but PLEASE, please can someone tell me what he's singing?!?!?!  
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: sweatboard on Dec 15, 2006, 02:12 PM
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If Strangulation and I Needed it Most is petering out, then I hope their next album is entirely petered out.

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Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: BH on Dec 15, 2006, 02:23 PM
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And why, may I ask, Dear Bermuda, is that "lucky"???

Anyhoo....this is a great thread because I have been listening ONLY to At Dawn for about 2 weeks now and absolutely LOVING, LOVING it.  I love The Way That He Sings but I'm dying to know what is the background chorus he's singing?????  I'm a little "slow" but it sounds like -
Nah he don't roam, roam
nah he don't roam
nah he don't roam, roam...

PLEASE take it easy on me for riding the special bus on this one, but PLEASE, please can someone tell me what he's singing?!?!?!  

Well, it may have been a little dangerous is all I'm sayin'.   With my legs going straight and all. ;)

Good question on TWTHS.  I always thought of it as somewhat of a "wordless chorus" so to speak but now that you mention it, it does kind of sound like he don't roam or know maybe
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: suebeeboo on Dec 15, 2006, 02:31 PM
"with your legs going straight"  ???  HA!!  I'm on the floor in my fffing cubicle right now!   :D :D :D  Yer killin me, dude!   So you don't know what he's saying??  Poo!  I REALLY want to know because he is singing something and they are words - maybe it is
now he don't know, know
now he don't know
now he don't know, know
now he don't know

Personally, I prefer "roam" because it makes me think he's a faithful man, whereas "know" makes me think he's a bit of an airhead.
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: peanut butter puddin surprise on Dec 15, 2006, 02:35 PM
i think he's sayin'

I ain't goin' roam roam
I ain't goin' roam
I ain't goin' roam roam

etc.

or...fill in the blank.  it's far more interesting to overlay your own words as they are being sung in that way.  kinda like the "eeeeeeedahdoo....eeeeedahdooo" at the end of "steam engine"...what's that shiznit, anyways?
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: BH on Dec 15, 2006, 02:39 PM
Remember the thread about "What question you would ask Jim if you had a chance"  It would be the Steam Engine question.  My mission in life is to know what he's saying.  I realize it's like the Pulp Fiction attache' case and I would probably be dissapointed, but I don't care.  I want to know.
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: Chico on Dec 15, 2006, 02:50 PM
Quotekinda like the "eeeeeeedahdoo....eeeeedahdooo" at the end of "steam engine"...what's that shiznit, anyways?

I always thought that was "Sea Island!  Sea Island Sea Island!"

Made me hungry for a "Sea Island Shrimphouse" seafood platter.
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: suebeeboo on Dec 15, 2006, 03:36 PM
Quotei think he's sayin'
I ain't goin' roam roam
I ain't goin' roam
I ain't goin' roam roam
...what's that shiznit, anyways?

Nooooooo - I don't think that's what he's saying - do you really?  What's a shiznit?  Is that like a lice egg or something???  :P
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: billybluebeard on Dec 15, 2006, 05:33 PM
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Nah he don't roam, roam
nah he don't roam
nah he don't roam, roam...


I think you got it.

That looks just like the sound I make when I'm "singin'" along with this song... which just happens to be found on THE BEST MMJ ALBUM EVER!!!  
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: bo dereks tits on Dec 15, 2006, 07:32 PM
wrong.

Tennessee Fire is the best MMJ album.

End of Story.

The reason why At Dawn comes up a close second?

Honest Man.  It's a bit sub-par.

End of Story.  
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: Dorothy_Mantooth on Dec 15, 2006, 07:50 PM
i like that one album they did called Suspicious Minds
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: fitzcarraldo on Dec 15, 2006, 09:34 PM
Quotei think he's sayin'

 it's far more interesting to overlay your own words as they are being sung in that way.  kinda like the "eeeeeeedahdoo....eeeeedahdooo" at the end of "steam engine"...what's that shiznit, anyways?

Word!
& Good Question.
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: fitzcarraldo on Dec 15, 2006, 09:34 PM
Quotei like that one album they did called Suspicious Minds

Awesome!
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: Jellyfish on Dec 15, 2006, 09:46 PM
Quotewrong.

Tennessee Fire is the best MMJ album.

End of Story.

The reason why At Dawn comes up a close second?

Honest Man.  It's a bit sub-par.

End of Story.  

My least fav song on the album too.....kinda messes up the mellow feel of the album as well.

There is not  bad track on Tennessee Fire.God,what a great album.....a masterpiece.
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: fitzcarraldo on Dec 15, 2006, 09:51 PM
Quote


Good question on TWTHS.  I always thought of it as somewhat of a "wordless chorus" so to speak but now that you mention it, it does kind of sound like he don't roam or know maybe

The 'Wordless Chorus' theory here. I like Dave.  :)
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: Chico on Dec 15, 2006, 11:14 PM
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The reason why At Dawn comes up a close second?

Honest Man.  It's a bit sub-par.

*gasp* For real?  Honest man is damn close to my favorite!  It screams "Exile on Main Street"!
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: BH on Dec 16, 2006, 12:18 AM
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I like Dave.  :)

I like you too. ;) :-*
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: EC on Dec 16, 2006, 12:35 AM
i love everybody.
why do we gotta choose?
how come we can't just love?
xxoooxooxo
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: LittleJim on Dec 16, 2006, 01:10 AM
There is no favorite to be had. Each album kicks serious ass. I really wish I could have them perform for me everyday in my house. That'd be awesome. And it wouldn't matter what they played really at all.
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Post by: ManNamedTruth on Dec 16, 2006, 01:26 AM
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*gasp* For real?  Honest man is damn close to my favorite!  It screams "Exile on Main Street"!
yeah i love that song. its all psychadelicy and rockin and howlin.
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: meetinthehollows on Dec 16, 2006, 01:41 AM
I think Okonokos I'd consider their best album because it's the closest thing to hearing all of the albums at once, you know?  There's a great bunch of songs on there.

But if it had to be studio albums, I'd say either Tennessee Fire or Z.  I wish they played more TF songs live.  'They Ran' in philly was amazing.
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: tbone on Dec 16, 2006, 01:48 AM
QuoteI have listened to At Dawn a lot recently and have concluded that this is their best release. It's curious...

ding ding...

we have a winner!

tis' true... AT DAWN is their bestestestest record.

1.  At Dawn
2.  It Still Moves
3.  Z
4.  Tennessee Fire

At Dawn is a really, really, really special record.

 8)
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: sweatboard on Dec 16, 2006, 02:31 AM
Each record is to special to be last.  They don't deserve that burden.  Therefore.

1. TN Fire
1. At Dawn
1. It Still Moves
1. SHIT it's still at the bottom "Z" (NOT FAIR!!)

Somebody lock this thread,  I have at one time felt that each album was the greatest thing ever unleashed upon human creatures besides LOVE.  
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: suebeeboo on Dec 18, 2006, 06:36 PM
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Quote from: johnconaway  link=1166043949/30#34 date=1166211328i think he's sayin'

 it's far more interesting to overlay your own words as they are being sung in that way.  kinda like the "eeeeeeedahdoo....eeeeedahdooo" at the end of "steam engine"...what's that shiznit, anyways?

Word!
& Good Question.

So maybe he's not singing actual words at all but something more like:
na-eee-don-roam-roam
na-eee-don-roam
na-eee-don-roam-roam
na-eee-don-roam

Why am I obsessing about this??  It's my OC nature again!   :-X :-/ :-X :-/
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: tomEisenbraun on Dec 18, 2006, 08:31 PM
[size=12]I've always heard it slightly like words, but I think Jim understands some of the most important parts of music to be that which isn't actually words. It's funny that the song we're currently wonderingabout the words to has the phrase "It's just the way that he sings, not the words that he says, or the band." as the most important line of it all. It's even the title. So we have to take that into account, that it would just so happen to be the song where that is the most important actual phrase, with the

he don't know no
no he don't know
no he don't know no
no he don't know

being the most integral wordless phrasing. that's what i've always heard, but i've never taken it to actually mean much of anything beyond the principle of the sound of that phrase, which I think is one of the most beautiful things about the way Jim hears the English language.

I could wind-bag another paragraph or two (I am in college, after all), however it's Christmas break and I figure I owe it to you and to me to not even bother to do that.

p.s. i like the ability to change fonts so easily...

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Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: BH on Dec 18, 2006, 10:50 PM
nice font work tom.  however, that post would have looked good in any font.
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: evilPaauwe on Dec 18, 2006, 11:45 PM
Quotenice font work tom.  however, that post would have looked good in any font.

was that a pickup line?



i was introduced to MMJ by their Austin City Limits performance ,    i watched golden, then gideon. Was blown away yet was too tired to watch the rest.     the next day i bought hopefully on itunes store.         worked out nice, one song representing each of the latest 3 albums.   First impressions are lasting impressions.     when i buy a new album i sit in the dark and just listen, preferably with either drink or smoke in hand.             i bought it still moves first, because golden was my favorite of the three.        ISM was awesome.     Then At Dawn...    that was AWESOME.       then......      there was Z.        If the first time i ever listened to Dark Side of The Moon was a 10. and the first time i listened to OK Computer was a 9. Then Z was an 8.8.      My mind was blown. blown to bits as it were.  got TNF bout' 3 weeks ago. Thats awesome also, but for me...
1. Z
2. At Dawn
3. It Still Moves.
4. Tennessee Fire
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: BH on Dec 19, 2006, 11:31 AM
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Quotenice font work tom.  however, that post would have looked good in any font.

was that a pickup line?



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Your font might be run of the mill pauwee, but I like it too.  I'm not just a one font kind of guy.
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: billybluebeard on Dec 26, 2006, 07:14 PM
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The reason why At Dawn comes up a close second?

Honest Man.  It's a bit sub-par.

End of Story.  


 You've got me curious, bo dereks tits, just what is it that you dislike about Honest Man?  I kept this thread in mind during my Xmas day At Dawn-athon, and just couldn't find anything bad about that song.

 Actually, out of the whole album the only thing that ever struck me wrong was the "stomping" intro to Strangulation, and that's just because I'm usually floatin' off in some astral plane by that point when all of a sudden it comes blaring in and scares the shit out of me.  I've grown to love it though... once I realized that if it weren't for that I might never make it back to my body.


At Dawn is their Master of Puppets...  their Appetite for Destruction...  their South of Heaven!  It's their Moon and Antarctica, for cryin' out loud!!!  It's their Love Will Keep us Together (that one's for you, Tenn![smiley=tongue.gif]).  However, I'm not yet willing to say that it's their Dark Side of the Moon... since there's no tellin' what lays ahead.

Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: inthehollowww on Dec 29, 2006, 10:36 AM
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Quote from: Tracy  link=1166043949/0#0 date=1166043948I have listened to At Dawn a lot recently and have concluded that this is their best release. It's curious...

ding ding...

we have a winner!

tis' true... AT DAWN is their bestestestest record.

1.  At Dawn
2.  It Still Moves
3.  Z
4.  Tennessee Fire

At Dawn is a really, really, really special record.

8)

I think you can make a case for either At Dawn, TF, or It Still Moves as the best overall album.  A list of my individual favorite songs would be a compilitation from all three.  If I had to decide I may just go with It Still Moves, although TF was my first love.  Seems like I may be in the minority with It Still Moves, but from start to finish it never seems to lose any of its driving force.  It surprises me there is not more of a "It Still Moves" backlash

To me what's really interesting are the opinions of Z as the best or better than any of the others.   I cant figure that out as a MMJ fan but we all see things in different lights.  Z was such a departure in many ways, but undoubtedly a great album in its own way.  
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: Chico on Dec 30, 2006, 10:11 AM
QuoteZ was such a departure in many ways, but undoubtedly a great album in its own way.  
I always thought that "It Still Moves" was the departure album...  From Jacket weirdness (TTF / At Dawn) - to Alt Country (ISM) - and then back home again (Z).
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: bob on Jan 03, 2007, 11:54 PM
I think Z is the most consistent, and therefore the best. They're all excellent, though.

And for what it's worth, I always heard "Iye aum bum bum iye um bum." With that correct spelling too, if you hear "Aye aum" -- you've clearly heard too much. It's "iye."
Title: Re: At Dawn is the best MMJ album
Post by: Klarify on Jan 04, 2007, 02:01 PM
Mine goes like this:

At Dawn
Z
Tennessee Fire
It Still Moves

but if any of you have chocolate and ice that is a very worthy EP as well :)

Wait a minute... I see a strange topic at the bottom of page 1 :S