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Title: Jim's song from "I'm not there"
Post by: corey on Oct 18, 2007, 04:58 PM
http://www.sonymusic.com/artists/BobDylan/imnotheremediaplayer/

It's in the music player.
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Post by: The DARK on Oct 18, 2007, 05:08 PM
 :o

Good man, corey.
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Post by: Kory on Oct 18, 2007, 05:25 PM
NICE!
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Post by: aMD on Oct 18, 2007, 05:33 PM
purely sublime.  WOW!  I love this combo: Jim and Dylan.  :o

Good shit.

Thanks for the link, corey!
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Post by: megisnotreal on Oct 18, 2007, 05:50 PM
thank you, corey.  :-* i sure am glad i found this while i was at work, if you know what i mean. not that i am not buying the soundtrack, b/c i am... but it is nice to have this while i wait.
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Post by: vespachick on Oct 18, 2007, 06:12 PM
Thanks Corey!  A very good way to spend five minutes!!
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Post by: red on Oct 18, 2007, 06:31 PM
Too early to call this the best soundtrack ever?
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Post by: dragonboy on Oct 18, 2007, 08:18 PM
Cheers 4 this Corey!
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Post by: the_wizzard on Oct 18, 2007, 08:52 PM
wow  :o :o :o

thanks corey!
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Post by: MyLifeISought on Oct 18, 2007, 09:14 PM
This soundtrack is going to be so fucking excellent (not to mention this movie)
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Post by: red on Oct 18, 2007, 10:00 PM
I'm ENTHRALLED by Cat Power's cut.  WOW WOW WOW.   :-*

Jeff Tweedy's take of "Simple Twist of Fate" here: http://www.myspace.com/imnottheresoundtrack
Title: Re: Jim's song from "I'm not there"
Post by: megisnotreal on Oct 18, 2007, 10:12 PM
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Jeff Tweedy's take of "Simple Twist of Fate" here: http://www.myspace.com/imnottheresoundtrack

i kind of want to marry this song
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Post by: The DARK on Oct 18, 2007, 10:41 PM
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Jeff Tweedy's take of "Simple Twist of Fate" here: http://www.myspace.com/imnottheresoundtrack

i kind of want to marry this song

8-)

If the rest of the album is as good as this and Going to Acapulco, this album will be mine.
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Post by: red on Oct 18, 2007, 10:46 PM
QuoteIf the rest of the album is as good as this and Going to Acapulco, this album will be mine.
I really think Cat Power's is the best of the bunch so far.   :o
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Post by: Enma on Oct 18, 2007, 10:54 PM
Thanks a lot for the link, Im a newbie here  :-?, all songs sounds great  8-)
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Post by: dragonboy on Oct 18, 2007, 11:21 PM
QuoteThanks a lot for the link, Im a newbie here  :-?, all songs sounds great  8-)
Hey Enma, welcome aboard! (love the Sen To Chihiro No kamikakushi pic!)
Title: Re: Jim's song from "I'm not there"
Post by: Chills on Oct 19, 2007, 06:19 AM
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Jeff Tweedy's take of "Simple Twist of Fate" here: http://www.myspace.com/imnottheresoundtrack

Not bad, but it just doesn't seem like the right choice for a cover. That song is just perfect the way Dylan sings it. I'd rather hear Jeff record his excellent version of I Threw It All Away. Oh well...

Jim's song is pretty good, but again not (yet?) great for me. I'd prefer Tonight I'll Be Staying Here With You.

Cat Power's is surprisingly the best of the three.

IMO
 
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Post by: dragonboy on Oct 19, 2007, 06:23 AM
QuoteCat Power's is surprisingly the best of the three.

IMO
I'm with you on this one Serg. Cat's is the best so far for me right now.
They're all good but I have to confess that I am a little disappointed. For me, a cover needs to bring something new or different to the song. I like Jim & Jeff's tracks but just they seem a bit...safe?
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Post by: Chills on Oct 19, 2007, 06:28 AM
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QuoteCat Power's is surprisingly the best of the three.

IMO
I'm with you on this one Serg. Cat's in the best so far for me right now.
They're all good but I have to confess that I am a little disappointed. For me, a cover needs to bring something new or different to the song. I like Jim & Jeff's tracks but just they seem a bit...safe?

My feelings exactly!

Good, but could do beter if he tried.

Sounds like something that was written on my old rapport cards.
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Post by: dragonboy on Oct 19, 2007, 06:31 AM
QuoteToo early to call this the best soundtrack ever?
::)

(http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/3a/9b/0f89793509a03b7a23412110.L.jpg)

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Post by: Coltrane on Oct 19, 2007, 12:34 PM
Goin To Acapulco is one of me and my wife's favorite Dylan songs ever....and to hear Jim (backed by Calexico, no less!) sing it just makes my heart fucking melt......amazing!
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Post by: fitzcarraldo on Oct 19, 2007, 12:50 PM
QuoteToo early to call this the best soundtrack ever?

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61G6ZP6A0PL._SS500_.jpg)
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Post by: aMD on Oct 19, 2007, 01:01 PM
QuoteToo early to call this the best soundtrack ever?

It will be for me.  Already is.
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Post by: JacketGal on Oct 19, 2007, 08:20 PM
VERY cool. Thanks for posting this. I am going to sit here and hit repeat about 25 x now.

"And I ain't complainin' none....no."  :D

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Post by: Kory on Oct 19, 2007, 08:25 PM
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QuoteToo early to call this the best soundtrack ever?

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61G6ZP6A0PL._SS500_.jpg)

Fucking awesome soundtrack!
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Post by: evilPaauwe on Oct 19, 2007, 11:47 PM
hats off man!!
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Post by: The DARK on Oct 20, 2007, 09:47 PM
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Jeff Tweedy's take of "Simple Twist of Fate" here: http://www.myspace.com/imnottheresoundtrack

Not bad, but it just doesn't seem like the right choice for a cover. That song is just perfect the way Dylan sings it. I'd rather hear Jeff record his excellent version of I Threw It All Away. Oh well...

Jim's song is pretty good, but again not (yet?) great for me. I'd prefer Tonight I'll Be Staying Here With You.

Cat Power's is surprisingly the best of the three.

IMO
 

Maybe, but it really sounds like JJ and Jeff really made these songs their own. They don't sound like covers at all, and I like that. Dylan's songs are for everyone.
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Post by: KC on Oct 21, 2007, 05:52 AM
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QuoteToo early to call this the best soundtrack ever?

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61G6ZP6A0PL._SS500_.jpg)

Fucking awesome soundtrack!

90s Seattle grunge mixed with 60s Seattle Hendrix and throw in a Zeppelin cover for good measure. Whoever put this together was a fucking genius and deserved man/woman of the year award for 1992.

oh, and Drown is prolly my fav pumpkins song.
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Post by: aMD on Oct 21, 2007, 10:09 AM
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QuoteToo early to call this the best soundtrack ever?

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61G6ZP6A0PL._SS500_.jpg)

Fucking awesome soundtrack!

90s Seattle grunge mixed with 60s Seattle Hendrix and throw in a Zeppelin cover for good measure. Whoever put this together was a fucking genius and deserved man/woman of the year award for 1992.

oh, and Drown is prolly my fav pumpkins song.

Don't know if you were joking or not, but I would assume that the writer /director of singles, Cameron Crowe, put together that soundtrack about a decade before he cast mmj in elizabethtown.
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Post by: The DARK on Oct 21, 2007, 01:44 PM
Eddie Vedder and the Million Dollar Bashers- All Along the Watchtower:
http://www.culturebully.com/im-not-there-track-list-confirmed-audio-available

:D
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Post by: sweatboard on Oct 21, 2007, 02:31 PM
QuoteEddie Vedder and the Million Dollar Bashers- All Along the Watchtower:
http://www.culturebully.com/im-not-there-track-list-confirmed-audio-available

:D


Eddie almost sounds like he's sick.  :-/

Plus, considering that Nels AND Lee Renaldo are on this I'm actually really let down with the guitar on this.  I'll give it another listen.  
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Post by: tomEisenbraun on Oct 24, 2007, 11:54 AM
listening to other people's cover songs make me really feel like a bastard.

i'm not really impressed by any of these so far. granted, i've never heard most of the originals of these, but I haven't really been moved by these. "All Along The Watchtower" felt terribly uninspired, which sucks, because I really love Nels. Something about the way that man records his guitar is perfect for what Wilco does, and terrible for anything that needs some big spacious reverb. I think the hard thing about these covers, is that I get the feeling that Dylan put so much of himself into most of these songs that there's not a whole lot of re-interpretation to do.

I think every now and then a small artist creates something inadvertently beautiful that someone else has to come along and reinterpret to bring out that beauty that the original writers were hinting at, but I feel like this isn't so much of that same case here. not to say this stuff isn't good, just not wholly inspiring. perhaps part of the point was that it was a huge fun project for everyone involved to collaborate the way they did, and that's cool, especially when it shines through in the recording. if you look at it that way, then "Watchtower" was great! These guys had fun shredding around with a classic, and that's respectable, but Jim's cover of "Acapulco" honestly didn't feel very fun. i'm going to listen again, so that i can edit and avoid eating my words if need be. but it just didn't feel like it was really drawn from anywhere fun or deep, and i feel like you need one or the other for a good cover.

please blast me and give input, that's mine.
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Post by: rob on Oct 27, 2007, 11:53 PM
I agree Tom. Jim's Acapulco sounds a little stretchy/strainy to me. More to do with the song itself than Jim, I think.
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Post by: dragonboy on Oct 28, 2007, 07:17 AM
I'm pleased to learn that other people feel the same way. I even thought about canceling my pre-order.
Hopefully Mark L & Anthony's tracks will blow me away...
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Post by: red on Oct 28, 2007, 06:01 PM
QuoteI'm pleased to learn that other people feel the same way. I even thought about canceling my pre-order.
Hopefully Mark L & Anthony's tracks will blow me away...
Just wait till you hear THS bring the raucous.  ;D
Title: Re: Jim's song from "I'm not there"
Post by: aMD on Oct 29, 2007, 04:19 PM
I think you all are crazy.  Goin to Acapulco is a GREAT song.  I like Jim's version of it.  It may not be better than the original or unique to it but if you noticed Jim never strays that far from the original version in any cover they do, he just adds his magic to it.  There is no way this soundtrack will not be worth the money and then some.  I can't believe people are so disappointed.  Give it another listen, people, please.
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Post by: the_wizzard on Oct 30, 2007, 09:24 PM
I'm not disappointed  ;)

But I love Dylan and since I am an old Deadhead I find that interpretations of Dylan's work can sometime trump the original.  Old Bobby D himself has proclaimed that Jerry Garcia did the best arrangements of his songs...and I agree.  So I may not be won over by all the covers...but Cat Power does a mean ass version of Mobile.  Will be listening to this CD alot...
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Post by: dragonboy on Oct 30, 2007, 10:39 PM
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/46694-im-not-there-ost

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Post by: aMD on Oct 31, 2007, 09:48 AM
this is going to come in a 2CD or 4LP set.  I'm going to start with the CD.  
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Post by: BH on Oct 31, 2007, 12:45 PM
I can't find this anywhere.  (I've only looked two places)  I guess I'm going to try Walmart today, as much as I hate to do that.  Any ideas?  I don't want to wait for it in the mail.
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Post by: Angry Ewok on Oct 31, 2007, 07:13 PM
I tried, but I really couldn't get into this soundtrack... Jim's track isn't bad, although I've never been too big a fan of that particular song. Eddie's track may be the weakest of the bunch, I'm not sure if it's a half-assed cover of Bob Dylan or a lead guitar-less cover of Jimi Hendrix.
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Post by: tomEisenbraun on Nov 01, 2007, 10:31 AM
QuoteI think you all are crazy.  Goin to Acapulco is a GREAT song.  I like Jim's version of it.  It may not be better than the original or unique to it but if you noticed Jim never strays that far from the original version in any cover they do, he just adds his magic to it.  There is no way this soundtrack will not be worth the money and then some.  I can't believe people are so disappointed.  Give it another listen, people, please.

Hey man,

I respect how big of a Dylan fan you are, and I think that might make a world of difference. I've been a huge Zeppelin fan, and a HUGE Metallica fan at different times of my life, and huge Flaming Lips fan, as well as a huge MMJ fan, too. If the jacket or another artist I loved a bunch covered one of these other guys' songs, I'd be all over it. I think part of what makes the difference for a lot of us is the familiarity with the material.

You could probably sing Acapulco when you saw the song title, where a lot of us have probably not heard it before. Being really familiar with it makes a difference, because you can hear how Jim adds his own inflections to certain parts, and you can pull out everything he does new for the song, the way Calexico changed the instrumentation, the way they played on how the song worked before and really made it their own. That's a huge difference than some of us who've heard the song for the first time as Jim's version.

That makes this something really special for you, and I'm glad for that. It's always wonderful to see someone you appreciate so strongly being supported and promoted by someone else you adore a ton. That's huge, and I'm excited for this whole thing for you, because it'll be a ton of fun to delve into this soundtrack for you! For the not so huge Dylan fans, though, it's a little harder to get into. Maybe because we know some of the songs, but haven't spent the time to understand what went into them, and therefore they mean a little less when someone covers them. I think what makes a beautiful cover is when someone has a song mean so much to them that they make it their own. I think that's what music is for, is for someone to create something beautiful for someone else to make their own. In that way, these guys have (hopefully) discovered the beauty behind these Dylan songs and worked to capture that beauty as their own take on it in these covers. I dig that. That said, I don't have enough Dylan background to truly enjoy listening to this soundtrack. I'm not condemning it one bit, I just understand that I'm probably not a big enough Dylan to get it as much as I could I could. That's a shame, because this sounds like good fun, and being a big Dylan fan probably allows you to have more fun with it and be less critical of the people who put work into the soundtrack.

Here's a thought, I've been reading Oscar Wilde's "Picture of Dorian Gray" and there's a quote in there about art. Lord Henry says to Basil (the painter) that a portrait is never an interpretation of the person being painted, but an interpretation of the artist through their subject. It's a look at the artist's mind, not the subject's person. With that in mind, these aren't representations of Dylan's songs, they're interpretations of his work, but channeled through these guys. That's cool.

That said, I still don't thoroughly dig Watchtower (Neils! Please use some reverb sometimes!).
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Post by: tomEisenbraun on Nov 01, 2007, 10:32 AM
p.s. does anyone actually bother to read it when i accidentally type books like that?
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Post by: BH on Nov 01, 2007, 10:49 AM
Quote

Here's a thought, I've been reading Oscar Wilde's "Picture of Dorian Gray" and there's a quote in there about art. Lord Henry says to Basil (the painter) that a portrait is never an interpretation of the person being painted, but an interpretation of the artist through their subject. It's a look at the artist's mind, not the subject's person. With that in mind, these aren't representations of Dylan's songs, they're interpretations of his work, but channeled through these guys. That's cool.



That's super cool. ^

I do read your "books" Tom. ;)

I totally agree with what you are saying.  However, I think everyone might be a little quick to judge on this thing man, it just came out two days ago for crying out loud.  I for one, have only made it thru Disc One.  I don't know much about Yo La  Tango but I love that song, also, the Mason Jennings song is great.  The Karen O song was cool.  And Willie with Calexico. I enjoyed looking thru the liner notes.  I like how they listed all of the musicians on every song.  I noticed Doyle Bramhall II was playing on the John Doe stuff.  I'm a big fan of Doyle's guitar.  Anyway, if nothing else, it has peeked my interest on a couple of other artists that I don't know.

All this and Disc Two (Including the Hold Steady!) still to come.
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Post by: Chills on Nov 01, 2007, 11:32 AM
Quote[ That said, I don't have enough Dylan background to truly enjoy listening to this soundtrack. I'm not condemning it one bit, I just understand that I'm probably not a big enough Dylan to get it as much as I could I could. That's a shame, because this sounds like good fun, and being a big Dylan fan probably allows you to have more fun with it and be less critical of the people who put work into the soundtrack.


Interesting post Tom, but this point makes little sense to me.

Why should you even need to be aware of the original to enjoy a good cover?

Look at Wilco's cover of Charles Wright's Comment. I had never heard of Charles Wright before, but just loved it and searched for the original and loved that as well. Likewise, I wasn't familiar with Nashville Skyline before hearing Tweedy's cover of I Threw It All Away and adored that one immediatelly.

On the other hand I was VERY familiar with Blood On The Tracks. It might be my favourite album of all time. Yet Jeff's Simple Twist Of Fate cover does not manage to capture the feeling of Dylan's original. It's partially the performance and partially the choice of song. Can't see anyone doing Idiot Wind as well, that could never work. Those are such unique and personal songs.


PS: Andrew Bird's cover of Oh Sister still rules 'em all!
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Post by: harpua51 on Nov 01, 2007, 08:55 PM
You guys got me thinking?  "Singles" has a mighty strong place in my heart.  I believe Im gonna have marinate on this for a while????? :-/
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Post by: the_wizzard on Nov 02, 2007, 01:05 AM
i was weened on dylan (my mom is an ole' folkie), and I am very familiar with dylan's work...and my husband is a bigger fan than i...so this album has been anticipated in our home.

my take, after listening to the album and reading posts, on the topic:
some of the album is genius, some of the album just is...
I love dylan, love his songwriting, but i have truly always appreciated them best thru  interpretations (a. see previous post on jerry garcia & b. i've been known to be very disappointed after a couple dylan shows....).

but with all that being said, the soundtrack is an extension of the movie.  and this is not a usual biopic by any means. Todd Haynes and his crew took a very artistic approach to a very iconic american performer.  dylan has mystified and so should the biopic (soundtrack and all).  what I find most interesting is the scope of dylan's work represented in the soundtrack.  Todd Haynes is taking a unusual approach to telling dylan's story.  and the soundtrack follows suit on that vision..........

just remember, this is not a covers album or a tribute.  it is a soundtrack to an abstract version of a biopic.  personally, I can't wait the 2 weeks before it opens in Portland for the regular folk (todd haynes lives here part-time and is hosting a viewing this weekend for a sold out benefit...).
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Post by: harpua51 on Nov 02, 2007, 09:42 AM
My List

1. The Big Chill
2. Singles
3. Garden State
4. In the Wild (i listened to it once and I loved it!)
5. Top Gun
6. The Crow
7. Easy Rider
8.  Dead Man Walking
9. Sat. Night Fever
10. Pulp Fiction


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Post by: rob on Nov 02, 2007, 11:18 PM
I just found out that Bonnie Prince Billy recorded a cover of 'Goin To Acapulco' about a year ago. It's on his 'Lay And Love' CD single. Sound sample sounds good......ah boy.....that ol' rivalry.
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Post by: Bangs Brownwood on Nov 03, 2007, 01:03 PM
Just listened to this one for the first time... I think it sounds like buttah.... gave me warm fuzzies like only Jim can.  ;)
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Post by: getinthevan on Nov 03, 2007, 04:10 PM
I'll admit, I'm not a huge Dylan fan.  This film has sparked my interest again and actually gotten me to go back and give him another try.  I really enjoy some of his stuff but some of it just hasn't done anything for me.  However, I love this cd.  I've listened to it a few times already and with each listen, I want to listen to the originals more and more.
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Post by: DaFunkyPrecedent on Nov 04, 2007, 08:04 PM
Not to be Debbie Downer...but i've heard Jim sound better.  The song didn't impress me.
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Post by: Kory on Nov 04, 2007, 08:10 PM
Did you guys know this is on vinyl? Picked a copy up today.
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Post by: DaFunkyPrecedent on Nov 05, 2007, 12:00 AM
whaaaa???!!!!??? flying back to the Bay this weekend...cant wait to buy it at Ameoba - along with my Fat Slice pizza and Orange Soda. nothing better.
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Post by: sweatboard on Nov 05, 2007, 12:32 AM
Can someone e-mail me like $30?  I really NEED this on Vinyl.
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Post by: tomEisenbraun on Nov 05, 2007, 07:51 PM
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Quote[ That said, I don't have enough Dylan background to truly enjoy listening to this soundtrack. I'm not condemning it one bit, I just understand that I'm probably not a big enough Dylan to get it as much as I could I could. That's a shame, because this sounds like good fun, and being a big Dylan fan probably allows you to have more fun with it and be less critical of the people who put work into the soundtrack.


Interesting post Tom, but this point makes little sense to me.

Why should you even need to be aware of the original to enjoy a good cover?

Look at Wilco's cover of Charles Wright's Comment. I had never heard of Charles Wright before, but just loved it and searched for the original and loved that as well. Likewise, I wasn't familiar with Nashville Skyline before hearing Tweedy's cover of I Threw It All Away and adored that one immediatelly.

On the other hand I was VERY familiar with Blood On The Tracks. It might be my favourite album of all time. Yet Jeff's Simple Twist Of Fate cover does not manage to capture the feeling of Dylan's original. It's partially the performance and partially the choice of song. Can't see anyone doing Idiot Wind as well, that could never work. Those are such unique and personal songs.


PS: Andrew Bird's cover of Oh Sister still rules 'em all!

I totally get what you're saying there. I've had that happen for me a few times, too, though I can't think of any specifics at the moment. I think a lot of the enthusiasm for this project comes from people's love of the original, and seeing the new interpretations of them. I could be wrong, but I'm thinking that that is probably the biggest draw for this album, as it's definitely set up in that manner. I wasn't meaning to state that comment as the rule on enjoying cover songs, but I think that that is probably the case moreso on this soundtrack than in most other situations.
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Post by: sweatboard on Nov 11, 2007, 12:43 AM
This song rules!  What a great choice for Jim to cover.  Although, I could do without the horns.  Jim's voice would have sufficed.   :)
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Post by: richardlove on Nov 23, 2007, 07:19 PM
wow, i didnt know jim actually played in the movie..is there a thread discussing it? i cant find one.